The Grim Reaper Is Here | Death, Afterlife & Paranormal Legends (Ep 241)

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very spooky hello happy freaking October happy October witches spooky [ __ ] how you spooky [ __ ] out there grab your mugwort it's the best time of the year we've been waiting since November 1st of last year and now we can let our freak flags fly even more than we already do every day and every week we haven't stopped we haven't stopped freaking no we haven't this is two girls one ghost and we are your hosts your ghostesses

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whoa that was a weird way to do it that is Corinne hello I am Sabrina and that's Leia and that's Leia I am currently packing up my apartment we are pre-recording a bunch of episodes so that we can go on tour for our Conjuring house Excursion yes but I'm packing up my apartment because we're leaving soon and I rediscovered these bangs so if you're watching on YouTube I didn't cut my hair I'm just wearing my fake bangs these are from my costume when I was what was her name Jenny from girl with the green ribbon that book they do match your hair perfectly they they oddly do and I brought them out on campfire stories a few weeks ago and people were like yuck don't ever do that and so I was like okay I won't but I thought you know before I probably toss them and not bring well maybe I don't know I'm I'm back and forth with like do I just throw them out because I probably never wear them again or like donate them or do I keep them and occasionally wear bangs but don't look good I say keep them they

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don't look bad you just look like they do look bad no you look so young well it doesn't help that I just put my hair in pigtails because it was yeah crazy and unruly and super super humid here okay but more importantly let's move on because you have stories to tell me we do and I have a couple things to tell you too great great you have given me along with other people we have a few listeners who have sent me a grow a Bigfoot which I have packed and I will grow in my new house but before I pack anything else away I was like I need to grow a Bigfoot and I was like this is a genius idea for me to do it right now when we record this episode because we're recording another one tomorrow and I was like by then my Bigfoot might be grown so Sabrina you gifted me this grow a Bigfoot from a stump you just add water so it comes in this stump right here if you're looking on on the good old uh YouTube there's a a Wii stump here and it says you play pop it in water and you leave it in water what's

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the like material of this stump it's like plastic there we go I feel like we're doing a science experiment trouble firebird and cauldron but you will grow from the stump so here's the stump and we will check back tomorrow after 24 hours to see if anything has emerged from the stump your boyfriend the love of your life my boyfriend it's girl boyfriend it's girl Bigfoot so I told you that I haven't been sleeping for like five days and that is true because for the month of October I was like oh I need to choose something really scary for one of the episodes oh no to research because it's the month of October and I feel like that's just time to do it as if we couldn't do it all other 51 weeks of the year but I was like I picked out what I was gonna do because we had been told by other people that it was one of the most haunted the doll objects yes okay so when we were

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talking to em and Christine from that's why we drink M was talking about when they covered I'm like nervous I'll say the name one time and then I won't say it again Peggy the doll and now they call her ptd because so many people experience these like really horrible hauntings and traumatic things after looking at pictures of her after listening to things about her episodes about her research about her reading about her all that anyway the past five days I was like oh I'm gonna start my research on this doll and I'm gonna do it in the month of October ever since I added her like created a Google doc and started to kind of like put some research in and start it I have had the most Vivid and horrific and gruesome dreams like literally I'm gonna give a trigger warning right now because I'm not gonna say all the details of the dreams but like they are the most horrific thing I could ever imagine so trigger warning right now skip forward 30 seconds if you don't want to hear but like one of the nights I had a dream that I was being brutally raped another

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time it was like I lived in a glass house and people were stalking me the whole time what another time my whole family was getting like literally ripped limb from them like there it was like the most horrified like the grossest I'm surprised I didn't just faint in my own dream but so so so bad like and they all started after researching yes yes and it's not like a moment of dream it's like the whole night I can't get out of it if I wake up I go back is that what we're recording tomorrow no I'm not doing it anymore I'm skipping it oh you're ah at least for now I can't do it well okay I maybe I'll do it next year but I was like this is a sign that I sure as hell shouldn't do it when we're about to get on Planes Trains and Automobiles for two months straight I'm like I am not doing this so anyway I haven't been sleeping because I've been having literally the worst nightmares of my life like all night long can I ask a question yeah where is that doll located at this point in time I don't know I

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didn't even get that far because I I really feel like that's something Greg and Dana Newkirk could handle we put a lot of trust to them I think there's a lot of other collectors too which should I Google it right now where I'm nervous I I've been avoiding looking at it why don't we set some intentions real quick okay as you keep doing it you've set them okay well you should be a part of it you can't just like not be setting them oh guess where it is Boston no no I don't know Florida Zach Bagans Museum of course should we go when we're in Vegas oh my God maybe I feel like there's no other time I'd ever be in Vegas so perhaps I kind of feel like we should that's the opportunity to do it if we have time let's I'll I'll do it I'll sign the waiver I'll go look at the things I'll set the intentions I'll bring all my black tourmaline and yeah obsidian with me yes we have to pack all of our crystals yeah so I've been having

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like literally the worst Visions in my mind every night and so I'm not going to research it anymore because I felt like that was a big effute to the universe or to this dollar to whoever might be trying to look out for me and warn me against looking into this because I was like five nights in a row that's too much when did you stop researching and when did you have a nightmare last night too yes okay we need to I'm gonna come visit you in the Asheville plane because I actually just got some mugwort which is supposed to help with [ __ ] traveling and when we were when you were over here in the spring we picked up some crystals when we were important with New Hampshire and some of those were also supposed to help with your like astral self yeah so now you've got just like a power are you putting them in like a bag or something underneath their pillow or no I put them next to my bedside table like on my bedside table has anything else happened no no actually okay so a couple of things so this is October 1st

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this episode comes out on October 1st last October we may be foolishly and daringly decided to cover all possession demonic dark entity type of stories if you remember it did not turn out great for us nope we had some haunting experiences but honestly none of them sound as bad as the nightmares that you've been having so I think it's good that you're not doing you could research this thing and see if you're stronger against it should I try yeah try try okay I'll try and see what happens okay but so this month of October we aren't outwardly we didn't you and I discuss like oh let's do possessions again no I inwardly [Laughter] have you not seen the Excel I think my next topic is like a cursor possession so I'm kind of dabbling again sorry Karen okay so you can see yeah see

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see if you can figure out this doll thing because maybe it will work out for you if you haven't already picked what you're gonna do okay I'll try here's the thing I figured you always If October comes I know to be prepared for you to choose the darkness and really every week it's a toss-up it's like what will what will Sabrina choose it's either something extremely historical with figures like that or it's it's dark well today is a little bit of both it's death okay great lovely lovely lovely well okay before we get into that I want to say one story so okay this past weekend I had an emotional encounter in my personal life and had like a tough day I get a text from Taylor from creeps and crimes and I'm gonna read it to you did Taylor pick up on The Vibes or something yes she's so powerful she's so powerful okay where is my text she said Hi friend um well okay I have reached out to her and asked if she wanted to be my stylist for the tour

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stylist for the tour we're wearing the same thing on stage every night okay well like travel outfits I'm wearing sweats baby so she was like Hi friend are you still interested in making some fit boards and pulling pieces I said yes can we touch base this week and she said no rush at all uh it's been so crazy over here this last month and there's been some weird energy shifts Susan told me but she also told me to check in with my energy sensitive people and I've been hearing your name and I heard it immediately so this is a check-in how are you and I was like oh whoa this filled me with so much love I had a rough morning I'm okay energy has been so off this last week and she was like so off no joke good I'm glad that I texted at the right time your name has been in my ear for like the last week like a humming but this morning it's all I've been able to think about so that is wild but so she was saying so now Taylor and I are having conversations about she is accepting and processing and moving forward trying to

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get her Gates a little bit more open for Spiritual connections after having closed them for a year and she's like damn I forgot how loud my higher self is but it's the time of year where all of us witchy girls wake up and are forced to get uncomfy and so Taylor's on this journey with us Corinne yeah you know who else is Jerry and Sierra of course no one here is listening to ladies and tangents you should because Jerry's getting some downloads Sarah's getting some premonitions everybody's waking up it's the time of the year where we're all tapping in I officially have survived my Saturn return and I am connecting to the other side and to my higher self in so many ways um mugwort is just one of many I'm gonna delay my journey I'll just say I'm delaying it slightly because there is a lot of nervousness from me about being around so many people and energies in different places while on tour and talking about everything that happened at The Conjuring house and all these hauntings so I will be closed off until

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November 4th thank you I feel like you say that but this is almost the perfect time I don't I don't know we'll see we'll see I feel like you and I should be doing like at night you and everyone like Seance in our bedrooms I'm gonna hold hands with you and we're gonna like speak to our higher powers call Upon Our Ancestors I do a lot of my my manifesting already but really it's just sort of like the premonition Clairvoyance side of me that I've probably closed off a few years ago that I'm not ready to reopen until Fair until I'm a little more solidly protected and not just like about to be so sleep deprived and open and vulnerable I think I should balance it out I'll be the vulnerable one of us I'll be this biggie haunted [ __ ] here's the thing Sabrina I I worry about you every day so I put them back but now Taylor's hearing your name too oh my gosh the whole all of the universe

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is coming together to be like let's make sure Sabrina is is good I'm good let's make sure that she's she's fine she's good she's protected and she's tapping into the energies and being around the people that she should be here's my manifestation I hate Banks take them off keep getting in my eyes they're literally fake no I've committed She Gotta Wear it the whole time they're gonna be like a sweat like mat into my forehead by the end of this episode well with all of that being said and these Journeys ahead for all of us in October our favorite month of the year the spookiest month of the year I have a very fascinating episode to share with all of you okay I'm excited for this because there is one thing one thing that unifies the entire human race one thing that each of us has in common no matter what we cannot ignore it nor avoid it nor evade it it

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is terrifying and unpredictable it is death all of us are born and then we are bound to meet the same fate death Decay loss of life and while it unifies us it also perplexes us and plagues us because it's scary we fear it and we always will and always have so while this podcast two girls one ghost is primarily about death in case you forgot where you were two girls one goes hi fantastic um pretty much every episode touches upon it yes we would not have the Paranormal world without death but this episode is all about death itself because in history we have personified death ladies and gentlemen living and dead we present to you death and primarily today the Grim Reaper in my research I found and I really want to title they episode this Memento Mori it is a

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reminder of the inevitability of death oh wow and not to bring up Puss in Boots again but I really do want you to watch Puss in Boots The Last Wish because the whole thing is the Grim Reaper and it's all these messages I feel like you're about to tell me and this whole episode is basically about to be the plot of Puss in Boots already told you about this so you don't it already did so I can just I'll just sit back I'll really relax a second time all right you picture Puss in Boots I'll hold my black little kitty great oh who actually as I was researching this episode I was like Grim would be such a cute name for her oh Grim is so what could that be her middle name because I love soot soot great I do too but when you say sit too many times it like becomes one of those words that's like it loses its meaning and you get confused by it couldn't Grim be I feel like that's the same with every word but I get I get that soot is like yeah you're like am I saying it right

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sit sit because we don't say it much we don't hear it much yeah yeah let me make sure she didn't run away but it's a special word it is a special word it's Unique it's rare like Grim or grimoire I don't know I just think it's so cute it is very cute will you not you just need to get a black cat like you say Leia doesn't want fellow a fella cat but like if you're if you're already fostering up what that took me I was I stumbled through that sentence because I was looking for the word fostering the whole time in my head but if you're already fostering you already have a cat so may as well just commit to the whole thing I know and I love her but it's hard with us going on tour we'll see could someone else Foster her for two months and then yeah take her yeah not to pressure you into another cat but everyone keeps saying that they hope it's a foster fail okay you're so cute so cute and I also I think so we'll get into this more in this episode but death personified I

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think is very much a way for us as Humanity to cope and try to understand what death is and what comes after life and so in this episode I very much learned that death can appear in many different ways the Grim Reaper is now today one of the more traditional appearances of death but I like to imagine that my Grim Reaper would appear as a black kitten ushering me from this side of the world or Earth a realm to the other side so sweet it really could be anything it is kind of odd that we have the imagery of someone cloaked in like a black cloak with the whatever it's called that staff what's it called scythe the scythe and that is who comes to basically bring you into death but the imagery of bringing you into life is not a person or anything like that I feel like at least here in America we're like a bird drops you off in the fabric sack

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and then you're here well birth is not as scary as the unknown of what happens after you die yeah because if we believe in reincarnation here it's at that point probably you as a soul you understand what's about to happen because you signed up for it again exactly but then you forget you forget your eyes throughout your life and you go whoa forget again what is this whoa whoa but yes I'm about to tell you why we have the imagery that we do and so in the course of this episode while researching I saw the term Memento Mori Memento Mori is Latin for memory of death reminder of death great I'm just going to be more of a bit for a moment and remind everyone Corinne those damn bangs girl they are the worst you did it to yourself okay I continued ignore me we have we have editing the video can be on you it's impossible to ignore you literally

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like crossing your eyes and they're in my eyeballs put it back higher yeah but then it's like you can already see where my like normal hairline is I'm trying to make them look real they do look real they do okay okay so I'm gonna be morbid for just a moment and remind everyone who's listening hi hello I hope your life is going right death is upon us oh each second we approach closer to death and went the month of October stretching its spookiness into our bones so too is death we are closer to it this month than any other month because we are closer to the other side but you're alive today baby baby and you chose to listen to this podcast in your living moments so thank you shout out to you and to all the haunted dolls out there listening to two girls one ghost please don't give people nightmares thank you yeah thank you death lurks behind every corner we are living and

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yet at the same time we are dying laughs that is weird that the second that we are born we are actively dying it's a miracle every time we take a vitamin every time we take a bite of food every time we walk outside every time we wake up in the morning that we're alive yeah so much could kill you at any moment yeah we're constantly trying to survive whether we're aware of it or not which is why death is so scary is because at least with birth and with coming into the world we have science and understanding of how that happens mommies and daddies when they love each other give each other a hug and poof you're born a pelican drops you off can I like this version dork oh but I like a pelican it's a it's whatever you want you know like it'll take it easier to chickadee will come and a whole a gaggle of chickadees a

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gaggle of chickadees a hundred chickadees dropped you off Sabrina I'm murdered I believe a murder of crows is the ones who dropped me off makes a lot of sense I feel like I look very crow like right now I like my hair is black darker I'm wearing black sweatshirt so this episode is going to be filled with Memento Mori it's little reminders of death stories Legends and death so I'm going to begin with a story or a Mori I like calling it a Mori it is called three living three dead it is a story that has been told through various cultures various regions in the world and in various languages it dates back to at least the 13th century it's a medieval tale written mostly in poetry and Illustrated in artistic visitors around the world so as the story goes there were three men of Roy decree they set out into the woods they adorned the emblems of their family names and wielded swords and weapons of which they were prepared nay hungry to

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use they were on a hunt boar deer whatever creature they were to see they sought to kill it was a tradition a festivity or an activity to pass the time but actually it was much more than that because these men were of a social status beyond the realm of many possibilities they were as close to God as any living being could be but they still desired a reminder of their power their Humanity they could exert and thrive in the feeling of their mightiness by taking the life of something beneath them animals so wild so violent that they were never to Be Tamed but these three men they had the tools they had the power to dominate so the three men continued into the woods their eyes peeled for the animals between the trees when suddenly and this is a quote from one of the poems shooken out of a Shaw which means darting out of a wood came

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three terrifying images before them the three men saw wisps of something unearthly startled eyes alert Hearts racing what was that they asked then again movement and they realized this is no animal no and in fact there's more than one there were three now they could see them more clearly walking towards them cracking with each step clunky awkwardly upon foot were three men who at first glance appeared to be wearing something very similar to The Three Men and for a moment it was as if they were peering into the reflective image Flashback by a mirrored surface but these three things that were approaching were different in one very very disturbing way they wore no skin they were absent of fat muscles tendons they were made only of bone skeletons three of them worms slithered

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between vertebrae dirt clung to the white skeletal remains Earthly smells permeated off of them these three men were stunned now hardly able to process what was before them three men no six men three living three dead I actually like that they're skeletons I feel like seeing a skeleton walking is almost less shocking to me than seeing just as a skinned person you know just all the muscles and tendons there oh well for sure yeah that that because that would be like preferred what what is this this feels like a violent Act of like yeah something gross that would be a really good cryptic just like a skinned it we just did it the boo hag oh yeah you're right red and fleshy it's just a skinless skinless creature these three living men were now facing three dead corpses and

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they had the sinking feeling that they were looking at their own remains and it varies in different stories some say that they are looking at themselves others say they are looking at ancestors but they're terrified and they look at the corpses and ask what they want is this something evil something from the depths of hell no the three dead stated that they were not demons but that they were there to criticize their living errors for neglecting their memory and not saying masses for their souls they said while I was man upon Earth Pleasures were mine but now they suffer for it so basically in reaping in Pleasures during living they suffer in the afterlife they impart one final message to the living men you should always be mindful of us make your memory be me the three corpses left and the three living were petrified they knew in that moment that they had just had a brush with death that death was disappointed in the living and imparting

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a warning or a piece of advice to be wary of your Living Treasures and desires because they are distractions from what matters and that those who have passed have lived to teach us lessons if we do not heed them we are misusing our own breath basically death arrived to show and warn these three kings to be better or death will come sooner and that they should fear death and honor those who have died before them it is one of the very first times that death was personified in story in an art wow it came in the form of a corpse in the form we associate with what we become after death okay so it's not necessarily saying like oh you have to either choose to suffer in life to live a good afterlife or be greedy in your life and then deal with it in your afterlife it's not really about equilibrium it's just about finding purpose Beyond or maybe challenging what could be presented as the greed exhibited by these Kings yeah and I

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think there's different interpretations I just sent you a picture of one of the original okay um poems and it can in their drawings that were with them I think it's a combination of like set aside your selfish living desires that there is so much more to it than yeah they are being preoccupied with and also kind of a behave like be good or death will come sooner and death will not be good to you yeah you were given the opportunity to live as a human being to experience this life but perhaps you're wasting away your opportunity with the choices that you're making this wasn't what your soul had signed up for but it's what you're how you're acting yeah makes me a little scared I feel like I'm not really scared of death I'm scared of leaving other people yeah before I think they're ready for me to go yeah I agree with that

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that's what I'm scared of and this is like this episode's not giving me a little pit in my stomach I'm like my God I better make sure all my choices are aligned well or else it might not be an accident might not get me but the Grim Reaper might but the Grim Reaper is not a bad thing I think the Grim Reaper and we can digest and theorize on this for as long as we want but like I think the Grim Reaper is almost like a Godly being it is something someone waiting for you on the other side to Usher you into the Afterlife it's almost like to me it feels like a guide if you've seen the good play place right I imagine it's like it's Ted what's his name Ted Danson Ted I don't remember but I know yeah the the main guy I feel like that's wrong so hold on let's see oh I'm right Ted Danson hell yeah Sabrina dancing it's like that makes sense arriving at his desk but he just appears a bit terrifying right because we're making the assumption that the Grim Reaper is this dark evil entity because we

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associate it with our fear of death but what if it is just a good kind being that comes to help you be less confused and bring you to where you're supposed to go so that you don't end up haunting Earth for eternity in this confused state so maybe it's actually one of the best encounters you could possibly have with the Paranormal yeah I mean imagine dying and no one being there it's just you in a void like that's that's more terrifying so and also keep in mind we created the imagery of the Grim Reaper maybe perhaps we had experienced it and like then put it into text or what not but I do very much believe and I feel like we've talked about this a lot I believe there's an element of our afterlives appearing in the way that we believed in it to be in our living lives like we have the power to create it almost it exists but we visualize it and conceptualize it and then that's how it exists for us and we've heard near-death

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experiences like that I don't know it's very confusing but I don't I think the Grim Reaper has a bad rep is basically what I'm saying I agree I agree and you've previously expressed your desire when you pass away to be able to haunt for a while and then potentially being you know on some sort of position where you're almost like the board of directors or something to help with the hauntings to help with like the secrets of the universe to just kind of manage whatever needs to be managed I would like here I'm pitching it now I would like to raise my hand and volunteer to be V or a grim reaper I feel like I'd be really good at helping people I have a theory that I was gonna get into later but why not let's do it right now I believe there's a part of me that believes the Grim Reaper is actually ourselves spooky everyone has their own Grim Reaper and it is your own soul a virgin well that oh my gosh now my brain is in a million

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pieces because now I'm thinking about like what even is our existence and our Consciousness like when we live a life are we is it a fractured piece of us that's living this life and could we be in multiple places at once and live multiple lives all at one time but then to that what is time because if it's not linear we could be existing in multiple different we like we are constantly existing like we're a ripple yeah because this is this would suggest that we're not oh God my mind is breaking it's like we couldn't be entirely whole we would have to be different we'd have to be broken up into different pieces unless there was something with a ripple of time where we could be whole but in the same spot at multiple times but then if we are broken up or even if that is the case could we all just be one Collective Consciousness splintered off and experiencing life in many different ways but we're all one being oh we are I fully believe we're one Collective Consciousness fully believe it I think the universe is one there's the belief of the universal Consciousness like I

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believe and that's why I believe in like why soulmates are such a powerful thing is because there are certain other Souls that make your soul feel more whole because together you're so much more connected to the universal Consciousness oh so we could go on and on and on about theorizing about death and this is why clearly we have a fear of it because we don't know but I very much believe to my desire to be a grim reaper like you or on the board of grimming and reaping grimming and reaping grimming and reaping I love this the board of grimming and reaping classes in session classes and session we are introducing a new CFO today her name is Corrine and we've chosen her to manage our finances because excuse me what about me well I'm the one that's bad at math so it's more funny because it's it doesn't make any sense that I manage the finances but I I get to I manage the finances which means

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it's all fully based on girl math and that's it girl math girl math girl math and girl dinner girl math yeah you're the you can be the head of dinner and everything else I want marketing I want to do PR perfect PR which is what do you guys want because there's enough for everyone here's the thing I feel like I'm already doing my job because this episode is like reframing the the public Persona and depiction of death your marketing and PR yeah and you're the you're the face you're the spokesperson you're the face of grimming and reaping and I teach people how to gram and reap yeah perfect okay love it love it I give you unlimited resources and finances for to complete your job you're welcome and I know this like we're kind of joking and having fun with this but I truly mean it like I think I would excel in that job so well so I almost feel like I was born to die and I'm not saying like hey let's die really quickly but I'm ready this episode is your

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resume so when you pass over to say Play episode 200 my cover letter there was one ghost okay so since the story of three living three dead and even before that we have had so many different appearances and forms of death it has changed shape forms visuals tones it can appear peacefully it can appear to warn it can appear terrifyingly but it appears and the personification personification of death has been around for centuries and has been a way for the human race to come to terms with death befriend it and if you can put a face to it or a visual a shape to it it's less terrifying maybe maybe different cultures and countries have different names for the visual representation of death there are Greek gods associated with death they're Saints more feminine representations more masculine some simply skeletal others cloaked hidden by Shadow but they all serve a similar purpose to force the living to face our mortality and then to Usher us into the Afterlife so this is a

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fun word so I decided to like just find a way to say it these beings are generally categorized as psychopomps psycho pumps psycho pumps pumps what does that mean what's the breakdown so I don't know the like I didn't do the like language breakdown but it's creature Spirits Angels demon deities who escort newly deceased Souls from Earth into the Afterlife so there's I think psychopomps is like the overarching category and then there's a bunch of things that fall into it Grim Reaper being one of them I like it I'm aspiring to be one yeah I'm gonna put this on my like manifestation mood board just a variety of death yeah I'm gonna just put like age 98 to make sure that I don't die before then and then put just all pictures of all of these creatures let me become this let me evolve well I'm gonna tell you about a few of them and then we'll get more into like the nitty-gritty of the Grim Reaper okay so Karen in Greek mythology is not a Karen in today's terms necessarily it's very

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different it's a Greek god who helped Souls cross over the rivers of the afterlife oh man Valkyries was a Nordic goddess who flew over Battlefield and chose which soldiers would live and die and so they would swoop down their many Valkyries um they would swoop down and basically pick the souls who would die and they'd take them to Valhalla where they would wait for the epic battle of Ragnarok which is interesting like this one they would like pick people to die and then bring them to another battle but this was specifically about battles Mercury was a Roman creature who guided souls to avernus a crater in Italy that was believed to be the entrance to the underworld then there's the Banshee which did you do an episode on the banshee that sounds familiar I already talked about it yeah we've talked about it so many times it might have just been like a you know what it could have been it could have been like when we did like a Friday the 13th episode or like one of those specials where we're just like a quick hit like here's a paragraph on on something because I feel like we've never done a deep dive but I definitely

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remember about yeah I remember talking about banshees quite a bit so they're in Irish mythology a female Spirit who according to Legend should you hear her haunting whales you should expect death to visit soon this is my favorite pesta pasta she is a Scandinavian psycho pump Scandinavian psychopomp it literally sounds like I feel like you're describing a dominatrix doesn't it like I'm a Scandinavian psycho bomb she kind of is a dominatrix if you're into this kind of thing I feel like instead of like Vanderpump Rules we should do psychopomp rules and it's like all the creatures of death the drama forget Bigfoot the musical this is gonna be our debut onto onto the theaters well can I I want psycho pumps I call playing pesta because pesta okay great I'm gonna send you a picture of pesta as well this is pesta this is beautiful I love her she

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you can be her that's fine thank you pesta is a haggardly old woman who carries a broom or a rake and here's the thing I want to do a whole episode on pasta but this is the most important thing to know about pasta if she is seen in your home carrying a rake it is an omen that someone in the house will soon die but if pesta is seen with a broom it is an omen that everyone in the house is doomed to die oh are you gonna have a musical number if we do a Broadway as pesto are you gonna give her one oh yes and and people and okay this is the background dancers are gonna have brooms and rakes and I'll get to like certain points and I'll like raise my hand out and someone will throw me a broom or a rake and I'll be like ah rake just like only one soul today one one for me I love this and I think that we should take inspiration from that Old show stomp which I don't know if it's

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still happening where they only make music from objects and there's no actual music happening it's all from the brooms and from the from the rakes and from everything else that's around you that's your whole entire number I love it her boobs also hang low to the ground and they sweep the floor and they are also a part of the soundtrack oh and everyone wears invisibility cloak so it looks like they're all just moving around like all the brooms are just by themselves my job I'm giving my job myself a job and I don't know the characters yet but I think I'm committed to being in the orchestra pit because while it's going to be stomped for your number which will be very impactful I think the rest of the musical might have some music but I want the rule of my Orchestra pit is that there is no firm music there's no score it is all just based on whatever interpretive dance I choose to do at the time so we never know when the music will start in the show or how it will be your version of orchestrating is

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interpretive dance and your Orchestra has to read they have to match the Vibes I will say always be alert no breaks I'm an excellent interpretive dancer oh okay well then you why don't we just put you when you're not in the scene you can do that okay what if it's a one-man show oh man the broom's in the background okay why don't we put you in the show and I'll play you and then you play this woman it's all about my journey to wanting to become a grim reaper and they're all like we don't want you here's the lesson I'm learning not my own it's so sad the lesson I've learned is I want all of these creatures to love me and you know what actually this is really sad you know what I've learned I just want to be loved so bad you are and well I want love I want love from all these creatures and they're trying to tell me you need to love yourself first

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you want Universal unconditional love yeah yeah I just want to be held a man that's the deep meaning of the show they'll hold you in death but in life you have to learn to hold yourself deep [ __ ] [ __ ] all right let's get dark again okay the Grim Reaper here we are the Grim Reaper is one of the most common mythological and personifications of death and in the United States specifically it is kind of primarily what we associate with the visual and imagery of death it is endured time in the way that living cannot but where did the Grim Reaper come from and how did the reaper come to reap so actually I'm really glad we talked about a musical because when I was you know looking into the Grim Reaper I was very much like I feel like this was someone like a costume designer or like storyboarding and creating death because the Grim Reaper has a costume it is often cloaked in darkness adorning a hooded black robe carrying a scythe to

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reap the human Souls I sent you a picture we'll insert it into okay so this is revealed at the end of act one in the musical number reap gonna reap Reaper gonna read yeah it's a terrifying thing Visual and it's like many scary stories of entities in the night it is darker than dark facial features are unclear and you can feel that it is looking at you and traditionally its presence is often a warning an impending doom an omen of your own death and this is the most duh sentence of the entire episode but we have been dealing with death since the dawn of time there are many death practices that have come and gone there have been beliefs in good deaths which we talked about a lot with National Park after dark in the episode when they were on our show there were death rituals reading rights bearing the dead cremating the dead burning the Dead the list goes on and I it you know it changes based on your beliefs your practices where you were born where you live Etc but in the 14th

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century death took on a very terrifying toll literally we've spoken about this in many episodes during the 14th century Europe was dealing with the world's worst pandemic the plague the Black Death one third of Europe's entire population died due to the plague jeez day after day people were falling ill succumbing to death their bodies piled up in the streets cemeteries were overflowing bodies had to be moved due to overcrowding and with so Much Death came a lot of pain a lot of confusion and it was only natural for people to want to create some type of image to portray death and it was during this time that a lot of famous artists started incorporating death into their artwork and I was trying to look up like where does the tradition of wearing black come from yeah to funerals and I read a lot of interesting things so since early Roman Empire people would

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change out of their white topaz and into a black toga to mourn and show respect for the dead but then I was looking and there's some exceptions in the Medieval Era okay well this is not an exception but in the Medieval Era widows would wear black to symbolize their morning but then in the 1500s a lot of I think it was like French and Spanish Queens would wear white in their deepest morning period so I'm not totally clear where it comes from or if there's like a specific Superstition interesting but I feel like I read this somewhere a really long time ago that black almost symbolizes death and like white has white in color has more Vitality so it's disrespectful to wear colors of Vitality when mourning whereas black is like you're associating and respecting the one who passed yeah well okay so wait what was that woman's name that you you showed us the picture of that you'll be playing in my lady pesta yeah pasta did the depiction of her did that come before the Grim what we know the Grim Reaper to be or was that I think so I

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think so because she shows her face yeah but she's still wearing black and she's very similar but she does her sorry this is probably not an appropriate comment to make when we're talking about death but now that I'm looking at the picture of her again her expression kind of looks like you know when you see a dog that's going to the bathroom and it looks over at you and you're like the stranger and it's looking at you looking at it take a poop and it's just kind of like shocked and startled that you're there and then you lost a really long time yeah that's what she's giving me but yeah it is interesting how it's whether it was whether pesta if I say her name right yeah whether pesto was an influence or not in the way that we've made the Grim Reaper to be it is interesting that it seems to always have been or at least for a long long time a black cloak yeah yeah I mean I think like we associate death with Darkness and I I feel like the one thing we're also afraid of is night time so like it's like an unknown a something that's

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lurking in the dark that you can't really see so it makes sense for it to be cloaked in a black robe true but then also during the plague a lot of religious men would Adorn their black robes and hold burial proceedings in the night so they would bury masses of the deceased people at one time so if you looked out your window late at night you would see these religious people with their black robes the hoods over and doing these proceedings so I think that also became Associated very much with death and therefore death was given a wardrobe black hooded robes something that could Shield its face and swallow up whatever the interior body was making it mysterious ominous an amorphous which is I would say a description of death it was given physicality the skeleton because when one dies they decay in all of their in and All That Remains are the bones while everything else dies and decomposes the skeleton is the one part

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that remains and then the scythe and this is interesting because during this time the Scythe was a new tool in the corn harvesting world or like harvesting generally and it became like super popular because before that time they were using sickles and sickles just took a lot more time to harvest crops whereas the Scythe you just do like One Sweep and they like Chop Chop right it became trendy and everyone was getting their hands on their scythe and Farmers basically could hire less laborers but here's what's interesting so sites were really long so in order to operate them you had to be like a tall muscular it was very masculine tool and they were called mowers people who used scythes and the people who use sickles were actually called Reapers so someone didn't fact check correctly when costuming the Grim Reaper yeah but to be fair Grim mower doesn't really hurt the Grim mower the mowers be mowing that feels like a

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dad's Halloween costume right just like late like they're they have to bring their kids around trick-or-treating and they grab their like John Deere ride-on mower and attach a little wagon on the back and just like drive it around the neighborhood so they don't actually have to walk their kids around put on some black on the Grim mower okay I'm in costume everybody leave me alone yeah but that is basically the how the Grim Reaper got its appearance he was given his tool to harvest human souls and pluck them from Earth the same way the Scythe plucked crops from fertile ground it was now used to pluck Souls from Life the Grim Reaper began to appear in all facets of life and was documented documented in literature and in art and the title Grim Reaper first appeared actually pretty it's kind of modern 1847 in the tombs of Christian devotion a it the book called The Circle of human life Grim that word itself means Fierce cruel

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Savage harsh so the name itself is more modern but the Grim Reaper has found a way off the page out of the canvas he she it they whatever it may be appears in Waking Life many have seen the Grim Reaper whether it be in the Dreamscape or while awake it is generally agreed that witnessing the Grim Reaper is a bad Omen a warning seeing the Grim Reaper in your dreams could mean you are stuck wasting your life or dealing with a hardship it could mean death is approaching your dying day is upon you and if you're interested in like reading about like dream analysis there is a website that I was reading and there's one thing about it's like if you dream about kissing the Grim Reaper it means you are fearless and you don't give a damn [Laughter] interesting yeah did you dream about kissing the Grim Reaper I haven't because not yet it's not not yet not yet but I found this show called psychic

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kids and I think this episode was three years ago I think it's an a e show sounds up my alley a young girl nine years old her name was Kaylee went on to the show to document her experiences since birth Kaylee had been seeing spirits and then she started to feel a bad energy and started having dreams of a six foot man in a black cloak with a disguised face she knew that when he came to her in his dream in her dreams that it was a warning that someone was going to die she was terrified like she she felt very very drained when this creature would appear but despite her fear she named him the caretaker because she knew that what he was going to do was take souls to heaven and then there's a video I watched on YouTube and she like very seriously like just looks at the camera like deadpan the caretaker is going to take the soul to heaven or let her rot in the ground that's

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where hell is thank you for that child so basically we love the message we love the creepy kid message so basically in Cali's understanding the Grim Reaper or the caretaker as she calls it appears to Usher a soul who is deserving of moving on to the afterlife and guide them or if you are not if you are going to hell it will be there when you die and kind of like haha watch you rot in the ground um laugh at you okay I love that about the Grim I love that's a good reaping right there I approve it just makes me so curious about the afterlife too like if there is a distinction between a soul getting to move on and not how that's like what happens to the soul is it just like completely obliterated or is it left behind or does it experience something horrible for a time-bound amount of time it's like okay for the next hundred

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years you just live in this Darkness so that the next life maybe you can live it a little bit differently the way that you were intended to it's a really good question ah God what is life what is death we do not know so Cali once had a dream of the caretaker but this time he was with her so in Her Dream he she saw the caretaker with her aunt and in like very Death Eater fashion she saw the caretaker sucking life out of her aunt and she herself felt like she was dying like little Kelly was experiencing it at the end of the dream she saw the caretaker and the spirit of her aunt like pass over her in like a shadowy form and my gosh she woke up and told her mom this and three days later her aunt died okay here's here's something real quick you know how previously we had a listener tell us that they had a demon attached to it attached to them and then it would eat all negative emotion I wonder if the Grim Reaper what you see it sucking away

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from someone isn't necessarily their life but perhaps it's their fear of death so that when they do cross over it's less scary and it's easier for them that's interesting because so many people say like in people's final moments there's a peacefulness that washes over them yeah I also Imagine The Soul leaving the body leaves the body in peace in a weird way like like it's like a final like goodbye to your body thank you for the gift you gave me for all these years I now must leave you behind yeah so what did Kylie they say so Cali her aunt dies three days after this dream and this is really sad and interesting because Cali almost when we've heard this a lot about what people who have like psychic abilities that they feel very drained after using their abilities so Cali after having dreams like this feels intense side effects like to the point where nine years old she has this experience she's in bed bedridden and Ill for three days

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almost like a part of her did die and she needed to recover yeah it does make me wonder if that happened because Cali was so in tune that it was very draining to experience that and to be around that sort of energy or what if her and her grandmother were some sort of pair of traveling souls and when you're in a traveling Soul situation that there is part of you that's a little bit tethered and so when someone else passes on or goes through something it's kind of like almost like the twin intuition where like you feel it that's interesting it does physically affect you a little bit yeah I don't know I get I could see that being the case but I do think Cali experiences it every time she sees the caretaker so it does feel like it's just drains energy from her yeah um okay Mark travinsky was a renowned and I had never heard this word before forteon f-o-r-t-e-a-n it means relating to or denoting paranormal phenomena so like basically a fancy word for paranormal enthusiasts or investigator or parasite

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should we start calling ourselves Fortune I mean basically someone goes what do you do for your job oh I'm a fortune yeah if you if you know you know sort of thing we are technically because we are denoting paranormal phenomena that's our job yeah I'm gonna say that I feel like it will it may be less follow-up than saying I tell ghost stories I just spit everywhere because sometimes it's like it's I feel like if you say 14 a lot of people will just be like okay because they're they just don't know maybe they feel like embarrassed they don't know what it is yeah I hope I'm using that word correctly like I don't know if it's like uh well actually yeah I read the sentence on on a page it was Mark travinsky was a renowned Fortune so oh we are renowned 14th yes we are travinsky has since passed away but he spent many years documenting paranormal encounters and in one of his book he spoke with many people who had witnessed and encountered the Grim Reaper this is like one little quote from a nurse who

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worked in a hospital she said I was running down the hall to my patients room so I could relieve the nurse in charge I ran past this room across from the central floor nurses station and had run past five rooms before it registered what I saw I did not believe it I went back down the hall and stopped at the room and glanced into it on the bed was a little gray-haired lady dressed in lace propped up with pillows beside the bed stood This Tall figure dressed in a monk's robe with its head covered it looked up at me when I appeared in the door his face was a skull with tiny red fires For Eyes his hands skeletal were patiently folded over each other inside the dark sleeves my impression was that he was just patiently waiting for this woman to pass away see the depiction with like the glowing eyes and everything it makes it look so scary it does you know it does and it's one thing for us to be like oh maybe the images that we see in art is

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because that's what someone decided it would look like but it's another thing when when other people do see it like if it was drawn from people's experiences that that's what you see it is kind of a scary thing that that is what is I guess the same could be said for like Angels the way angels are depicted and how they're supposed to look they're supposed to be these well I don't I don't know how nice they're always supposed to be I think there's some terrifying stories associated with them but very yeah it is a they all seem to be very spooky in their imagery whether they're doing good or bad so there's an episode of The Twilight Zone it is my favorite episode um it's when I like the old Twilight zones and in it you are basically in the POV of this like you don't see any faces the whole time and the woman her face is bandaged but basically the whole idea is like when they unwrap her bandages and her face is beautiful and it's called Eye of the Beholder but everyone else is like Pig faces and they're talking about how hideous she is the whole time so I'm like what if the grim reapers and like

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the Angels who are all terrifying and scary actually think we are hideous we could be I mean we're like gross little meat sacks just floating on this rock yeah yeah let's do it we are kind of weird we have an organ as the outside of us and it grows [ __ ] out of it yeah humans are pretty nasty but we think we're we think we're beautiful we think we're the [ __ ] and you know who else thinks we're beautiful our pets our pets think we're beautiful my little angel right here to wrap up I have a couple sentences so these are all stories of the Grim Reaper and personifications of death we have countless stories from our listeners countless stories from all over the world of people who have witnessed the Grim Reaper for themselves it is a message that you will not be in death alone you will have someone or something to Usher you into the next life to show you the way and this is where I was going to talk about my theory of what if it's actually us our future Spirits

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coming to guide us into the Afterlife we already did the whole whoa but I will end with one sentence and this is a line from our musical Reaper be reaping and he's famous for this line he she whoever whoever the reaper is we're gonna have many Reapers and there's gonna be a song and it's gonna be the final number and it is going to be called as I am so you too will be as I am so you too will be dead beautiful Jesus okay and then the Crowd Goes Wild Standing Ovation pesta appears with a broom and everyone freaks out because a broom means everyone in the house everyone to die he's dead enter act two the lights go down it all comes up and we pretend everyone's dead how confusing and disorienting would that be if everyone actually thought they would die dang Grim Reaper Reaper be repent Reaper be

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reaping I'm not against the reaper me neither I feel like we were taught when we were children that that should be a fearful thing in a fearful sight but it also helps that we have a paranormal podcast where we read countless stories that people have with encounters with all types of paranormal where I think it definitely has not desensitized me to the Paranormal but I think I just have a better understanding of it where I have a lot less fear surrounding it and so I feel like I'm walking away with zero fear of the Grim Reaper I mean and we talk about this anytime like my grandmother who has passed away could show up at the end of my bed and I would be startled I would be scared because I wasn't expecting it she's not of Flesh and Bone but it doesn't mean she has ill intention it's just my human pea-sized brain is spooked and we are operating on fight or flight survival and that is something that logically should not happen so our amygdala goes

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something I don't understand yeah the amygdala is a role as a character in our musical too whoa oh well every time something kind of unbelievable happens it just comes into Stage and goes oh well the amygdala is like the comedic relief character I love it I love this so much oh I can't wait for all of our musicals if only we could sing well we can I feel like I'd be really good like I have the musical voice like the not so serious yeah I drink I kill Elite one person today I am creeping down your street will I bring a broom or a rake into your home really I

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think we're just rewriting the musical Wicked because the kind of party has a lot of the same themes a lot of the same self-discovery a lot of the same messages a lot of the same Evil versus good yeah but ours will be great it will be we are we are so truly theater kids at heart theater Majors for life baby I loved High School Musical I feel like I should watch High School Musical the musical because people keep posting clips from that on Tick Tock and I'm like would I like this too isn't High School Musical already a musical there's High School Musical as a musical and then there's High School Musical the musical which is a TV show oh I think there's just a lot a music there's a lot going on got it but there's if people can make High School Musical a musical and High School Musical the musical then I think we can make Reaper beat rape pen okay reaping the musical yeah we'll just we'll just cast

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to the same actors success great lovely thank you perfect okay I have an email called I'm at a Reaper question mark oh hey ghostesses my name is Cher and to get this out of the way I've listened for a year or two binge episodes daily until your Ghosts come for me and I need to take a break and I'm currently sucking people into the tgog triangle love it anyway I recently remembered this experience from a couple years ago while listening to your podcast so naturally I thought that I should email you about it this story is about the time I potentially met a Reaper on the astral plane and almost died in my sleep I honestly have repressed the ever loving heck out of this memory because for months after this experience I was terrified to even leave my apartment for fear that I would get into some accident and die so this is a long one Final Destination type of stuff yeah so for context I have Asheville projected in my sleep before quite a few times and those are just the ones that I know about and I've had plenty of pretty vivid dreams

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but I have never had a dream as Vivid and real as this one it was back at the beginning of 2020 and I think it was just before the pandemic hit and the shutdown started in my state so everything was fine everything was normal but then I fell asleep I was in this strange Maze of a house with no roof that somewhat resembled my childhood home but it felt very familiar in a way beyond that as though I'd been there several times before to make it easier to visualize it kind of reminded me of the house sequence and Insidious when the dad enters the further to find his son that kind of blue fogginess the moment I was aware of myself in the dream I was struck with this crippling sensation of fear there were people in this house with me and being the empath even in my sleep I could feel their fear as well which only Amplified my own fun stuff anyway these people were fleeing and trying to hide from something lurking inside with us it was only when I saw someone get caught that I realized what was happening oh gosh this one

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person had been caught by this entity which I can only describe as a very gaunt man and by cot I mean a simple hand on the shoulder but as I would soon find out one touch was all it took one touch all it takes falling in love with me possibilities Grim Reaper Grim reaping we're running some light-heartedness to what is clearly going to be a terrifying encounter okay I watched as this person slowly crumpled to the floor and as they laid down this ball of blue light Rose from their body imagine a Wisp from the Disney Brave movie movie references are all I have for comparison so don't judge me you too Karen yeah and this entity raised their hand with the blue light and it disappeared into the air I'm not sure how I knew this but that blue light was the person's soul I kind of froze as one does because what did I just witness and

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this entity had turned its attention to me its appearance switched from the gaunt man to a younger Fuller one that was very low-key attractive with facial hair again don't judge me oh I hate that it like morphed based on her presence although was Shea about to kiss the Grim Reaper well that's what he wants if he's gonna suck your soul he wants to kiss you yeah it started walking towards me as I backed away and then it spoke you don't need to be afraid it won't hurt I'm only here to help you cross yeah [ __ ] that I'm out I started to run at which point I saw two more human-esque entities touching some of the other people trapped here and raising their souls from their bodies the one that had spoken to me was pulling some Michael Myers [ __ ] and must have had some Heelys on because I was running for my life and here it was right behind me as if it as if I was crawling instead so here's what really freaked me out the entity's form changed again this time to look like my

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mother oh God this is like the movie it follows for more context I have a very close relationship with my mom she's a very spiritual and light person and we're bonded Souls we've been told that I'm my mom's quote teddy bear she takes me with her in every life she lives which is kind of sweet since my nickname to the family is bear that's so cute she's one of the people my sister and I have gotten hooked on your podcast so if this makes it on there and she hears this hi Mom the entity changes and now its voice is my mother's too still chatting at me to just relax it'll be over soon just stay still ew it's like so disturbing yes then it happens I feel this Electric Touch on my shoulder and I see its hand there I managed to break free and I Stumble away but my vision is getting blurry and it's fading in and out another Electric Touch more stumbling less Vision finally another Electric Touch and I collapsed to the

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ground in a dizzy weak Heap I was begging it to stop at this point asking why it was doing this to us what it gains from this this is the part that sends the chill up and down my spine it told me that I didn't need to hold on anymore that it was the bridge keeper of sorts and it helped Souls like me cross to the other side it hushed me and told me it would be okay soon as I faded out of Consciousness on the ground I could feel my soul lifting from my body and it felt so much lighter just as I was about to give in beep beep beep my morning alarm goes off I barely wake up with it oh despite my phone being directly next to my head and on full volume I can't really describe the way I felt after I'd woken up but the closest thing I can get is that it felt very heavy like my body was dragging my soul back down kind of like I hadn't fully woken up out of my dream state and it wasn't waking up straight into sleep paralysis thank God that's happened before to me as well

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because I could move and I could sit up if I'm being honest the rest of that whole day was a haze I remember I went to work as if everything was normal but all I could think about was that feeling of fading away and how my alarm probably saved my life that morning I was paranoid for a very long time after for this experience because after I felt myself dying in my sleep I was terrified to die I thought anything and everything could kill me at any moment and that it would it would kill me to make up for failing to end me in my sleep so yeah that's the story of the time that I'm 90 sure I died in my sleep and I met a Reaper thanks for reading so I have a lot of questions because well now I'm like maybe I shouldn't you know continue my journey of Astral traveling but um in in to say something not so nice and probably a negative approach in the movie Insidious part of their soul gets stuck on the astral plane perhaps some of shares did too yeah I like to think

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that they just took a while for it to like fully get back in to her body but I don't know sometimes I think part of my actual soul I mean I struggle severe like with severe exhaustion I've been tired my whole life but now that I've been exploring the Paranormal more I'm like well what if back all the way back to age four when I started having those reoccurring nightmares and was astral traveling and seeing my sister get nearly possessed What If part of my soul got stuck on the astral plane and that is why I'm so tired I mean it could be oh I also saw a video somewhere that someone was saying that they this woman was having a really hard time with exhaustion and she felt like she was sleeping every night and she was like I'm dreaming I'm sleeping I don't understand and she went through a sleep study and they found that she actually wasn't sleeping she was hallucinating every night so she was so tired because she was barely sleeping and she thought she was dreaming but really she was just having hallucinations while laying down that's terrifying my aura ring though I

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have the aura ring and it tells me that I have to tell you you're asleep yeah weird I don't know but I I hope you never experience anything like this this kind of uh this almost makes me think of in the movie Soul you know how there's that group of people that are kind of like meditating and they are in the astral plane and they're helping all the souls that have like pieces of them chipped off and kind of like collecting them on their ship and bringing them back or forward or or whatever helping them move on and be a little bit less lost and it does make me wonder if Cher accidentally found here's what I like to think I like to think that these grim reapers are in this field of of people of corn pieces of them have been yeah chipped off and I I like to feel that it's not that they die when they're being touched but perhaps that part of their soul that's been like trapped and tethered and depressed and stuck is being released yeah to death yeah but

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it's not like their whole self it's not their whole person it's just like a traumatic peace that has been splintered off you know yeah that's I know that that's probably not what's happening but that's what I want to believe you want to believe and I share found Cher found herself there so I am curious share about her experience with [ __ ] traveling because it sounds like this is not the first time it's happened many times like is there a pattern is it something that she does willingly is it something that she has learned how to find a way out of before death comes and like takes her soul teach us yeah tell us show us the way yeah well so that was horrifying but sure did send us a picture to redeem redeem a [ __ ] from Haunting my nightmares for tonight um and that is a picture of her cat named Salem Houdini a black cat

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so we do take pet tax along with all of the emails so feel free to show us your pet or your cousin's pet or a pet you saw on the sidewalk during your walk if you like to take pictures of like animals and windows send that to us send that send that yeah you're hawk in the sky and maybe pixelated just literally anything maybe you'll find if you zoom into the window there's an image of the Grim Reaper instead oh my God what if you're like trying to take a picture of a murder of crows in the yard and it's from far away and you zoom in and one of the crows is just looking at you like that picture of uh pesta or whatever her name is pesta yeah pasta just eyeballs so scary I honestly I think my my spirit animal is pesta pesta I like her she's great I love her I love that your cast is her congratulations on the roll thank you so much it's a very exciting thing it's so

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great when you get to be in charge of casting because then there's no heartbreak and I've cried so many times over rolls that have not been gotten oh you get every roll hey I gave myself the the role and you're like well I'm good at interpretive dance I'm like sure then you have it it's fine I'll find another one we can do it together I'm the cat I'm a casting director that's great I like that role you and I are one so we have to do everything with our feet and arms tied together this is so weird there was like a doll I had growing up that if you turned its head it was I think it was like a beauty and the beast doll and like it was like one side was the prince and the other side was the Beast and you can like turn the head and like all this stuff so now I'm imagining you and I tied back to back and we like I'm pester and you're me and it's like double person like we

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have two parts of ourselves and so pesta jumps forward and then Sabrina jumps forward and we have to like do the whole show back oh my gosh I like it and then by the end of the costume back and forth and it's like it changes color you know it's like black when it's it's pasta and then it's like white or rainbow or something when it's not and then just whoever else will position it where it's like if it's pesto it looks kind of like she's got like a big Hunchback but when it's not it just looks like this person's got a big donk we'll make we'll make it look like real Justice back the Hunchback is actually just your head resting on my back while I'm pesta and then I guess your head has to rest on my butt to make me look like I can do that for you I can thank you anything for you we are businesswoman if you cannot yeah we are where's the scroll you already packed it away well if you've encountered the Grim Reaper if you would like to help us write and create this musical Reaper bin Reaper be reaping or if you want to be

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on the reaper board with us let us know or if you have any paranormal experiences at all please email us at two girls one ghostpodcast gmail.com and a reminder we are on the road right now we're halfway through our tour but we still have plenty of shows for you to come see us we are in let's say we're in Portland tonight when this comes out we'll be in Boston Connecticut New York Philly Richmond DC Austin Texas like we'll be everywhere so check out our website and our social media for tour dates if you haven't gotten your tickets yet please do uh you can rate and review us on iTunes you can tell everybody about us you can follow us on social medias you can send us your ghost stories at two girls podcast.com so many women you did not say that right two girls one ghost podcast gmail.com there you go there's so many ways to support us uh like listening thank you for listening yeah we love you watch us on YouTube watch us on YouTube and thanks to our team thank

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you to Christina for editing both the YouTube the ad free episode on patreon and the episode that we publish where every list in a podcast thank you thank you we love you all thank you so much and we will see you on the other side very spooky