CAUTION! PEGGY THE DOLL MIGHT HAUNT YOU Pt. 2 (Ep 243)

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very spooky hello hello this is too girl one ghost two girls one ghost and we are your ghostesses that is Karen and I am Sabrina hello and we're recording this while we have a two-day break in our tour I'm at my in-laws you're at your mom's does this not scream mom's house more than anything in the world it does but it also screams like vintage Shopper you know like I feel like which is not my mother I have friends that would totally pick that up and

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store I cannot get a read on your mom's style I would never ever be able to pick out anything for your mom yes I don't know that she has a style so maybe any gift will do then maybe she's the easiest person to shop for I think that would be accurate I I also thought this was a perfect mug to use for this episode because it kind of has like creepy little doll girl uh going on and we're doing Peggy

Unsettling personal stories

the doll part two part two but before that can I tell you a ghost story that I've already told you sure I have one for you too that you've already heard great we're both double dipping probably already said it on the podcast too I feel like at this point it's all a whirlwind okay so I met this guy and he told me a ghost story and here's what happened I'm going to try to not give too much detail where he could be identified but essentially what happened was he met this woman who was a widow and she had a couple kids he moved

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in to the house where she and her late husband had lived and this man had died in the house he was really sick and he um I think had fallen down the stairs so it was horrible horrible tragedy right you had said that he had he was really sick but didn't die of his illness died from falling down the stairs yes which you know like with the illness maybe he lost his balance maybe there were some but he was very sick he fell down the stairs unfortunately in the home and he passed well as soon as this guy that I met moved into the house immediately there was some Paranormal Activity things would happen the kids were picking up on stuff there's a lot going on but all to say that this guy started noticing beyond the Paranormal Activity that animals and people around this woman he was dating were dying there was

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a lot of death death followed her so scary and he only realized how scary this was when he was approached when he was just like out in the world at a store a psychic came up to him and said you need to leave the place that you're in it's really dark it's very dangerous for you I see a man standing at the top of the stairs and he's telling me he didn't fall he was pushed so he's no longer with that person but holy [ __ ] I'm concerned about these children oh my gosh I know I know I I mean I think they're probably much older now at this point so it was a story from his past it was an older story well that's scary but yeah I mean you always say Sabrina that you want a psychic to come up to you in like the grocery store or something but what if they delivered a message like this well then I would be Greatful because then I would get out of the situation that I was in yeah would you trust it though or would you be like oh gosh I I don't know but I guess for him

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he had a lot of other Clues like there were a lot of other things that were kind of yeah it wasn't out of left field okay well that's terrifying I have a less scary ghost story which is usually the opposite for us but don't worry this whole episode is going to be scary so I'll start with

Heartwarming ghost connection

this very heartwarming ghost story so you and I recently talked to Lindsay who has the chilling podcast and we were telling some ghost stories just talking with Lindsay when after I told a story about my grandfather Lindsay pauses and is like I didn't want to interrupt you throughout the story because I didn't think the person coming through was related to your story specifically but when you were telling your ghost story about your grandfather a man came through to me cuz Lindsay has some openness and abilities and is able to contact and communicate with the other side a medium mhm and she goes a man Nam Howard came through and he wants you to

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know he lives in your area in your home and he goes by hoe and he's very nice he just wants to say hi and I was like okay Al there are cats running wild around here just so you know everyone listening the cats are making background noise it's not a demon so I didn't think too much of it I was like okay I've never felt anything like negative or bad like I felt very peaceful at my place it's a courtyard it has five different houses and then I was talking to my neighbors and I was just explaining this conversation with Lindsay and we were talking about how one of the houses in the front everyone feels like bad vibes at and feels like there's a ghost in there we joked about playing a Ouija board in there and convincing Ken to go do a Ouija board in there but it ain't happening stay tuned we'll see so then I bring up this story and I see my neighbor Alec his face turned like pale

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and I was like I'm so sorry I didn't mean to scare you and he goes no no no like are you serious and I was like yeah I mean this is what Lindsay told us and he goes my grandfather's name is Howard and he went by hoe and he always told me that one day we would be roommates in Los Angeles that is just so wild cuz at the time you were like who the heck is Howie like who this it's always one of those things where when you get messages you're kind of like is this someone just passing through or is this someone actually related to me and the fact that it did completely connect and make total sense and also how special that his grandfather was like no we're going to be roommates one day in LA and they are now yeah you can call me Howe wow we have to tell Lindsay that have you let her know yet I haven't I should email her yeah you should to be like hey by the way whatever ever you're picking up on

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totally 100% true on the nose you got it right on the nose wow wow so wild we are right now between okay we just finished

Tour events and listener tales

the Philadelphia show and we're about to head to Richmond tomorrow that's where we are and we had so many ghost things happen at the Philadelphia show I know there were quite a bit and also there were a lot of haunted people that were in the very front row of Philadelphia Mary who was toally all the and it was triggering it was going off the more stuff you put her to was like we just started putting everything right next to her yeah she's like sorry she also sees dead people so if you're haunted come to our shows and for the h hundredth time this tour we had some people that came through the meet and greet it was this group of family and friends that came up they had been to

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Gettysburg and captured a ton of Paranormal Activity and then they were going back to Gettysburg and staying in these cabins and we were like oh where's the email in our inbox cuz this is so incredible and there's actual Spirits like multiple ghosts that you can see in these photos that they took like in photos truly like a lineup of like 12 Spirits from Gettysburg oh my God we can't wait to read this and they're like oh we have an emailed what how many of you are sitting on your ghost pictures get up off your ghost stories and email them email stop sitting on them please and if it takes you 20 sittings to just write like one sentence at a time we beg of you we know people are busy but we just need a little also now there's like you can do the voice to text thing so you can just speak it and have your computer turn it into sentences I don't know how to do that you're way more techy than me can I also just give you a shout out for a second Sabrina because oh sure there was a lot a lot lot of technical

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difficulties when we were in Connecticut and you figured out the soundboard like the venue could not get your computer and all of our videos and everything to connect to the screen and then they just let you be for like 10 minutes with their full equipment and panel and then boom you had it up so you're very Tucky if uh podcasting doesn't work out for me I will be running soundboards and AIO technician venues well

Recapping Peggy the doll

everyone this is Peggy the doll part two so I'm going to pick up where we left off and don't worry I will give another disclaimer before we get into the nitty-gritty of the story and I will set our intentions once more but to remind everyone where we left off last week Peggy the doll had found her way into Jane and Simon Harris's home within within days Jane fell ill Hazel their

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psychic medium knew this was no ordinary doll and after posting One Singular image of Peggy on the internet dozens of people experienced intense paranormal side effects and one person oh hi little kitty this is Ken it means hugs Ken Ken what language is that Italian K so my mom's cats are Ken and bizo hugs and kisses oh oh my God how sweet people were experiencing intense paranormal side effects and one person Katrine even had a heart attack Jane Hazel and Simon determined there was not just one Spirit attached to the doll but two and I ended part one with a very intense Cliffhanger where Hazel had an unsettling nightmare in which Peggy the doll told her just wait and see what I can do mhm so I'm going to resume Peggy the part two with

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setting some intentions okay good because in the first part you did tell us you were like oh I think Peggy's misunderstood she's responsible or blamed for all of these conditions seizures heart attacks all these horrible things no one's died but horrific things happened to people that're Afflicted with these terrible nightmares and all of these experiences you're like but I think she's misunderstood but then you left us on the Cliffhanger of like you see what I can do and so I still have some nervousness some extreme nervousness around Peggy and her story so intentions would be great I will say I do think this episode is a little bit darker than the last episode and we're getting into like I said there are two Spirits potentially connected to Peggy the doll and I think we are going to speak more about the scary one oh okay like I said in part one I myself did not experience anything while looking at or talking

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about or reading or researching about Peggy the doll but many others have and so I want to be clear in setting intentions for us and for all of you who are listening we build around us a space of positivity and light that nothing negative nor evil or dark or with ill intent can come and burst through this positivity bubble perfect you're not allowed into our lives into the lives of our listeners nor the lives of our friends our loved ones or anyone who does not want you around positivity only and that is a hard boundary for us hard boundary and also protection extends to our pets because they are an extension of us and our families all of that said if you do want to see images of Peggy and images that we are talking about please go to our YouTube channel we will have them included in the video as we

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talk about Peggy okay so this is where we'll start we're going to put an image of Peggy up on the screen just to remind everyone of what she looks like I also want to give a disclaimer if you do start to see a bunch of flies or if your animals start to act weird while listening to this episode perhaps take a break clear your space and come back yeah and also last episode you mentioned that there were flies around you and when I was looking at that video I did find a clip where a big ass juicy fly went right across the screen so I'll pull that clip and we'll put it right here maybe slow-mo for people to see yeah we can put it here and then we'll also put it in a little bit later because I have it programmed into the episode too last episode we ended with

Meeting the famous doll

Jane and Simon taking Peggy the doll to the derby jail where a lot of people started to have experiences with her she was in a haunted location and as we've talked about before bringing a haunted object into into a haunted location ends

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up stirring up some activity it was also when they realize that there was maybe potentially a second Spirit attached to the doll which made a lot of sense because when Jane had gone with Peggy to the psychic medium in part one the medium remember was like oh the man and the woman who were in the car with you they could come in too and Jane was like I came alone so already there was some belief that there were two Spirits a woman and a male attached to Peggy the doll yes so here Peggy is now catching the attention of not just the public but one very notorious Paranormal Investigator with big muscles tiny tank tops and a big nasty appetite for ghosts I was like wa what are you about to say I don't know what I didn't know and something came out nasty came out I was like yikes this is about to be real this is about to be past rated R

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okay so our man Zack beans our man Zack bans so if you didn't know this Zack beans is actually terrified of dolls and this is something he's talked about a lot in Ghost aventures and all this stuff but he also really likes to face his fears okay he likes to confront demons and all that jazz because you know that's uh paranormal the Paranormal space that's Zack Bean's come at me bro yeah that's who he is he's got to have the muscles so that he can hold up the axe above himself and tell the demons to drop it on him that's his style you know what we should make shirts of is like muscles won't protect you against ghosts muscles won't save you now okay so naturally when Zach heard of Peggy he was like I want to meet her so in April of 2015 Zach's producers and team and he was also starting to develop a new

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paranormal show which we now know as deadly possessions but at the time it was not released yet he was kind of doing Outreach to figure out what to include on the show so in April of bizu come here will you come here oh that was a cat bizu I'm literally right here you don't need to go to my Mom it sounds like a chipmunk in distress okay so in April of 2015 Zach's producers reached out to Jane and within a couple of days everything was planned Jane Simon and Peggy were set to fly to Las Vegas to meet Zach for the filming of his newest upcoming show Deadly possessions it was scheduled for December 7th of 2015 Jane and Simon were like you know what it's probably not best to fly with Peggy from England all the way to to Vegas I'm not going to take my chances

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like all of America's haunted now as they make their way across well also just like being in a in a plain one okay one thing I wanted to clarify because I think I had the understanding that Peggy was a small doll but she's actually like three foot tall so oh she's a big girl yeah she's kind of like shocking in her size and she's porcelain I think she looks porcelain she does she's got some shine to her interesting you know what we'll just have to find out when we go to Vegas yes we will so they were like

Supernatural incidents on set

let's just not take our chances one we probably would either have to like book her her own seat which would be odd or we'd have to put her under in the like where all the bags go and I don't know that she would like that and I don't want to risk everyone else on this plane or us so right and imagine walking onto a plane and seeing a giant like porcelain doll just sitting in its own seat like strapped in that I think I would think that I died

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and I was experiencing another type of world I was somewhere in the in between very Twilight Zone actually I saw a Twilight Zone episode I was watching it on the plane to Boston the other day and it was an episode all about a doll who basically like attacked The Stepfather of this family it was creepy but also the stepfather kind of deserved it okay so they had a predicament with how to get Peggy there so what did they do so they shipped her they shipped her ahead of them and basically Peggy met them at the hotel H it's interesting cuz I feel like putting her underneath in like a shipping box on a plane is probably no different yeah maybe it was just perhaps like let's not put hundreds and hundreds of people who are on this plane at risk let's just put a few like drivers and pilots and uh FedEx drivers at risk you know hey you push one person in front of the train or do

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you push 10 that's Peck's situation I like how you just said push I think the the question is do you save one or 10 oh you have to murder someone how many oh what philosophy class did you go to clearly not a great one is it philosophy and the teacher or is it my memory um I think it's it's you it's me hi I'm the problem it's me so now everyone makes it to Vegas safely and it is time for Zach to meet Peggy and Jane arrives to Zach's Museum in Las Vegas the producer requests to put a bag over Peggy's head yes I feel like that would anchor her more right like that's that seems like it would be triggering what was the purpose why so the producer said it was because Zach doesn't want to look at her until he's ready oh and it's all about Zach here right and I guess they had

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prepared like a almost like a coffin box like thing for Peggy but it was way too small when and they were like shocked by her size when she got there and so the alternative was the bag and Jane was nervous kind of like how you were and in my mind I'm like you know what I don't really think it's for Zach's safety I kind of feel like it's for the dramatic production element of like the unveiling of Peggy's face m mhm either way they agreed and the bag was put on top of Peggy's head I guess Zach was nervous he's a big lover of dogs and was nervous that seeing her would impact him and his pets but he still took the risk addicted to the adrenaline of haunted dolls he takes the risk every time filming began and Zach and Jane sat with Peggy her head still covered and Zach kind of just questioned Peggy and it was kind of interview based you can see the episode now it's out but they

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just talk generally about Peggy and everything that had been happening with her the bag is still over Peggy's head and all of a sudden as they're talking a swarm of flies invades Zach just like all over Zach they're inside you can see it on camera and you can see it yeah whoa like they're coming out of nowhere only attacking Zach he's like trying to swap them away they're all very confused and they truly had to pause filming because it was like this is we can't film with all of these flies everywhere I can't believe that it was just a pause in filming and not just Zach fully giving up especially given how fearful he was and he's the one being targeted because he's the one that said that the bag needed to go over her head yeah and it's interesting because there's going to be a pattern that comes forward and it's we'll discuss it more when the second time happens but it's like anyone who's asking so many questions about Peggy seems to have this occur to them

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okay well I'm not going to ask another question this episode well hopefully you don't have to because I'll tell you everything okay okay so they decide to pause filming because Zach and Aaron Goodwin who's there they're like we very much believe that this is a sign of demonic possession we don't want to encourage it and continue talking about it let's pause kind of how I said if if anything starts to happen to you pause set your intentions before you come back and try to listen again so they pause and then

Katrine's terrifying experience

quickly thereafter once the Flies are gone they're like okay we're ready let's resume and when they resume Zach goes okay I think now I'm ready to take the bag off of Peggy's head the second he says this the camera that's on Peggy turns off and the people heart like I feel like it just stopped completely so the whole camera crew is like wait wait wait wait and everyone's like what's what going on and yeah so the second he

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said let's take the bag off of her head the camera that's on Peggy turns off it's reminding me so much of the Crone of cat skills when they tried to do the scan of the Crone yeah yeah so they get the camera set up again and they resume filming and they have this big dramatic moment where they take the bag off of Peggy's head they catch it on film and everything seemed okay Zach looked at the doll seemed okay and they paused and that was like kind of the first segment of the show that they were going to do was like Peggy Jane and the reveal of Peggy Ted and then as Jane is like leaving the room guess who they're bringing in for the second portion of this episode is it Annabelle no it is someone who had never seen the doll in person but saw it on an image online and had a heart attack I thought you meant another object was being brought in like another doll

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versus doll like a chicken fight for dolls oh my gosh no they brought why would she go why would she go so they decideed to bring in Katrine reic and I just wanted to give a disclaimer so in part one Katrine had seen an image and then experienced a heart attack after seeing the image and it was like coinciding with the exact time that they were doing a seance with Peggy and Peggy said something about like something's about to happen so which we thought that was a really horrible thing but then you told us that maybe it wasn't right because then they did a a seance later with Peggy and she said that her heart was weak and she was trying to help her so I don't know it is questionable if I were Katrina I probably wouldn't want to go visit this doll in person right and it's also like what is Peggy's definition of help right because it's like did she view Katrine as an animal suffering that she wanted to put out of it misery you know was that oh weak

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heartart let me help them move and not be in pain but that's a that's a question we have to ask oh my gosh okay I was more going with like she didn't know her heart was weak until she had a heart attack and then she was able to know and get herself help like a little warning shot and that is kind of what happened so I'm going to go with that anyway Katrina is there and she is going to for the first time see Peggy in person and as Jane is like leaving the room Katrina is walking in she just sees like katrine's eyes like so wide and so scared and she's realizing that Peggy is in the Next Room and it's just this like really terrifying unsettling moment so did she not know that Peggy was going to be present she must have been told but I think being told that and then the actual moment of actually seeing Peggy is a different right thing okay during

The intense seance session

the show Zach and Aaron and the team of

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producers of deadly possessions were like let's bring in a psychic and kind of conduct a seance with everyone so they have Katrine Zach Jane Aaron a psychic named Patty and Peggy sitting around a table candles are lit filming is going and you can sense that Katrine is like so uneasy so Zach tells her you can leave at any time you can let us know to stop whenever you feel uncomfortable and they have the Seance and during the Seance this is actually so interesting because it reminded me so much of last year when we recorded all of our scary possession related episodes your candles were reacting really weird yes Flames were literally just floating up in the air separated from the candle during this episode of deadly possessions and filming with Peggy something very similar happened the wax on the candles was Dripping unlike any

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other candle so it was like one area specifically these candles were dripping so weird it was burning in an abnormal Manner and then the typewriter that was in the room sounded as if someone was clicking on it trying to type but no one was sitting there oh oh they should have put a piece of paper in what if something actually was about to come out I do think there was paper in it I mean we'll have to watch to see okay so it was just Phantom typing nothing was actually being no written depression and to the Keys yes okay exactly Jane's chair began to rock almost as if like something was like pushing it and she felt almost as if like an animal was crawling underneath the chair Zach felt that same thing Patty the psychic described feeling a very strong energy one female energy and one male energy H as she spoke about this male energy her voice face dropped several octaves and

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went croaky and she felt as if something was trying to choke her to prevent her from speaking about the male energy okay Sabrina I know that we're having some tech issues but when you said choked her and croaky like as you said croaky it went on your audio what the [ __ ] normally you're the one reacting to things that happen in like my video or my tech issue but you said croaky and it was like oh that was weird just for a second only when you said that word croaky did you do again good now nope okay so that happened and then after the Seance Zach basically asks everyone to leave but he asked Katrine to stay and Katrine stays and spends alone time with well I guess one-on-one with Zach and Peggy and apparently she hugs Peggy hugs her wait I feel like that's a actually

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that's a decent move I feel like it's like I respect you I love you I'm giving you my good energy you can't give me the bad the idea I guess was for them to reconcile and it was believed that they did it it was believed I think with Patty the psychic's help they kind of had a conversation and reconciled and came to terms and it felt as if maybe Katrine would be okay moving forward that Peggy had helped her they now were amicable and I wish that I could tell you that the hauntings associated with Peggy the doll had come to an end and I wish that I could tell you the hauntings and hauntings of Peggy towards Katrine had come to an end but I cannot tell you that because the hauntings continued poor krine they all go home

Continued hauntings after set

Peggy Katrine Jane Simon they all go home and Jane had actually like

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pre-planned before doing this filming with Zach she had agreed to do a couple of events with other interviewers or other haunted you know conventions or places but shortly after filming she got word that a man named Keith who was involved in the production of the show suffered a stroke on New Year's Eve Peggy was the last subject that Keith had encountered some people theorize that perhaps it was because he had taunted a different doll I think it was Robert the Doll maybe Keith had said something negative about but Peggy was the last doll he encountered and with the fact that a lot of people had experienced similar paranormal experiences and having heart attacks after encountering Peggy Jane was feeling kind of trepidacious now at this point she's like this feels too much of a coincidence was it like the Exorcist we we have touched on haunted sets and

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movies multiple times but there's one particular movie where everyone on set there was so many deaths and freak accidents and health issues this is reminding me of that I think Poltergeist was it Poltergeist Poltergeist yeah maybe Exorcist too but definitely Poltergeist okay so that happens then a woman named Olivia Taylor reached out to Jane Olivia was a Paranormal Investigator kind of in training and she was trying to harness her abilities and she had heard of Peggy she I guess had friends in common with Jane so she reached out to Jane and was like Hey I would really like to conduct a lone vigil with Peggy to help me practice paranormal investigating Jane is a little bit nervous but then she remembers how Katrine and Peggy and everyone in that room like how do they were all fine she's just like okay if if I'm going to do this I need to set a lot of boundaries and rules and guidelines for

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Olivia to make sure that everything's okay they email back and forth quite a bit Jane decides to meet Olivia in person to kind of get a feel for her and then she requests that Olivia get a physical with her doctor basically making sure that everything is okay that she isn't sick or that her heart is isn't weak similar to Katrine and then Olivia had two pets two dogs and so Jane was like if you want to do this it has to be outside of your home we recommend and request that you book a hotel room and that you don't bring Peggy to your house so she's setting these guidelines these boundaries yeah this is so interesting too because again us being huge fans of Greg and Dana newerk having done an episode way back on the Kona cat skills and then watching the unbinding that just came out in the unbinding they go to a hotel to do all of this stuff and to yeah try to like manipulate and free the object of its I guess past it's

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binding yes yeah so it is it's like God is that why places are haunted that hotels are haunted because everyone doesn't want to do it in their own house is that what you're supposed to do I mean there's no rules because like everywhere is haunted right but at least they took one more precaution to ensure that the the dogs didn't experience anything hopefully exactly so easy

The dangerous hotel vigil

enough ol he gets a physical and she books a hotel room done and done the morning that Jane and Simon are supposed to bring Peggy to this hotel to meet Olivia is when Hazel the psychic that works with Simon and Jane calls Jane Jane picks up the phone and Hazel's like I had a really weird nightmare she says I had a dream last night someone whispered in my ear Jane and they said wait and see what I can do when Hazel woke up she could not get Peggy out of

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her head she was certain that whatever that dream was was about Peggy and so she calls Jane immediately and she's like what's going on with Peggy and that is when Jane tells Hazel about how they're about to bring Peggy to a hotel to have this one-on-one paranormal session with Olivia and Hazel's like this dream was about that I am nervous the spirit attached to Peggy just said wait and see what I can do do that's not something that I would hear and continue forward so I think everyone here is more Brave or something I think Olivia was just so and she had done all of this work right like she had booked the hotel she had gotten her health check she had been communicating with Jane for so long she was like I'm ready to do this and despite Jane being like I want to back out Olivia said no like we made all these agreements and I had done all of this I'm still doing it so they go they

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drop Peggy at the hotel to meet with Olivia you know they all like meet each other in the hotel room and Olivia puts a bottle of holy water on the bureau next to Peggy and Jane and Simon say goodbye and they're like let us know if you need anything we're not far MH and then begins Olivia and Peggy's sleepover I'm just going to give a disclaimer they really should have listen to Hazel's dream oh gosh I don't like hearing that so Olivia and Peggy settled into the room around 8:30 p.m. Olivia began to set up her paranormal equipment and ask Peggy questions Olivia said the first couple of hours were pretty uneventful there were just some temperature changes and like a couple of her equipment things would go off but then at 12:15 a.m. Olivia noticed a shift suddenly her her right side of her body became

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terribly terribly cold the EMF reader went off and then her right arm began to tingle and shake her whole right arm it was so intense and it would not stop that she ran to the bathroom and literally put her right arm under hot water trying to get it back to a regular temperature whoa I would be like call an ambulance I'm going to the hospital as this was happening she started to get this uncanny feeling of something or someone watching her she knew that the spirit was no longer inside Peggy like it was outside of Peggy the doll and it was in the room and it was watching her and watching every move that she was making she could not use her right arm anymore like she couldn't pick anything up she couldn't move her right arm and she starts to panic and she's like Peggy why are you doing this to me please stop please stop please stop and then the room began to spin she tries reaching for her phone and then remembers nothing

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uh excuse me the next thing she knows she is surrounded by paramedics and being taken to the hospital she did not wake up until 100 p.m. the next day and that is when she finds out what happened to her Olivia had had a stroke she had suffered a severe and sudden lack of oxygen to the brain and it would have been fatal had she not in that moment when she was collapsing and reaching for her phone she had called Jane oh also the sudden lack of oxygen could it be said that she was being choked it could have been wow thank God she was able to actually make the phone call ahead of time and the Jane knew that that meant something was wrong yes so they rushed there they got her to the hospital and she was okay I think after the stroke she actually had to do some PT and like rehab to get movement back into her her right arm she's okay now and basically Olivia was

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like well I'm never going to interact with Peggy once more but she said it actually made her interest in the Paranormal realm and paranormal investigating way stronger and she was like now I need to know more than anything what the heck is going on and what I need she's like I need answers yeah I guess that makes sense because while it is terrifying it is also proof of the existence of the Paranormal and how much more powerful it can be compared to maybe what we had thought it could be in the moment right it's full of surprises are you ever truly prepared no that's the question not for Peggy and the world was not prepared for Peggy either because shortly after this

Public reaction and new events

on April 2nd 2016 the deadly possessions episode with Peggy the doll aired and I don't know how to comprehend or even Express how many people ended up in the hospital after watching that episode of

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deadly possessions Jane describes this in her book she's like we were flooded with emails people explaining their own encounters and people claiming that they had been to the hospital and she was like I felt like so much of it was like fake but then people were sending their hospital records to prove that they were in the hospital after watching this episode well I'm certainly not going to watch the episode ah why why am I tempted though I don't know I've already seen a picture of her and I've been okay and you're already hearing everything that happens so you know what's going to happen yeah the Real Horror though Karin is that the day after the episode aired so April 3rd 2016 Jane is informed that Katrine reic was now in the hospital and had a stroke oh I have chill krine thought that she could watch the episode no Katrine

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Katrine no and she had a stroke she just keeps taking risks it's not good what's happening to her oh my gosh I feel so horrible for her yeah so she had a heart attack and now she has a stroke after encountering Peggy and she's in the hospital days after another person gets a stroke yes and I don't really know where Katrina is now or what's happened to her since I I'm hopeful she has not looked at Peggy or tried to interact with Peggy again since but I think the psychic Patty who had been at the filming of deadly possessions has spent a lot of time with Katrine trying to continue to sever the connection between Katrina and Peggy because clearly it was not disconnected they did not reconcile they did not part ways during the filming after all of these horrific encounters with Peggy you would think that people would have learned one either to not engage with Peggy or two to treat her

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kindly but no people do not learn people are foolish and like I had said earlier before filming and before the Airing of deadly possessions Jane had kind of agreed to a bunch of different things in with Peggy so interviews some not sightings some appearances that's what I was looking for with Peggy that she couldn't really get out of so she was like whatever I can do to wrap these up in the best way and make sure that like nothing negative happens I'm going to so one of these things she agreed to do an interview with Antoine Duan on his French TV show but I think based on the way that the contract was written she didn't actually have to bring Peggy so she didn't she was like I'm going solo I'm not bringing Peggy I'm mostly going to talk about because Jane and Simon have a whole business is talking about and keeping paranormal entities and haunted items in their home so she was

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like primarily going to speak about other things not Peggy but she gets there and I have a couple photos that I'm going to show throughout all of this but she gets on to the couch with Antoine and Antoine surprises Jane by throwing up a massive photo of Peggy on screen and there's a photo we'll put in right here and once again Antoine similar to Zach starts to ask all these questions about Peggy and as he's doing so he is swarmed by flies again again

Fly swarms and live streaming

Sabrina are you not nervous that there were a few flies around you last episode is that are we just breezing past it I'm not because well we can show the the video now this is the because this is now the second time that this has happened when someone is asking about Peggy they swarmed by flies inside with no explanation of how they got there

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just like when we were filming part one here's a slowed down video of a fly swarming my face here's why I'm not nervous Karen I know where those flies came from I live in a very like tree space I had the door wide open and windows wide open you had bread Rising I did have bread Rising I had yeast I know where they came from and it wasn't like sudden they were kind of flying around and then at that point they kind of came around me but no I'm not worried if they came to me right now if I was swarmed by flies at this very moment I would stop the recording and I'd say we are not allowed to post this anywhere I would agree with you 100% but no flies knock on wood there's actually a photo too of um Antoine having the Flies swarming him but Jane is like this is so weird because it's the second time that she's doing a TV show that people are asking questions about Peggy and they are out

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of nowhere flooded by flies swarmed with flies she does that that's kind of the only thing that happens I don't think there's any many other reports then there's one other event that she had previously agreed to and it's called spook UK and she was in this one supposed to and had agreed to bring Peggy to this building and I think it was also similar to like the derby jail it was a haunted building that they were going to bring Peggy into and people were going to have like 10 minutes with Peggy and be able to interact with her they were like okay we just need to take every precaution possible we need to have every attendee signed at a disclosure and it happened on May 14th 2016 the entire event was live streamed so people went into a room with Peggy for 10 minutes at a time and it was live streamed like you can see this you can watch it I think so were they alone or like everyone went in for 10 minutes oh no alone you Grace the people somewhere alone

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someone in pairs people reported feeling touched there were orbs that appeared around in the room and you can see like I think there is footage where like you see the orbs a lot of people reported the energy shifting in the room but oddly enough activity in the rest of the building was dead quiet well there's the proof right there Ultra concentrated and you know what it reminds me of what well it also reminds me of because so this building that they filmed in was notoriously haunted like one of the most haunted buildings it reminds me of both The Conjuring house and of Waverly Hills Hills where the spirits Running Scared yeah if you bring in something scarier than what already haunts those spirits will run for their lives for their after lives yeah jeez because

Peggy's new permanent home

everyone reported feeling some dark energy being present and it was around this time

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after everything that had happened you know this was kind of the last event that Jane had agreed to before the deadly possessions episode had aired and she was like I don't want to agree to any anything else Jane and Simon start to wonder if having Peggy in their possession is a smart thing to do they have two young children they clearly can't get to the bottom of what is haunting they've got mixed reports they've tried to kind of help her and guide her they've tried to understand this negative energy they've tried to clear the negative energy they can't they are now like maybe we need to look for another home for Peggy and it's just so happens that somebody was looking to adopt a haunted doll at the exact time oh oh that Jane and Simon are thinking this and having these concerns they get an email from none other than Zack bins and he's like hey does Peggy want a

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new daddy did he actually say it like that no no no no after everything was agreed upon there were like a ton of tabloid uh like headlines articles headlines yes headlines that said like Peggy gets a new Daddy and it Z so wow oh oh wow Zach after being swarmed he's still intrigued enough to be like yes come back to me and have a permanent residence with me yes and apparently Zach knew that Jane would be like you know a bit reserved and concerned Jane was like I need to make sure that Peggy is going somewhere safe that she's not being like aggravated so again similar to how she had made all these precautions and boundaries and guidelines with Olivia which went to the [ __ ] anyway but she had all these

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like requests demands and she basically one of them was that Jane had to have constant updates and be able to visit Peggy at any time and Zach was like I'm going to give Peggy her own room in my museum and there are a bunch of other conditions that I I think have been kept private between the two of them I don't know what it is but basically they made an agreement and Peggy was adopted okay so Jane sent Peggy and some of Peggy's belongings that Jane had like kind of collected over the time with her to Zach and to this day Peggy remains at Zack Bean's haunted Museum in Las Vegas Nevada which is where you and I are going to go visit her in a couple weeks we're taking like the earliest flight in so we can go see Miss Peg and then go to Rainforest Cafe that was my request yours yours was the music Museum mine was reinfor C yes basically encounters with Peggy have

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not ended Peggy is still out in the world people still see and experience things when looking at photos of her I

More scary listener accounts

did want to read and to conclude this episode before you read a listener story I wanted to read a couple other encounters and witness testimonials that Jane has recorded in her book and a reminder if you want to read more because I mean I I feel like I did a pretty good job of covering everything about Peggy but the book that Jane Harris wrote It's called Peggy the doll a very different haunting by Jane Harris highly recommend it okay I read it in like a couple hours cuz it's just so intriguing so I'm going to read a couple encounters from other people from other Witnesses and this is one from Tiffany it's dated December 2nd 2015 and and it says Peggy I had another dream it

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started off with me floating in front of a screen and then literally being sucked into the photo of Peggy on the screen I was frightened I was being drawn into Peggy but then the scene changed and in it I saw things from a third person's view there was a lovely woman known by the name Peggy an she was walking with a young lad of maybe 13 or 14 wearing gray wool clothes he had light colored hair blonde perhaps and he had a hat on his head the conversation between the two was sad Peggy was bringing her son to a train station and he was going to be leaving her for something mandatory I watched them walk and then something changed and Peggy stumbled her son noticed and remarked about something and Peggy said people think I'm crazy she sadly looked at her son who had a lot of animosity towards her for that and then the sound went black and I heard a loud set of breaks the very dissin sound of a train stopping and a

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medium pitch train whistle it was very Vivid I could almost see every thread of her clothes I think maybe there was an accident involving the train Peggy saw something and maybe needs her story to be known from Tiffany people are getting images in like moments from Peggy's Life by looking at her right and that's what is confusing me because there's like there's these moments where it feels good and it feels misunderstood and it feels sad and then there are moments that feel absolutely terrifying and taunting and it's like are there these two spirits and Peggy is just unfortunately the one that's trapped and there's a much darker presence it's responsible for all the bad or is this a trick well okay that story kind of makes me wonder if what if Peggy was a psychic in her life she interesting because the way that like she stumbled and almost like had like a vision of something and looked at her son sadly what if Peggy

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was a psychic in her life and she was getting all of these messages and had this like dark entity following her when she passed away she became attached to this doll but because this darker Spirit was attached to her in life it's also attached to her in the afterlife in death oh this I feel like we've mentioned so many spooky movies in case this episode but this feels Allah Insidious right it's like there's something that's following you in life and then in the astrop plane like just wherever you are it comes for you it lingers well another story this is from a woman named Mila in the UK in 2016 and she said I went online to see Peggy and suddenly felt a tightening in my chest and a pressure like I couldn't breathe then I felt a sharp pain and I noticed I had been scratched this is what I don't like I

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don't like when it the Paranormal crosses over in the negative way where it's like you do feel a scratch and you see the scratch or you do feel being strangled and you are strangled I'm fine with like a warm feeling like a warm embrace or someone putting your clothes away for you after you folded your laundry like that I'm I'm good for it's the other stuff that just really freaks me out but I guess we can't pick and choose can we what about being

Viewer health crises reported

bit what that happened to someone mhm this is a story from Laura relating to her sister Mary I thought I'd let you know that my sister watched Zach beIN with Peggy and a bite mark appeared on her arm I looked at Peggy and I felt fine but I saw my sister get this Mark out of nowhere it's suddenly appeared I got my Ouija board out and it literally spelled out Peggy's name when I asked who bit her my board went crazy it was going around so fast my hands came off

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the planchet I have never seen my board behave like this before since getting the bite mark my sister has had the flu she felt like she had a headache but was fine before seeing Peggy and then the day after couldn't even lift her head what the heck what the heck I don't understand there's so many like physical and really dramatic ailments that comes with this dog oh I know this is the last one I will read and it's Jane writes in her book that of all the reports that she received this one stands out the most disturbing because it was so eerily similar to what Jane had started to experience when Peggy first came into their home on December 26 2016 Jane received the following email hi I have to tell you about what I experienced after watching what I at first thought was just another haunted doll video with your doll Peggy I have had paranormal experiences since I was a child I'm sensitive to things but I'm

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not a psychic or a medium after watching the video almost straight away I was aware that the atmosphere in my home had changed and despite sitting next to a warm radiator I could feel a cold chill and feel a presence as if someone was standing behind me ice machine just gurgled I was like is your mom standing behind you the way you looked back I had an uneasy feeling over me for the rest of the evening and when I went to bed is when truly disturbing things happened as I lay in bed I could hear someone moving around my room and when I turned my back I could feel a cold breeze on my face and I was terrified every time I started to fall asleep I began having terrible visions of a woman dressed in black with a glowing white face and black eyes I remember dreaming and in the corner of every dream there she was I woke during the night screaming much to the horror of my poor

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husband and after this when I woke I was aware that there was a very dark presence in my bedroom standing just next to the door I couldn't sleep all night I was having terrible visions that lasted continuously in the morning I got dressed and left my house as I could still feel the dread and was looking over my shoulder I just wanted to get out I had been out of the house all day

The power of digital ghosts

now but still feel very anxious and am dreading tonight I've been scared of only one Apparition before but this is different it is standing in the dark and is terrifying me I saw the video on YouTube top five and had no idea what I was watching or the reputation of the video and I was just hoping you can give me some reassurance that I'm not crazy I'm shocked that the video has a power to do this and I'm hoping you can put my mind at ease thank you Paula see this is it is so interesting that you don't have to physically be with something to

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be afflicted by its energy looking at a video looking at a photo sometimes just thinking about something will conjure all of its energy to you and that I feel like you know how certain psychics they'll be like oh we can talk over the phone or I can just you know pet psychics too will be like just show me a picture of your pet and so many people are like how does that work you know if you're not actually with them but it it literally works with the spirits themselves two people so why couldn't it work the other way as well but kind of reminds me a little bit of Billy the idol wait your audio just was so weird suddenly I'm Catholic again please Lord protect me my mom has like crosses and So Many religious things all over her house oh my gosh I saw a video on Tik Tok the other day where Someone caught on their home security that they have pointed at their living room and like their front door

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mhm someone was home alone and she just like felt something and felt kind of like a presence in a coldness and she got up and she calls her husband and she's like I feel weird or like I think I saw something like you should come home and then she hears behind her like a like a scraping on the wall and she turns around and the cross is upside down and she screams and she runs run out of the house on the video cuz she only saw it now upside down and heard something but on the actual video you can see the cross going oh my God and flipping upside down I just got chills so freaky okay well that's Peggy the doll and clearly something dark is attached to Peggy Peggy we hope you have ease of the rest of your life and that you can be separated from the darkness you're associated with and we'll see you soon and we'll see you soon I'll have my

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souvenir cup from Rainforest Cafe I'll be ready to go oh man okay what do you have for us I have a doll related episode because or a

Mariah's haunted basement story

doll related story because I felt like that was most appropriate okay I love it this is from Mariah I believe is how I pronounce the name okay hey girlies backstory about 5 years ago my parents sister and I moved into a rental house when we first went to the house to tore it to see if we liked it we found a little male doll tied to a little cross in basically the Boiler Room which is a concrete room attached to the only bedroom in the basement I don't like that I don't know if this has anything to do with the experience in the house or not well I certainly think it does yeah red flag my mom my sister and I believe in the parent normal but my dad does not through the first year of living here we knew that we had a Ghost

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in This House there were little knocks here and there along with other little events me and my sister were always trying to communicate but nothing really big happened my sister and I share the basement as the bedroom but not the back bedroom where we found that little doll because honestly it freaked us out so we always kept the bedroom door shut and we just used it as storage one night my little sister decided to share a bed with me yes this is important in the middle of the night I woke up I sat up and for some reason something was telling me to look back at that back bedroom when I glanced over I saw this man now I could tell it was a man because there was a body arms legs but everything was black almost like a black shadow but with a human shape and no distinct features he was wearing a long black trench coat with a black top hat as as well pacing back and forth he was mumbling to himself but I couldn't tell what he was saying all I could tell was

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that he was very angry I blinked a few times thinking maybe this was a dream or I was experiencing astral projection after I blinked he stopped pacing he looked over at me and he clearly said I'm going to kill you my God at that moment I looked over to see if my sister was awake and was seeing this as well but when I looked over she was sleeping right beside me without looking back over I turned around I pulled my sister close to me and I tried to go back to sleep the next day I told my sister about it and asked if she remembered it she was totally freaked out said no she did not experience that but I still to this day do not know what that was or what it wanted but I'm just glad I'm still alive I have many more stories about this house I'd love to share them thank you for the podcast Mariah what the heck Mariah I feel like this has to be

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somehow associated with that little doll I don't know if it's the doll's fault and that it's attached to the spirit or if there already was this darkness in the house and someone else tried to do some sort of like religious thing in the Boiler Room to try to protect it feeling like it was all coming from that spot but there's something clearly and it's dark and it's angry and it's evil and it doesn't want anyone else want to share the basement with it I also really want to know the rest of Mariah's experiences in that house because I feel like something like this getting a whole picture can help us theorize more because we're never going to know but like what are the other hauntings are they all dark and scary or are there some good ones because if it's all dark and scary like I 100% believe it's all Associated to that doll like the way that it's tied to a cross and just left there that is deliberate that's true that's true it's like the doll needs to be as close as it possibly can to being cleansed or protected or or whatever by that

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religion and the people who moved out were like we are not bringing this with us we are leaving this here yeah cuz normally people take their crosses and stuff with them they take their religious items there were plenty of normally people take their haunted dolls with them or they sell them on eBay or they just put them in the trash and wait for the next person to find them it also just makes me wonder how many haunted dolls there are out here in the world like Peggy that just don't get notori notoriety like Peggy like this doll that just left in the boiler room it's not public you know this is something that we're hearing now but this is also the beginning of how Peggy started it was this one woman JW yeah for anonymity purposes who found Jane and Simon and were like please help me and then the story took off I mean I feel like it's the same reason why when people are like do you feel like you'll ever run out of ghost stories and we're like we probably could never like I don't see how we ever

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could because so many people are sitting on ghost stories that have yet to be even discovered and then there's so many stories out there that for research purposes like we'll never get to everything even in our own home States you know like if we had 10 years or 30 years to cover every single haunted thing that's ever happened in like our County we wouldn't get there there's so much well also think about how many people are in the world right now uh 8.1 billion wow so then think about how many people have died in the history of existence I'm sure maybe not every single one of them is a ghost but that a good fraction of them has probably left behind some type of Haunting my mind starts are really real when it comes to the idea of reincarnation and if it's like our entire soul can't be split and so our entire soul has to to go on to the next person but our population is increasing it's like were all those Souls already existing or are we split

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off or are there just a ton like in the waiting areas or like how does this happen are new ones being produced by something are we all just in a simulation here and we're just code we

Universal souls and closing

might all be code because I semicolon semicolon sem semic I kind of feel like I've recently been interested in this theory that we are all the collective Universal Soul Spirit energy and we kind of like we're all a chip of Consciousness yeah Universal Consciousness and then the reason that you feel so connected to some people in this current life is because their soul was a part of yours in a past life in addition to like maybe them being a part of your past lives but like if your soul does split up that like Ken you and I our souls were one that's why we have one brain cell in a previous life and

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now we're like splitting up to to tackle the world together yeah oh gosh it is just so weird it's also we we kept saying when we were in our travels so far on tour that it's so wild how much you can pick up on energy as a human because we get off a plane and we'll have great Vibes or something or we'll hug someone and we'll be like there's whoa they're experiencing some sort of paranormal or like someone's vibrating so high or there's a a venue that feels really like weird and uncomfortable or one that feels so warm and at home and we want to move in like it's so wild how immediately you can pick up on something and feel it and that you and I always pick up on the exact same thing so it's not like yeah at least in in this tour we have so it's not it's not like we're making it up right like we immediately are both like all right this is great great or this is negative I got bad vibes from here yeah let's get out of here well I think we are inevitably tapping into our our magical side of

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ourselves because of all this travel and all this interaction with people and I am glad that we're going to see Peggy towards the end because then we won't be bringing the negative Spirit to so many people if it true comes with us I agree but if you're in uh what's the last Vegas Denver oh Denver if you're in Denver you're so baby Phoenix bring all of your bring all of your protection for us I do like the idea though that as we meet everyone we're basically being like charged by our listeners you know like all the good positive oh charges and like maybe that's why we're experiencing so much and we're feeling like we're getting a little bit closer to unlocking or just like tuning into our natural abilities it's our coven the coven thank you guys for coming and seeing us live if you've already come if you haven't we have a ton of shows ahead but the most

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important message we can give you right now is to go to our website two girls1 go.com to purchase the tickets because word on the street is there's some scammers out there and uh don't buy from them just buy from our website so that you can actually get a ticket that is not ridiculous in price like a normal ticket yeah also if you're coming to the three shows like leading up to Halloween I think it's Nashville New Orleans and Atlanta we're going to do costume contest so come dressed up in your spooky vest and we're going to give out a CO best costume at each of those shows I'm so excited for that oh we have a new member on our team we have a new producer Jamie welcome Jamie Jamie Jamie what did you get yourself into Jamie thank you to the rest of our team thank you to all of you thank you for listening we love you all and we will see you on the other

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side very spooky