Hauntings in the Cemetery | True Listener Ghost Stories (x322)

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We have a listener who had to excavate a cemetery. This bathhouse was very old. It was built directly beneath a cemetery that had existed for nearly a thousand years. The theme today is what weird things have you done or seen or experienced in the cemetery?

Very spooky. Hello. Hi. This is Two Girls, One Ghost.

Two Girls, One Ghost. And we are your ghostesses. That is Karyn.

Hello. I'm Sabrina, and this is an Encounters episode where we have a theme. We pick a bunch of stories that you have emailed us, and

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the theme today is in the cemetery. What weird things have you done or seen or experienced in the cemetery?

excavating a cemetery

I have one that's not a ghost story, but I want to start with it. Oh. Because we have a listener who had to excavate a cemetery. And it was just cool to read about like what that meant.

cool. Okay. Okay. Hi Karyn and Sabrina. My name is Karyn too. Wait, that's so funny. I have someone whose middle name is Karyn. Really? Yeah. It's the Karyn episode. It's the Karyn episode. I chose the topic, but it's the Karyn episode.

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Back in 2018, I was an undergrad at IUPUI. Indiana University Purdue University of Indianapolis. Whoa. My god. Uh, can I propose a name change? You just have to say IUP. IUP. I was studying anthropology and minoring in religious studies. Summer of 2018, I was a junior and I had this sickest opportunity to dig up a 19th century

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cemetery. I was a shovel bum for a handful of weeks that summer excavating graves, then got to analyze all of the bones that following fall semester. So, I'll try to make this short, but FedEx was expanding, so that little old cemetery got in the way. Honestly, that kind of makes me mad. I know. Totally illegal to build on top of bodies, so it became our job to get all of those people out. After the bones were analyzed, everyone was reburied next to the same people with all of the same belongings that we found, but just at a different location. What belongings were found? That I think that is always so cool to me to see what people choose to be buried with.

Right. It's like did they choose or did other people choose for them, you know?

They even got new headstones, which I thought was totally cool. Wow. Okay. Now, let me tell you a few stories from when I was excavating.

Yes, please.

When we were going to dig, we were told that there were 400 people buried, but we uncovered 543.

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The last person buried there was embalmed, the only person to have been embalmed at that time. Wow.

was the first course of action of embalmment that we got to see, and we got to get that person out. Learned that when you're embalmed, you essentially become sludge. None of the students were allowed to be there when the person was brought out of the ground, and the cement part that encases the coffin, I don't really know the term, was cracked, because who the hell knows what they used to use to embalm them. Anyway, it was crazy. There was a headstone of a guy who died in Alabama during the Civil War. Even though there was a headstone, we weren't really confident that there would be a body there. The thought of transporting him all the way from Alabama to Indiana during that time just seemed kind of crazy, but low and behold, he was there. Wow. The water table was high where he was buried along with a lot of other people, and due to the water table being so high, it preserved him a little than the other people who were not in as high of a water table area. Wow.

He still had hair. His brain was

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shriveled, just chilling in his skull in a pool of water. One of the graves I was assigned to, you could tell the person was an adolescent due to their teeth. You know when a kid's adult teeth are growing in on top of the teeth and it's kind of like jagged? Well, that's how the kid was. It was so sad. Mhm. In a majority of the graves, you could find detailed glass with flowers and other designs all around the skulls. This was a viewing glass. No embalming means that you have to move your funeral services quick due to decomposition, so the viewing glass was a way to have a closed casket, but for loved ones to still be able to see and say goodbye to their loved ones. Oh. We found buttons, pieces of clothing, tons of coffin hardware like nails, handles, pieces of wood from the coffins, hinges, etc. And a lot of name plates resting on the stomach areas of individuals. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Like in case the grave got ruined or something? Well, it's interesting cuz it didn't necessarily say like the name

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is it she reads one read father and a grave about two spots down, we found another name plate that read son. Oh. So they were just like identifying like the family, like who they are as a family.

Wow. It was definitely an experience of a lifetime and I'm so happy I did get to experience this.

So cool. Although I ended up not following an archaeological path, I would do anything to have another experience like this. I am now a board certified behavior analyst and I work with kids on the autism spectrum. Life sure is a wild ride. And then she attached some articles from it's uh called Bethel Cemetery. Hm. That's what it was called? Yes, cuz there's like one of the articles and now it's FedEx.

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One of the articles is titled The Painstaking Process of Moving Bethel Cemetery. I do love What's this listener's name? Corrine?

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Oh, sorry, I forgot. Forgot the Corrine episode. I love that Corrine was a part of this. Like you can tell how much care she put

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into the assistance of like moving all of these bodies because I always get nervous and worried when places are being built on top of old cemeteries. Like how are they managing and handling the bodies? Well, because we hear about like oh, this cemetery was moved or like this was Yeah.

these graves were dug up and like whatever. But we never hear like the actual process of it.

Yeah. And the like attention to detail and the like the love and care. Yeah. And what happens after they're moved. Like the everyone More people were probably identified. Well, that's another question cuz there were some 500 bodies that they found. How do you identify the ones that didn't have tombstones? Can you? Or do you just give them a new grave that says like a mass grave. Unidentified. Right. And those who were got new headstones, which is

Which is nice. Nice. But dang Ooh, the guy that like the water table and he's just his brain shriveled and he's just like shriveled and floating in his skull and water. Kind of reminds me of um Did you watch

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the new season of Wednesday? Did I? I feel like I must have. The like Give me a hint or something.

zombie in the tree Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. What What did they call him? Slurp? Cuz he slurped people's brains out. I did watch it. Um That was awesome. I love If you have any like we want to know these types of stories. They don't have to always be like so paranormal, but like It can just be cool. If you Yeah, it could just be cool. If you would do archaeological digs, if you help exhume bodies and I don't I just I think other people are so much more fascinating than myself and I just want to hear your stories.

Insight into other people's their experiences. It's so cool. If I could just spend my entire life, and this is how I feel about the fact that I will never be able to read every single book that exists. It's so devastating and like heart-wrenching. Unless I become a vampire, but I also feel that with human beings. I won't ever possibly

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know everyone else's stories. Unless it becomes pluribus. And I get everyone's thoughts. Consciousness. Until then, we'll take your paranormal stories. I don't think you want to know everyone's experience. I think it would be too heavy to carry some people's the dark things that they've gone through. I do feel like I do know a lot of people. Everyone in my life close to me tells me their heavy stuff. Yeah, but imagine everyone in the world, billions of people.

Well, but there's also pleasant things to hear. Okay. And also like careers like this, you Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like someone you walk by on the street might have a cool story.

got to like everyone present like one story from your life? Yeah. For you to know.

Actually, my friend Madison, she just has such a different job than anyone I've ever known. She works in um what's the engineering? It's like a specific type of engineering. She's like literally looking at dirt composition all the time and like helps like with construction of like what materials you need and like what the substances on the ground. Yeah, what is that called?

"Can you please take your friend to work day?" Like I want to see you play in the

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dirt. And I know that's like

is she That's like literally what I'm Yeah. thinking She's in like a lab doing things. Yeah.

Yeah.

she says, "Oh, you got to use the the metal or Yesterday she texted me Yesterday she texted me saying there was like some nuclear like paperwork she had to do. I said, "Excuse me?" She was like, "Yeah, some of our clients like have to use like nuclear." And I was like, "What is your job?"

And how do you get that job? How does that come to be? What kind of engineering is it? Engineering. How do people learn about certain jobs like this? Rock engineering. That's not the right word.

Not the same at all, but it's like how my cousin Kate works on um flood maps for like the next however many years and like so cool works with like the city to figure out plans and like where to do things.

Yeah. And when we were house hunting, I was constantly messaging her being like, "Is this going to flood? Is this in the flood zone?" I am not in charge of every plot of land and where things are going to flood in a hundred years. Oh my gosh.

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[laughter]

Well, some cemeteries flood and your brain gets preserved.

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was I taken over in a cemetery?

I'm going to read this one uh from Vanessa and it's was I taken over in a cemetery? Oh wow. Mhm. Hi ghosty babes. This will stay with me for the rest of my life. Mhm. Maybe it was paranormal, maybe not, but it was enough to keep me from ever going to a cemetery again. That has to be really scary. When I was 15 or so, my mom would take it upon herself to clean our neighbor's tombstone since her only daughter was living out of state. I would sometimes accompany my mother since our neighbor was like an tia to me, an aunt. She passed at 99 years old just a few weeks before her 100th birthday. And she and I were super close. Even though we didn't speak the same language and she passed when I was 9 or 10.

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Anyway, I decided to go with my mom this random fall day where it wasn't hot, but it wasn't cold. It was just a nice calm day and I wanted to help my mom out. It's important to know that I was not dehydrated. I was not hungry. We had just had lunch before we took off to the cemetery. And this was not a long drive either. Mhm. It was just across the highway. So, on this day, my mom was scrubbing the tombstone while I swept the edges of the pavement. It was a little windy, enough to muffle your ears a bit if that makes sense, but I live in Texas, so it was a welcome wind. And then I started to feel light-headed. My eyes wouldn't blink which prompted me to tell my mom I wasn't feeling too good. She, of course, wasn't having it and told me if I wasn't going to help to just go sit in the truck.

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I stayed a little longer to help until I literally could not stand still. The wind was pushing me side to side. So, I told her I was going to go get some water and I start walking to the truck which was a good six to seven graves away, but really not that far. I start walking and I started stumbling. And I

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was looking around and then I heard something heavy shift. And an god-awful smell filled my nose. It smelled like death. And the shift, the first thing that came to mind was a coffin settling in the ground. Ew. I looked around and my eyes landed on a mausoleum for a split second. I reached for the door handle on the truck. It was locked. But no, it wasn't. I know it wasn't because I was the last one to get out and my mom knew not to lock it because we were going to be going back and forth to the truck to clean and get tools for the cleaning. Also, the cemetery was empty. No one was here. I pulled and pulled the door handle trying to get away from the smell and this overwhelming feeling that was pulling my shoulders down. I pulled and pulled some more and then it was black. I don't know how long I was out, but when I opened my eyes my mom was still in sight using the shovel to take out weeds. No knowledge of what had just happened to me. My lower body was under the truck next to the front wheel and my head was an inch away from the tombstone we parked next to. It made no sense. How did I faint so close to the tombstone without

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hitting my head and how did my body end up under the truck? When I got up, my shoulder was covered in ants and there was a chunk of flesh missing. I have no idea how long I was out. I made my way to my mom and she said she didn't notice that I had fallen or was fainted or anything and she also did not smell what I was smelling. By the time I came to, the smell had gone. So, I literally have no idea what happened. And this stopped me from doing

know either. I feel like maybe someone had recently been buried and like the confusion or something. I don't know. It stopped me from visiting any cemeteries for a while after, especially with my mom because how do you not notice your daughter faint and fall to the ground? Anyway, I'd like your input because it has haunted me for years. I am now 26 and I've had other experiences both before and after the fact, but I cannot explain this one. Stay spooky, much love, Vanessa. My god. I don't know what happened to you. The ants thing, the chunk of flesh like that

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of flesh makes sense cuz you fell like you get like a wound, but the ants makes it seem like she was out for a while.

Yeah. How does that happen? What kind of ants were there? Wait, okay. Were Was there like a poisonous ant that like bit her she passed out and fainted from it and they're trying to attack her cuz she's on their nest? Could that be it? No, but like think about the the way that like the world kind of was like Yeah, but ants sometimes give off a like gross smell. Like a dead ant?

but she said she smelled like the decay of a body. And then her eyes kept drawing towards the mausoleum. Like and then the feeling of like the coffin shifting. I don't know. That's a really freaky, so disorienting. And the fact that her mom experienced none of that, didn't notice any of it, and just like lived in her She was just annoyed that it was like young Vanessa being like, "Ugh, you're being dramatic. Why did you even come if you don't want to help?" That's what her mom was thinking. I really do

if there's other paranormal experiences or if this like is Vanessa way more open? Well, she did say she's had others and that's why I'm like, I wonder if she

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is really empathetic and in tune with the spirit realm if like there is a spirit there that maybe was confused and projected their energy and she just took it on. Mhm. Which is overwhelming. Yeah. Cause you to black out and faint.

Right. Or like did somebody try to possess you?

kind of like a Trade places, swap places with a corpse. Right. Like they're they're freaked out, they don't know what's happened and they're just like, I got to do anything to try to talk to someone, to try to live again. Uh yeah, I understand not wanting to imagine

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or at least specifically not that one. Yeah. But that's really scary. We do need to know your other experiences. Mausoleums are kind of freaky. I know that they're like not really that different cuz it's still like just burying the dead, but there's something about it like being like a small house that is freakier. It feels like there's like more stuff in there, like a darker like it just feels like it could breed bigger, badder energies.

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Well, also cuz like some of them have like underground areas.

Mhm. I feel like nothing beats Greyfriars Kirkyard and like the churchyard graveyards in Edinburgh because they are not even just the mausoleums, but just the graves themselves are ginormous. Which is beautiful, but it is there's something so super haunting about it. Mhm. They don't really do that now, do we? I think like maybe like New Orleans. I don't know. They have wild cemeteries down there. Some places definitely do. Because I'm just concerned that we're going to run out of space. Well, we are as we know from Corrine's story. FedEx is taking over.

FedEx needs to expand their building. As humans are freaking cockroaches and just What's now? Spreading. Okay, I have an email from Rachel. Okay. Hey Corrine and Sabrina, I love your podcast so much. Thanks for creating a spooky and funny podcast that I can binge listen to for hours. I've always thought of myself as someone who is more in touch with the spiritual world. I can walk into a place and tell

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if it's haunted and I love listening to paranormal events, though I am terrified of ghosts.

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Although I could tell you a handful of spooky ghost stories, this is one that my friend and I still freak out about to this day. It happened to my sophomore year of college. I went to Ole Miss and then through it's hotty toddy, which I don't understand, but

But if you went to Ole Miss Ole Miss hotty hotty toddy. I was a woo girl. Yes, and and on a Friday night when everyone and their mom was out partying in the square, a couple of friends and I decided to drive through a local cemetery at night.

This sounds like so our college experience. Oh, for sure. Like oh, everyone's getting drunk. Great. We'll start pre-gaming, but we're going to also ghost hunt. We're going to hang out with the ghosts. We'll catch you at the party.

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Or we leave the party early to go break into buildings.

Someone had a really good idea if we ever find ourselves in LA together. I thought you were just going to say back in college. I was like, wow. No, to go back to LMU and do like an episode of

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Two Girls One Ghost, but like a ghost our ghost tour of LMU based on like the hauntings on campus. Like go to each of the dorms.

Yeah. I was like that's like a really fun I feel like LMU would let us do that. Do you think? I think so.

know, they worked pretty hard to cover up the haunting in my sophomore year dorm. The death there. That's true. Maybe they'll maybe they'll be like, we need to review the footage before you post it anywhere.

Say no. No. And that is why I don't donate as an alumni. Cuz they won't let you record about the haunting in your sophomore room dorm. Okay. This cemetery is a pretty decent size and it has graves dating back to the early 1800s. Fun fact, William Faulkner is buried here. And it's freshman tradition to take a shot at his grave.

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That is so cool.

That's so funny. I hope he likes that. I love that that's a college tradition.

Yeah. That's amazing.

a shot with

William Faulkner. Willie. Willie. Anyway, we were driving slowly through

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the cemetery looking for any ghostly apparitions. This cemetery has a straight narrow road that turns into a roundabout that wraps around a circle of old oak trees

Ooh. and three old ass graves. I want to see a picture of this, William Faulkner's grave. Oh, yeah. Just want to see.

Cuz I didn't know necessarily say it's the name of the cemetery, but It's big. What's the name of the cemetery? It just says in a cemetery in downtown, just outside of downtown Oxford, Mississippi. Anyway, as we were about to near the roundabout, my friend Allison in the backseat of the car yells, "Get to the road now! I just saw a lady wearing a bonnet!"

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The driver, Kelly, slams on the gas pedal as we all start screaming. And as we're going around the roundabout, our headlights light up a man walking by himself in the pitch black cemetery. He's wearing a white shirt and faded blue jeans. He has no flashlight on or cell phone on him. And when our headlights shine on him, he slowly turns his head around making eye contact with us and then casually turns back around

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and keeps walking into the dark. Weird, but we don't think anything of it at this point. Still freaking out about the bonnet lady, My friend keeps driving, but because we were freaking out so much, she missed the road to get back to the bonnet lady, so we have to go around the roundabout one more time. Oh, no.

when we get to where we saw the man, there was no one there. And it's important to note that this roundabout is situated on a hill that overlooks the entire cemetery. So, this mysterious man that we just saw feet in front of our car disappeared in 5 seconds.

Because he was a ghost. We end up getting back to the road where my friend saw bonnet lady. I love that they're not running from bonnet lady. They're actively trying to go towards bonnet lady.

like also freaking out about everything while Yes.

Cuz I came here to go see ghosts, and so they're getting what they asked for.

Get to the bonnet lady fast. So, we end up getting back to the road where my friend saw bonnet lady, but shocker, bonnet lady was not there. Once we all calmed down a bit, I bring up the weird guy we saw earlier, and as we start to recount what happened, we all agreed how weird it was that someone

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was walking alone at night with no light, and also the fact that he disappeared in seconds. That might be the weirdest part, because you all are also there late at night.

Right. Another odd thing about the night was the entire time we were in the cemetery, our car windows kept fogging up, but the second we left, the windows were clear as day. Ooh, that makes me think there's like a bunch of ghosts breathing on the windows.

Uh, yuck. I love it. Hot ghost breath. Hope you enjoyed my story. I'm pretty sure I 99.9% saw a ghost. I typed this in haste. I'm too afraid to go back and read it and make edits. Stay spooky. Spooky Rachel. Rachel, you for sure saw, if not one, maybe two ghosts.

Yeah. I think two. I'm 99.9% sure you saw two ghosts. Totally. And that's what you wanted. Cuz if it was a bonnet lady, you like, it makes sense if there was someone lead like a tour guide dressed up like to be on theme leading a group, but just so low. And she disappeared. And the guy

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disappeared. And the fact that they were at a roundabout where they're just like circling trees, he should still be there. And the fact that like the only place he would go is down the hill and they could see everything. That's a great investigation.

Also love cuz I feel like you and I have been to our fair share of cemeteries. We've been to some together. We've been to some part. I feel like I've never seen a physical operation. And in a cemetery? Or or kind of just like in in general but like yes, in a cemetery. But then I've also there's situations where someone like sees something out of the corner of their eyes they that moves but I didn't see it. For all of them to see both. Well, one person saw the bonnet lady.

Sure, okay. And then they saw the man.

But the entire group saw the man.

Right. To have a shared experience with all of that.

Which like I understand like if I were walking in a cemetery or whatever and I'm just like walking through and I like look back and I whatever and I keep walking. Mhm. Cuz there's just another group. But the fact that he just disappears and there's only like one clear path with a [clears throat] clear route.

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jinn in a bathhouse beneath a cemetery

All right. What I loved about this theme is it there's so many different reasons and experiences people have in cemeteries. So, this next story caught my attention because it's about jinn, which we talked about in the episode where we covered stories from Asia, but it takes place in a bathhouse that was beneath a cemetery. Okay. Creepy. So, this is from our listener Naseem from Iran from Iran Iran Iran Iran. I ran away from saying it. Um

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it is called my father met a jinn, Middle Eastern demon sort of, in a bathhouse beneath a cemetery. Hello. My name is Naseem, she/her. I want to share a story that's been passed down in my family for over 40 years. This happened

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to my father and even now, decades later, he remembers every detail with terrifying clarity. About 40 years ago, my father was living in a small village in the mountains of Iran. One night, around 2:00 in the morning, he went to the village's public bathhouse. And this bathhouse was very old. What made it worse was its location. It was built directly beneath a cemetery that had existed for nearly a thousand years. That's wild. [sighs] A thousand years. That night, my father

there and to build on top of it and to build using water.

beneath it. Oh, [ __ ] Yeah. So, it's like an underground bathhouse. Above them is the cemetery.

And again, you're adding water, which only contributes more to hauntings. And also, think about like the moisture going up. Like, what if what if they start to fall down and yeah.

Um, okay. So that night my father was completely alone. The bathhouse was silent except for the sound of dripping water and

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steam filling the air. As he was washing, suddenly a voice came from behind him. Calm, polite, human. Can you pass me the loofah? My father froze. Without turning around, he instinctively glanced from the corner of his eye and that is when he saw it. There was a person standing behind him. Who at first looked completely normal except for the legs. Their feet were completely backwards.

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Knees were facing my father, but the feet were twisted in the wrong way, reversed in a way no human body could ever be. Ew. And in the Middle Eastern folklore, this is one of the first well-known signs of a jinn revealing itself. My father didn't scream, he didn't turn around. Somehow he stayed calm and without directly looking at it, he picked up the loofah and handed it back. And the voice thanked him. And then he heard footsteps away from him. That was it. No threat, no explanation, just silence. My father left the bathhouse shortly after and never went back alone. I can't

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imagine staying there for much longer. I'd run.

Well, and then like I'd be fearful the entire time moving through cuz it's if you're trying to avoid eye contact and try to trying to just like avoid contact at all. It's like where where do you look? What's going to be around the corner? What's going to speak to you? I'm getting chills right now. Yeah.

Oh, that's so

scary and you're alone in there. It's not like you can call to someone for help. Good thing he was aware enough to like just take in Mhm.

peripherally what he was seeing before actually cuz if someone asked me for something, I don't think I'd like slow turn or no like there must have been something in him that was like gave him pause enough.

Because he knew he was there alone and he didn't hear someone approach him. He just heard a voice. That like that is startling.

Yeah. My So, Naseem says, "In our culture, it is said that jinn can take many forms. Sometimes they look human, sometimes their legs are reversed or shaped like animal hooves. These are ancient, powerful beings, intelligent, and unpredictable. And if you anger them, they can ruin your lives in ways

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you don't understand. My father is not an easily frightened man, but even now, 40 years later, he remembers this encounter perfectly. He never forgot the sound of that voice or the sight of those feet. I personally haven't had a paranormal experience yet, but I'm fascinated by the supernatural, and I'm trying to learn about witchcraft myself. I would love to hear you talk about the Middle Eastern jinn on the podcast someday. They are ancient, terrifying, and deeply rooted in thousands of years of stories and folklore. Thank you so much for your podcast and creating such a safe space for stories like this. Love you both. Naseem from Iran. As always, see you on the other side." Naseem, that is a very freaky experience. Terrifying. But I'm also not surprised.

Goodness, that yeah. That location. Right. Was it technically like a jinn that your dad saw or a spirit when he was speaking to that person when he was trying to find the bath? Or the

think that was a a spirit.

bathroom.

It was a a man that was haunting the house.

Mhm. And the man was protecting the

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little girl.

He's like, "Don't pee with the door open, you

Yeah. dirty rotten scoundrel. There's a child's ghost here." No, but my dad, the experience where he was walking under banyan trees, that I think he believed was a jinn.

Mhm. I'll have to ask more clarification because while he grew up partially in Pakistan, I don't know how rooted in like the jinn in that type of lore he is cuz when he talks to me, he talks very like about spirit forward, but I'm curious. I just saw something, and this is like me regurgitating one sentence that I read online and knowing nothing more, but I think it was like in Russia, maybe, that willow trees are associated with vampires or something. I got to look into that. Well, cuz and I have been talking about doing a vampire series. Yeah, we might dabble in the dark.

So, maybe we'll look up some strange, interesting global facts about vampires.

Mhm. Stay tuned. Stay tuned.

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Yeah, a bathhouse beneath the cemetery. I'm curious. Maybe we can find it. Beneath cemetery. There's a 16th-century Soltan bathhouse in Iran often associated with nearby burial sites. Mhm. It's beautiful, though.

cemetery. Interesting. We need dates. We do need dates. We're trying to I think there are a couple, so I don't think it's just one. Yeah. Okay, I have a story

apparition helps find a grave

[clears throat] from Eliza. Hello, I love you both. You both have calming voices that I catch myself listening to when I'm doing skin care, driving, even before I sleep. You're probably the cause of my sleep paralysis. Oh, [laughter] well. Sorry. Anyway, here's a story of an apparition that my family and I saw when visiting my dead family members' graves. To preface, their graves are about 5 to 8 hours away, depending on traffic in Southern California. My grandma, mom, and I decided to pay tribute to my great-grandmother and grandfather at their burial sites. Keep in mind that my great-grandmother passed away 2 days

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before I was born. Mhm. I've always felt a connection to her even though I have never met her, and we also don't have any pictures of her. None? I guess not.

That's sad. We drove with the intent to be there before dusk, but the outlet malls that we were passing were just too tempting. So, we didn't end up making it to the cemetery until around 7:00 p.m. And at this point in time, it was dark in California. When we arrived, it was obviously harder to find which grave site we were looking for. My grandma, who lives closer, said that she knew the way. And spoiler alert, she did not. Mhm.

[laughter]

Now, we were lost in the cemetery after dark, Desperately looking for the two deceased family members' graves. As we were about to give up and try maybe coming back the next day, a man who never fully identified himself asked him, "Are you lost?" To which we obviously replied, "Yes." He asked the names of those we were looking for, which we had no problem replying with. And this guy said, "Ah, yes. They should be right over there, undoubtedly."

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While pointing So formal. So formal. While pointing towards a row of graves. We believed him, fully thinking that he was just the groundskeeper there. And as we start walking towards where he'd been pointing to, we turn to say, "Thank you." But behind us, there was no one in sight. And this was within a couple seconds. So we turn, we look at the graves, we process, look back at him, but he's not there. Confused because we didn't hear any footsteps and it was also the fall, so there were crunchy dry leaves on the ground. And also no indication that a man had left before we were done speaking. He was just gone. And we were bewildered. Anyway, we went on to look at the graves. And sure enough, both of our family members were exactly where he had pointed us to. Was this man a fellow spirit? Or maybe just like a sneaky man who's able to walk away in vast land that is the cemetery? Perhaps my great-grandma knew that we wanted to connect with her and spoke to this man. Perhaps this man had more energy to show himself than my grandparents. We occasionally bring this up with

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family and we still have no answers. So what do you think? We did say our thanks to the man who helped us out loud because we believe in love and light in the afterlife and can't help but be grateful for a person who saved us some time and pointed us in the direction of our beloved family. But this guy was so real-looking. Older, kind, a full apparition. Stay spooky, Eliza. I love these kinds of stories because it happens often. We've read multiple stories where people are looking for a grave. We even had someone on our campfire stories recently who had a very similar experience where someone in the cemetery shows them directly to the correct corresponding grave that they are looking for but within seconds they are gone. It's amazing and I love it and I love that there's like helpful ghosts in the cemetery that are just like okay no I'll help you. Right.

Like come over here. The protectors. Or I feel like there's so many stories of kids who just like have imaginary friends or whatever in the cemetery

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Playing with the kid at the cemetery.

No exactly like where to go to find the grave of that kid. Oh there's so much of this. It's so Wow. Interesting right?

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cemetery Ouija session

Well, that was a very pleasant, helpful ghost. Mhm. And I have an email to wrap up this episode. It has a bunch of stories. I will start with the Ouija board in a cemetery story, but then I'll read some of the others because it there's plenty of great stories. This is from our listener Jordan. And these are the the hit clips. Ouija boards, psychics, seeing my brother's spirit travel through time, and more. Okay. Hey Corinne and Sabrina, it's November of 2023 and I'm just now

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hearing about your podcast. What? I'm way too late to the game, but I'm so happy to be here. I have a few stories, and I heard that you once said you don't want people to save their stories for another time, so I'm laying them all out right now, and I hope you read and stay along for the ride. I promise it's worth it. A few facts about me before we get into the stories. I was the last person to speak to both of my grandfathers before they died.

Oh, wow. I've been connected to both of them ever since, and they both play a role in these stories. I've seen things my entire life, but I've been too scared to tell anyone for fear of being looked at like I'm delulu. And now that I know you two exist, I'm excited to finally share my stories with two fellow ghosties. I'll put titles on each story. Okay, so I'm going to start with This is not the first story Jordan wrote, but I'm going to start with Ouija board in a graveyard because how can we do a cemetery episode without someone playing a Ouija board in a graveyard? I know that Corinne's probably cringing at that title, but yes. When I was 12, I did a Ouija board in a graveyard at midnight

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with some of my friends. We were all little weirdos and did not understand the danger that a Ouija board holds if not used properly. So, anyway, we got out the Ouija board. I said a quick prayer to the person's headstone that we were using as a table. I'm not religious, but, you know, I said a prayer out of respect. And then we got started. I was in charge of asking the questions, and I made my friends swear they would not move the planchette because I wanted to get real results. Middle school Joe meant business. So, I started asking if there were any spirits with us. The planchette moved to yes. I then asked if there was anything they wanted to share with us. The planchette moved slightly and then back to yes. This is how the rest of the session went. I asked, "What would you like to say?" The board spelled out h e l l o. "Hello." Oh, hello. Just here to chat. I asked, "What do you want to say?" The board spelled out t e a k.

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"Teak?" "What does that mean?" The board spelled out t e a r. "Tear? Like crying?" The planchette moved to yes. I asked, "Why are you crying?" And the board spelled out s t u c k. "Stuck." I started to ask, "You're stuck?" And the board cut me off, started moving even more. It spelled out s a d a n d a l o n e. "Sad and alone." Oh my gosh, this is heartbreaking and so direct with how they feel. This is a It ends up happy. Okay. I asked, "Is there something we can do to help?" And the board spelled out v i s i t. "Visit." Aw. "Visit you?" The board The planchette went to yes and then spelled out g r a v e. I said, "Visit your grave? How do we know which one it is?" And the board spelled out y o u

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k n o w. "You know." The board didn't say anything else after that, so we said goodbye and had a long conversation about what just happened. All of us swore we had not moved the planchette. Needless to say, I went home a little spooked, but not necessarily scared. I didn't feel like anything was trying to harm us, and I lived a short walk from the graveyard, so I'd walk around and visit from time to time to look at and read the old headstones. The first time I visited the graveyard after that night, I saw something near the edge of the graveyard. It was a bouquet of flowers laying on top of a solo headstone of a boy named Adam. He had passed when either he was 14 or 15, and the headstone was about 100 years old. So, it was odd that someone would have come and left him flowers, but I had a gut feeling and just knew that this is the spirit we had been talking to when we were using the Ouija board. So,

Because you know. from then on, I would go to the graveyard at least once a week, and I'd bring Adam little gifts and talk out loud to him about my life.

Oh, that's sweet. And I started to have

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dreams, and in them, I would be talking to someone. I never saw who this person was, but I knew it was Adam. Dang. I'm 24 now, and I have not dreamt of Adam since moving away from that house and the graveyard, and since I stopped visiting his grave. And it's sad cuz I feel like I lost a friend, but I hope to go visit him sometime soon because your podcast has made these memories come back to me. I hope he has moved on and is in a good place, but also, I'm open to him coming back for a while, just so I could say hi to an old friend. That's really sweet.

so sweet. Oh my gosh, you can make friends with the dead in the cemetery. Yeah.

Build a whole relationship, get to talk back and forth outside, off-board. Off-board? Yeah, in the dreams.

Mhm. Adam like just wanted a friend. Just was so lonely. Aw.

Which It's interesting cuz the flowers were left at his grave. I It makes me believe that Adam, anytime someone comes to the graveyard to communicate with ghosts, he's like, "Come back and visit me."

Right. He's got He's collecting friends.

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He's saying that he's lonely, and he's actually the most social guy. Like The most social. So busy. Yeah. Thriving socially.

Fully packed social calendar.

[laughter]

Okay. He's got eternity to make friends. Yeah. And now he's visiting people in their dreams. Okay, so now the other stories Jordan sent are not about a cemetery, but they're also they're just good stories. Okay, this one is called my brother's spirit traveled through time {question mark}. One afternoon when I was about 8 years old, I was sitting in my mom's bed watching Ghost Hunters, fitting I know, after school. I was alone in the house and happy to have some time away from my older siblings because they like to pick on me. You can [clears throat] imagine my disappointment when I looked out into the hallway and saw my older brother, who I'll call Jay, walk out of his room and into the bathroom. I didn't see his face, but I knew it was him because he was one of those high schoolers that always wear the same clothes and was like a cartoon character that had a closet full of replicas of one single outfit, blue jeans, gray hoodie, orange baseball cap. I groaned

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and I turned down the volume of the TV hoping that he wouldn't come in and bother me. After a few minutes, I heard nothing. No sound coming from the bathroom. The door was still open. So, I was confused and I called out, "Jay?" There was no response. I was annoyed, but I got out of my mom's bed and walked over to the bathroom. It was completely empty. I walked deeper down the hallway. His room? Empty. There was no way he could have left the bathroom without my noticing because he would have had to walk past the door to my mom's room to exit the bathroom and either walk down the stairs or go back to his room, whatever. The entire house was completely empty. This is just I know we've been talking for months now about how I'm supposed to cleanse my house and this is just reminding me of the fact that I sometimes, even as recent as yesterday, uh hear Brian's voice when he is not talking to me. Karin, you have to cleanse [laughter] your house. I know. I know. I know. Everyone who's listening, send like an energy cleanse to this house because this girl is not doing what she should be doing.

Yeah, but guess what? Despite the spirits literally telling you to. I

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know. The the that dream that happened a little bit ago, that was warning and I should I should heed the warning. And it does seem to be ramping up. But you say it and you there's no I can tell there's no follow-through going to be behind it. Here's the thing.

You're so nonchalant about how you're talking about this. Cuz I also feel like I ignore it enough where like sometimes like it's like trying to make me scared and do stuff and I'm like I'll get to it. And then it like doesn't actually get to like get that powerful because I keep being like I'll get to it. Like let's do it right now. We have a time. People send us so many different cleansing tools

items, tools. We have Yeah. We have a lot of different things. Even just stand in the middle of your house and do like a verbal cleansing. Get out of here. Like Moira. Yes.

[laughter]

However, it pleases you. Ring the bell. Ding. Get out of here. Get out. Begone. There, your house is cleansed. No, but you have

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to do it with more intention.

I know. I know. Okay, fast-forward about 13 years later and I was sitting in my college dorm. This was a two-bedroom apartment-style dorm with a shared common area, kitchen, and bathroom. And I was alone in the dorm because my roommate had class. I was sitting on my bed trying to catch up on homework when something made me look up. There was no noise. I just suddenly got the feeling that I should look up from what I was doing. And when I did, I saw a figure walk out of my roommate's room and into the bathroom. The figure, blue jeans, gray hoodie, orange baseball cap. I had not thought of that first story in that afternoon occurred in years. But it came back to my mind in that moment. I have no idea what this being is. My brother Jay is alive and well. The figure first came to me when it looked the way that my brother looked for the first time back all those years ago, and then again, same outfit, same everything. The figure had not changed. I have no idea what this means. I'm not sure if you've covered it on the podcast yet cuz I'm still early. I wasn't scared in my dorm room when I saw

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the figure, just confused and wondering why it had shown itself to me again. Hmm. I wonder if [clears throat] your brother was thinking of you. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, I don't know. Cuz it's like the same age, many years apart that he's appearing.

Mhm. That is weird. Or if

And it's always walking into the bathroom. Maybe your brother has like a really like he at that moment like really had to pee and his energy just like projected out to you so much that it's traveled through time. Or like did he experience something paranormal in the bathroom at that age, at that time? And every once in a while when he has the memory of it come up, it projects to Jordan.

like he like one of his fears to someone who he felt safe with. Huh. I like that. Yeah. Cuz the first one I would be able to say like maybe it was cuz when we talk about doppelgangers, there are like the version where it is a little bit of a time slip and it's not necessarily entity or like a mimic or whatnot, but it's more of like that's about to happen, but you just witnessed it either before or after. Mhm. But then [clears throat]

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having it happen again so many years later in a place that he doesn't come visit like that.

age, too. It's weird. I don't know.

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grandma’s ghost

This next one is called Grandma's Ghost. My great grandmother Ruby, who my cat is named after, passed away when I was 9 or 10 years old. My mother worked at the nursing home that Ruby lived in for her final years as the activities director. She would organize games, holiday parties, movie nights, special dinners, etc. And she'd been doing well, and it did not seem like Ruby was at the end of her life at all. One night, my mother was in my grandma's room hanging out with her for a little while before the end of her shift, and she told Ruby that

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she would go and finish up everything that she had to do and come say goodnight before heading home. My mom had a very busy that day and forgot to return to say goodbye to my grandma before going home. A few hours after she returned home, my mom got a call from the nursing home that they had gone to check on my grandma and she had passed away in her sleep. Oh my gosh.

My mother cried and felt awful because she felt as though she had let my grandma down by telling her she would return and then forgot. I truly believe that my grandma was waiting for a time to pass where she could go alone and not cause anyone to have to deal with seeing her pass.

Yeah. I believe that, too.

I feel like that we hear that a lot where people are just, you know, Yeah. not wanting to put that burden on other people.

other people, so they wait until either everyone's come and visited or just until they're Yeah. alone. I was very close with my great grandma, and even though I was very young, I understood that I would never see her again. My heart was absolutely shattered and I stayed home from school for a week after she passed. One of those nights, I was lying in my bed trying to fall asleep when my

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grandma walked into my room, sat on the edge of my bed, and stroked my hair. In that moment, I completely forgot that she had died and the only thing that confused me was how she was just up and walking when she had to use a wheelchair or walker for so long. She didn't say anything to me, but I could feel how loved I was. And I went to sleep feeling really happy. I woke up the next morning and I remembered in that moment that my grandma couldn't have been in my room because she was no longer with us. I would have believed it was a dream and all, but when I went to pull back my covers, something fell on the floor. It was my grandmother's old makeup case. One that I had loved so much. I truly believe she had left it on my bed to let me know that it was not a dream, that she was really there and she wanted to say goodnight and goodbye one last time. There's a photo of the makeup case like this isn't just Oh, it's not here. It's a normal makeup case that you're

you're grabbing at the drugstore. No, it's a beautiful ornate It's a compact mirror. mirror. Yes.

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It's stunning. Wow, that's beautiful. And it was probably in her possession at the home, like the nursing home where she was.

It's like what you picture when someone goes to powder their nose. Yes. It's stunning. We'll put a picture of it in the YouTube video, but yeah, that disappeared on Jordan's bed.

That is wild. Oh. And what a good reminder. Okay, this one's called dog ghost. My childhood dog, Miko, died when I was 8 years old. He was a giant husky that I had grown up with since I was born and he had cancer and it was spreading all over his body. The night we put him down, my childhood best friend named, I'll call L, slept over to keep me company. She and I were asleep in the bed, the same bed that Ruby, my great grandmother, had sat on. And Miko came in as he did every night. And he curled up at the foot of my bed and fell asleep. L and I both saw him. And once again, I didn't think about the fact that Miko had passed and the fact that he couldn't or shouldn't be there.

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Oh. Oh, cuz it just feels so real and so normal.

Mhm. L stayed sleeping up on the pillows, but I did what I often did and took a pillow from the bottom of the bed to cuddle up next to Miko. I woke up the next morning laying on my pillow at the end of the bed, but no Miko. L and I looked at each other in shock. I don't remember what happened after that, but it was nice knowing that she saw him, too. Mhm. Okay, now last one. This is about L and I. We shared a dream. L and I were extremely close and we would talk to each other every single day. And one day, our usual morning FaceTime call was a little different. I called her and she immediately started crying. I called her cuz I wanted to tell her about the wild dream that I had had the night before, but obviously, I had to ask if she was okay first. She was crying. She goes on to tell me that she had a dream that I died. Oh. That she went to my funeral and talked to my mom and she said the whole thing was so vivid and felt so real and she had woken up crying right before she got my call. The scary part is that I had been calling her to tell her that I had

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a dream that she died and that I had gone to her funeral and talked to her mom. We had the same dream, but roles were reversed. We had drastically different reactions. Hers was sad and mine, I was just perplexed. But it was also crazy and I have no idea why or what that was.

I know, that's so strange. That's all for now. Thanks for the podcast and for letting all of us know that we aren't insane and for giving me hours upon hours of entertainment. I love you all so much. I'll see you on the other side. Joe, PS, my middle name is Corinne, just spelled a little different.

Hey, nice. Yeah. The last one is weird cuz it's not like they weren't in contact cuz my first thought, like if I didn't know that they were still friends,

Yeah. was like, oh, this is your way like a message like a sign to reach out to each other to like rekindle your But nope.

relationship. Nope. They

So weird.

I know. I mean, maybe it's like a fear of yours or I don't know.

Right. Maybe one person was dreaming it

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and the other person is just kind of like connected enough that like picked up on the dream and it was only meant for one person to dream. Yeah, I don't know. Dreams are so wild.

die in dreams it freaks me out cuz I'm like, oh my god, I hope that this doesn't mean anything.

I know. Well, I was saying this to you I mean months ago, but like I don't often dream about people who I'm very close with because I feel like when I do it's a message.

Yeah. Like most of my dreams are like random ass things and like people maybe that I subconsciously saw throughout life, but they're random. But when I dream about people I know it almost always is a message and the last month I have been having the most insane, very message forward dreams. And I saw Chris, who's the psychic we brought on to Patreon to teach us about Samhain and also is like the psychic who works in Salem that I've seen.

Yeah, she works at Pentagram in Salem.

She was posting on her story and was like, what is going on with dreams? Like every person I've been talking to is having really psychic dreams lately and

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I messaged her and I was like, what the heck, me too. Like I had a dream about

freaks me out cuz I just told you that I had a dream about someone we were friends with in college dying. I know. But Hopefully he's okay. Yeah. Wait, so who who was yours? What are yours about?

They're they've been about a bunch of different people, but like and they're not like worrisome always. Like one of them was about our friend Lexi. I had the clearest like she was going to date this guy. Oh yeah, I think you did tell me that.

I texted her at I heard the full name in my dream, but when I woke up I couldn't remember the full name, so I could only text her the first name and she was like, "Well, the only one I know I hate, so." Yeah.

Um well, you never know. Right. But then I had a dream about someone else who like I don't talk to often. I reached out to them, and I was like, "Hey, is everything okay? I had this dream. Like sorry if this sounds woo-woo, but just like thought I'd reach out." And they were like, "That's so weird. I'm like, I'm okay. I'm struggling a little bit, but like I'll be okay."

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At least you like felt comfortable enough reaching out. But I do wonder if someone like their reaction to it, like I wonder if they understand that like their pain feels so heavy that it is reaching out that far.

It's transcendent. Yeah. I've had that not as much in dreams, but like once in a blue moon I'll very clearly smell someone when I'm like alone or or whatever. And it's like someone who's alive, and but that scent is Like they're they're sentient. Yeah, I very much like attribute

Does that what clair sentient means, or does it sound like sentient, so I just word association?

Well, now I don't Now I don't know. My brain can't comprehend anything.

Sentient. That's emotions.

[laughter]

But it it is one of those things where like it's always been people who it would be inappropriate of me to reach out and ask if they're okay. Mhm. Clair aliens or clair clairal factants. I definitely get a lot of that cuz I I even smell things in my dream. Z. Wow.

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You're You're scent oriented person.

of my dreams are scentless. But there's some scents. But that also makes me think like when you are smelling something like that's an important detail. Mhm. It's like that one perfume that only existed in my dreams for a long time, but then a couple years ago someone in Boston walked by me with that exact same like smell, the cologne or whatever, and I was like,

[sighs and gasps]

"Oh my god, I feel like I'm back in my dreams." And I've never smelled it again since like in in this world. That's so wild. Yeah. What the heck is the paranormal world? We do not know. But what we do, yeah. I'm going somewhere. And what's happening in cemeteries? Cuz they you know, there are different thoughts. There's also different types of spirits and people, so you know, anything could happen, but I feel like there's some stories where cemeteries are like the most peaceful, quiet, spiritless places.

Mhm. But then there's stories that they are haunted and there are ghosts. And so we don't know what's happening.

Yeah. And sometimes it's because you're seeking it out, you're provoking, you're using, you're poking and prodding,

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you're saying, "Hello, come to me." But then other times you're just chilling there and something from the mausoleum comes out and possesses you and ants attack your body and and uh eat you alive. And sometimes you're dumb like me and you play a game at Bloody Mackenzie's tombstone mausoleum and you get sleep paralysis and you asked for it. Um so you can't complain, but So you do. You cannot complain. But you do anyway. We actually have one extra story. If you are like, "Oh my god, I need to stay in the cemetery. I need more ghost stories." Lucky you, we have one extra story about a haunting in a cemetery that we are reading on Patreon. It's a bonus story, so if you want a bonus story, you can check it out on Patreon. Otherwise, please email us your encounters. Like Karen has said and like Karen from the beginning of this episode, it does not have to be paranormal, it could just be cool. We love to hear your stories, but we especially want your paranormal encounters. So email them to us at twogirlsoneghostpodcast@gmail.com. You can join us over on Patreon where you can get episodes one week early and

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ad-free, plus bonus stories and witch classes and book club and campfire stories. So much fun to be had over there. Thank you to Jamie Ryan and Emma Lavender for being on our team and helping Two Girls One Ghost exist. And thank you to all of you. We love you.

We love you. And we will see you on the other side. Very spooky.