Two Girls One Ghost Podcast | Haunted With Ghost Huns Podcast

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very spooky we just met our like English BFFs our British counterparts Susie and Hannah from Ghost hun I love them they're so fun and they actually go on ghost hunts all the time which is so great and it's so wild to me you're about to hear a haunted with ghost hunts episode that Ken and I did a couple months ago and it's so wild to me because as Ken said they go on so many investigations and little like ghost hunts but seem to be the most skeptical and then yet and they read the

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scariest listen stories and doesn't Susie live in a haunted house like yes I don't know hand on the traitors right I think they're just cool cool people they're just cool and they're hilarious I found myself laughing so much with them and also being like when should we go to England when should they come to Massachusetts we're planning a trip you know what we should do I mean I want to hang out with them but we should do like a life swap real quick oh my God it's like the holiday the holiday let's do the holiday with them okay we have a new pitch for that we got to call them out we got to call them but we really really loved this episode we talked a lot about different types of paranormal experiences and stories and go check them out after this too because they're just uh they're a good time mhm okay toles do you get EVPs in your actual podcast because we have so many listeners who will listen to our podcast and be like oh my gosh I hear a voice at XYZ time and it's when K and I are absolutely completely alone when recording so it's like it's not us yeah

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we have had that that's really weird is when people are like listening to it back and they're like someone just walked behind you someone just laughed and then you and like other people are like corroborating it and you're like what right and then you look it up because you're like there's no way there's got to be something else like they're mishearing it and then you're like what the [ __ ] was that yeah yeah weird because I'm still like on the fence about you know like my beliefs about it because I'm like I really want to I really want all of this to just like confirm that all of it's real yeah all these things come in all these bits of evidence and I'm still like oh I don't know but you can't explain it why are you I don't know yeah I'm shocked you're on the fence I'm quite on the fence though as well after all the stories you both have read yeah I really want ghost to be real but then I [ __ ] [ __ ] myself all the time my parents live in a house that is actually [ __ ] haunted and they went away for like on holiday that's what I was going to ask have you had experiences and when I'm working when I'm gigging up north I'll go stay with

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them and then they were away and the whole house was like the the house was silent it's like an old Victorian Edwardian house that Susie has witnessed weird [ __ ] happening in and it's just I'm so petrified when they went I had to get people to come and stay with me I had to go stay at friends houses if I was there on my own I had to myself a bedroom and not leave this isn't the house that you grew up in though is it yeah oh it is and that's where I had my ghost experience so you've had ghost stories from the beginning so what happened well this is the time when I think I got really I started getting really interested in it because I was in Susie is so bored of hearing this [ __ ] story um I was in my bedroom and I was basically looking in my mirror to like do my makeups get ready and go get fingered in a field when I was like 15 and my I saw someone walk past my my door was open so I could see the door in my mirror and I saw my dad walk past and go into the bathroom cuz he's a and

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every time he'd come home from work he'd go straight into the bathroom to have a shower so I saw him out the corner of my eye walk past like his work trousers go into the bathroom turn the shower on turn everything on and I went in to try and find him so he could give me a lift to my M's house and nobody was in there and my mom was like no he's just called from the van he's he'll be late and I was like I've just seen him in the bathroom she's like he's not here and it was just me and my mom in the house it was so it looked like him like it was just yeah you know when you see out the corner of your eye and I heard him I heard the water I heard everything it was like middle of the day I wasn't even scared nothing spooky was happening I was just getting ready it makes me wonder if this is some sort of like residual haunting where you were it's a pattern repeated so frequently by your dad that it just was like this energy stain that kind of or you have a mimic in your house and that's really scary some sort of like doppelganger oh that's even worse you think that Susie yeah I just think mimics are just one of the creepiest the

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someone who's got your like your mom's voice being like darling and you'd be like oh yeah and then it's like your mom's not in the house and you're like [ __ ] and it's so weird how for like a long period of time it can accurately mimic either physically audibly whatever it is that person but then there's a shift where it starts to turn a bit more malicious like the voice that you recognize starts to become like echoey and gutter there's nothing chill hearing you say that that makes me feel are you on your own in that house as well Susy yeah also if you see anything [ __ ] behind me I'm gonna lose my [ __ ] we won't tell you is that house haunted so I'm currently living in my parents house that I grew up in I don't think it's haunted but I do hear very odd things at night so like I'm staying up in the attic room and so I have have my own little like third floor but then when I go to the in the night I

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always hear something padding on the hallway downstairs and I'm like it must be a draft obviously I've opened a door and it's made another door and I'm like that doesn't make any [ __ ] sense right and only at night it's so funny how the both of you have said that you're very skeptical that you want to believe I understand like going through all these rational like oh it must be this but I feel like you both fully believe I think we just want it to be so real do you know what it is I think it's like it's a self-preservation thing like I get so stad and I love all of it like I do and I feel like the minute I actually fall down the rabbit hole and I'm like right here we go but like a level of cynicism sort of helps me keep a bit of distance from what could just drag to whereas Ken and I have the opposite where we're like we are fully taken by the Paranormal Obsession and dragged into the fully believe to the point where we probably believe too many

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things that we shouldn't our childhood houses were very haunted and it went far beyond just us experiencing things ourselves it was like our whole family people who would come into our homes would experience things for the first time Sabrina's dad was like maybe possessed speaking another language still possibly possessed still haven't figured out can you tell us more about that you know I wish I knew more but basically my dad has been married now three times and every single one of his Wives has said the same thing that in his sleep he speaks a language that is not any language they understand and he's been married to my mom is from the states but he's married a Russian woman a Lithuanian woman like people who speak and are you know well-versed in other languages do not recognize what he speaks he's also a troubled man so I think the things on top of each other add to is he possessed I don't know oh my goodness so he's got like he's got

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demons yeah he also did past life regression where like one of those hypnosis sessions and a past life came through and I guess he was able to find information about this past life afterwards but it was someone who was not great and I guess tries to currently take over my Dad's life oh my God that's well between the four of us here it's going to be a miracle if this recording actually records given just how many experiences we've all had and how many issues we have this is going in the ghost bin like that's it's never seriously have you guys like seen have you seen a ghost yes really I haven't in like the physical form but I've experienced a lot of paranormal things okay that you just can't explain away yeah I've seen multiple Spirits I grew up in Vermont my parents built our house house like it was a brand new

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development we know the people Vermont is somewhere that I I'm so obsessed with going you should oh ver to Vermont absolutely you should obsessed I will make you itineraries it is so beautiful it is very spooky too but it's also just one of the most welcoming places ever like you'll be so it's like a Hallmark movie that is real yes it's a beautiful beautiful place here's the plan you two both come to Vermont I we'll both meet you there and we find a haunted place to do a Ouija board maybe we go to Karen's childhood home where she has seen actual ghosts and we give you the evidence oh my God I love that we're gonna book flights today pleas it's a business trip I'm Google mapping Vermont right now yeah I think that you two might be what me and Susie desperately want to be I think you two are incredibly Supernatural and me and Susie are trying desperately but they're like we no we're not we're not hanging around with those basic bit

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I think that's what's happening that's how I feel about aliens I want an Alien Encounter I want to be abducted by aliens so bad that I think aliens are like you're too thirsty it's never going to happen yeah so I I I understand your pain maybe we're just too needy they're definitely going to be male ghosts aren't they do you know what I just discovered I was trying to get True Detective to work on my TV because I've got this like illegal fire stick the VPN and um yeah yeah the VPN woo and then I I was like looking up true I typed in true and uh it was wasn't coming up but then strange but true came on and I was like do you maybe you guys won't know what that is but it was like this no show in the 90s in the UK and it was like this man in like a a roll neck and a blazer walking around this old library being like hello I'm Michael aspel and I've got some paranormal strange but true stories for you and then it just wait this is sounding familiar oh my God was so good and I

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just clicked on it and it was the tale of Todd Madan which is that place in um yeah Yorkshire isn't it and yeah this famous alien case where they found this guy like on top of this coal stack just at odd angles and his face was like Frozen in Terror and there's all these multiple Witnesses of odd things happening around the time that he was discovered and he had this weird substance at the back of his um ear I'm writing this down I know Sabrina's about to research this for an episode I can see it in her face I don't think they knew how he died did they no well there's theories that he was placed onto the stack of coal but there were like there was no Footprints leading up to this stack of coal and there were like cows were discovered in the village and they were like how the [ __ ] did the cows get out and like because they've been scared away some people think so bizarre and people have been like we saw this huge [ __ ] light and this diamond [ __ ] anyway the whole thing is mad but um Todd Maden Todd I can't I don't know how

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to spell it but look it up Todd M I think it's it's like yeah it's t o d m o r d oh my gosh it's there's so much about it York and Yorkshire are both very haunted places though aren't they yeah yes Sabrina maybe that's where you should go this summer oh you should go to York it's amazing oh my God hilarious so if we come to Vermont then you've got to come over to todan of course it's only fair that we do both it has to be like a double whammy experience for both both of us yeah yeah we want to join you on one of your ghost hunts because not to not to toot our own horns but we've done two overnight ghost investigations so far and both times there has been so much activity that the other people that are with us are like wow this is this is a lot more than you typically get so I don't know if we just come in with a certain energy that makes the spirits go crazy I think you've got the x that we want bring us along we don't have to do anything but we'll just trigger the Paranormal Activity I guess

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I need to do that what happened in your childhood home in Vermont then oh my gosh so many things my parents built the house it was on this Farmland we knew the family who owned the farm it had gone back generations and actually only in this past year did I get the opportunity to ask one of the people from that family if they had ever experienced anything weird on the land cuz I was like there are a lot of houses in this brand new development built in the '90s and early 2000s that is having a lot of activity like we had a neighbor who had to have their house exercised like a lot of stuff and they did say that they felt some demonic presences in their Farmhouse so the whole land we we have no idea why it's haunted but it appears to have a lot of activity in my childhood home there are just so many stories so many people had their very first experiences there I saw things constantly my favorite Ken recently shared there was an art a newspaper article written by a friend of kin's who spent

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the night at her house at her childhood home and literally wrote an article about the ghostly encounter she had at her friend kin house yeah it affected her so much that like seven years later she wrote an article in the newspaper about when she experienced a ghost in my house is it built on some sort of I don't know like lay lines or yeah that's a good question I don't know I think it's Karen and her family to be honest well to be fair every house my parents have ever lived in has also been haunted regardless of if they build it or not so there's definitely something there maybe you guys are just haunted that might be true but we do have one really nice haunting at this house and I have actually never experienced the spirit but a lot of other people who come over will see a black dog with a red collar and they say it looks like a little lab he or she will just be like curled up and sleeping somewhere or sometimes walking around and one person was sitting at our kitchen table and

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literally watch the ghost dog walk up to them walk under the table kiss like give them a little like lick on their leg and keep going like a little drive by KISS so and she was looking down at the table and then basically watched the ghost dog just disappear and then she went up to my mom and she was like I really don't know how to say this I don't know how to like how open you are to the idea of the Paranormal but you have you have a ghost dog here and my mom was like oh we have way more than a ghost dog here but that is petrii so which one have you seen Karen I've seen a lot I think the scariest experience I ever had in the house was I was in my childhood bedroom and I had my bed against the wall because I was too scared to have the bed Exposed on both sides like I didn't want something coming up on either side of my bed so it was pushed against the wall so I could at least feel protected in that way and I woke up in the middle of the night because I kind of felt like a a presence and my bedroom door I always kept it open because I I wanted to like

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basically see my parents' bedroom door cuz I was always scared of being in my haunted house and through my sight line I could basically see my parents bedroom door but I could also see the top of our stairwell which was kind of like in l-shape and then it went around so I could see like the majority of the top of the stairs and the banister and I saw this man and he had like really it was almost like white military cut like buzz cut hair and kind of like a what you would view as like a casual Army outfit like he had a T-shirt and the cargo pants and the belt and he was slowly walking up the stairs and his hand you could literally hear it on the banister you could hear like the sh of someone dragging their hand across it it was so slow it like honestly I think the whole encounter took like 30 minutes for him to make it to the top of the stairs turn around and finally get to my bedroom door and he just stands there and he's staring at me and his skin is like Pock marked with all of these acne scars and he's a lot older he's got a lot of wrinkles like so much detail that you

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can see it was the scariest [ __ ] experience I've ever had and he's staring at me so intently on like he looks like he wants to kill me and I'm now sitting up in my bed so I'm like on the edge of my bed fully up just staring back at him and it took him what 30 minutes to get from the top of the stairs to my bedroom door which was like 7t away he went from moving that slowly to all of a sudden sprinting at me and he comes and I literally get knocked over with like a wind and I'm like blown back on my bed and then he's not there anymore oh my God I somehow like Scooby-Doo run to my parents room my mom comes and she sleeps with me that night she agrees that she'll sleep in my bed so I put her closest to the door and so that I'm safe on my bed next to the wall yeah and I wake up a few hours later because I sense a presence and I look over and he's again standing in the doorway and he just stares at me I probably stared at him again for like 15 minutes until I just like turned back around and hid underneath my mom and I

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never saw him again oh I've got full ghost bumps that is V oh my God disgusting yeah Karina is also the type of person who I've known her now for like 12 years and this story the first time I ever heard it was like a year ago like so she will continue to reveal ghost stories and I'm like where has this been and also like has anyone else seen him description like who is he I have no idea because the only thing that would make sense for the land in the area too is that there's a Native American burial ground like a quarter mile away but none of the spirits that we've ever seen in my house appear to be Native American right right so that doesn't make any sense so we have no clue who this guy is that is half an hour so you guys could come sleepover we'll have a haunted sleepover together 100% I've never been to that house so I

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really would love to make this happen we should do it we need to go for like a month in America to go do all these things 2025 we want to come to America please you guys think that that is wild but to me and Sabrina I think the fact that you guys go and do paranormal investigations every month and use the OU board as regularly as you do like that to us is like that's scary you're brave it's because they won't hang out with us we're not cool enough they're not interested they're like oh it's these [ __ ] thirsty [ __ ] again go away oh my God I think like a few things what I thought was really I mean Susie again thinks that this is less weird but we went to this it's supposed to be like the most haunted house in Europe and to be honest nothing happened it was a bit like it was a bit [ __ ] where was it it's called 30 Drive have a look at it it's supposed to be like the most haunted place ever but it wasn't it was a bit Nast but somebody that I knew was there and her daughter came was like she was like 18 but she was like I can feel

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something on my back and we had a look on her back and there was nothing there she was like it feels like something's really burning and we had another look and there was still nothing there and then like a few minutes later she was like no it was really hurting we lifted a top up there was a tiny almost like baby hand print but with scratches it looked like scratches down and then a little hand prints e like for there to be nothing there yeah those type of experiences are so scary like when they actually can physically leave something on you and hurt you yeah also can I point out Hannah that you were like oh nothing happened there and then you tell this yeah well to be honest it really really was a bit [ __ ] was it at first it because guy who was showing us around seemed so depressed and he kept talking about his ex-wife and we were like here we go that's so sad all these psychics we keep meeting and mediums are called like Dave and Steve and they drive Vans and it's all a bit

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like yeah I'm so curious and because Ken and I were talking about this and we spent a lot of time on our podcast just Reminiscing on our childhood and you know we both grew up in the states did you both grow up in England yeah are there like aside from Ouija board when you were growing up what were like the Paranormal games you played at sleepovers did you do Bloody Mary I'm curious like culturally what was different well we weirdly every at the end of every episode on our podcast we do a game so we've probably done them all um we definitely used to do Bloody Mary we would kind of make them up like I remember being like at my friend's house her mom was like this artist so she had loads of amazing candles and it was like always low lit and so we would always like light a candle and then try and look at ourselves in the mirror in the dark and then if you stare at your reflection long enough it shows you what you're going to look like or a ghost in like you'll become a ghost or something so I remember doing that we did levitations light as a feather stiff as a board sort of thing yeah that was from

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the C did anything ever happen do you feel like did you ever levitate no no one ever did levitate there was actually one weird time when this girl who was she was a bit of an outcast but I quite liked her because she was a spooky [ __ ] one of us and I was like oh I know like socially hanging out with her is not great for my brand but and now look she was very like you know quiet but she'd be like oh I am I know a spell we can do it if you like at lunch and I was like no go on then I love her yeah I love her and we did and she like she would like get all these different leaves and twigs and she'd make this little circle and then she would like mutter something and I'm not joking the wind picked up out of nowhere slammed a bin over and I was [ __ ] thrilled I was like this woman's btch I was like where is she now I know I've lost touch with her I don't know you know the woman black the original film

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she had VHS she I remember her being like you know sweep over with her was never let's watch a silly movie like lepre corn 2 it was like let's watch the original woman in black and like it stayed with me for forever because it was the creepiest [ __ ] film I've ever seen I like really hope that I left that type of impact on someone in my childhood like I really hope someone's Reminiscing on me being that spooky [ __ ] that they knew oh my God yeah I mean it sounds like this woman had some real power too like you met a true intuitive practicing witch I think so I know Fula where's Fula I'd love to be a witch I want to go to witch School us too okay so sign us up we recently decided we had a conversation with f jeda if you know who they are but they're a practicing witch and have written a bunch of books and a lot of listeners of ours are practicing witches and I feel like K and I have had a lot of experiences where we're like do we

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have capabilities what's going on but we feel like frauds so we don't actively say we're witches but I so badly want to be right to have that control and be able to like actually act on it when you want to that is power I want to do a spell if I get like bored when I was younger I'd sit there and try and do the Matilda and try and like knock something over still do that I do it all the time I was like surely I can do it there's a couple of which here isn't there like down in Cornwall and by ocean and stuff like that so I I think we need to go I actually caused me physical pain that an owl never gave me my letter to Hogwarts like yeah me too I I'm not over it like that is actually a trauma in my life that a therapist one day is gonna have to be like you're just a [ __ ] muggle and it's a book yeah and I'm like I can't get over how much I'm not it wasn't my fate and it's so sad it does feel worse for you guys because you're proxy it and where you're located like

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why weren't you invited you're right there it's so easy can I argue it's worse for me because I'm nowhere near the like the magic of London that exists in the movie and the books and stuff so like you at least have that yes true true I think we see the magic of London in two different ways sabrin I we do not experience the magic of London anymore I'm going to come hang out with you both this summer hey Hannah can I come visit your childhood haunted home when I'm there this summer oh my God absolutely we've got like the last time I was there me and my brother stayed my parents were away again God they're always [ __ ] away [ __ ] never doing anywh me and my brother stayed there and we came downstairs one morning and we've got like a sell basement probably like the same size as the hallway and living room so it's quite a big Cellar and the door is never opened we don't open it because there's nothing down there except for those are junk I made a horror film when I was at school so there's like fake blood all up the walls from when I did that which does kind of add to the Ambiance of it all me and Susie recorded an episode of our

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patreon down there actually once I was just going to say that seems like the best studio yeah so we came downstairs and the door to the cell was wide open and the light was on and we were like who the [ __ ] is open like we're not here and he's like 25 and sleeps until midday so I don't think he could really be asked to go and do all that and he just looked petrified and then we were in the kitchen talking about it and then we heard a Nokia 3310 go from by the salador are you [ __ ] kidding me no so then i' I've got my pajamas on he's got his pajamas on he pushed me out the way to get to the front door and my nan lives next door so we ran around to my nan who's like 75 and we were like there's someone in the cell she was like you're being ridiculous so she came around with us there was nobody in the cell and then we were like what where is that noise come from and my mom's phone was there my

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mom's work phone was like in a bag next to the seller but there was no missed call her ringtone wasn't the same very weird at that point I was like somebody is in the cellar like it's somebody's there it's not a ghost there a like murderer well and for how often your parents are going out of town you would kind of think that maybe those people that are what do they call them they're like Froggers or something like that people that post up yeah there could have been someone Liv hate that so much terrifying I'm going to have to go and check all the walls now see that's the thing though is like real humans sometimes are way scarier than anything paranormal the idea of a human being there is worse than a ghost 100% my mom also said that when we were younger my brother was like a baby she said that she saw a little boy run up the stairs and around the corner of the stairway and she said like it was that real that she thought it was like a kid from the house next door or something so went upstairs and loed and there was no there do you know any of the story of that house not really it's

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really old like over a hundred years old and there's like still all the servants quarters and like the Bells on the wall and stuff like that so it is and then also there's a there's a thing above the kitchen door when the house was built like very rich people used to live there so there's a thing above the kitchen door that's got that's linked to the bells and all the different room so if somebody would to ring a bell you would could see where where it was coming from so if it was from the living room there's a little little flag that waves where it's coming from and you'll look at that flag sometimes and it will just going like this where's the servants quarters in your house you know the barn outside yeah the upstairs used to be the servants quarters and downstairs was the stable oh Jesus Christ like for anyone listening they're probably Imagining the house in The Haunting like to be where you it's not it's not sh it's not a massive house but it's got like the more you talk about it Hannah I'm like can I live there this summer I'm inviting myself I mean my

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parents probably won't [ __ ] be there so yeah I'll write my book from there it's not like huge as it Susie it's not massive massive but it's like it's not it's not tiny but it's certainly not a man it's got Charmed Vibes it's like the house in Charmed have you experienced anything there Susie no I I don't think I have but I I know that from having heard all the stories I do feel a bit on edge there and I that could be just because the stories are freaked me out but yeah there is a Vibe well also when we recorded the episodes my mom came downstairs and like a big horrible mask and Peaks around the Sid it was horrible I love that it was horrible if she didn't say anything did she she didn't say anything even when she left she didn't say anything when I get scared I swearing so I was like [ __ ] off [ __ ] yourself [ __ ] and I was like okay hold it down this is like Hannah's mom and like Grandma is upstairs smells like oh yes she was yeah when it comes to fight

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ORF flight you were fighting Susie I'm fighting so the studio that you record in you've had EVPs captured on your episodes like are there other podcasts that record in that studio space have you guys made it haunted well the the building that we record in is like one of the oldest theaters in London and it's been converted into like a podcast Studio space because it's under where Spotify are and it's the Adelphia on the street brand and like there's tons of stories about ghosts and all that kind of stuff and like actually the one of the the podcast Studio guys has said that when he's there by himself he hears like a tapping like just a light tapping as he's working and he's like ever since you guys have come in he's like what the [ __ ] have you brought with you like great and I don't know about other podcasts and what they've experienced but like I think there's something there right because like we we found out this story about this um we called her po Jenny because she was this prostitute in

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London and she used to like take her clients under this like bypass which is like this one-way road that no one goes down anymore but you can walk down it again if you're in London you're going to have to check it out it's really really creepy yeah is and we tried to get in touch with her on the Ouija board to be like is Jenny here and it feels like there is something residual from that story there because yeah but don't know it's it's a really weird place isn't it yeah it is quite spooky I love that you've haunted your recording studio like that you've made it more active that like football is going Ed to do their podcast and politics yeah yeah the power of being like you're welcome here's Paul Jenny for you hi everywhere we go I think ghosts are following us but they just don't really want to communicate with us yeah which is so annoying have you gotten any psychic readings done or found out if you have any spirit guides or Guardians with either of you no we've never done

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that we need to have one actually we wanted to record it though yeah I know and no one will let us maybe we should just go and have it done we should I do get a bit worried that someone's going to tell me something that's going to happen and I'll take that literally and then that will change my decisions on you know what I mean I had this conversation with Karen yesterday where it's like I think I always had such a skepticism about psychics and mediums for that specific reason it's like are you now altering your decisions based on something someone told you but if you go and get a reading and it's more specifically maybe about the past or like not a prediction of the future I think it would be interesting to know if there are any spirits around you that's true a prediction of the future would be terrifying yes yeah because I think I'm too sensitive I think if someone was like oh you are going to die in a week yeah what a horrible week I'm gonna have like that will stay with me and I know this shouldn't tell you stuff like that because you right like a really [ __ ]

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psychic who's just like going to portend your doom but yeah I I'm always wary of going to the wrong person and they they're just going to play in my mind rentree for the rest of my life because actually my mom did that she go her like her friend dragged her along to this like palm reading when she was in her 20s and this woman was like oh you've got a really short Lifeline oh God you're going to and you know like was awful and was like said she was going to die hurt and it was like God you know and she basically like I'm gonna die young and it's gonna and you know it's her birthday today and she's 77 so I'm like it you know I'm just like you've got to be so careful because that can stay in your head and make you go [ __ ] uput yeah but that makes me mad at that woman then because it's like that is just I think an abuse of your power completely if her power is even [ __ ] real you know but I also think that some people are just mentally ill and think that they can see that

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true yes and I think that's hard to sometimes differentiate because I went to a spiritualist church once when I was younger for a bit of a laugh at like these ridiculous people that pretend like they can speak to people but it was so sad because there was so many grieving people there and it was like oh this is actually awful because they're just using this like power I mean I was kind of torn between it because I thought well maybe if they're getting a lot out of it then if it's not hting anyone but I was I don't think it's your place to do that it's their own version of therapy and like yeah understanding G if it helps someone it helps someone but I agree because it's really hard to find someone who's authentic oh definitely but he was he said to this woman like oh so your mom is definitely dead and she was like well I hope not cuz I've just left the house and she was there then so like but she was quite old so I think it was an assumption that her mom would be dead yeah I kind of love how inaccurate he was because it's like it's like oh my gosh Karen and I have come up with code words so if either of us passes away

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before the other that we could find a medium around the other person and like whisper our old word was purple panties we changed it but whisper it over and over to the person so they have to deliver the message to Kin or vice versa that's good idea and no it's me we should definitely do that [ __ ] I'm now thinking about what it should be because Sabrina is heading to London this summer and I'm holding her accountable because she keeps saying that she's going so by us announcing it again on the podcast she will be there you guys are the locals to the area so what are some of if you could pick like three spots that people who wanted to experience the Paranormal or have a chance to potentially experience the Paranormal what are the recommendations can I add some sub categories to this like what is your number one most like scary haunted then like the other ones can be more like you

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can experience things like is there one that you wouldn't want to go to because it's said to be so scary I think the one that we did that was the best was the spookiest was chillingham Castle yeah I would say that like something will happen it's really really weird there and it's a castle I mean it's not London it's like on the border of to Scotland but but it's not that far away chilling H it's about a 4H hour drive no about a 7h hour drive sorry the bottom to the top so it's not too bad but it is amazing is there anywhere close York's also very haunted there's just so many haunted pubs in London yeah yes I went to the one where the all the money is like up on the ceiling yes the Grenadier in hi Park I've put my money on that [ __ ] ceiling we do have you oh my God we're such idiots why do you put the money on the ceiling because you have to pay the debt for the guy who yeah he lost a gambling bet or something and he was bit of a Shyer and he was shot and

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um it's like to pay off his debt to the ghost that haunts I did you put on there I put a dollar me too oh a dollar great whoever owns the place if you put a bigger than a dollar bill that's no longer on the ceiling or on the wall yeah I think it's exactly it's just like a Ponzi scheme in there they're like yeah sure there's a there's a it's cool though CU you look up and you're like oh my gosh and it is just a cool Pub like I I remember like the fireplace place and the old art and everything when you come Sabrina you'll have to come on one of the ghost hunts absolutely I mean I'm already like planning on just spending the whole time with you instead of writing my book now absolutely yeah all plans out the door ghosts all the time some Jager Bombs some white wine and some ghosts it'll be perfect sounds like a great time oh I'm already jealous that I'm gonna miss it Karen you've got come you got you've got to now we're making the work trip I know I'll be birthing a child this summer first so I'll be I'll be whispering

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creepy little things trying to make their first word be like ghost or something like that oh my God not to freak you out but the kids my nephew he's nearly two he's gonna be two at the end of this month and he makes me go outside and sit in the car so he can like press the horn and funny around with all the stuff and my car was parked in front of my parents dining room that's got massive bay windows and he looked in and he went hello hello and I was like no one's there and then I saw the door open a little bit so I thought my sister his mom had come in from the kitchen and was going to wave at him yeah and then he went hello Mommy and I thought oh yeah she's she's done that we went back into the house and she was like I haven't moved I haven't moved from sitting here but he does always say got really long dark hair and he always says if he sees anyone with long dark hair he just goes mommy hello Mommy okay that is freaking creepy can be really creepy because they see it don't they Well it's worse cuz it's like when you have a pet or something and your like

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dog or your cat is staring up in the corner you can just be like maybe they see something or maybe they're just being quirky but when a child is like hi hi and you're like I'm in the middle of the cemetery right now like there's no one else around and that is so creepy I'm looking forward to it though he gets really scared of the shadows as well sometimes but not all Shadows he's like Shadow and I'm like what is that do you think he sees Shadow People maybe yeah like some Shadow like the shadow of a lamp or something he's like he doesn't care about then sometimes he goes Shadow and like there's not really a shadow there it's really weird I hate it when kids do creepy things I inadvertently created the hatman Shadow on my wall for this recording right now a little bit yeah we need to give you a little more of a top hat do you know for a second then it really did look like and I'm not just saying this because we're doing a ghost thing when you said the hatman it looked like it just went like w like cuz the the rim disappeared for a bit have a

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look on the recording we'll watch it back okay I'm curious you guys have read so many stories on your podcast of people's paranormal experiences are there any that have really stuck with you where you cannot stop thinking about it or you find yourself referencing them all the time oh good question what so was Lynn wasn't there from the very first episode it was Lynn the wife yeah but for the ones that are written in though it's the kids who like see something like we were talking about just now those sort of stay with me about like when they wave at someone called Jason or whatever the [ __ ] like yeah imaginary friends and then you find the grave of Jason in the backyard during your Renovations yeah yeah yeah or they're like um Sarah doesn't like you Mommy and it's like oh my gosh we literally just read a story like that where it was like you're not allowed to talk to my imaginary friend like they don't like you Fred doesn't like you and you can't be here yeah yeah oh it's so gross that one of

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the um the haunted circus tent was weird this woman Sabrina wrote in this story about how she this like circus tent for her kid and she saw a shadow CR like crouching in it and there was like it it was like back lit and like there was someone crouching in the tent and as she ripped it open there was no one there and she said that like she would always smell like stale smoke and it was it only happened ever since she bought this tent and then she was like time to get rid of the [ __ ] tent then because yeah clearly like got something attached to it and then yeah that was gross it was gross wasn't it and the kid was like screaming and being like get him off and it was like I don't know just I it was just weird it was very creepy that it's more you know when you get a story where the imagery is so strong it's like yes like with any good book it's when you have this kind of mental image of like this circus tent and the shadowed like those are the creepiest ones I think right and

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anything that's crouching or crawling is just inherently yeah yeah terrifying have you seen what's that video called that we looked at there that bloke on the train oh yeah that was Grim basically somebody made like a really short film it's only about three minutes long and they're on a train and like all of a sudden everything around them just goes really quiet and they look around like down the aisle and there's a man standing there and he's got like there's there's no like eyes in the socket and then she's like that's like he looks really weird comes back looks back at him again and all of a sudden he goes and like crouches in this in this like really animalistic way and then she looks again and he's come's his one seat closer ew oh my God wait is this real is this a real video no it's not a real thing they've got like an it's like three minute yeah like a short film but again the imagery of someone because there's a bit where he just goes like that and like leans over to like byy her from

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behind his chair she looks away and then he's much closer and and it's like you don't see him initi it's like three minutes long but it is absolutely terrify okay we'll link this in our show notes so that everyone can watch the video whoever made it is very good Susie also told me about one that made me watch it when we were doing the Adam BR friend show and it was V what was that one called which one remember when she turns the light on and off oh lights off lights on or something oh I've seen that one yes it's terrifying oh my wait okay have you seen this this is a real video it is the video of these two girls in their apartment and they're playing that game where you have that little like hook and you let go of it on a string the ring toss and in the doorway of the video a little ghost woman who's floating like her feet are not on the ground crosses the doorway she wear like a white night gown and her

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hair is down like this yes and actually we we were able to find the girls that were or one of the girls that was in the video and she at first agreed that she would come and talk to us about it but then she kind of like ghosted us a little bit probably got scared about yeah I know right it is terrifying though you have to go frame by frame too cuz like when you first look at it you don't think anything of it cuz it's like college age or like fresh out of college age kids just like playing a game you know like having some drinks having fun in their living room but when you go back and you watch it in more slow motion you see this like dark figure just like floating through no the hallway you know what though the skeptic in me says why are they filming it they were filming them playing the game I think to see if they would get it on the oh yeah they were like trying to capture them actually getting the ring toss but I would agree with you with a lot of other ones where I'm like why were you filming in this moment yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like all the ones where people have videos in their

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bedroom and they're like caught on camera while my wife was out of town and it's like why you filming bed sheet moving and I'm like why are there three different CA angled cameras in your bedroom how about cryptids in the UK what kind of Cryptids do you believe in and what are like the the ones to look out for we've not really delved in much have we we haven't delved into crypted no I mean i' I've seen a panther where oh that's not crypted though although the thing is is that there's an explanation and it's like in the 70s and 80s when they used to sell exotic cats and Harolds and like all these like Posh owners who just ended up being like well I can't look after this massive [ __ ] pum or whatever and they did release them into the wild so there is an explanation why there are sightings of big cats in the UK but I did 100% see one and but that again that's not crypted that's just a big big kitty so yeah I know but that's still very scary to

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experience yeah I'm pretty sure it's from the UK there's this wellknown case of a blackeyed kid yes oh yeah it's by a pub yes black eyed children of canic Chase we [ __ ] went we went to can Chas you did yeah we went looking for them just as you said that kid is literally at the window there just looking in like that [ __ ] sake no oh my God kic Chase is about 40 minutes away away from my hometown there's apparently a pig man as well half man half pig and there's yeah there's blackeyed kids and they um they turn up at your house if you manage to attach if they get attached to you they'll turn up at your house and they'll be like oh we can't find our mommy can we come in and you have to be like no [ __ ] off yeah because if you don't get away from me child if they come in then you get then you die there was actually a story I don't know I think it's more of a legend I don't know if it's true or not but apparently it was was of um like a team of paranormal investigators who hired a

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ghost podcast went to kind of investigate the children and two of the people in the podcast they were like a couple so when they got home the one of the guys said that these kids turned up at his house did all this and he refused them but the next day his friends who did it with him they said that the kids turned up at their house and they let them in and then they died in the car crash holy [ __ ] that's terrifying isn't it and you guys actively went to go try to find these black here's the thing though you two are fine so it worked out okay I guess yeah I've pitched this to Ken so many times and I'm going to say it out loud here now because one we won't do it and two this is just like how my creative fictional brain works but there's always been a part of me that is like said to Karen what if all of a sudden like we start this narrative where you and I are going to go go senting or Bigfoot chasing whatever it is and we cliff hang an episode like turn our podcast into a f podcast for a minute without telling people and we cliff hang an episode

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where like some crazy [ __ ] happens and CR and I just go silent for a [ __ ] month and just see what people do we we couldn't do that though I'm like it's such a good idea but it's so cruel it's so mean and also it's going to be like the boy who cried wolf like something will happen exactly yeah and you'll be like yes L and then suddenly you'll be like the black eyes kids will actually come in get you oh yeah yeah and no one will look for us because they're like they've done this to us before our listeners are so kind too that I think they would figure out like actively find out where we live and come do it like health check on us like are you alive yeah drag us to some like Shaman or church yeah yeah they do like a dope [ __ ] with cats thing and go on their own little investigation yeah yeah so we won't do it which is why I'm okay saying it but at least I can say idea I had the idea maybe one day in another Endeavor we'll create some fake thing

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yeah you guys can do it let us know how it goes see if the blackeyed kids actually ever show up so have you guys not done a Ouija board then well okay well I did one when I was young growing up and that was the last that I had ever touched one and then I swore I would never use a Ouija board again because I was so terrified just from hearing all of the stories of people not closing out the boards correctly or you know some of the stuff that just can yes but you guys do we had like such a Negative opinion of it but then I think in recent years I'll say myself personally I've realized that what's really the difference between using a Ouija board and any other form of communication I think what is important is setting like intentions and you know not inviting demons in and be like hey come possess me so I have become a lot more open to it we did play with a mini Ouija board that ended up cursing my computer yeah it was to us we were on another podcast as guests and

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they gave us this like little tiny mini plastic like toy Ouija board and just play cute what could happen the world's smallest Ouija board if anything it's very cute it says yes actually works not for children under three you're four you're good as soon as you can talk you can totally talk for the evil spirit how do we do this we just have a set intentions I am shaking we're all sh both yeah okay are there any Spirits here with us feel like you're moving it P I'm nervous are ghost penises real they are yeah it looks like a toy and we're like this is I mean not that other Ouija boards some of them do all look like toys they're sold as toys yeah this one like it was basically the size of like a Christmas ornament and we're like what harm can it do like there's nothing real like you could barely you couldn't get the planchet to even move because the

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weight of your finger on this little tiny planet like it just wouldn't work so we're like ah this is nothing and we were on tour at the time and so for our next show which was that even Sabrina put the little plastic Ouija board in the same compartment in her backpack as the computer and the computer just wouldn't turn on anymore just absolutely nothing like even Apple still can't figure out what's wrong with it yes Apple says nothing's wrong with it but it is broken but they cannot figure it out they were like we've never seen anything like this before and then some other like you've taken it to Apple so many times but the creepy thing about it was that right before our show we were like panicked Sabrina's trying to make an appointment to go to Apple like 30 minutes before we're supposed to be on stage soundcheck is already supposed to have happened I think Sabrina jokingly says like oh I should just put this bag of crystals on it and see if it works she puts a bag of crystals just like on top of her computer and 10 seconds later we Ding and the computer starts working

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just for the show just for that show and then we had to start using my computer after that cuz it died again oh my God oh my God lost lease of life with the crystals and then it just died but so I'm open to using a Ouija board and then we recently went to the Lizzie bordon house with Ash and Elena of morbid and Elena and I were like so on like so ready to play with the Ouija board but they recently installed a rule that they are not allowed to play with Ouija boards in that house so I did not get to I am obsessed with morbid they're amazing yeah they're great they're also in Massachusetts so if you guys come to New England we can all go do a little Ghost Hunt maybe in Salem Massachusetts together that be amazing Salem we've got to go to [ __ ] Salem of course we'll do Karen's childhood home and Salem in the same like little trip God we're booking you're gonna regret that because me and Susie will turn up at your house and be like a no I mean I already fully plan on showing up at both of your homes this summer so I think it would only be

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fair Massachusetts has it all if we drive 30 minutes south of Boston we can go Bigfoot hunting too oh yes how was your tour being we're done now we're done Karen got pregnant on tour um well we did 34 shows which was too many for our very first tour it was it was a lot it was awesome but it was so tiring how like how long did you was it like over a series of months did you pack them all in or like two months we packed it my God we basically had a show every other day what was so incredible about the tour was like the travel period between was the time that like you know that's the time that we wouldd complain about where it's like we're so tired but we have to get to the next city and we don't have that much time you have to wake up you're operating on like three hours of sleep but we would be so awake and alert for every single show cuz so many of the theaters that we played were haunted and things would happen people would see spirits on stage we had so many different like issues we brought paranormal equipment with us and

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like a lot of it would go off during the shows yeah yeah and a few venues that we were at the people who were running it were super open to us like leading an investigation at the venue and so there were a few places that we actually got to go with all of the staff into these like abandoned and locked rooms that they'd never opened for like 20 years and bring our equipment in and so that was it was awesome it was just like you know there's a bunch of people all in the same room that are interested in the Paranormal and it really does just trigger I think activity yeah we were basically creating these batteries for for ghost plus we were also having so many of our listeners who are haunted in a space like I feel like it was just that's why I feel like if the four of us did go to a haunted place things would happen yeah ex I want to go to Salem let's do it you should come to Salem I'm serious let's plan it I live on the North Shore of Massachusetts which is where Salem is and so I've been to Salem so many different times I'll be your

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tour guide oh I'd love we G to go and book the flights now and then we'll keep your dates come in the fall oh oh yeah maybe like Autumn 2025 Halloween yes oh my God great yeah we've done a few Halloween there it can get pretty wild when we do go we have to sync it up with when the night Fair happens which I've actually never been to they started it just a couple years ago I think it's like the closest we might get to getting to experience like the dark side of Hogwarts you go into this field and there's all these like creatures and characters dressed up and they will tell your fortunes and do like kind of mystical things around you and people are on stilts and it's it's very like circusy but at night and a huge paranormal Twist on it and it looks awesome a US Halloween is like on my bucket list yes yeah you guys do everything so ra like we're we're so [ __ ] here so good but you kind of I feel

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like because of how haunted the UK is and how much more history there is you kind of are forever living in this like yeah spooky environment yeah maybe yeah if you wander around especially like near Fleet Street and around there and like Chancery Lane if you ever like wander around especially on the weekend when all the lawyers are gone because that's where all their offices are it is super creepy and it's kind of cool because you'll just wonder past an old Temple and then an old Courtyard graveyard and like we actually did a like a patreon London ghost tour with this really really funny guy called Richard who used to um do like the research for most haunted with the vet fielding and like he had all these stories and like monks that like haunted these old places and like that that part of London is like I think my favorite part of London because everywhere you go when the lawyers are gone and the businesses and stuff the pubs tend to not be open as well around there so is literally dead at the weekend nighttime so cool it is so spooky spookiness in

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the air I love that few bodies around you never know what's going to come out of the next Corridor well now I feel like I'm going to become a member to your patreon because I want to watch all of these Ouija board sessions that you do I know to wrap this up can you tell all of our listeners where to find you and when you release new podcast episodes yes so we every Tuesday morning UK time so very early Tuesday morning for you yeah we do a weekly episode and on patreon.com Huns if you're interested in the ghost hunts just type in ghost Huns to wherever you get your podcasts amazing perfect thank you both for joining us this was so fun oh thank you this has been so fun I feel like this was just the beginning of a beautiful very spooky friendship oh 100% I love it I love it do you guys want to do our sign off with us yes yes okay we will see you on the other

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side very spooky