What Happens When We Die? | Real Paranormal Stories From The Other Side (x338)

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Zombies are real and they're emailing us. [laughter]

We themed today's encounters near death experiences.

Yeah. Very spooky.

Hello.

Have you ever died and come back to life?

When we all die, where do we go?

What is life as we know it? And do you have ghost stories? [laughter]

And the answer is yes.

This is two girls on guest.

Two girls, one ghost. We are your ghostesses. That's Karen.

Hello.

I'm Sabrina. And this is an encounters episode where we read paranormal stories that you send to us back to you and we

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themed today's encounters near death experiences.

NDEs baby. You die, you come back, you immediately log on to your email account and send [laughter] us an email about it.

Y'all, I almost died. I just I'm writing you from the hospital. I died 20 seconds ago. Yeah, some of these are pretty intense and scary, but then also some of them are so amazing and miraculous.

Yeah.

And before we get into the stories, just a slight content warning. There is a lot of mention of death and child loss in this episode.

Mhm.

So, listen with caution. Do you want to go first?

Me?

Yeah, sure.

Yeah, fine. [laughter]

'unteathered' after NDE

Hi, girls. My name is Quinn. My pronouns are they them. I've emailed you before, but that email is a hot mess. [laughter]

Honestly, I get it.

It's fine.

Anyway, I'm currently listening to episode 320, and I had to pause to reply

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to Cesal's story. Sabrina mentioned a few times that it sounds like Cesaly's soul isn't quite attached to her body properly. Well, let me tell you. According to some individuals that do energy work, it is possible that she might be missing some tethers. I met someone back in 2020, a few years ago, after I had a severe brain injury.

Since that accident, I've talked a lot about how I feel like when I came back, I came back as a different person. Like, I was sort of in limbo, dancing between this side and the other. And when I was in the ICU, I was sleeping probably 23 hours a day. And I was unable to remember anything besides hearing my deceased aunt's favorite song and pain. Why is that so Stranger Things?

Yeah. Running up the hill.

Wow.

When I came out, I perceived the world differently. I had different preferences for food, for clothing. I can't even remember what else. But I became so much

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more interested in astrology and spirituality. And strangely, when my mom was talking to a friend, the friend asked if since the accident, if I was more in touch with the stars. What an interesting way to say that.

Yeah. Back in 2020, I'm in an herbalism workshop. I'm chatting with a woman about my experiences during and after acquiring the brain injury. And she told me that there's a technique in Reiki which the practitioner can reattach tethers. [snorts] Tethers that come loose or unplugged.

She said that she could see some of mine were unplugged. It must have happened after the accident. I can't

I'm for sure half unplugged. [laughter] Like that would explain a lot.

I told you about one of my old co-workers who

basically did like this sort of a very similar thing where yeah, she would go and find pieces of people in the astral plane

and bring them back

and bring them back to them,

reattach you,

plug you back in. I tried looking it up to see if I can find anything about it

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on the internet, but no luck. Back then, I did end up finding a Reiki professional who used this technique and did it on me, pulling residual energy from traumatic experiences. I also learned about pulling negative energy out of my third eye and my heart chakra.

I know.

I would love to do that. [laughter] Just like

clean me out.

Where does it go though once it's

energy can't be created nor destroyed? So, it goes

floating in your front yard. You do one misstep and it's back in.

Yeah. [laughter] It's like whoops. Oops.

Boomerang. [gasps and sighs]

Okay, so I know a lot of this is sounding a little bit out there, but I used to think that Reiki was [ __ ] but I was so desperate to feel grounded and like myself again and not see the world through such a dark filter. And when she pulled that residual energy out, I had chills all over my body. And I started sobbing. It was one of the most visceral and intense experiences I have ever had. And as for the tethers, I can't really say that it was an instant

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change. I've had to slowly come back to myself in this reality over time with lots of work on my mental and emotional and cognitive and spiritual health. And maybe that's a good push in the process. I'm not sure. With love and best wishes, Quinn. Wow. Well, I'm really sorry like to come back like one amazing that you were able to survive and get through what is sleeping 23 hours and like just being in such severe pain that whole time,

but then

not having any memories except for the

pain in that song. the song.

I wonder if that song is triggering now.

Oh yeah, maybe. It's like not not a favorite song. It's more of like, oh my god, remember when I survived that traumatic brain injury,

but also how confusing to come out of it and like everything you thought you knew about yourself is different.

I know. That's what's so interesting about the brain.

I know.

But also just like the spirituality piece. I mean, coming out more in touch with the stars,

having a sudden interest in all of these things. Is it the brain changing you or did you just tap a little bit more into maybe like a past life or

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right

something else that only exists in this like other plane that you access when you for some of us when you temporarily die?

Good question and it remains as such.

Yes.

my mom's three different third-man experiences

I have one from our listener Alicia and it's called my mom's three different third man experiences. I just got chills.

Plus a Georgie. We'll see what that means.

Plus a Georgie.

Hi Ghostesses. Love the show. The topic of the Third Man Syndrome is so interesting to me along with most paranormal topics. And my mom is in her late 60s. She grew up in the South where we still live. And she's not particularly woo woo, but she does lean spiritual and has had three third man experiences. Three different ones.

Wow. So, the first one, she had years of trouble trying to get pregnant with what ended up being me. And in the early8s, she heard a voice in her head that said,

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"This is not your problem anymore."

Then it felt like a literal load of weight was lifted off of her shoulders. She said it sounded like a masculine voice. Very soon after that, she got pregnant with me. Like, what?

I got shows again. This is not your problem anymore. Yeah, [sighs and gasps]

I took care of it. You are with child.

Number two,

she was in a car crash in North Georgia and as she was crashing, she heard let go and did.

Is it the same voice? I want to know that

maybe, but this one she knows whose voice it was and doesn't specify in the first one.

She let go of the wheel and the car spun the right way, basically saving her life. She crashed but was not harmed. She said she knew it was her dad's voice saying, "Let go."

Oh my god. I feel like it's so important that it was her dad's voice because if it was just an unidentified voice, you might second guess yourself. And it's so hard to just release control of a vehicle and let yourself actively crash.

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Right. Okay. The third one was, "My husband and I were going through fertility treatments to have our second kid in 2022 when she heard a voice say, "Geie is going to have a brother." She couldn't determine if it was a masculine or feminine voice. It was just a voice. What she had no idea of was at that exact moment, my husband and I were doing our final IUI attempt and it was successful, but it worked too well. And I was pregnant with two babies. Oh my gosh. We I keep hearing stories like this like just around me where people do like IUI or IVF or something for their first kid

and then just either get like twins or just get accidentally pregnant or pregnant immediately with like everything. I have a friend, well I don't know if you know her, but she was in my sorority in college and her and her husband were having such a hard time getting pregnant

and so they got a surrogate like they did all like the fertility treatments and like

Oh yes,

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she like is posting a bunch on social media and stuff but she um

so now she's like 3 months apart or something like that.

So she did the surrogate surrogate got like it took and was like pregnant with their child

immediately she gets pregnant on her like on her own. So now they have basically like twins.

Yeah. But they're three months apart.

I can't even imagine.

I know. Wild. Um, okay. So, it worked too well and I found out I was pregnant with two babies. It was terrifying and very stressful and I was panicking for a few weeks. But I finally told my mom what was going on. And she had to tell me what she heard. She thought that by letting me know that she heard one brother, like a brother, singular, not brothers, plural, would help me cope. And honestly, it did. I knew of my mom's previous voice hearing experiences, which were super on point. So, I took comfort in this. And lo and behold, a few weeks in, it was finally determined that the other fetus wasn't growing right and was likely not viable and vanished, which is called vanishing twin

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syndrome.

And this all happened very early in the pregnancy. And honestly, in my mind, felt like very good news because now I could just focus on one healthy baby. Having twins can seem so exciting, but it's also Yeah.

Like the actual pregnancy and carrying two healthy kids is

right becomes very stressful.

A few weeks later, we found out I was having a boy and my daughter whose name is Georgie now has a healthy little brother. So yeah, my mom was right or the voice who told her was right.

Dang.

She said Auggie will now be two on New Year's Eve. But this is

and Augie.

I know. So cute.

That's so cute. Let me pause. I want to rename my children. [laughter]

I imagine there are a lot of variables and reasons this phenomenon happens. Maybe not all of them are paranormal, but I do think some of them are. And I definitely believe that my dad saved my mom from dying in a car accident.

Wow.

Side note, and this is content warning for near death and drowning of a child,

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but I'm extra grateful for our healthy boy, Auggie. He did have a non-fatal drowning accident this past Labor Day and it was terrifying. When we got him out of the water screaming for help, he was not breathing. The following minutes and experience was truly a blur, but a crowd gathered and they were able to bring my baby back. The park ranger said it's the only time he's seen someone survive an incident like this and I really fully believe my son had a near-death experience, but he's too young to really talk about it. Thank you all for the fun paranormal chats. Alicia,

my heart is like pounding just thinking of the anxiety of that.

Like, thank goodness he was okay.

Yeah. Horrific. Horrific.

So scary.

Yeah.

Wow. Oh my god.

You guys have some a lot of spiritual energy looking out for your family.

Yeah, that's for sure.

Yeah.

Grandma is going to be told everything's [laughter] going to be okay.

Grandma knows everything because the spirits

because someone else is telling her [laughter] everything.

Whisper the words into her ears at

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night.

my aunt got to see her boys on the other side

Wow. Okay. Okay. Well, I have one called Near-Death Experience. My great aunt got to see her boys on the other side before being revived. Hey ghouls, I hope this finds you well. My name is Savannah. Feel free to use my name. I'm a new listener as of this month, and I'm not a podcast girly, but there's just something about you guys that has me hooked.

We got our hooks into you.

We won't let it go.

No. For some background knowledge, my great great-grandfather on my mom's side was the seventh son of the seventh son.

Oh my gosh, that's a lot of children.

That's a lot of kids.

Yeah.

My grandma and mom always told me that we were gifted with psychic and healing abilities because of that.

Wow.

He had five kids, two girls, three boys. And my nana, my great grandma being the second child and my great aunt Marie was the fourth child out of all of them. I have stories from them and I'm going to start off with my great aunt Marie first. She survived a houseire that took

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the lives of her three boys and almost took her life as well,

as well as her unborn son.

She was dead for a few seconds before doctors could save her and her baby. However, she had a near-death experience and she got to see her oldest boys one more time. Her husband fell asleep with a lit cigarette in his hand and unfortunately, it fell onto the chair right next to him. And once the chair caught fire, he woke up. He ran out the front door, exposing the fire to the cold Canadian December air, leaving the door wide open and his sleeping wife and three boys upstairs. I'm not entirely sure of all the details from here, but I can confidently remember from all of my family's retelling of the story that my aunt sustained burns so badly on the backside of her body from head to heel. And I'm pretty sure she had to run through the fire to gather her boys up into one bedroom to escape. I'm not really 100% sure on that. I do know though that her burns were so bad that she spent a very long time in the

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hospital.

Oh my god.

Even after giving birth months later.

I was told that when she went to go open up the window, the pressure of the air sucked her out.

She landed in a snow bankank and that fully knocked her unconscious.

Oh, that breaks my heart. This is so sad.

This is like so tragic. Unfortunately, this left her three tiny boys behind upstairs in the fire. First responders tried to rush to them, but the tallest ladder was on loan to someone who wanted to put up his Christmas lights. Sadly, by the time they got to the boys, it was too late. They had died of smoke inhalation. I remember my nana saying that the firefighters were there, saying that they saw the boys all curled up together. They looked like they were peacefully asleep. My Oh my god, I'm going to start crying.

We've had some criers recently.

I know.

My aunt was peeled out of the snowbank, leaving layers of her dead, burnt skin in the snow.

Oh my god.

She was rushed to the hospital. She was

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placed into a coma due to the severity of her burns. While in a coma, she ended up dying, but thankfully the doctors brought her back. What she experienced cannot be explained. When she died, she had what I believe we would call a near-death experience.

Absolutely.

She says she woke up underwater. She wasn't scared. She felt like she was at ease.

She started to swim upwards and once she broke the surface of the water, she could feel the warmth and she could also see a beach with some people on it. So naturally, she started swimming towards them. As she swam towards the shore, but before she could reach too close, she was met by her boys. The oldest boy told her, "Mom, we are at peace now. We love you and we are not mad about what happened. It was our time, but it is not yours."

Oh my [laughter] god. And that's when he shoved her back underwater and she came back to life again in her coma, but alive. I never got to meet my

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aunt Marie, but my mom and her had a connection that was beyond aunt and niece. I don't know if they were twin flames or what, but there was definitely something there and everybody saw it. This is so heartbreaking.

It's to the point that my aunt actually still visits my mom in her dreams.

My mom told me that there were times when her and my aunt would get together and use a Ouija board. [laughter] And I should say my mom always expressed that her and my aunt could control it, but if she ever heard or saw any of her kids touch one that we would meet Jesus. [laughter]

Oh man. I tried to ask her today as I write this to see if she had any specific people or members of the family that would talk to her or anything, but her words were honestly I don't recall anyone specific coming up to communicate. The thing usually just went wild when we used it.

So there were so many people trying to talk

and then she said that this was in her late teens and early 20s when she was doing this and now she's 57. So fair enough, queen.

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To this day, my mom still has that Ouija board. We have special instructions to bury it with her when she goes. Wow. And guys, I have a confession. My mom and my sister do not know about this to this day. When I was in grade six, I touched her Ouija board.

It's like Finding Nemo. Nemo's touching the [laughter] butt.

Literally, little old me left the planchette facing upwards. And thankfully, nothing bad happened after. However, there was the feeling in me for days that I needed to flip it back over. So, I finally caved. I went back in and I turned it over. I didn't know what I was doing or why, but it felt like I needed to do it and it did go away.

Trust your instincts.

After that, little old me went about my life. It wasn't until years later that I realized what I had done. And when I did, my stomach dropped. Even typing this now, I'm getting sick to my stomach. But I also wonder, was that my aunt Marie pestering me to fix my mistake before someone or something showed me the consequences to my actions? Or was it my intuition? Thanks

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for reading. I can't wait to continue to binge you guys. See you on the other side, Savannah.

I am just my heart breaks for Savannah's great aunt.

So, no one should ever have to experience that. How do you even

But like I I am glad that in a time where there's zero silver linings that she at least got to hear from her boys that they are safe.

Mhm.

And they're okay.

And it's also miraculous given all the trauma that happened to her body that her unborn child at the time was

Yeah.

continuing life.

I know. And that also gives you something to like after such a tragedy like it's good to pour your love into another child.

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Brutal. Brutal. Brutal. All right. Well,

an entity tried to kill me

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I have one that will be a little bit of a palette cleanser [clears throat] is. And it's because I went a little rogue and was like, "Okay, well, a near-death experience could qualify as an entity trying to kill you." [laughter]

Attempted murder.

Attempted murder.

To attempted murder,

near-death experience [laughter] um from our listener Sophie that is called Ant Entity Tried to Kill Me. Hi, I recently stumbled across your page and I watched a couple of your videos and I was an instant fan. But as I watched your episode on true ghost stories, it reminded me of an encounter I had two years ago. I'm 20 now and so I was about 18 when this happened. It was a November night. I was home alone and I was used to being home alone a lot because my mom, who is the only provider of our family, worked a lot. It was just the two of us ever since I was 10. She would come home at about 7:00 p.m. from work. And I had monucleiosis at the time. So I

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was home for about Is that just mono? I think it's just mono. Never heard it called that.

Mononucleiosis.

Yeah. Didn't know that it had a full name like that. So, I was home for about two months. I never felt uncomfortable in my own home. It was a three-story home. It was very spacious. And at around 7:00 p.m., I was in the kitchen located on the first floor making myself some monofriendly dinner. We had a huge counter table where we do most of our cooking. And at the far end of the counter, we have a stack of knives that are in a knife holder so the knives don't fall out or move. And we have a little picture to visualize. And so be included like me cooking. And it's a good drawing. Anyway, I was chopping some vegetables with a small knife when I heard a loud sound coming from the floor above me. I thought maybe my mom came home, so I yelled, "Hi." But no one replied. I waited a second and I heard another loud sound. So now I'm thinking an intruder had come into our house and I'm a little panicked. So I take the knife that I was using to cut the

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vegetables and I grasp it in my hand and slowly I move upstairs to see what's happening. I look to my right to see where the front door is. And that door was closed, but the door next to it, which is always closed and shut tight, was wide open.

The space behind that door doesn't store many items. It hides our boiler and some old house paints. And all of these house paints, which are never stacked on top of each other, but just placed side by side, have all somehow fallen and spilt everywhere. I initially thought that's weird. But phew, no intruder in my house, right? Although I would be like, an intruder tried to go in the closet and knocked all the paint over,

right?

I quickly put my knife down and I start to clean up this paint so it wouldn't damage our floors. And as soon as I start cleaning, I hear a loud sound downstairs in the kitchen where I had been just prior to this. I was like, "Oh my god, someone is [ __ ] with me. Someone did break in." So, I quickly went downstairs and I see that the largest knife that we owned and I never

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touched and had been secured in the knife rack had fallen. Not on the counter, though, but was now on the ground, which is impossible unless someone literally pulled it out of the knife block and placed it there. I instantly felt a chill run down my spine and knew I had to get out of my own house immediately. I called my mom. I told her what had happened, and she said she was stuck in traffic and wouldn't be home for another hour. So, I ran out of the house because I knew that someone or something had either just tried to kill me or scared the living [ __ ] out of me. M

I quickly ran to my neighbor's house where my friend lived. They looked at me very funny, admittedly, but it was then that I realized I was still in my underwear. [laughter]

So yeah, they definitely thought I was crazy.

You're scared. You're not thinking about anything. [laughter]

And she had a big hoodie on. But yeah, uh they probably thought I was crazy, but hey, who wants to go die in their house alone? Not me. When my mom came home, she checked every corner of the house. And she's such a boss because mom, I would never. Uh, that woman has

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balls. No one was in the house. And we checked our cameras and no one entered or exited the house. So, yeah, I now believe an evil entity was there to get me and I did not want to sleep in my house after that. Not to be a complete baby, but I did sleep with my mom in her bed because I was scared to sleep alone.

I have absolutely done that as an adult.

Yeah, for sure. Fortunately, this stuff did not ever occur to me again, but in the moment, it was absolutely terrifying.

Oh my god. saying hello from Slovakia, your new listener, Sophie.

Dang, Sophie, I'm glad that you weren't murdered by your ghost.

And look at how big the knife is. That felt like

Yeah, that's really really big.

And like they have such long blades.

That's a horror movie knife,

right? And the blade is so long that when you think of a knife block, they're deep in there.

Like even if something like tried to like nudge it out, it would take a full

You have the angle has to be right to get it out. Like

that is not an accidental slip.

No. Yikes. and the like bringing you

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upstairs then going down where you were.

Mhm.

I'm glad you survived that night.

Right. And that it like didn't happen again. That there weren't more attempts

or at least none as obvious.

Once once your mom got in that house, the ghost was like, "Oh, I am

with the wrong people."

Wow.

NDE contact with late sister

Okay. Well, I have a story from our listener Nicole. When I was 21 years old, I had an ectopic pregnancy. And for those that do not know what that is, I got pregnant and the fetus didn't make it to the uterus and started growing in my fallopian tube.

Super dangerous.

Very dangerous. Yes.

I had to call 911 due to the pain and I was in the hospital when they told me that my tube had ruptured.

I was internally bleeding. I needed emergency surgery. And so under the knife I went.

That is terrifying.

Before I go into what happened, I need to tell you that my sister died when I was seven. She was a very sick little girl. She passed when she was just 5 years old. She couldn't walk, talk, sit

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up on her own. She couldn't eat or drink. And that is important to this story. So sad. So, now back to my surgery. The last thing I remember is being in my room and them telling me that I was going to go to sleep and I would feel better when I woke up. I drifted off feeling cold and so scared, but then started feeling warm shortly after and less scared. more peaceful. And then I saw her, my sister.

I can remember word for word what she said. She said, "Colley, childhood nickname. I wasn't expecting you."

Oh my [laughter] gosh.

I remember responding, "Chrissy." And her smile grew wider. "Hi, Coley. I think there was a mistake. I'm not ready for you yet. You have lives to change still. Just remember, I always love you. Give mom a hug for me. I'm happy here. You shouldn't worry. [snorts and sighs]

Today, I'm a caregiver in a memory care facility, changing lives every day.

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I love her so much, and I miss my sister every day. I look back on this memory with so much love and so much adoration for her. She is my guardian angel. Thank you for doing this. I don't know how many people would believe this, but I know that I now have a space that I can share this kind of stuff. See you on the other side. And this side too, please. From Nicole.

Wait, Nicole, I also like it's so clear your sister is like just watching out for you and your family.

I wasn't expecting you here, girlfriend. [laughter]

Not yet. Not yet. Wow. I'm also glad that you're okay. Like that is such a scary experience.

Yeah. Yeah. Ectopic pregnancies are very serious.

Yeah. Well, I have one to end this episode on, but don't worry, there's more on Patreon.

That's true. We got a bonus.

You get a bonus story this week. It will be available on Patreon for the only Phantoms tier. So, it's like our $10 a month tier, which gets access to like

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book club, witch class, and then every other week you get a bonus story at the end of encounters.

Um, but before then, Sabrina forgot that I have one more.

Whoopsie. I don't know how to count.

You're just excited to tell your bonus one on feature.

I am excited to tell my bonus story. So basically now you'll get two more stories here and then [laughter] an extra extra story on Patreon.

Yes.

Okay. So this is from our listener Don.

that one time my wife died

And Don says, "That one time my wife died."

Oh,

don't worry. She got better. She lived. She lived or she came back.

Such a creepy way to say it.

Yeah. [laughter] So, I found out about Two Girls of My Ghost from Morbid in 2023, and I went back to the beginning of Two Girls Ghost because I'm crazy, but I've almost caught up. I love your relationship with each other and hope you know how hard it is to find a friendship like that.

No, I just listened to the near-death experience episode, and I thought I would share my wife's story. This

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happened when my wife was a teenager a few years before I ever met her. But here's the tale, the way that I remember her telling me. She and her friend were trunk surfing. What's that?

I think where you jump from one trunk to another on like trucks.

Oh, [laughter] why was I thinking trees? Like little monkeys like jumping from trunk to trunk.

Oh, like tree trunk.

Trunks. What do you think? Tree trunks.

Or is it like where you like have like a string attached to you and you're like on a

Oh, I think that probably makes sense

cuz like surfing. I don't know.

Yeah, you're on something with wheels being dragged behind a truck. But trunk.

Okay. Anyway,

we don't know. Sounds dangerous, though.

It sounds like there's one car. So, they're trunk surfing on her sister's car, a Dodge Neon. Oh, maybe even just like standing up.

Oh,

in the trunk. Either way, very, very dangerous.

They're in the trunk of a car somehow.

What else are you going to do in a small southern town? So her friend starts to fall and my wife T reached out to her

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friend to catch her falling but in doing so ends up falling off the trunk herself and cracked her skull open. It killed her. Her friend was also injured but rec and recovered but T my wife even though before I knew her was apparently dead for 2 to 5 minutes before being officially resuscitated.

That's a long time to be dead like without oxygen to your brain.

[clears throat]

Yeah, she was resuscitated and put into a coma for a bit. And as her mom tells it, she was throwing nurses off of her. It took so many of them to hold her down because her fight orflight instincts went off. She's maintained that supernatural strength and combined with her height, 5'11, that she is a force to be reckoned with. Kind of like you, you're a force to be reckoned with. [laughter]

I'm not, but I'm wider.

Sturdy. Enough backstory. On to the spook. So apparently during her coma she had an outof body experience. She remembers the accident and then her memory goes out but she remembers

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sitting on her bed at home and her sister coming and crying about how sad she was that she hurt her and how it was all her fault that T was in the hospital. And T tried to go up to her sister and talk to her, but her sister acted like T wasn't there at all. Couldn't hear her, couldn't see her. And later when T wakes up from her coma, she tells her sister about this experience. Her sister is in shock because that experience that T saw exactly matched what happened the day after the accident when her sister had gone home to get clothes for everyone who had been in the hospital.

She was out of body projecting, witnessing.

Mhm. Oh, this is like so many of the near-death experiences that we've covered like research wise where people are with their loved ones and like watching them go through the process of like grief, attempted recovery. It

Yeah.

Yeah. Literally seeing it. T looks back now at this memory and this time in her life, minorly annoyed that nobody took

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pictures of her.

What? [laughter] What?

So she can post on Instagram.

Look, I survived. [laughter] Fast forward a few years and I meet T in an internet chat room of all places. Yes, we're old. Not that old, but old. And that's a whole another set of weird. But we met and talked mutually for about a year and then we got married and her sister gave us the car that killed T as a wedding gift. [laughter] [gasps] Now here we are years later, that car long gone, but several spooky incidents and general weirdness behind us. And it seems like there is now a family right of passage of dying and coming back to life or near-death experiences. We're basically a family of zombies. We have a kid and all three of us have technically died and come back.

What? What? Um

are you okay?

I see you on the other side. Dawn.

Oh my god.

But honestly, you kind of are a family of zombies.

Yeah.

You're back from the dead.

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That's kind of cool to be like I'm a zombie.

Anyone who survived and like died and come back to life, you are a zombie. You get to say you're a zombie.

Zombie. That's your theme song. If anyone uh plays baseball and you need a walk-on song and you've died and come back, zombie.

Put on the cranberries.

You are a zombie by definition.

Zombies are real

and they're emailing us. [laughter]

That's wild. Wow.

Thinking about that, I'm shocked that my dad hasn't ever like died and come back because he's had so many near-death experiences as in things that should have killed him,

but he didn't ever technically die,

right? which counts as like kind of a near-death experience. Yeah, in a way.

Way too many.

Oh, wow.

More than nine lives that guy has.

Actually, when I was picking out stories for this, not to say I save lives or anything, [laughter] but it made me think of one of my friends because it's not like these were like near some of them. Well, one of them was definitely near death, but I have one friend who I don't see very often anymore because of my life changes having a child and not

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being as social. But throughout knowing him, I've known him since I was five. There are like three moments where I did intervene and it could have been something bad.

Like you were the guardian.

Yeah. I kind of saved him from a rip tide one time.

Oh my gosh.

And by kind of he I swam into the riptide and gave him instructions on what to do and then I got out of the rip tide and

he listened to me and survived. Another time. This is these are like

not as intense.

Don't underell yourself. Give yourself [laughter] more credit. You're an angel. One time I had like a broken fingers from lacrosse and we were tubing and we the tube flew like way up high into the air and my friend fell and he like let go and he's like falling through the air and I just grab onto his life jacket and he's flapping in the breeze and I'm holding on with my like broken fingers

string [laughter]

and his parents are on the boat and they're like what the hell?

You saved them.

So I probably saved him from a broken bone.

Why are they all They're all water experiences too.

Okay, interesting. The last one is not a

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water experience.

He had an interesting looking hole, [laughter]

but I saw it in the pool and I cornered him and said, "I don't want you to be embarrassed. I'm not trying to like attack you or tell you what to do, but you need to go get that checked." And then I sent to my dermatologist and then I went and got it checked and they said, "This is funky." And then I went off for testing. He's okay, but that I I was in a body of water when identifying his wow

his marking. I said, "This doesn't match the ABCDs I know. [laughter] Wow, you are you are

That's my This is my excuse to brag about my one friend who every eight years I do something to help him survive a little bit more.

You guys got to go meet up in the water again. Just cuz I feel like

I think we need to avoid potties of water together. [laughter]

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out of body, astral NDEs

Um, what story do you have? What are you going to end this episode on? This is called Out ofbody Astral Near-Death Experiences. Hello, Sabrina, Karin, Sven, Leia, everyone else. I've been

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meaning to write this for a couple months now, and I'm finally writing it in the early mornings of Halloween 2024. Nothing spooky going on. Just had to take a friend to work. I wanted to share some out-of- body astral experiences that I had, and I'll try to write them in order, though I didn't write down when they happened, and they did happen years ago. And my pronouns, you can use he or she for me. I don't really care. I am in a male body, but my soul and astral body is female. Love it.

The first one came about when I decided to challenge Lucifer when I got frustrated.

Interesting decision.

Yes. I was really frustrated with what was going on in the world at the time. And a few nights after that, I had gone to bed and at some point I found myself in a pit. The pit had a lot of doors lining it and each one of them was on fire. What did I do? Well, I flew up to the top and as I reached the top, lightning then struck me. It knocked me back down, but I was able to grab onto

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the edge and haul myself out of this pit.

My gosh.

And that is when I came face to face with Lucifer for the very first time. He seemed to be

meaning this has happened m like

Yeah. That makes it seem like

a weekly session with your therapist Lucifer.

He seemed to be impressed that I had escaped. You're [laughter] impressing him. This is the beginning of like a best friend relationship.

It becomes a buddy romcom.

Now, I've never told anyone this. In fact, the first time that I'm telling anyone this is right now. A few years later, my brother had told me that he had experienced something like the pit. He said that he tried to climb out, but then lightning struck him down and he fell. And then he had no choice but to try all of these doors that were on fire.

All of them on fire. He said only one of the doors actually leads out and behind every other door is a fear.

That's so crazy that like his brother's telling him this, not knowing that he also experienced the exact same thing.

Damn.

I believe the next one happened when I was asleep. I was suddenly in a tunnel

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of light people and these light people were talking about near-death experiences. But unlike a lot of other experiences that I've heard about these light tunnels, this one was forked. So, I had to make a choice and I took the lefthand path.

Why are all of your experiences with like options or different [clears throat] paths to follow?

Are you just making the right choices? And

yeah,

this is all a game to Lucifer. One day you might

choice a game. We're all just PCs.

Okay, so I took the lefthand path and I ended up in hell and again I met Lucifer this time for the second time.

He's like, "Not you again." Oh my gosh, you keep taking the wrong turns with the right ones.

Yeah, we had a pleasant conversation, which I really can't remember except for that it was his job to punish people. And now years later on Coast to Coast AM, I hear this woman describing her near-death experience. She said that she had surgery for a brain aneurysm and she described this tunnel of light that

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forked except she took the right hand path, not the left like I did. And now I don't know if I died or not, but did I experience a near-death experience? H

the next experience happened when I was starting to wake up. I saw the image of a beholder coming and rushing at me. A beholder. Is that a religious thing?

I don't know.

I instinctively threw myself back, but my body did not move. Instead, I left my body. I knew what was happening. I was able to move without any trouble and I just got up, went through my bedroom door like it wasn't there. But unfortunately, I was then sucked back into my body at that point.

Also, the idea of like like we've talked about so many different scenarios where it's like you and I are in a place and like would you ditch me if you know like ditching someone else when like a scary thing happens, but you ditched your own physical body.

You ditched yourself.

That's wild.

You literally just you're like, "Peace out, body.

I'm good.

Don't need you anymore." Okay, so my

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next experience happened before I had a physical body, but the memory of it popped up.

So I had been dreaming and in the dream I found a statue with some words written on it. Now these words were a spell, but they were written backwards. When I said those words, a memory came up. I was with four other girls. I had a female body in this memory and we were facing this big black shapeless entity. We had these crystalline structures around us and they were acting as our shields. I was channeling magic from the other four girls through me. There were little pieces of the entity that were starting to chip off like it was being hit with a spell. Years later, I met this guy online and he was the entropic entity. He described the exact same memory but from his point of view. Turns out I had put him to sleep for a very long time with my spell. What? And that memory ties to reoccurring dreams that I had where I was in a field and there are

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five oldfashioned windmills in it and the windmills are falling one by one and there is this really big black entity under the ground that would rise up.

Why are you chilling Adventures of Sabrina

literally?

Yeah. I feel like you are a

I don't think you're you're not of this world. Yeah.

I think you're experiencing like human life

as like a fun shits and gigs.

Yeah. Like

or like are you trying to hide because you did something [gasps]

and Lucifer keeps trying to like pull you back but you keep escaping back to your human body.

I watch the show but you're living it.

But [laughter] but you're living it. Okay. So [snorts] the last one is my favorite experience that I've had so far. One night I found myself in a field and it had some structures that reminded me of Greek and Roman architecture. The sky was very pink with a pearlescent sheen and the colors weren't really washed out. It was just kind of like when you see something with sunglasses and it reduces the glare.

So, I was sitting with another girl. Again, I'm in a female body in this experience. We each had a dress on and the dresses looked like something like a

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out of a princess fairy tale. They were both a shade of blue. Anyway, we're talking. She's worried about not being good enough.

I tell her that they and I don't remember who they were. They wouldn't have picked her if they didn't think that she could do the job.

Oh, wait. that like it makes me think of like how you are to your friend, this listener is able to while living in a human body is still like traveling through the astral pain plane and being like a guardian angel to people.

Oh. Oh, that's sweet. I was thinking of it as a memory, but you're thinking of it as like an active situation.

Yeah.

Interesting.

You leave your body at night and you go shepherd other humans

to continue through their journey.

Don't get down on yourself.

Yeah.

You're great. You deserve this. they wouldn't have chosen you.

Yeah. I can't remember what the job was or what she was picked for, but I had a sense that we were at least pretty good friends, if not sisters, maybe family of some kind.

Oh,

and if you read Birth of Queendom by Velvet Rose Hopkins, it might give you an idea of my experiences since I think

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that kind of seems like where it was. Oh, and full disclosure, the author is a friend of mine who wrote this book.

Oh. and an ex-girlfriend, [laughter] but maybe on the astral plane. She's a family member. It's interesting because she has had dreams of being my grandmother in the astral plane, and I've had dreams of her being my mother, though she doesn't look anything like someone related to me on this physical plane. Yeah. Or like just traveling souls who keep reer re what am I looking for?

Reincarnating.

Reincarnating. Yeah. Like reiterating is definitely not the right word.

Kind [laughter] of.

Yeah. reincarnating like together as different in different relationships.

Anyway, this book that she wrote is a book about her life and sort of like memories of her life on the astral plane. It's influenced by that.

Wow.

And this is where that experience in my dream took place. Well, that's all for now. See you on the other side. You can

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call me Rachel or that that literally is not what they said. But maybe we should call them Rachel. [laughter]

Maybe it's Richard or Jill. Ah, you kind of like Ra Jill. Rich Jill.

Rich Jill.

Wow. RJ,

truly you are experiencing a higher life. It just

you're living in a different frequency than we

seem like the typical human experience, dream world, astral plane. Like even their brother.

Yeah.

Having the same exact dream with the pit and stuff. It does almost make me Okay. I had the I was saying like what if they're hiding in the human body right now? What if they were like banished to the human body? [gasps]

Oh, their whole entire alien family is like in witness protection and the only way you do witness protection is you become a human. You're in spiritual witness protection.

And then it's kind of like who's Lucifer to them.

He's daddy.

It it could my father's Lucifer.

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[laughter]

That's the name of of

of their memoir.

Yeah. I'm like trying to figure it out because it's like they're surviving their encounters with Lucifer and the conversation is kind of friendly and engaging.

I do believe Lucifer is a great time like probably has lots of good stories and is a bit of a narcissist so probably likes the attention and puts on a bit of a show.

It's just I mean I referenced it a few episodes ago about like the meme or whatever that was like when you go to hell there's nothing that they can do to you that isn't already happening on earth. But like I think that that has made the idea or fear of hell

very different cuz it's like what can you offer that's worse?

What can you do? [laughter] If you did like laser hair removal on all parts of my body. Yeah, that's pretty horrible

personally for eternity.

But I'm also willingly doing that to myself. Actually, I will say it's gotten much better. Like the second session was not nearly as bad. So to all those people who I deinfluenced from getting laser hair removal, it's not as bad as I

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experienced in the first time.

Or just let let your freak fly.

Let your hair flow in the wind.

Here comes my indigestion.

Let your indigestion out.

Yeah. Be who you are.

Don't be ashamed.

Okay. So now you have one more on Patreon.

One more on Patreon. But if you have encounters, please email them to us at two girls ghostpodcast@gmail.com. And yeah, if you too can say you're a zombie because you had a near-death experience and came back, uh, please let us know. We we'd love to get more emails from zombies. Oh,

so cool. You forever changed my perspective on that,

right? I guess our listener changed like your your

I wish I could take credit for it, but yeah.

Okay. Okay, we'll see some of you over on Patreon. And for the rest of you,

losers. I'm just kidding. [laughter]

We'll see you in the pit.

Oh, what door are you going to pick?

We're going to paint them all different colors. You never pick the right one.

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Just me making silly faces behind each of [laughter] them.

Scary.

It's us watching you win every laser hair removal session. [laughter]

No, I I silently scream inside. It's not an external scream. Okay. But we do love you and we will see you on the other side.

Very spooky.