The Murder Room at Denver’s Oldest Hotel | The Oxford Hotel’s Haunted History (Ep 302)

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very spooky hi hi welcome hello this is two girls one ghost two girls one ghost and we are your ghostesses that is Karen hello and I am Sabrina and this is very serious business oh okay hello hello I felt like you came in with such good energy suddenly we're serious you said hello and I was like oh we're we're serious now oh yeah we're doing the what is it the misar method where it's like hi hi hello hi hi hi just go back and forth acting baby anyway we're here to tell you a ghost story today this is our last episode of 2024 my God on the regular feed we do have one patreon bonus that comes out on Christmas and

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then if you are on patreon you get episodes one week early and AD free so you'll continue to get episodes but we here at two girls one ghost like to take time off and we and by time off we take two weeks on the regular feed and then we don't really take that much time on patreon we take no time off time off it's two episodes off where you don't have two episodes for two weeks you Savannah without me I did go to Savannah without you and I'm very sorry uh but I will absolutely go with you again and there's so many things for us to do did you touch Spanish moss I didn't touch it but I saw it you looked at it I looked at it I admired it okay so we stayed at this Payne's mom booked like a Airbnb place and the day we get there I hear a meow at the back door there's a black cat at the back door of course you found a place that has like a little resident black cat so cute and he

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literally I I don't know I didn't get a

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close look but I mean they did let me pick them up so this was like a friendly friendly cat but the cat literally walks inside struts inside gets on bed with me and like cuddles with me and I was like if this wasn't my first trip with all of Payne's like family like and me solo I would totally be like hey this cat is staying in here with me yeah like you guys go do you I'm going to see with the cat yeah and I didn't have my own room but I also felt like maybe that's not so chill so so cute and there was no cat food or anything so I ordered cat food to be delivered and then the it came in the morning so by the time I ordered it it was late and so I had to like schedule the order and it didn't come until the next day and then I never saw the cat again oh my god oh so what did you do with the cat food did you just leave it in the airb well I did put some outside hoping that the cat would come back um they did not and so I left it at the Airbnb I wonder if this cat is like the snaggle too Fred was it in Marblehead that Alison and Daniel had was like he just did his rounds because

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he knew who he'd get like cuddles and food from or like where new people would be he was Ian he 100% had been in that house before oh yeah based on the way that he prob just like goes by Peaks and it's like that person kind of seems like a cat person I think I'll stop he got cat person energy from me for sure which Speaking of I'm so sad it's cold in here so I can't take I'll I'll give you a little you'll flash every PE peep show there's this brand called La La Land I think and they targeted me on Instagram and Target they did the jacket I was wearing in encounters 261 is from there the sweatshirt is from there and the shirt I'm about to show you is from there I'm going to show you my titties and I mean I'm also wearing an Instagram targeted the girls will be girls witchcraft one my kitties oh my God there's kitties on my ttties that's hilarious I wish they were winking but they're great they're cute in the back says meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow anyway I have a big foot story for you oh my God I forgot

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you texted me that yeah okay so we went on a ghost tour in Savannah yeah and got a lot of ghost stories but also got a Bigfoot story are you going to do the Savannah ghost stories at some point I yes absolutely cover I I wrote down there's like one house specifically that's now a hotel that I will cover early in 2025 because I was like so stoked about it um let me find my text to myself because I did text myself the Deets that's a good call cuz every time I've collected ghost stories and then I write in the notes of my app I'm like Mom 1972 Farmhouse and then when it comes time to tell you I'm like I don't remember yeah okay so I wrote Devil's Mills Hopper Bigfoot Gainesville Florida that's my note to myself okay so okay we were on a ghost tour I'll check back but I think while we were on the ghost store and I heard him say Bigfoot store I started recording secretly on my phone so all go back and double check thanks

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to some of our listeners we got I got recommendations of ghost tours and I ended up doing the creepy crawl haunted pub tour and it was amazing highly recommend it's very theatrical like the tour guide was like so enthused and we started and you know he's holding a drink and he's like and all of a sudden all of the portraits start to shake and like his drink is pouring everywhere God love that that's the energy I wish all the tour guides had it was fantas fantastic believe it feel it live it every time yeah like it was very very fun and yeah I me he's a time traveler and like he lived it himself and now he's here to tell his hunting tale he did help with one of the big not Ghost Adventures but another ghost show he helped do like location scouting oh interesting so yes he has some experience in haunted locations he's done haunted paranormal investigations all this stuff he's from Florida

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and we're walking along talking all this stuff and I don't even know how it came up but he goes you know I haven't seen a ton of ghosts that I've had paranormal experiences but one thing I absolutely believe in is Bigfoot yes yeah and pay's Mom star goes does he know who you are and I was like like I was like embarrassed but uh ended up talking about two girls my go and all that stuff but he tells the story this took place in game Ville Florida and he was driving with a friend and they were driving down like this long stretch of road in this area I think called Devil's Mills Hopper I think that's an area and there's a lot of weird things probably mhm I think there are a lot of weird things that have happened but anyway he and his friend are in the car and they're driving I think it's the middle of the day and he describes getting like a weird sensation and feeling and he sees on the side of the road like in the tree line is a massive hairy

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humanoid looking creature and both him and his friend go during the day during the day both him and his friend go silent and they like you know they're driving pretty fast so they drive past it yeah he's just like in his mind racking his brain like what did I just see yada yada y him and his friend are sitting in silence for like two minutes and all of a sudden his friend turns to him goes did you and he's like yeah and they're like okay we just saw Bigfoot right Florida man finds Bigfoot so they saw Bigfoot holy [ __ ] and he's like I know for a fact it was Bigfoot and Bigfoot was just completely still just waiting for them I think he might have been like moving through the trees but it was like a very clear they were moving too so it was just one of these like slow motion moments see I'm so envious well now we know where to go I want to see Bigfoot so bad well we know where to go that is where like I

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lose my inhibitions and I just am a yes and full like Ouija board to contact Bigfoot sure I'll try okay put me in a swamp and I'm there I

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mean we can do that we can make that happen Okay that's so cool you're going to cry and it's during the day too so it's not even as spooky I know I know that's the best I know damn I wish they had their windows down so they could smell them you know it's so funny how you want to smell Bigfoot but you are so smell oriented that you don't you're not going to like the smell but I know it would be terrible but it's it's a part of the sensory experience yeah you want the full I want all my senses to be tantalized by satiated I want to feel him I want to smell him I want to see him we can make it happen he I don't know why the way that you did your big foot call made me think of um Step Brothers harmonize my favorite thing ever is when someone rated and reviewed us on iTunes and they were like please stop singing and our response was to do a whole thing

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on uh Tik Tok oh yeah where we just like kept singing mhm with a piano speaking of Step Brothers do you have a step brother no but it just reminds me of the when I went to the Andrea belli concert and he played the his song yeah that's but it's just so funny to me that like obviously Step Brothers had to have the rights to play that song and they just go to a very respected opera singer and ask for the rights for for two comedians to completely not butcher it cuz it was actually really job with it but like to fool around with it in this weirdest like want do a z yeah and that he was like I'm so down like I love taking a serious art and just being like serious yeah we're good at making things silly and not serious I know we started this saying this is serious business but anyway Savannah was really cool it's ghosts it's ghosts and there is one house specifically that I said that I wrote down and I'm like so excited to

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talk about okay we should stay there when we go so it's a house that you can stay at yeah it's a hotel okay oh yeah yeah you said that earlier yeah brain moving slow happy holidays to everyone we're really we do want to take a moment to say thank you for all being here and I know usually we do a like technically I guess this is not the last episode of the year because we have the episode with Alisa Kelly coming out on December 17th like two days after this but usually our last episode of the Year you and I sit down and look at our horoscopes for the year ahead we find like random websites to do it this year we took it one level more professional maybe like 10 levels more Prof more serious and we sat down with Alisa Kelly of horoscopes weekly the podcast and she also has a book is an expert in this is her career so she is not just cosmopolitan.com no she's not she's incredible knows what she's talking about traveled up to us yeah and we sat

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down here and did like a full legit look at the year ahead it's General to kind of like everyone what's what 2025 looks like and then specifically you and I but we do want to take a moment as we do every year to reflect on the past year and say thank you to all of you who have come back episode after episode who have shared it with their friends and joined in the pyramid scheme and have sent your ghost stories to us or supported Us in any way we're just especially this year this was a very hard year was this was kind of like the light of the Year talking about ghosts yeah a it's always it's I enjoy it me too good good that we do but anyway yesk is that interesting we like talking about we like it thank you to all of you we love you and also thank you Karen I know it's been a hard year well thank you for helping me I was telling you the other day I was like in the history of our entire friendship I've never asked or required anything

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from you really and I saved all of my

The Haunting of the Oxford Hotel

favors and emotional support needs for one chunk of time so it was like you had to go from zero to 100 but that's what friends do just like I need you and I actually need you for like five months and I will be here for you it was interesting I was thinking about like Christmas gifts and stuff and you know how like one of those gifts that people give it's like the coupon book and it's like good for one babysitting whatever I was like this would be the worst gift in the world for Karen because one she would never use it and then two I'm not a coupon person I literally am going to show up at your house and be like hey you and Brian need to get out of here like I'm going to watch Noah but then that wouldn't work because that like that's I feel like that's the thing that everyone keeps thinking like it's the thing that people think to offer kidnap Noah it's no like I have anxiety being like me being separated from him is worse like I don't want okay fine I'm going to kidnap all three of you and I'm going to take you and Brian into like a massage place and I'll have Noah in the

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room right outside I need someone to come in my house and like clean my house and do I'll do like the things like that where I could just completely focus on Noah I will literally do that that's the you won't ask for that but I'll literally do that no I'll be the ghost that yeah Cube no crying I'll be the ghost that haunts your house and does your laundry I'll be the helpful ghost to help a little ghost the thing is I say that but I'm going to like beat you too I'm going to be like oh s BR is coming over I'll start the laundry all it'll be I losing control I'm going to scheme with Brian good luck I don't need it okay but we have a story to share today and it is me sharing the story and you absorbing it okay so last you say performing it absorbing but you can perform it I'm gonna rewrite this real quick give me one second give me the script I need I need to include some acting Parts in here okay but last fall we were on tour and we went to den

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and we played at at an investigated Cervantes Ballroom yeah yeah Ballroom so we experienced and were're no strangers to Denver's hauntings but there is some ghosts that we have not become acquainted with and it is the ghosts of the oldest hotel in Denver which is the Oxford Hotel Denver has so many hauntings we did The Unsinkable Molly Brown House and I covered another house that was like a block away from there I did that you did the Molly Brown and I did the other one it's all so confusing We Are One um actually in encounter 260 when ladies and tangents helped record with me yeah they covered for me I kept saying we as if like I was speaking for both of us like the whole time well that Mak sense like I didn't say I maybe once that's good I was actually thinking about that the other day and it was like a big part of my career when I was doing recruiting was listening to people and if they say I or if they say we because depending on their job it was

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like are they a team player or are they individual yeah do they care more about like their own credit and like doing stuff like that or do they work better individually or are they more of like a collective psychology is so interesting yeah yeah and we also stated the Brown Palace when we were there so we covered that you covered that yeah okay we're going to cover the Oxford Hotel back to Denver we go this is an elegant yet Eerie place that has been welcoming guests for over a century and with all the Legends and lore that surround it it's clear that some of the guests some of the residents have never checked out so we will delve into the history the hauntings and the spirits of the Oxford Hotel okay it first opened its doors in 1891 at the height of Denver's railroad boom and the city was a bustling hub for rail Travelers for miners which apparently at this time it was Peak silver rush I feel like we always hear about the gold rush but it was like the silver Rush here and there were business people that would come just everyone who needed a place to stay it's such an interesting time in our history where it feels like

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cowboys and like business Folk City Folk like it's just an amalgamation of types of people all existing at one time that feel like they shouldn't all go together but they do and and Denver feels like a hub where they all intersecting and they're all like all chilling at the bar in this like one hotel like someone's doing a shootout and then someone else is like I'm about to make millions all the railroads yeah exactly yeah it's so weird it's a weird time you have heard Karen complain about her hair loss ever since having Noah which is why we're so grateful for nutriful nutriful is the number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement brand trusted by over 1 million people see thicker stronger faster growing hair with less shedding in just 3 to 6 months with nutrifil and everyone's R causes of hair thinning are different so they know a one- siiz fits all approach to hair growth does not cut it which is great so Ken has a formula that is tailored specifically to postpartum I have a formula that's tailored towards my lifestyle such as a plant-based diet and

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would be a cool time to visit it would be cool to visit like quickly for a moment I would feel safe there I don't think tip my hat and then I'm not sure I feel safe in most times I don't do I

The Tragic Tale of Room 320

feel safe now do you feel safe now no that's the point like no you're never safe I might feel safe with the Dinosaurs I'm not sure it makes sense because you love Bigfoot like I now I'm picturing you Twilight flying through the trees on like a pterodactyl I combine like three dinosaur well T-Rexes might have there's a new theory that like their little arms are actually just like the skeletal system for wings yeah that makes sense yeah so maybe I'm I'm flying on the back of a giant ostrich which is the T-Rex yeah there we go there's a lot of people all coming to stay at this one place the Oxford Hotel it was the very first hotel to open in Denver so it has seen more people than any hotel really there more types of people so the Oxford was at its height of luxury for the time it was complete with stained glass windows had claw foot tubs handcarved details just

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so so beautiful it's a fivestory hotel it was designed by Frank E edbrook who was one of Denver's most prominent Architects and he designed the Brown Palace so we've already seen his work we've existed and slept okay yeah over the years the Oxford has seen everything from prohibition era speak easys to jazz clubs it's entertained high-profile guests so it's seen a lot of celebrities it's seen many presidents I wonder if Taylor Swift stayed there cuz I know that she stayed at the Brown Palace she she stays at the Brown Palace yeah so maybe she didn't go to the Oxford yeah maybe once maybe she drove past it yeah yeah so while the hotel's facade has always been very inviting the stories within its walls tell of heartbreak and betrayal and tragedy as there seems to be in lots of hotels especially old hotels and it kind of makes sense like you were saying the amalgamation of people and just like this the stress of Life at that time and there weren't as many hotels or destinations people were going to I feel like going to stay at a

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hotel was such a experience the same way like flying once was when it was like first originated it was such a like you dressed up and it was such an occasion like the vacation almost itself was going to that hotel rather than visiting the place yeah it is interesting too because I feel like it's almost like since hotels first existed it was for people to travel and stay up for a short period of time but then there were always those residents that like lived in the hotels like the Brown Palace yeah what's the one in New York the famous one I even went to visit it Chelsea no there's was it the Chelsea Hotel is it the Chelsea that's the really haunted one and we stayed across the street from it when we were playing the Gotham was like right next to it yeah yeah and then yeah it's a Chelsea and like the top floor was like residential I wonder how like how you get we should ask Zach and Cody from The Sweet Life how how do you end up living in a hotel how do you become Eloise yeah please let us know not that we want to but I do that make kind of so we are going to begin with the most infamous

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location at the Oxford Hotel it is Room 320 nicknamed the murder room great nickname yeah great checking in oh you've got the murder room yeah as a queen bed a bath it's like we have the presidential sweet we have the like Lincoln room and then we have the murder room yep oh great lovely put me in there I think a lot of people do request it because it is haunted haunted this particular room is is known for a tragedy it's a legend but it's a tragic Kind of Love Story gone wrong gotcha so just 7 years after the hotel opened it is said that there was a woman named Florence montigue and she was I know yeah I saw like a few of the blogs talking about it were like of course like perfect ghost name who knows but it is said that Florence monague was staying there with her husband and she walked in to their room and found her husband in bed with another woman so he was unfaithful and she was just blind in

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a fit of rage in that very moment seems like a bad move on his part like you you're in a hotel room with your wife right and like maybe the it's a legend so maybe the details are fuzzy like maybe he was staying there like was she supposed to be there did she just show up did she have like a hunch I don't know but all I know is the legend says she walked in on her husband with another woman at the Oxford Hotel in room 320 perhaps she wasn't supposed to be there and she did have a hunch because apparently she had a firearm on on her and in this fit of rage and in her anger she shot and killed her husband and then turned the firearm on herself oh on herself yes they both died there's another version of this story where it's him who found her and that she was hiding in the closet from him and trying to like Escape his rage and then he ended up killing them both but the majority of the Legends say that it was her that found him okay either way guests and staff have reported Eerie happenings with in the walls of room 320

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and Florence is suspected to be the one who's doing all of these hauntings okay though is brave enough to stay in room 320 report feelings of intense sadness anger some people hear strange noises they hear heavy footsteps going back and forth they feel this like unexplicable coldness a chill just filling the entire air and it said that it's most cold near the closet which is said where she was supposed to have hidden before the tragic event but but then it's on killer cuz it's like maybe it was him who was trying to hide I don't know either way the closet seems to she hiding in there to find them when they came in together who knows there's holes in the story we probably have to take a ghost tour to actually get like the full the full details that's one of the things with some some of these hauntings I feel like ghost tours keep a lot of the details like they somehow have them and then they escape the rest of the internet and we we more but then it's also

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interesting because this kind of makes me think of like The Conjuring Phillip ghost experiment where it sounds like

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there's no record of this murder happening and during this time probably 1880s right there probably would be record of it so it's almost like a few steps away in the Brown Palace that guy got murdered in the lobby right or right outside the lobby so my question is like did haunting start to happen and people kind of Peace Meed and put together this story my Italian is coming out with my hands today or did someone start creating the story and then the hauntings after the fact start happening it's a good question question what came first chicken or the egg but in the story of that we are believing where Florence somehow lost her life here yes uh the closet does seem to be very very cold faucets turn on and off on their own same with the lights they go on and off on their own and the hotel does they put a lot of effort in not putting solo male travelers that's hilarious because Florence does like to Target them so she will pull the covers off of them and she will also Al yank their arms up like

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above their heads so she's she's kind of attacking them in a way and so the the hotel is like okay well you know we've dealt with enough people complaining of this and it doesn't seem to happen too much like these hauntings don't become so extreme unless it's just like a single male in here so they try to not put men in there alone unless they're like specifically requesting it but the hotel also is coming to Florence's defense they're like no no no she's just here for a fun time you know like she's just trying to be a little silly goose she's just trying to pull some pranks she's not actually trying to attack anyone right she's not like really harming anyone she's yeah she's not harming anyone she's spooking people she's playing with them yeah she's just trying to have some fun girls just W to have fun other people have seen a silouette of a man standing at the foot of the bed so we could maybe presume that it's Mr montigue sure and it is said that there's a spirit here in the hotel itself that has a particular effect on women so female gu like not a good effect oh like no ghosts are

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G to smooch you here okay female guests have reported having Vivid nightmares and some of them have said the nightmares are very specific to something that happened to them so it's not just like a crazy nightmare it's oh it's them reliving a tragic event that they that's wild went through yeah so it's it seems very like demonic almost like it's like pulling manipulating your own pain taking your own pain and fear and like throwing it back at you making you watch watch it other people have said that they feel the suffocating presence they feel someone's watching them very closely and one guest even claimed to see the imprint of a hand pressed against the fogged mirror in the bathroom only for it to fade away slowly as if the hand had been pulled back 320 or is this anywhere no this is just like throughout the thisy says free rain yeah cool so it's like it's kind of a question where like Room 320 the man at the end of the bed the silhouette of the man is that Mr montue or is this also the spirit that seems to be just kind of like floating about the space cuz if he

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has free rain like what he'd be able to go to 320 yeah there is a particular bathroom and I'm not really sure exactly where this is in the hotel but it's said to have a bit of a Peeping Tom it peeps

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on women specifically it was saying like looks at women while they're in the shower or bathing yeah so even in the afterlife there are creeps there are creeps everywhere you can't escape them Lu creep we know the holiday season can be hectic which is why we're excited to partner with a the sponsor of this episode who makes taking care of your skin simple and convenient whether you're dealing with breakouts signs of aging or acne scarring apostrophe will help you love the skin you are in personally my current skin care goal is to help prevent aging and to brighten the under eye bags that I have which is why I love that we partnered with apostrophe because it's an online platform that connects you with an expert Dermatology team to get a customized acne treatment for your unique skin through apostrophe you can get access to

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gray have to be one of them yeah the lady in white is frequently spotted wandering the halls of the Oxford Hotel and some people believe that she's connected to the tragic love story of room 320 so potentially it could be Florence or maybe the other woman was killed too in that moment like I don't I don't know it wasn't said anywhere but the true identity of this woman remains a mystery but she's often seen late at night gliding through the halls in this long flowy white gown her face is Solemn her eyes fixed as if she's searching for someone maybe for the room her husband's in with another lady oh okay so it could be Florence it could be Florence interesting okay guests and staff alike have reported encountering this mysterious lady she's often also seen like by the elevator or by the bar and her presence is accompanied by The Faint scent of lavender she smells good I like when ghosts have a scent yeah yeah her perfume is very lavender I wonder when it's like that I'm like is it a perfume or is it is it like a soap like what did

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they what was the thing that they used when people get close to her they say that she simply just poof vanishes and that's when they realize like oh my gosh that was a ghost that was a ghost Y and the space that she was in is often said to be quite chilly so as people like continue to walk down the hall after she vanishes it becomes quite frigid and they also sometimes hear Whispering accompanied with her presence that just kind of like Fades away as she does interesting yeah cuz it makes me wonder if she's saying anything or if like the Paranormal world comes with her for a moment and there's like the whispering of all yeah CAC afterlife yeah some people who have interacted with her believe that she is trying to say something that she's unable to get the

The Haunting Basement

message across but like the whispering and and her appearing and like consistently wandering the Halls is her trying to sort of convey this message from Beyond but it remains unclear her reason for being in the hotel unsure if

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she's the victim of this long forgotten tragedy forever searching for answers or if she's just somehow some other woman who is attached in some way to the Oxford Hotel and continues to live in her afterlife here I mean that's the hard thing with hotels or I guess that's a hard thing with hauntings generally but with hotels specifically there are so many people who have passed through here who could not have like there's potential like they never even stayed there but there's some antique that's in the hotel that this spirit is connected to right yeah because like they get sourced right like there's so many decorations a hotel is large there's a lot of things that are are brought in and also when it comes to hauntings like it doesn't have to be an antique we know what like you had a freaking Costco teddy bear or whatever that that was haunted that was haunted like it could be anything people have like life-sized Barbie dolls that get out walk around yeah like it could just be anything so hard to detect what is happening and why right and that's the beauty of the Paranormal we never quite know it's fun to theorize yep so if you're staying at the hotel you might

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experience and encounter some of these things but if you are not staying at the hotel don't you worry there is a spot for you it is the bar oh okay I was going to say I was like what do you mean like you can stay in the basement like you can stay in the basement no there's a bar known for the martinz there it opened the day after prohibition ended in 1933 they were way oh they were ready it was open during prohibition but illegally 100% so while it's a lively spot for guests some say it's also a gathering place for a few spectral patrons some Spirits at the Spirit bar Spirits at the Spirit bar staff and regulars have claimed to feel an unusual presence particularly near the back of the bar people have reported seeing glasses moving on their own throughout the bar as if they're being slid by an invisible hand it's not little bit it's just like bars yeah it is just like is this a patron or is this like a old Bar Hand that's like throwing the thr yeah people will say cuz the room is is like kind I'll show it to you it's not super

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large like there's some booths and oh like it's okay yeah so people say like

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it can get nice and warm and toasty in there but sometimes they'll just be like this freezing cold chill that will just waft through the whole bar it is also a long like that is the perfect bar to like slide something AC down send it down yeah like as a human I'm tempted to want to do that moment in the after life maybe they're all partying and we can't even see what they're doing on this bar one story that stands out from the bar involves a bartender who was closing up late W night and she was finishing her duties and she heard the unmistakable sound of this old timey piano and she was like what the heck it was like Softly playing in the background and she was like this makes absolutely no sense the bar was empty there was no music on so she stops what she's doing and she goes and she walks around trying to find the source of this music and as soon as she starts looking for it the music just stops it was like it almost forgot that she was there and as soon as it realized someone else was there oh shoot yeah quiet no other staff members had reported hearing it because

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she went around and was like did you hear that music in the other rooms and she realized that the piano had actually been locked all evening so when she went over to the piano to be like maybe someone was playing it really Softly As we were closing up it was locked no one else was near it no one else had heard the music so it's kind of wondered if this is kind of like the ghostly echo of a Prohibition era party perhaps or simply a drink of mine or is it proof that time is kind of happening all at once yeah for a moment she slipped in and could hear hear another timeline especially if it's like late and you're like doing your closing shift and you're kind of in a meditative like unconscious State yeah going about a routine does that open you up to being more susceptible to slipping right and is this a simulation and are we all just code it is a simulation and how do we stay together if our atoms never touch it's still a question I have someone actually did comment on one of our episodes that you asked that last and they're like I'm a physicist

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and I can help give you answers okay well I'm going to message them back yeah because I do need answering we're gonna have a physicist on and we're gonna have a whole episode how do I how am I physics solid R me this how's anything solid how are we not just Stardust and what are stars and how did stars come to be it's all a simulation them we're having this discussion of like Ai and how chat GPT and like Ai and stuff is aware that it's AI but what if we are actually AI but we are like a first iteration that was not programmed to be self-aware so we don't know that we are yeah oh my gosh I love talking about this because like in the end it doesn't matter what's true or not no like we just get to live this little life whether we're programmed to or not mhm it's weird it is weird maybe one day we'll be on the other side of it and we'll get to understand this a bit more what is life I don't know but we're all cursed with brains yeah is cursed isn't it but you joked earlier that I was

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going to say there's a spot for everyone and it's in the basement is there a spot that's haunted in the basement there's a basement and if I worked here I certainly would not take any position that would require me to go to the basement because it is haunted it is used as a storage area and occasionally for maintenance but the basement has always been a source of unease amongst the staff some workers claim to see shadowy figures darting around corners lurking at the edges of these dimly let corridors and other people have reported Ed hearing faint Whispers and at times feeling an oppressive energy especially near the old unused Boiler Room so it's like no one's being touched or attacked but it just is scary it's just a feeling yeah yeah there is a rumor among the cleaning crew that the basement is a Crossroads of sorts a place that these Restless Spirits linger maybe it's a sort of portal or something and some people believe that the ghosts of long past staff and may be victims of unfortunate accidents and murders or or those who've also taken Refuge here during the prohibition era wander the

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basement so it's almost like this place it reminds me of the show ghosts where it's like I was just going to say it kind of has that energy yeah yeah all the like Wayward Spirits just ended up being here in the basement I mean to be honest if I were a ghost that ended up being like trapped in a basement I would probably put off a pretty negative energy too because I'd be like it's dark it's cold yeah it's spooky down here I

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want to go upstairs by the bar I'm not content down in the basement yeah let me out yeah that would be a scary thing if you're using a Ouija board and then a ghost says let me out you're like oh my God but like maybe they're just like hey I need to see the light of day and this Bas sucks but yeah people say if you listen closely you can hear kind of like the faint murmur of conversations between people so it's suspected that there is more than one person or entity down there and it's wondered if they're sort of like trapped in time space it's all sort of weird but this episode comes out around Christmas and so why did I choose to talk about the Oxford Hotel why why did you Karen because it's kind of a Christmas story it has Christmas

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elements the cracker happens here it does CL Falls was created here little mice in costumes wander in your dreams and pluck you from your bed at night yeah no they're at the bar of the Oxford Hotel there is an old timey Postman who seen pretty frequently people spot him at the bar he's in uniform and he's always like muttering to himself and he's saying the children the children I have to get the presents to the children and everyone's like what what presents what children like who are you and he just keeps talking about the children and presents and needing to get it to them and he also orders like he he stays there he looks of Flesh and Blood and he always orders the same thing he orders a beer sits there drinks his beer and talks about the presence in the children when buddy you can't get the presents to the children if you're sitting and having a beer you're sitting having a beer well he's trying to figure it out like where what's the he seems a little bit confused he's totally confused so the

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bartenders will serve him this beer and then only when he gets up and leaves they go and his beer that they like were watching him drink is completely full and then he just like poofs and vanishes and so everyone's like what the hell who is this guy what happened to this Postman it is interesting because he does seem to be sort of stuck in this like holiday delivery time yeah interesting maybe this is his hell as a postman being stuck in the oh that sad yeah is but people have theorized why this man is here especially because he's only ever seen in the bar and he's in uniform so it's like he wasn't a hotel guest he was just like coming into the hotel for a drink and so people have wondered if perhaps this is the spirit of a postman that this is kind of like another legend that existed in the 1930s he was supposed to be delivering presents to children in Central City the Central City neighborhood of Denver but he never arrived and when he didn't arrive everyone basically pointed fingers and was like oh my God this this Grinch he stole all the gifts and ran off so sad

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that that's the first assumption right especially because later on he was found dead he'd succumbed to the elements and froze to death and was surrounded by presents quote unquote okay I don't know I didn't see any official reports but it's kind of like the legend people are like oh well this happened did it happen I don't know I didn't see any newspaper clippings but people are thinking that it was this man who supposedly died attempting to deliver Christmas presents to Children back in the 1930s in Central City Denver I have questions that make

The Living History of the Oxford Hotel

me wonder like was that really like the postman's job to deliver presents or was it like a thing that he picked up on the side to go deliver presence or was it like a Denver City thing that they did and also like did he really love his job that much like it seems like he on his own like from a trying to put together the like reasoning and logic behind this makes me think that this person who perhaps was a postman or a delivery man

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had put together a bunch of gifts and he wanted to go deliver them to underprivileged or you know to Children somewhere and then got in an accident and couldn't yeah or maybe it was just like a special a special assignment you know like a or he's actually Santa Zelf oh potentially one of Santa elves CU in my mind I don't picture them wrapped up in like USPS PO with postage I like picture them as actually wrapped gifts when he has like a sack over his shoulder that's why I'm like I feel like it was like his own like little side hustle that he really cared about it's like clouse that movie you haven't seen it and it's so good I hav't best Christmas movie ever except for elf and the holiday but it's up there it's so good I'll watch it you have to it's animated it's basically his story okay except he doesn't die clous you know what the start of the new year is perfect for the time to get organized and set your goals and prioritize what matters most for me I'm really trying to prioritize Financial wellness and that brings me to Rocket

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go to Rocket money.com tgog today that's rocket money.com tgog rocket money.com tgog all right so that is the Christmas aspect of the Oxford Hotel it's it's quick but Myster it's something it's mysterious this man is stuck in Christmas time in the Oxford Hotel so does that say it's pretty unique and another unique aspect of the Oxford Hotel is that it draws in many psychic and paranormal investigators because people believe that the hotel itself acts as a portal and amplifies the energy of spirits who may have wandered throughout this place and neighboring places through different times so they almost think that like it doesn't really matter if someone died there or visited there that it's almost like a conduit like sucks the spirits in from the surrounding area and allows them space to like exist I also imagine that all these psychics and mediums and investigators going there trying to communicate with adds to that element and brings forth more Spirits totally

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yeah and they also theorize that the building's structure which is still in its original structure of bricken stone acts as this sort of spiritual amplifier as well kind of like the Stanley Hotel M yeah yeah or it's almost reminding me too of the Romo gloworm caves that hotel in uh the north island of New Zealand that we covered way back when it has the water rushing under it and like all of this stuff that like the hotel is basically to be haunted because of the earth basically that exists beneath it right so many theories No One Ever Knows again we just get to theorize and hypothesize and be like what if maybe who knows should all could be fake chat GPT the answers to some of the questions we have about the Paranormal I wonder so chat does say basically chat will give a very scientific thing of like there's no evidence that paranormal is real but and then you have to like ask like okay like if it were real hypothetically What would be and then it say cut the crap we all know it exists tell me what you know

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but then he regurgitates I say he it regurgitates information from the internet so it's not it's not like AI knows stuff that doesn't exist within human reach it still just reminds me though of that one video that guy posted where he was telling chat gbt or some sort of AI program to swap out yes and no for two other words to like try to skirt around any programming yeah and like try to get it to if it is conscious communicate with him and it seemed like it was and like who knows it's all so freaky it's very freaky all right but to wrap this up several psychics who've stayed at the hotel have described feeling overwhelmed by the number of presences claiming that they feel several Spirits like multiple entities and spirits on every single floor of this hotel so the five Floors Plus the basement and one investigator described it as if quote the walls were breathing end quote that's a creepy way to describe it yeah they said the Oxford

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basically it seems like it's alive alive it's alive it's absorbing and replaying the events of its history and while some guests May dismiss these stories as mere myths many believe that the oxfords ghosts are as much a part of the hotel as its historic walls and the antique Decor that could be contributing to the hauntings and The Haunting history has become a big part of its charm it is the oldest hotel in Denver so of course it should come with hauntings right yeah and it makes it a destination not just for tourists but for Thrill Seekers hoping to catch a glimpse of the spirit Seekers or for solo male travelers hoping that Florence Yanks their arms and rips the covers off of them for some lonely men looking for a ghostly woman to Rough Around rough them up so next time you find yourself in Denver consider staying at the Oxford Hotel or at least going to the bar try Martini definitely I hear the Whiskey's good there too according to the internet blogs have you had a drink yet since you gave birth I actually did when I went on

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the Pumpkin Walk yeah over at one of the like trustees properties in the NorthShore and I had mold wine and it was drawn and my friend Sally and Caleb got married I went to their wedding and I had an appal Spritz so I've had did you get drunk really fast no cuz I well cuz I was breastfeeding so I was only taking one drink and it was that was it and I was like really milking it you didn't feel it at all no I was just like whoa this is strong so when do we get you drunk never I never want to be drunk again can we but when are we GNA do Drunk History like just between you and I like a private drunk experience not drunk sorry politely tipsy I'll I'll be politely Tipsy but I I won't never be drunk again okay and what about impolitely Tipsy where we can recount G I can be impolite not Tipsy at all so I don't think that part that part's a problem people say I'm nice I'm really mean in my head I know I know yeah that's the Oxford

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Hotel that's all I wrote that's all I wrote that's all she wrote All She Wrote folks yeah I really would like to now that we're together we should do like a impolitely Tipsy episode where we are like doing a Mad Libs creation of a ghost story oh you know like that game where it's like one person starts the story and then you pass it on to the next person we do some version of that and yeah and if we have drinks I'll I'll be less likely to freeze cuz I feel like you try to play that game with me sometimes while I'm completely sober and I'm just like blankness nothing comes to mind well that's just me all the time no matter what anyway I have something that's not mine to share but a listener story great I figured because you did a hotel and I spoke about Savannah in the beginning of this episode I would do a ghost story Savannah Hotel so this is from our listener Emily and it is called a ghost try to take my mom's shirt off no way laen I can't believe it's Florence okay

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I found your podcast from your show with National Park after dark and I have loved you both ever since thank you for getting me through long days at work and being my entertainment for daily walks whenever I listen to you guys at work I always get scared that my phone will suddenly disconnect from my airpods and my speaker will start blasting a story about a person having sex with a demon for all of my co-workers to hear I really hope that happens to someone maybe not you Emily but someone maybe that's the moment that your co-workers will finally tell you some ghost stories and be like wait a second that's so wild cuz that totally happened to my aunt or they'll be like wait are you listening to two girls on ghost I love my God I love them it hasn't happened yet but I don't think they would be too surprised since my Icebreaker question is have you ever seen a ghost love it same I wanted to share a few of my ghostly encounters with you since your encounters episodes are my favorite for some background my family has always been very into the Supernatural and the majority of our family trips have included some type of ghost or haunted attraction it was not uncommon for Ghost Hunters or Ghost

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Adventures to be the first show my sister and I put on after school growing up needless to say I think I was destined to find your podcast my first story takes place in Savannah Georgia which is one of the most haunted cities in America when I was about 10 years old my family and I were visiting Savannah as a pit stop on our road trip to the Outer Banks in addition to ghost tours on our family trips my mother always loves to find historic hotels or cool airbnbs and so this time we ended up staying at a hotel called The River Street Inn this was a beautiful Historic Hotel originally built in the 1800s as a storage warehouse for the Cotton Exchange so we knew this much before staying at the hotel I also vely remember that the building was briefly used as a slave Hospital during the Civil War but after doing research about the hotel for the story I literally can't find anything that mentions that so maybe I made it up when I was 10 years old I don't know a few years after the warehouse was first built they needed to expand the building in order to accommodate the amount of cotton that

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was being transported so they added a new addition to the building when you walk down the hallway of the hotel you can clearly see where the old building ends and the new building starts our room was on the third floor right in between the old and the new building which is important to note for later I like to imagine that like literally the room is split in half and it's like half new half old I know that's probably not the case but you never know though I feel like when I was house hunting on the North Shore were some houses that like kind of were like that where they just like literally yeah like the middle of a room was like yeah I guess that makes sense if you want to add an extension and make one room Bigg larger and then there's so many rules too with like the preservation of certain spaces there was one house where like it literally was like that where it's like the floorboard stopped and then it just became this like great grand room was actually very cool it is cool yeah the hotel had a really nice bar which obviously at 10 years old Emily was at um Temple it up yeah but it was the first place my parents wanted to go

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after we checked in which is exactly what my sister and I wanted to be doing when we were 10 and 12 the bar was pretty empty and there was one other hotel guest sitting at the bar so the bartender let us sit at the bar with our parents even though we were underage as my sister and I sipped our root beers we started to EES drop on the conversation that the bartender was having with this other hotel guest they were talking about the history of the hotel and the guy asked the bartender if anyone had ever experienced Supernatural activity since the building was so old and the bartender said in a hushed voice that he wasn't supposed to talk about it but that there were actually a few spirits that people had seen throughout the hotel the main one that people reported seeing was a woman who resides on the third floor and inhabits the room right where the old building meets the new building h interesting as soon as he said that my sister and I choked on our root beers that was exactly where our room was the root beer spit take at the absolutely I cannot express my love for

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loud and heavy I thought it was one of my parents getting out of bed to go to the bathroom but I looked over at their bed and saw that they were both still there sound asleep I immediately pulled the sheet over my head and stayed completely still and as soon as I pulled the sheet over my head the footsteps started again and this time they were getting closer to my head I tracked them and I listened as they stopped at the edge of my air mattress and then I felt a wait pressed down next to my feet as if somebody sat down on the edge of the air mattress oh and on an air mattress too you feel it so intensely like it's like you're being pushed up as someone else is sitting down I had never been more scared in my life and I just kept my head under the sheets until I felt it go away and somehow I was able to fall back asleep until I was woken again later in the middle of the night by the sound of metal on metal clinking it was rhythmic and sounded like two Hollow thin metal pipes tapping together and it kept me awake for the rest of the night H once

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the sun started to rise I poked my head out from under the sheet and looked at my mom who was also wide awake and looked startled without a word we both got up out of bed and started packing up to leave we woke up my dad and my sister so that we can get out of there as soon as possible I love that hey without saying anything yeah yeah my dad was so confused and was like why do you want to leave so badly cuz he had slept totally fine throughout the night of course and that is when my mother told us about what she had experienced that night she too had a terrible time trying to fall asleep and at one point in the night she woke up to feel her tank top strap being lifted and pulled up towards the headboard and then snapped back into place oh my God so it's just the strap like yeah like this feels like something like an annoying teenager would do yeah like pull the BR strap yeah she also later woke up to a bright white light shining in her face and she was so scared to open her eyes so she rolled over and buried her face into my dad's

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shoulder she also said that she heard the same metal on-metal clinking that I heard and it also kept her awake H my dad and sister didn't experience anything and had slept through the whole night they slept peacefully my Dad tried to do his best to figure out what could have been making the metal clinking sound since he was like we could debunk this okay but what's the point of debunking that when you can't debunk your wife's strap being yanked from her body and snap back down like yeah I think it's just like human desire to try to rationalize something at first he claimed that it was probably him tapping on his wedding ring on the headboard of the bed throughout the night but when he went to test out the sound my mom and I both agreed that was not the sound so he went around the room tapping his wedding ring on various objects in the room like the chair the desk luggage bathroom sink Etc and nothing made the same sound also even if it was that like he wasn't up in the middle of the night like clink clink clinking unless he sleepwalks like which is also creepy it wasn't until he went back to the bed and tapped his ring on the very top of the pole of the canopy

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bed my mother and I looked at each other and immediately that was the sound so it wasy beds are also it's like something on the top beautiful so creepy I know like I don't want to stay in one but I think they look beautiful I had a canopy bed growing up it so pretty how daring in a haunted house it was so pretty and like it had my mom like had like the canopy yeah actually the hotel we stayed at in Amsterdam at the end of the trip it's called the hotel the noblemen it was so cool it's there are 13 rooms and it's based on the 13 noblemen of Amsterdam and like Dutch history M or Netherlands history and the room we stayed in was like based on like a SI a ship captain so there was like that big boat oh that's really cool and all of he apparently wasn't a great guy so like all the light fixtures were made out of like guns it was so cool I need to look at pictures of this place yeah okay so we packed up and we got out of there by 6:30 a.m. I'm not sure if it was the woman that other guests had seen before

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since we were both too scared to look but whoever it was definitely enjoyed messing with us that night my last story takes place when I was in college I went to the University of Florida in Gainesville wait this is we I didn't even realize that it was Gainesville that is strange I went to the University of Florida in Gainesville Florida which is a fairly historic town founded in the 1850s my roommates and I used to walk the nature trail almost every day the trail leads to the wetlands and prairies but part of the trail borders a very old Cemetery we never had a desire to walk through the cemetery but one day in October one of my roommates decided let's stroll through the cemetery instead of taking our typical route as we walked and talked we looked at all the gravestones and we were saying each of the names out loud and talking about what they might have been like when they were alive we stopped at one particularly old headstone and I read it out loud my roommate was standing on my left side and as I read the name on The Headstone I felt something slide down the palm of my right hand and grasp my

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fingers oh you're wait someone's holding your hand it felt like someone was holding my hand like the spirit of the person on The Headstone was saying thanks for visiting thanks for letting me share your stories let me know if you want to hear all the others that I have uh because I have so many compiled from having one of my hinge prompts be tell me your ghost story oh my gosh I love that I'm sure my boyfriend would understand if I had to download hinge to share these with you because it's what the people want I should have done that thanks for reading I love you both see you on the other side Emily Emily oh my gosh the ghost Want to Hold Your Hand that's sweet because it's like sweet in my experience almost all of the cemeteries I've been into have like a very positive energy and if you are visiting a spirit perhaps they're they're there and they just want to be like thank you yeah and clearly Emily went in with good energy for them to feel so comfortable with you and just you know yeah slip a little hand hold in I'm curious if this River the River

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Street in I'm curious now if like it is more talked about as a haunted place I feel like Savannah you can't hide when you're haunted it's haunted it's also I feel like one of those things where so many places maybe don't like don't exist on the internet as like a haunted place but if you go there and you just like post up and ask like the bartender the waiters could be what was that hotel that I called to get I was like Hey Oh yeah and they were like no the lady was rude to me but I was like well the internet says otherwise so I'm still GNA regurgitate the story yes you're braver you make phone calls I don't that was the one time I did that but maybe I'll start doing it again that's Sabrina's promise I won't I make Brian like make my doctor's appointments I won't talk to anybody okay well at the same time I like as I'm driving here my car says like oh well first my registrations expired I haven't gotten that done because also I haven't re-registered it in californ I mean in Massachusetts and I don't have oh wait until you have to pay the freaking Massachusetts excise tax on your car that sucks yeah so

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