The Man in the Walls Is Watching | Spirit Guides, Ghostly Gifts & The Sallie House (x226)

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very spooky smack and snap and slap smack and snap and oh my God it's hard to get tuck back in there these couches are so comfortable the dimensions online lied it doesn't fit in our living room which is why we have extra pieces but I like it for our recording like this would be the perfect place to record all the time I know this is two RS one ghost two girls one ghost we are your ghostesses that's Karen hello I'm Sabrina and okay I teased you about this but now we actually need to talk about it yeah okay I feel like I can be skeptical when people do for me because I think it's a protection of myself it's like I don't want to buy in too much

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or believe too much right but our listener chrisy who we've talked about before and was the one who at the Nashville show what are you looking at oh there was just a man out there that was spending a little bit of time but I realized it was just a neighbor grabbing male the way he moved I was like is okay like is he waiting for like to get picked up it just seemed like a random spot to be on the road people watching this is a great spot to do it actually so christey is the listener who at the Nashville show emailed us and was like is K pregnant and we spoke about christe in episode 256 when you announced your pregnancy MH we were on campfire stories one night and Christy messaged us on Instagram and was like Sabrina there's someone coming through and like has a bunch of messages for you and was super excited wanted to share all this information with me Christy goes on to like send me all these voice notes of my Spirit guides my ancestors like completely Nails all of

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this information like my great-grandmother's name my grandmother's name my great great-grandfather's name and information about me information about my family information about my past information about my future information about my mom like so many things and basically I'll just tell you the conversation mhm that I had with my mom so she was telling me that she was like did your mom know that as a child she had gifts like in intuition and abilities and basically Christy was saying the summation of the message was that my Spirit guides and ancestors want to help me open up and that Christy can help me tap into my stuff my psychic abilities so cool so apparently my ancestor named Angelo and I don't know necessarily who this is probably on your mom's side sounds Itali it is all on my mom's side so this is all on my mom's side so Christy said she was getting the name Angelo

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and he is my spirit guide that in a past life I was Angelo's best friend named Samuel who died in Sammy and Angelo so cute and I apparently died in battle jeez oh my God in War of some kind and Angelo because I was his best friend in the past life has decided to become my spirit guide in this life because of that so I don't know how weird for Angelo to like see you living as a lady in like a this modern day cuz I don't know dying in battle it makes me think it was like at least 60 70 years ago like such a different world very different world Samuel and Sabrina wait you know what's also interesting a lot of people call me have accidentally called me Sam really my cousin's name is Samantha and I've mult this is this just came to me multiple people have called me Sam before and it's a weird like I've always just Associated no like people would be like Samantha right or like Sam right and I'm like no like Sabrina that's weird Sabrina that just hit me that's really weird

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can I start calling you Sam no that's weird that's weird I'm Karen and this is Sam from the past life two girls and one ghost one ghost this is Sabrina and Sam two in one but anyway so I'm curious about that but in this message Christy was saying that my mom growing up had abilities and that she used to complain so this is where I end up talking to my mom so that my mom as a kid used to complain about like body parts hurting like her hand or her finger and that she would tell my grandma like my finger really hurts and my grandma would be like okay well there's like no reason for your finger to be hurting and then my grandpa came home would come home and whatever ailment my mom had been talking about my grandfather would come home and have had some type of accident at work or hurt himself at work with that exact same body part siram was so connected to her dad right so I called my mom on the way here and I was asking her about it and my mom was like I don't remember

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that I don't like have memory of that specifically she's like my throat used to always heard as a kid but then she's like but it is interesting that you bring up finger and hand because my grandfather apparently really badly hurt his finger and hand at work like he chopped off a piece of his finger at work he was a chemist and came home and like had to for weeks apparently like keep his hand above like for blood flow purposes and she's like it's weird that you brought up that specifically yeah so I don't know what that means necessarily what else did we talk about uh oh and then christe was just sharing all this information with me about my loved ones and that apparently in a couple years I'm going to write a book that becomes a big deal and that my brother is going to be having a kid at the same time that I my book is being published what's your book about well I didn't ask but I already have like I have books I mean I'm going Europe I'm writing a book

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this summer so yeah it also made me wonder like if the book was more of like an autobiography or if it's going to be one of your fictional pieces I will never write an autobiography ever yeah but you've talked about like investigating family history which is kind of autobiographical sure but I think I've decided that cu the thing that I wanted to look into I just don't think it's safe to look into nor do I think there would be information so I was always thinking about writing a fictionalized version of my imagination of what would happen if I did investigate it is that where you're going to write this summer no okay actually I don't know yet I haven't decided yet but anyway maybe that would put you on the timeline for like once it gets published it would be a few years from now cuz the book publishing process something this summer so yeah I can't wait some book about something coming soon pre-order now um but it was really interesting just having talked to Christy about it and then being here in saying in Marblehead and doing my Oracle readings I've

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very much have been tapping into the ancestry line that she was saying was communicating to me that is so incredible it's just so wild cuz it's like I understand what you're saying about like the hesitancy because it's there's so many people that read things and you're like is that true is that not like I feel like there's a natural skepticism when it comes to people who can connect or say that they can connect yeah but then my God christe's been getting everything right this is the thing that she she like the strongest person we we know and this was the other thing that I think really really sealed the deal from me is when I was talking to my mom I was reading some of the messages cuz Christy sent voice notes and some text and she was like she was basically saying the woman coming through her name is Aurora which is my great grandmother's name my mom is named after her and that Aurora is the mother of my grandma and that she left Italy when she was 19 for New York and my mom was like exact my great-grandmother was 19 years old left

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Italy moved to New York 19 like spot-on I want to talk to christe I want to talk to her now I know do you think she can tap into everything I don't know should we phone a friend Christie chrisy how much do you know how much can you get access to past present future did she tell you anything about the future well the book and my brother oh yeah yeah and then she said that you and I are going to become even more sister-like during your pregnancy really yeah sister sister I was like I don't know if that's good news for Karen well I don't think I'd be in a position to copy you right now what do you mean to become more like alike no like just more sister oh oh yeah I was like I don't have as your Biz as much I can barely get off the couch right now like I'm not going to travel and explore the world like you no not us becoming alike but you and I just connecting and bonding even more and our Rel I'm like here's the new news about my nipple

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today feel like nipple news next up on nipple news here's how are they doing the newest check on nipp let's ask the nipples uh oh I Am leaking and I am hurting a and that's nipple news that's nipple news baby anyway so stay tuned for my journey I've really feel like Christy is helping me connect to my ancestors oh my gosh I want to know everything I know but does Christy do this as a career because if not like my God Christy is a uh I can't remember if she's a psychic medium or psychic or medium what I don't know which one she identifies as but she does practice she actually has this like whole group that they do zooms every Thursday she invited us to join I want to go let's go okay okay easy let's go this Thursday okay but she said that she believes that she was getting

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messages from my family line in order to help me start my journey where in your journey are you like very beginning did she think infant and this is you like tapping in and unlocking your I think so spiritual connection and potential I think so this feels right because you have been begging for signs from your ancestors I've been ignoring them too a lot yeah I know yeah but I'm I'm I'm I'm open CU it's like as soon as someone says oh your ancestors are here you're like I don't I don't believe you I don't believe you and then every other day you're like just show me a sign they're like what more do you want so they have to send Christy with very specific like hey you know someone who was born 150 years ago at age 19 here's what they did is this specific enough for you this is what I've been asking for I haven't been asking for much no I've been asking for a lot I am a brat I am a I am a brat to my guides I'm sorry I love you I'm listening I'm

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here sorry Angelo yeah oh well then so my mom and I were trying to figure out who Angelo is because Christy said it was either a brother or like an uncle figure to my mom but there's an Angelo that's still alive so I don't think it's him but I imagine like similar to how like my mom's named after her after her grandmother like there's a lot of being named after people yeah or could it be that Angela wasn't his name when he was in the lifetime related to your mom Angela was his name when it was Angelo and Sam together oh maybe like maybe a couple lives ago he was Angelo when you were Sam oh that's interesting I'm curious my mom and I was looking at like our family history so look let's see she just sent me maybe it's this Angelo I'm not going to say the last name not that it necessarily gives anything away but it probably doesn't make sense because now she's talking to herself yeah that probably doesn't she said maybe this and then resp I didn't respond she said maybe that doesn't probably make sense because she was born in 1912 and the oldest so that doesn't make

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sense Mom I don't know what she's saying anyway my mom's trying to help me figure out it's a mystery trying to figure it out wow oh my gosh and oh another thing she said so my great-grandfather so my bees Nana's husband I never met him his name was jockamo and Christy said that there was a jack coming through and when he moved to New York they changed his name to Jack really or they started calling him jack to be more Americanized oh this is so wild I know we need to figure out does Christy have like a website or something for people who want readings because I feel like this is this is like the opportunity for us to deliver Christy is a manifestation coach Ascension coach and healer I'll ask for a link if there's anything specifically so we'll ask we'll ask this is also just proof of how many incredibly powerful and in tune people there are in our Community I know

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like I was thinking about it the other day with like how many people get readings like even on campfire stories people will be like oh yeah I have like birdie and her team of like dragons and ghosts and like familiars familiars came and help me with this or that or like oh yeah I talked to Jason and he did this or lith P tarot for me and I'm like we have so many people who just are natural at this or have tapped into it and they everyone like shares together in the community too it's so great it's like oh yeah I'll do it reading anytime for you I feel like we have accidentally made a coven like I know there is a two girls one goes coven but I feel like people who don't even know that they're in it they're in a coven sometimes I'm just I'm shocked I also feel like people utilize it more than we do and we should utilize it more well I'm using I'm in yeah you're in I bought into our own pyramid scheme although I feel like I make people give me readings we get readings a lot yeah we do they're offered up and then we say oh yes yes please yes yes I want me

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want me like want wow also this is an encounters episode yes we don't normally share stories at the top but this was basically a ghost story it basically was yes yeah and I feel like we we did make a promise of 2024 was going to be a very spiritual year for us and tapping into that and I think this is my way of also holding myself accountable yeah and also I guess I'll give one really quick update I shared on campfire stories weeks ago that I thought my house was mad at me cuz it was popping and making a lot of noises yeah I've been nicer to it and I haven't heard any noises so is that proof I don't know I mean yes I yeah but but I'm like second guessing myself I'm like okay well the floors were predone maybe they were just like really loud and popping for those two weeks I don't know but now I'm being nice ni nice back I did honestly audibly yesterday thanked the Airbnb house that I'm staying in for allowing me to be a part of it and experience it and live within its walls and feel at home and then you're also trying to be like please let me

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buy you how do I live how do I purchase this home all right do you want to go first I feel like I was just talking for eight years do you want to go first okay sure let me let me W my what where does that phrase come from I don't know but it makes me feel like I'm a 90-year-old Grandpa and I like it I feel like you are a 90-year-old grandpa I am I can barely breathe too I'm like wheezing this is like a sleepover I know ha we're not used to being in personis clearly okay this

The terrifying Sally house

is called the Sally house oh I know it we know it yes I think we've covered it which is where I picked it oh I've heard of it I know in fact I think you might have done a whole episode on it like four years ago did it was it early days yeah and um last week on encounters we had a ton of emails from M's and Emma and Emily's and this is also from an Emma so Big M huh uh month for us

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I guess okay hi there I was introduced to your podcast through a former co-worker and it has become one of my favorite podcasts eventually it became my sister's favorite podcast as well and she refuses to listen to any others G to preface a story that I have I'm naturally pretty closed off to Spirits I'm pretty religious and I do a lot of praying before I go anywhere that might spook me or even pause to pray throughout however my sister and my mom have always been much more open my mom has stories about bad experiences with Ouija boards and apartment haunting and my sister consistently hears noises and sees shadow figures in her bedroom well it sounds like Emma's doing the right thing by praying cuz her mom and sister are having so many more experiences right like if she didn't she would be this yeah my sister consistently hears noises and sees shadow figures in her bedroom and her bedroom specifically has very strange energy throughout but she just calls it her ghosty friends my mom's theory is in fact that our pond is on top of an old pig farm and she

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thinks bodies were thrown in there for disposal human or Pig body I think human cuz pigs will eat anything yeah pigs will process metal I definitely was not a pig in a past life based on my gastro digestional system no but like you could throw a human body in there they eat with jewelry and like it none of it will be they won't poop out wow like it'll be gone it'll be processed wow anyways on to the story over spring break this year my mom took my sister one of her friends and myself to Colorado for what we called a spooky girls trip the main stop was the Stanley Hotel but we were also stopping in ainson Kansas to visit the Sally house as well and let me be the first to say the Sally house scared the [ __ ] out of me yeah to begin with aason was a very strange Vibe for tourists it was a Tuesday at around around 11:00 in the morning and there were no other

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cars on the streets no one in the restaurant Etc they don't have much to offer besides the Sally house and the university so that might be why but it still caught all of us off guard before our tour we stopped by Walmart to pick up some games to play in our hotel room that night even then it seemed like everyone was looking at us and they wouldn't take their eyes off of us that might just be all in my head though so on our tour it was at 12:00 it lasted an hour and we were all super excited it was a really pretty day and we were all in really good moods but as soon as we opened the door everyone's energy dropped I believe it the air inside felt insanely heavy and we powered through they leave a radio playing for Sally because apparently she likes it and she'll turn it on herself if they don't leave it on we explored the upstairs and I was taking pictures as we went along and eventually we ventured back downstairs to look in the basement although we couldn't go down which rre of sulfur not a good sign no it's not my mom took a picture of the basement and later found on the live version that you can watch shadow figure move up the screen

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this is a petition for everyone who's paranormal investigating which like remember when we had your basher in New Orleans and you and I spent like hours going through every single live photo that we took like desperately trying to look for and the one photo we got it in is not a live photo no but my phone automatically changed that like that was what was so weird about that experience it set to take live photos and we had a live photo that taken the same like second a second before a second after yeah crazy so weird anyways we went back upstairs and I started sitting in Sally's room with the toys in her room just to see if I could do anything to bother her I started playing the child's xylophone in her room and I was pretty obnoxious what are you doset is just so pretty it's not as pretty as I wanted it to be I was playing pretty obnoxiously and from downstairs we heard the radio start to get Extremely Loud Like double the volume from before and much louder than my horrific xylophone playing she's like stop playing the xylophone

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oh my God tune this out suddenly the door opened to Two Men and the radio turned all the way down again as The Story Goes Sally doesn't like men the best idea we could come up with was that she was warning us that men were coming up to try to protect us oh in another room we found a mini army man moved to a different angle than he was in the photo that I took even though it had only been us upstairs at another point in the room we heard my sister's friend saying ouch and we turned around to find a new scratch on her arm that had not been there before at around 1245 my mom and my sister started getting serious headaches so we decided to leave almost as soon as we exited the house their headaches went away I'll save you all the rest of the email since this one's already long enough but we didn't experience nearly as much at the Stanley Hotel the Sally house seriously was one of the scariest experiences of my life anyway thank thank y'all for making my work commutes and my trips to

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school so much more manageable it seriously makes a 6-hour drive to Kansas feel so short sending lots of love to y'all to Leia Ana kittens kittens see you on the other side Emma the Sally house is one of those places that I don't remember all the details from when we researched it but I remember enough to know that it is a very very negative house and I feel like it's one of those places that I feel like the negativity has been perpetuated people don't have good experiences in that house no it's hard too when you with any paranormal place like no one can control who's going in in the intentions that they're bringing in so it is hard when there's already kind of like a negative memory and negative energy to not have more of that manifest and I also like because I know that there's so many toys there it just makes me think of like a bad Toy Story like Sid next store his toys H well I definitely don't want to go to the house it doesn't really seem to have any

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redeeming qualities no I also love them em as like I don't experience things and when I do I just try to close myself off and yet goes on this spooky girls trip and like enters all these hugely famous paranormal places I guess that is a good way to go in like you want to learn about them and know about them but you don't want to open yourself up cuz you know when we even when we went to The Conjuring house or like if I go into to somewhere new I'm very much like setting intention yes postivity I don't want anything negative to come through there's a lot of nervousness Lots I have a

Neighborly ghost encounters

story from our listener ra ra our neighbor's ghost in his painting he gifted us before he died I love this hello lovely ladies first of all I want to say I'm obsessed with the podcast I probably shouldn't be since the Paranormal Activity has about tripled since I first started listening a year ago uh oops whoopsy but since then I have binged almost every episode and I finally am up to

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date I have so many stories to share from an old flat my family and I used to live in it ranges from my old boyfriend being physically pulled off the bed by some entity and it left marks on him but he was haunted himself and probably brought his own ghost from his house to ours because sharing is caring to constant sleep paralysis to my sister Jill being home alone and called from the other room by what firstly sounded like our older sister Jen and then the voice slowly turned demonic in the course of sentence Jes um this is how that interaction went As Told by Jill Jill was listening to music in our room and heard a noise she says hello is anyone home the voice says sounding like our older sister Jen yes I'm home Jill said is that Jen again in Jen's voice yes Jill yes it's it's Jen stop I would [ __ ] lose my mind the room my my sister Jill and I used to share when we were small had a lot of dark energy and entities as other family members used

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to play with the Ouija board here oh my family on my mother's side has a long history of witches and I've developed some of the gifts passed down through the generations gift of certain sight I've allowed predicting my own future through dreams Etc but I'm going to share a more sweet story I also like to imagine that before Jill and ra were born that this bedroom was like their Ouija Board Room yeah and like all of a sudden I'm with child need to make a nursery I guess this is the nursery hey you've already contacted the spirit world there and you're about to bring in a new spirit into this world so it makes total sense to me great you may have already communicated with the spirit exactly natural transition so should we go play a Ouija board and what will be your Nursery is that what you're saying I think the kids already going to come out creepy I don't think we need to do anything more my house just forgave me that's true we don't want to ruffle

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on any fethers okay so this is a sweeter story in the block of flats that we lived in we had a very lovely old neighbor who had no family and was rather lonely his name was Mr Dean my dad being an electrician would often help with any odd jobs that he needed and as a family we would keep him company whenever we could the day before he passed away he gifted a small kids with 100 Rand each which is South African currency now as a a seven-year-old kid in 2002 this meant money yeah baby my dad was also gifted uh amongst other things a painting completed by Mr Dean himself it was almost as if he knew this was his last day in the world and he passed that night very peacefully in his sleep it's so wild to me when people have that intuition when they know I know that's really weird feel it but it sounds like he didn't say anything he was just like here I have some things like I want to give to you yeah they're just pulled to do this sort of thing whether they know it or not yeah H so this painting that Mr Dean had given my

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dad was a fruit basket on a table with a candle with a plain background this painting hung on a wall in the lounge many years have passed and my eldest sister Jen had a daughter my niece Kate at the age of two Kate ran what literally nothing I was just like should I hang a curtain rod there and put curtains over that cuz it's creepy in the video and it will help with sound and it is creepy sorry it was that was my thought process but I realized staring up into a blank Corner into a dark blank Corner no I was just trying to Envision a curtain rod there apologies no no forgiven good uh little jump scare there okay so at the age of two Kate randomly started staring Point plank at this painting for five full minutes ooh after a while I picked Kate up and she straight up waved

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to the painting and said okay bye-bye as if she had just had a full-on conversation with it wait what is the is the painting of a person or what is the painting it's a a fruit basket it's a fruit basket on a table with a candle of plain background so is the neighbor is he just like kind of hanging out in the fruit bowl or just hanging out by the painting yeah I love that it's most likely him oh yeah you would think and Kate seemed like so like okay bye-bye all right yeah having a good time positive yeah I asked Kate about this when she was a little bit older at an age of understanding but she never said what she saw or felt I don't know if she didn't remember or couldn't tell me I don't know I like to think it was Mr Dean watching over us we no longer live in that block of flats as our family grew pretty fast and we each needed more space I still to this day have constant vivid dreams or I guess I should say nightmares about that flat having love day and see you on the other side ra I feel like ra we are owed Stories the scary stories aside for the I

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guess the demon voice but what are your nightmares yeah and what's followed you what else happened here I know will the fruit bowl live forever oia where's that painting now yeah exactly that's what I'm curious about I like how my curiosity is what dark things happened and you're like where's this beautiful painting where is the neighbor what's his name again Mr Rand Mr Dean Mr Dean but I am curious yeah where's Mr Dean what's he up to now yeah what's the fruit ball situation has anyone else interacted with the painting or said anything odd about it we'll have to find out where it is yeah you could send that to us we don't deserve it he wants to be with you so it wouldn't be haunted when it comes to us cuz it's not like he's just haunting I really think it's just like him trying to connect with the people who meant a lot to him when he was yeah so you keep that painting forever I sure hope you do in the same now I'm mad at you in the same sentence how dare you give it to Goodwill in the same sentence you can send that to us actually I don't want that you keep

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it don't don't you dare get rid of it I feel like you just had a full conversation with someone else inside your head my thought my thought process just came out loud totally I didn't sort through any thoughts they just all came it was a thought process but the the other side of the conversation wasn't there Point Counterpoint same person same person message being don't you dare get rid of that b some people have fight club with themselves I have debate and we just witnessed it here we go okay I have a story called mom hears her son being ungrateful and decides to teach him a lesson from

Signs from a deceased mother

Beyond the Grave these are the kind of stories I want to hear I love when how both of us do this and when you like Rel listen to it you'll hear it but we put so much emphasis into a like sentence like we act it out like that was a sassy way you said it well because it was that's how it's supposed to be I know but it was almost as if like you it's your personal story yeah but it does feel

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like it when reading them I feel like I'm reading it from the perspective of The Listener I wonder if anyone listens to us reading their stories and they're like damn they really got wrong I'm sure so many times hello Karen and Sabrina let me just start off by saying that I'm a relatively new fan I started listening to the podcast last Autumn and I'm slowly making it through each episode you both are my favorite spooky program to listen to as I get comfy to float off to Dreamland each night we love to lull you into creepy nightmares yes here we are I wanted to share one of the very few ghostly experiences that I've ever had in my short time during this simulation this story starts off a little dark and emotional first you have to understand that my mom passed away almost 7 years ago in a freak car accident oh jeez my mom was my everything and needless to say I miss her more than I can even say in this letter wait I just had a Deja Vu no I'm pretty sure in christe's messages to me Samuel died in like

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like in a car or something like a vehicle in war is that why you have so much anxiety about dying in a car I'm we're going to Rel listen to these after we record we need to okay should we light a fire tonight and listen yeah okay oh wait I'm so excited I'm the fireplace I'm a fireplace I'm supposed to research for in the next episode but we could do that tomorrow at the time of my mom's death she and I had been living together for the last handful of years in a small apartment in Upstate New York I had never lived on my own at this point and her passing definitely flipped my world upside down so sad about 2 months after the accident I eventually found an apartment in the same town and thus started the new chapter of my life I was slowly getting used to navigating through a much lonlier and quieter way of life but I had my cat Jade to keep me company in this new living space the apartment itself was sort of L-shaped and in the middle of the apartment in the of the l-shape there was this floating Corner counter

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with a phone jack for a landline the perfect spot to set up a few of my mom's things so I could see them every day and I could think of her so that's exactly what I did on this shelf that I had set up I put a Stained Glass Lamp that my mom had made a few of her chachkies and a copy of her obituary her class ring sitting on top of the obituary everything had its place I hardly ever touched it and everyone who came into my apartment knew not to mess with it mhm I liked to think of it as sort of like this Altar for her memory yeah so one night I was talking to my sister on the phone and now the thing about my sister is she's always been very atheist she has never believed in spirits any sort of afterlife or anything that is Supernatural or of the supernatural sort while she and I were talking on the phone the subject of our mom came up she started to talk about all the things that happened to other people interpreted as being signs from my mom and that she's still around and watching and my sister was asking me what I thought about all of this she would

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describe situations to me where someone would say something to her about our mom and suddenly there would be this like cartoon Swan on the TV and we always used swans to represent our mom and other seemingly meaningful synchronicities but she simply just couldn't bring herself to believe that this was actually a sign from our mom clearly she could though because she's asking what she's asking about it she thinks about it like she knows I expressed to her how jealous I was that she was having these experiences here I was struggling to get through each day at work only to come home to an unfamiliar and empty apartment and I hadn't seen or felt any signs from my mom whatsoever a I didn't smell her scent to off through the air unexpectedly she didn't come and visit me in my dreams I didn't randomly get to see swans on the TV nothing the phone conversation with my sister eventually ended about 45 minutes later my boyfriend at the time was on his way over to my place and I had to go pick up the pizza that I had ordered for us I left my room I grabbed my and I started heading for the door on my way out I stole a glance at my mom's Altar and I noticed

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something was a miss her obituary was gone the class ring that was sitting on top of it missing too holy [ __ ] I panicked as I mentioned before I've hardly ever touched the things that sat on this altar no one that ever came into my apartment had touched the things that sit on this altar my cat at the time was too old and too fat to jump up onto the Shelf she never made a habit of doing that in the first place and also there were no open windows in the apartment that night even if there had been the Shelf itself was positioned in such a way that if all of the windows were open there was no feasible way for a breeze to come through that would have been able to toss both of those items off of the shelf right so I called my boyfriend and I asked him if he could go grab the pizza for us because I just couldn't rest until I located the obituary and the ring I very quickly found the obituary hiding Face Down Under the shelf on the floor but that still left the ring so where could it be 20 or so minutes later I finally found it and to this day I still

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do not know how the actual [ __ ] it happened but the ring was 10t away underneath the love seat in the living room I was floored so it was the ring but um I say as I'm like burping you got but with the burp immediately my mind went back to the conversation that I just had with my sister I remember how left out that I had felt that I hadn't seen any signs from my mom where here I was sitting in this apartment filled with a ton of my mom's things Furniture she had bought a TV that she had paid for cabinets full of food that moved from one old apartment to this one everything in that apartment was because of my mom and then it clicked this was my mom's way of saying well you little brat you wanted your sign here it is ever since that day I'd never had a doubt in my mind that she's always nearby anytime I'm in the car belting out the lyrics to Sarah Mclaughlin or out antique hunting with my current partner I can feel her with me because those are the things that she

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loved to do too well that's my story I hope you two enjoyed it here's wishing you two a wonderful spooky season sincerely Tommy I think I referred to Tommy as her earlier so I apologize but I 100% believe that Tommy your mom is watching over you and yeah kind of similar to how my spirit guys were like you ungrateful little brat yeah it it's like it's Al she's like Tommy you believed in all this stuff so I didn't think I had to prove it to you where it's like your sister it's taking a lot of a little bit more of audge yeah be like I'm still here with you I assumed you knew and also Tommy's mom using Tommy's sister is almost even more powerful because it's like yeah I'm targeting the one that we all know doesn't believe in any of this which is not only does assigned to your sister it's also assigned to you right yeah if you can convince the skeptic then everyone's going to believe then everyone's going to believe and world peace is within no it's not no but I I do I just

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love that this is what happened that it was like there's just a few items on that Altar and she's like I'm going to [ __ ] up a few of them just a few of them it's all all not put in the same the same spot either yeah go hunt for them Tommy go search for them which I I'm glad that they weren't gone gone because Tommy's mom knew that them being Out Of Reach or being like like difficult to find beyond that evening would have been really really hard emotionally I have a story to end us

Witchy traditions and hauntings

on okay it's from our listener let's see might be signed witchy mama oh witchy Mama it is it's signed witchy Mama love it it's called familiars bonfires and the man who lives in the walls hello I'm not the best Storyteller but I recently started listening to your podcast and feel the need to share a little of the experiences that I have had I am a 26-year-old mom of two very in tune daughters who love dancing in the moonlight in pretty Stones I love this I come from a long

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line of witches and all the females in my family have gifts including my gay brother with his own special abilities a family affair Affair family of witches I always say that my brother was supposed to be a girl but that's a whole other story anyway there's my great great grandmother who was a well witch in the Appalachian Mountains down to my grandmother who had two girls my aunt and my mom my aunt also had two girls and my mom had me and my brother but now then there's me again who of course had two girls it's mostly it's Practical Magic yeah it is so anyway here are a couple little stories that stick out the most for me enjoy starting with my familiars from an early age of four I can remember cats being drawn to me I named my daughter Freya from my love of cats and I really connect with animals deeply I have this cat currently that I believe has been in my life since I can remember but in different forms the energy she gives me is the same as my cat Smokey from

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childhood I'll attach pictures of both cats just to show the energy is so similar anyway flower is her name currently and I adopted her when I had become an adult and moved out on my own she's been with me through so much and has been a huge part of my healing Journey when I was scheduled to have my c-section with my second daughter Freya I was late to the appointment because Flowers showed up on my porch morning after being missing for almost 6 months I think she left so that when she came back I knew I would be okay six months where did she go and she came on the day that Freya was being born being born it's so wild to me cuz I'm like was Freya just living in the woods or did Freya does Freya have a second family what if Freya went to go retrieve the soul my your nipples check in how the nipples now hard wow I was convinced I was going to die because having preclampsia it was a great

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possibility that me or my baby could have been hurt in the delivery process so we go to load our bags in the car and here is this this cat that has been missing and my heart has been aching for for months now I dropped to my knees and scooped her up I pet her and cried for about 20 minutes before my husband was like hey uh we got to go and I just knew in my heart she showed up to let me safely release all my pent up emotions she really saved me just as I had saved her when I adopted her the next story I have is about bonfires my family would have as a child I thought they were just a fun tradition but now looking back I see how ritualistic and spiritual these moments were every Halloween night my papa would invite all of my family even his ex-wife who is the mother of my mom to a Haunted Woods we would spend weeks clearing out these woods and setting up different sections of different horror scenes for all of our friends and family to walk through this is

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Magic ah I freaking love this wait so the family that I went to daycare with that I was like very close with growing up that were my parents best friends they live on lake wiip pasak and they do the exact same thing what if it's them that's what I started to is this from New Hampshire doesn't say did you go to the lyman's haunted forest is this the lyman's hello last name is not Lyman but okay different but could be tradition yeah or could also be the married name we don't know like this is different anyway okay at the peak we had almost 500 people in My Papa's backyard dancing around our fire and getting spooked I love this the best part was this Woods was free of course to anyone that wanted to come celebrate the spooky season with us and still to this day we throw this event for our Clos family and friends we have had a few incidences where the cops had to be called and with clear rules of no alcohol and this family event be ignored the decision was made to celebrate and inv invite only a few people and close to us as to provide security measure to

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ensure that our rules are followed but this is a tradition that I am so proud to have come from I love that yeah that's so fun my last story comes from when I was four years old and had my first imaginary friend I called him the man that lived in the walls he still follows me around to this day and if I sleep with my closet open I will see him standing there watching me while I sleep every time I don't like that so we lived in This Old House as a kid that we called the green house it was in the middle of the woods and the hills of Kentucky okay so not New Hampshire okay and the house itself always had bad vibes to it even without this ghost well I would tell my mom about the man who lived in the walls and she would hear me playing with a grown man constantly but when she would go to check on me I was alone I have no memory of this house other than the one image which I will bring back up later anyway I would tell my mom that he hated her and that he wanted to come play with him forever okay this is a huge risk cuz I was like oh he's playing

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with her and he's watching her like maybe it's a relative that they don't know about but that is not okay she had the house cleansed and blessed time and time again but always this thing would come back one time when she was pregnant with my brother she was walking up the stairs which was odd for her because the upstairs had gotten so bad no one was allowed up there does that mean spiritually so bad she said she got to the top stairs tried to open the locked door which never had a lock on it in the first place place but for some reason was stuck she said she could feel two strong hands push her on her belly and she went flying down the stairs she instantly went into labor and my brother was born with the cord wrapped around his neck three times from how hard she fell wait was it from how hard she fell or was it that he would have died from the cor umbilical cord being wrapped around his neck and so she needed to be able to go to the hospital immediately and get checked for his life to be safe I like that interpretation better but it sounds like it was a really negative entity and the doctor said from the fall that that's what

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happened shoot thankfully by the grace of God he was able to be saved and suffered no damage but we truly moved out of that house the next day good we never packed our things never walked back into that house the only memory I have is my papa picking me and my older brother up after my mom had been rushed to the hospital and when I looked back up at the house I saw the man who lived in the walls standing in the upstairs window smiling at me ew I waved at him since for me he was my friend and my papa yelled at me to get in the car quickly after we moved out a older couple moved in for a couple years and my mom said that whatever was in the house eventually became so evil that it couldn't be stopped because one night the house burnt to the ground while this couple slept peacefully they were unfortunately unable to make it out of the house and the house collapsed after that from the fire thank thank you for reading this I would love to hear it on an episode one day see you on the other side love witchy mama and we have pictures of flower

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and Smokey oh my God those beautiful eyes wow I love little cat's mouths I know they're so cute she want to kiss them oh my gosh I don't even know what to make of this this is so this whole time I was rooting for the man to like have a comeback and not be so evil but like he was trying to take people's lives left and right he was trying to take our witchy spooky Mama forever with him he almost killed her mom and her brother and then he did kill two people well I'm also so curious because our witchy mom mama said she can still see this spirit this man in the walls if she sleeps with her closet door open so he's followed her for what purpose to what extent did he exist in both places or when the house burnt down was it his way of like finally being released from the house so that he could be with her yeah yeah was there a period of time where she didn't see him at all and was does that perfectly match with moving out of the house to the house being burned

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down and do her daughters see him this feels so paranormal activity or like Insidious ow what was that are you okay I don't know it felt like someone poked the [ __ ] out of me just now ow did it make a popping sound too not that I don't think I noticed you just felt like you were poked really hard ow it's it's like sore leave me be say it nicely though no okay this is my house don't poke me do not poke me okay that was weird okay let's move on what the hell well now that it's getting dark I'm getting scared me too not really I'm getting angry actually but angry at like like a protective like Mama what you Mom I better not be poked again my house this position actually feels really nice I've sat in that position too it

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does feel good it's very comfortable yeah like twisting the back of your spine like letting everything just wow settle the weight the gravity of your body just take me away this is kind of like the t-spine rotation yeah we're going to go tees spine rotate and sip some tea by the fire and listen to the messages from Christy perfect and while we do that you all should send

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