OG Christmas Wild & Out with Mari Lwyd and Karankoncolos, The Christmas Zombie and Bigfoot (Ep 251)

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very spooky hello hello I started so formal like I feel like I was about to do a presentation thank you all for joining us greetings to everybody thank you so much for coming and you are cheer and joy and Holly Jolly Christmas toe Christmas toes H okay oh I thought you said Christmas toad I was like I do like a Christmas toad that seems fun little chocolate toad I in you're stocking I'm down for anything christmy sounds very Harry Potter anything Toady anything chocolatey this is two girls one ghost

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two girls one ghost and we are your ghostesses that is Karen hello and I am Sabrina and this is the second to last episode of the Year 2023 and since we've started doing our new format which is like we swap off you know back and forth who's doing an episode and every year we've done our horoscopes for the New Year Karen because this is your researched episode I would like to start the episode with your horoscope for

2024 Leo horoscope

2024 ooh okay I'm ready let's hear I can't even remember what 2023 is horoscope was but I think it was a good year it was a good year for you and it's it's also interesting because every year I try to find the same website that I used the year before to do the same horoscope reading and for some reason every year I cannot find that same website like it basically I change every year where we Source this from we would love to do and maybe this is something

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we can do when the new year starts is working with someone who studies astrological signs and doing birth charts to help us actually read a horoscope for us specifically based on our birth charts because these are very much General broad for you're a Leo I'm a Virgo and I feel like the more I read Leo horoscopes the less sometimes I sorry I I'll just say this now there's a lot of background noise happening in my house house we have a lot of projects we're about to leave on our honeymoon the ceiling is leaking there's mold everywhere and there's holes being drilled in the ground okay so it is what it is I can't work around it I just have to work with it hope that there's not too much banging but anyway I was going to say sometimes I feel like I don't relate at all to the Leo ones recently it's more like the personality ones for Leo but I feel like horoscope I could I could so I'm curious what what is said and I do think think when it's big

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picture at the whole year I think it's easier to relate to than specifically like one day or personality characteristics yeah okay so I looked at two websites there's astrosage.com and then astroyogi.com I'm going to read the general from Astro Yogi and then I can go into the more specifics from Astros Sage there is one thing very

Leo career and love

specifically that I need to read from Astro Yogi this is truly the only reason I'm doing two because there's one specific thing in here that I needed to read I read it and I was like oh my God this is too good okay individuals born under the Leo Sign are known for their strength their Fierce Attitude and bold and brave nature they have a dynamic and Magnetic Personality that attracts people toward them Leos are charismatic Leaders with a magnetic presence confident Regal ambitious they possess a creative spark that shines in any endeavor true gosh

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I'm like blood I'm getting red compliments with the ruling planet sun's energy they always shine bright their warm-hearted nature and loyalty make them Natural Born friends dear Leos according to the Leo horoscope 2024 predictions 2024 will be full of Joys Financial stability a dynamic increase in your career graph profitable Investments and good health there will be a bit of disturbance in your family life but don't worry Ken and I read a lot of this and it talks a lot about how your romance is thriving and does really well disturbances what is it going to be is it going to be like all those people when we were on tour that asked if I was pregnant or about to be I was like I don't know that or maybe your home I mean you're already dealing with a lot of stuff in your home there's a lot of new things right but I like this says financial stability which is good because all my money has gone out the door now because this house is falling apart but then the home will be stable

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okay I'm going to go into more specifics on the other website Astro stage but there was a little bit of there's like these four things that you can do for astrological remedies just basically to ground yourself the first one I'm going to read last because it is the reason I'm reading this but one is to start fasting every Saturday or avoid no any nonvegetarian foods and alcohols which you're already doing the alcohol thing yeah I don't really drink anymore I go through big swings of like I don't drink for four months and then I'll drink too much in like two weeks and then I won't drink again for another four months I'm in that not drinking face so I got that but I don't know if I can go no and I can I can eat vegetarian yeah but I don't want to fast that's fine another remedy is take the blessings of your teachers and try to interact with them more often okay and I think this one is very much like yoga related it says start doing suria namaskar every day day

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I don't know what that is I'm not a yogi wait is this like I can choose any of them that feel the best to do or I'm supposed to do all four I think you're supposed to do all four but like I mean keep in mind this is all like you know your own personal Journey but this one yeah feed jaggery to cows I don't know what jaggery is but I like I like feed and cows it's like a sugary treat feed the cows K oh I'm going to hit up some local farms and be like hey can I bring my own jaggery I just saw that and I was like oh my God it couldn't be more perfect for you and that's the most random suggestion too out of all of them yeah like that's so weird and I love that cuz I love cows so much yes I know I'm most likely to do that out of the four remedies so I'm going to start with career during the Leo horoscope 2024 the career front will start off well Saturn

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strong in the 10th house from the 10th house which is the seventh house will remain present throughout the year providing you with success in your career it will strengthen your position in your job and your hard work will yield good results the influence of Mercury and Venus on your 10th house at the beginning of the year will give you a clear opportunity to excel in your profession Jupiter will continue to reside in your 9th house until May first bringing the possibility of job changes maybe job transformation I don't really want to change jobs cuz our job is I was like you better not leave me you B no like wait this is the worst that's bad news the Leo career horoscope 2024 predicts that Mars will occupy your ninth house from June 1st to July 12th and move to the 10th house until August 26th the positioning of Mars has a potential to offer you a favorable job opportunity and July will be characterized by a busy and bustling

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work environment during this period you may have the chance to undertake work related travels another tour kin no talk to me in 12 months about getting on a plane again time frame between July 31st and August 25th could be somewhat challenging but it's important to remain diligent and hard work during this phase however from October to November you can expect excellent conditions in your job great that's spooky season of course your business can anticipate a highly favorable year in 2024 through the year Saturn the ruler of the 7th house will remain in the 7th house creating beneficial conditions for long-term profits your business will expand gradually whatever Saturn grants you will come effortlessly and steadily ensuring substantial outcomes your business will advance and grow as the year progresses however caution should be exercised in the initial half of the Year might be comparatively weaker as Mars and the the sun pass through your

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six and seven houses during this period your professional Partnerships no May encounter challenges sabr no no no K should we just like start going to therapy right now couples therapy sign up prematurely make sure this never happens yet if you successfully overcome these obstacles your business will Thrive here's the thing we've been doing this for over six years and we've been totally fine I think we're good I think we'll be okay and we survived two and a half months of tour living together we'll good okay so basically our business is going to thrive especially between July and October of 2024 for

Family life predictions

family life the Leo 2024 horoscope predicts that the year will begin with a mixture of experiences k2's presence in your second house may create familial issues and disrupt relationship Harmony conversely Venus and Mercury in your fourth house will amplify the joys and Comforts of your family life your family will support you and your home will be filled with peace and happiness your household

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will witness an improvement in its amenities and overall contentment hey great cuz there's not much happening here now AKA you will buy furniture one day the atmosphere at home will be delightful in the middle of the Year specifically on May 1st Jupiter the Divine teacher will enter your 10th house and offer valuable insights regarding your second and fourth houses this will contribute to the happiness and Tranquility of your family life and it indicates that your first half of the year you will establish harmonious and positive relationships while the second half will bring favorable relationships with your parents your family will provide unwavering support throughout the year fostering a prosperous family life and that is your 2024 horoscope and I will read mine at the beginning of the next episode great I do wonder my my dad has been talking about starting to wean off off of work a little bit you know the

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possibility of not working it's 24/7 yeah and so I wonder if like the second half of next year that starts to happen for him and I just see him more often that would be nice and I wonder if the amenities in my home are because he's here helping me I also think all the construction you're currently doing is going to help establish the yeah nicer amenities in your home next year I didn't read through all of mine because we're not going to do it until next week but I am just so curious given that your business is going to be thriving what if it says like my business is not going to be like you do well but you kick me out no or maybe it's all about perspective maybe this year I'm like we're doing great and you're like we could be doing better I feel like it's usually the altern like we usually have the reverse usually me being like K we're doing so great I'm so proud of us and you're like we need to do more you're like don't worry we're doing great and I'm like we're

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not maybe we'll flip-flop this year and that will be why that's happening okay

Holiday traditions

well because this is a holiday episode I also or we also asked people on Instagram what their holiday traditions are yeah and I just have to read a couple that were I think kind of written with humor but I thought it was hilarious okay barking spider said drinking Electric Omega said major [ __ ] depression hey same same and Britney Rogers said crying in the clerb so I think that these are holiday traditions a lot of us can relate to but I'll read a couple serious ones okay well not those weren't serious but they're dead serious I liked this one because you just talked about it was it on campfire stories on patreon or did you talk about it on a regular episode you talked about the book flood was it a Dan tradition the one that I saw was

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Icelandic I believe Icelandic tradition yeah okay Ghost Girl Meets World said Christmas Eve book flood so they do that that's litha oh of course litha freaking does this so cool I love litha this is from OK Shay they wrote on Christmas Eve we have a sleepover in the living room with all of our kids oh that's so cute I love that so much I D remote girl said that they eat Asian food and tip 100% to service workers wow that's kind that's such a good idea I know that's so kind it's such a generous way to give back to during the holidays like these are the people that are working during the holidays yeah I'm going to butcher this but Nish Shaman shini wrote find the pickle on the tray oh my family does that every Christmas Eve yes I know that I've literally never found the pickle ever this year's your year all right knock on wood get there early stay wake up in the

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middle of the night freaking find that pickle it's at my cousin's house so I don't get to be there in the middle of the night I'll just break into their home the night before bribe someone to tell you where the pickle is is it who finds it first or you just have to find it it's whoever finds it first there's an organized time to go find the pickle so the Pickle's not already there the Pickle's placed and then everyone has to I do think it is placed there before we all get there oh I'm not sure it's just reminds me I'm sure I've said this before but it reminds me of my friend Kelsey's family's house in Connecticut where her grandparents lived they have a beautiful like large old dining room and it has stenciling from probably 100 years ago cool and all of the stening is really tiny little strawberries and they're all red throughout the entire room tiny tiny little stencils but there's one green strawberry and you're not allowed to eat until you find the green strawberry everyone who goes has to find it that's

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amazing I want to find the green strawberry I know it's such a cool way of almost paying respect and including the original stenciling of the house yeah that's so fun I love that Tracy quz wrote eggnog every night after dinner and we chant Christmas juice Christmas juice Christmas juice I love Christmas juice I love that eggnog has actually been my recent like every year for the holidays so growing up my grandmother had like an amazing recipe for it so we used to make it all the time but in my adult years when I do like holiday celebrations with friends out in La I've been making eggnog now recently oh you make it make it yeah homemade I don't know if I've ever had homemade eggnog before honestly it's delicious I'm sure it freaking is you're the queen of making things from scratch I made homemade Ramen last night like who how was it $120 to buy the separate ingredients no I actually have all the

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ingredients already in my fridge that is wild the only thing I needed was ramen noodles and I bought those wow yeah delicious that sounds freaking great I enjoy cooking speaking of cooking what

Christmas creatures game

have you cooked up for us for today what am I cooking up for us okay I actually was like giggling writing this I had so much fun researching this oh fun I'm getting old I like can't even read things on my you got to get your iPad out lady that was the point where we got those old lady all right so I thought it would be fun for us today if we played a game of would you rather oh fun so I've selected two Christmas creatures and at the end of the episode everyone can decide which Christmas Creature they would rather encounter okay can you tell me their names and before we even start based on their names and contextual Clues from their names I'm going to pick one and then I have to see if I still stick with that choice okay I'll give you their names and not their not their nicknames okay great okay

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Marie Lloyd or karakolis karakan colas for sure just cuz it's a more fun name to say interesting okay this is a new rule you have to decide right now who you would choose and then see see how you fair it's like a Choose Your Own Adventure and you don't find out until the end of this episode if you died oh you live it's the Oregon Trail maybe you die with both of them Merry Christmas happy holiday happy holidays one of these creatures is not like the other okay I'm excited to hear about both of them all right well I wrote a little intro I'm going to read it to you because thank you I giggled at myself but it's not really that funny but everyone just pretend it is okay I'm sure it's great you're hilarious it's not even funny I was just trying to paint a picture because I was like okay well when we think of the holidays we think of stories and characters or at least I think of like Christmas movies right so I'm thinking of the creatures there I'm thinking of the Narwhal from Elf I'm thinking of will Ferell I'm

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thinking of elves and Santa Claus and that like bearded guy that works at his family's Christmas tree farm that the like big city girl on a Hallmark movie comes and falls in love with like those are the characters I'm thinking of right okay yeah but the two creatures I'm going to tell you about and I also feel like if you've listened to any previous holiday episodes you'll know that most of the creatures that we talk about do not offer you gifts or remind you of how wonderful it is to wear a cable net sweater and drink hot chocolate like these are creepy and they're scary and you're like what the f are these holiday traditions and how did these come to be they usually involve eating children yep or scaring children and I think that some of these creatures do not only scare children but scare adults too and we're here to bring them back this year because not only do we want to bring back the tradition of

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telling ghost stories around the holidays we want to bring back the tradition of eating children around the holidays Yum Yum Yum Yum Yum you just go and you grab them and you bring them up to your ice cave in your your potato sack and you boil them in a pot of water and like a potato their skin peels right on off like Hansel and grle also okay I feel like I don't need to say this but like don't do that we're joking oh God no if we found out that any of this were happening in real life around us or because of what we said I would find that person and I would do exactly what they them yeah yes and give them Wet Willies I would give so many Wet Willies you would cry yeah and that's that's all I need and you'd never stop crying because you'd have so much moisture in your ear that it would just forever fill your eye ducts cuz that's how moisture Works inside the body I I'm impressed by the saliva count that you have Karan these

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glands they be working over time secreting many liquids what's it called when you're gleeking is that what it's called when they just kind of like accidentally squirt I don't know but I like that gleeking I swear that's a thing I believe it I believe everything you say that's why I join your cult believe me it's almost like I was thinking the other day sorry I'm already off on a tangent but I was thinking the other day on campfire stories or was it a regular episode I get so confused cuz we do both multiple times a week but when I made up the rumor that you absorbed your twin in the womb and then I do you even remember this when did you make that up it was a few weeks ago but then I was driving the other day and I I was thinking and I was like I can't believe Sabrina absorbed her twin in the womb and then I was like wait a second she never told me that that was a rumor I started and now I believe it okay fake news all right so let's get

The Mari Lwyd

into our game of would you rather great

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and we will travel to Wales a light dusting of snow barely gripping the ground a Welsh family hunkers down in their home enjoying various treats like Plum Pudding and toffee around the fire they play games and they laugh together enjoying this December tradition that they've created and look forward to every single year but their evening is interrupted when there's a knock at the door hm is it a neighbor is is it a postal service worker with a holiday gift they're curious and obviously they want to go open the door so the mother rises from her chair and she walks towards the front of the house still smiling but when she opens the door to greet their visitor her face Falls her blood running cold standing in front of her unaffected by the cool winter air is Marie Lloyd Marie Lloyd is not a person not quite an animal either Marie Lloyd is a skeleton of a m with human feet its

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skull is completely bare of any remaining flesh or hair clean and bleached from the centuries of visiting Welsh residents much like tonight a sack covers its body which looks drab in comparison to the vibrant ribbons and bells that it has placed on top of its head a sort of makeshift Mane well at least it's in the spirit it got it's festive it is and so the mother she must gather her wits now for she is about to enter a battle with this horse skeleton thing a battle of Rhymes stop this is the original wild and out they have a rap battle this is real they have a rap battle they have to go back and forth exchanging poetic insults and comebacks Marie Lloyd's jaw opens and forcefully Clos cles the bones grinding against each other as the mayor

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speaks and the mother most Focus because she needs to win if she doesn't win she has to give the mayare a prize I'm so glad I didn't pick this creature because I would lose the first second guess what you have to give if you lose what a beer oh so maybe you should have picked this one it's not a child okay so this probably isn't the most terrifying creature it actually I feel like it sounds weird and fun so here's how this came to be the atmology has been debated but some people think that muddy Lloyd translates to gry Mar or to Mary game there's a lot of debate and also it's Roots have been debated so some people are like is this related to Christianity is it protestantism is it paganism interesting no one knows exactly because there's a lot of history that's been Rewritten over time and so it's kind of a Hot Topic but

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regardless of where or why this tradition came to be it started gaining popularity in the early 1800s believing it to be a part of the wider category of celebrations with hooded animals folklorists believe that this started in or was inspired by Traditions that started in Britain where they would take hobby horses do you know what a hobby horse is no it's like a fake horse so like now I'm sure you've seen videos of people who do hobby horsing they go into like a horse Arena or like a gymnasium like a padded gymnasium and they have a stick you know like little kids when you can get like on a horse like on a on a fake horse and it's just like a wooden stick with a horse head and they ride them there's an adult sport called hobby horsing there's a sport and they do routines it's like a gymnastics routine on the hobby horse that's amazing I've never seen this nor heard of this and this is my new H tradition I'm going to become a hobby

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hser should be an Olympic sport that's one I think everyone would watch we should make a paranormal Olympic Games we should and it has nothing to do even with paranormal it's just things that we like so hobby horse yeah cuz we can relate a back to exactly M Lloyd yeah cuz you have to dress your hobby horse as this creature oh okay so essentially there was a big surge in popularity of hobby horsing in Britain and then they would do these different like breakoff traditions would occur from or like around based around hobby horsing so they would take a hobby horse and for this tradition they would cart the hobby horse around like a group of people would cart this hobby horse around around Christmas time then they would sing a song or declare some sort of statement alongside the horse their fake horse that they've created and they would request payment from whoever was whoever they were performing for okay it's kind of like Christmas carolling it is except they're like now give us food

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and drinks because we did this for you yeah and you didn't ask for it but isn't it entertaining are you not entertained so this was a big thing in Britain and then a lot of people historians and folklorists were like well how did this get to whales and so I wanted to provide a quote from a folklorist okay quote no clear reason end quote which I love because then I feel like they just must have thought it was fun yeah and it caught on although there is there is like a little bit of history and they did theorize that perhaps in the 14th century there were Welsh people and British people spending a lot of time together in different like mining different minerals in different places so they thought perhaps like it kind of was passed on then and was kind of a slow burn and picked up speed many centuries later like through a game of telephone it evolved into something else

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yeah yeah but I thought this was the best quote on the internet from a professional who just said no clear re no clear reason like we don't know why the Welsh people liked this it's like the quote that I read in the Edgar alen Poe episode about Edgar alen Poe's dad was literally nothing like that was a review written about him yeah brutal that was just that was sad harsh yeah see that's a comeback that probably would have destroyed Marie Lloyd if you're doing the the insults and rap and rhyme battle poem off rhyme off a PO off I know po would be great at this so basically Mar Lloyd was never believed to be a real creature rather it was created by human beings as part of a Wasing tradition and I had to look up what that was but basically it's an English Yul TI drinking ritual and salutation where people go door too and they would ask for charity giving or

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basically just like ask for them to be the charitable donation and in turn there would be a good harvest and I think it originally started when people would go who were a lot poorer and visit some richer neighbors and neighborhoods and ask for a cup of their with sale which is a hot mold cider and then I think it kind of evolved to people just like asking for charitable donations and then that bringing you good luck through your karma okay so the first recorded muddy Lloyd visit was in 1800 a group of men traveled through various areas with a horse skull on a pole they put a white sheet over it and some decorative accents on top of the skull the picture I sent to you is from 1904 so from 100 years later okay but this is essentially what they looked like it looks like a ghost I think it evolved to someone being underneath the thing and pretending to be yeah it does okay yes so the group would knock on

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people's doors requesting entry through song because this is a musical homeowners were expected to deny them so you have to say no because that's not fun if there's no back and forth oh so you got to be like no hobby horse you cannot come in and then through song the group would request entry again and they would go back and forth with the homeowner in song or Rhyme or debate until the homeowner either gave up or was out of ideas and comebacks and the group was then l in and given food and drinks the skull is often on a springloaded device now so it's jaw can move and Lloyd is talking AET actually like saying yeah it's a puppet but it's like a skull that's cool yeah and then once inside the home because without a doubt no one ever wins against mudy Lloyd right so once inside the home this creature runs around nighing and

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snapping its jaws at children and sometimes adults and just terrorizing them and then the leader of the group that has come and traveled around with M Lloyd will pretend to restrain it like oh get back M Lloyd and it's just this whole show in battle I love the performance it's so great I want to witness it I actually saw a photo from like seven years ago online that was from somewhere in La that there was a group that was doing it I don't know if that's an annual thing if it's all over the place or if it was just some cultural show I'm not sure my god do people still go Christmas caroling cuz I remember growing up there were like groups of people who would go around our neighborhood every year in Christmas Carol but I don't think I've heard of a group of Christmas carollers in years like I feel like now you have to go to an event where people are carolling or it's like a Christmas or Holiday Market event and there are car rollers there but there's no like door to-door car rollers anymore I have never experienced a door too caroler ever oh yeah it was

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always at events W I can't say I would like it no that's why I think they've they're a going extinct breed because many people feel the way that we do in a group in a street outdoor setting where all the lights are on and I have my hot chocolate like that sounds great but oneon-one where I'm expected to sit there and stare and smile and cheer and just make so much eye contact it is a really bizarre thing because it is tradition yeah the tradition of Christmas carolers they would come knock on your door and you'd open the door and then they' start singing at you and like how long are you supposed to stand there and watch what if you're in your jammies and you're cold it's an interesting choice it is I've only done it one time and it was kind of fake because my little cousin Addison who's 20 years younger than me she wanted to go carolling so we set up our our parents at doors and went basically just like to

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the house like singing songs well that is cute that was our version so our own relatives had to be like oh wow Beau beautiful job it's like me and my my other cousins like we're all toned up so muddy Lloyd is terrorizing the kids but gets restrained and then eventually is like okay I guess we can continue put on some music this person whose house we've just entered who we probably don't even know now has to feed us and give us drinks and we'll party for a little bit and then we'll leave and we'll move on to the next home so how many meals do they eat in one night is my question great question I have no idea okay this kind of sounds like the one Santa bar crawl I did in La where I got way too drunk and ended up bar crawling my way through three different dinners three different restaurants Wow it happen to do it been there okay so today Mar Lloyd still does this they visit homes ins and pubs around

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Christmas and New Year's the rumor has it she's more tame she's less drunk than she used to be and when she leaves she wishes everyone a Happy New Year and if you're lucky enough to see or be visited by Mar Lloyd it's considered a blessing that you will have a positive and fortuitous next year and so okay it's really a great thing to come in contact with this creature great which means the next creature yeah so I chose wrong is not option number two for would you

Karakoncolos

rather we're traveling some 200 miles to the country of Turkey okay deep beneath the ground in the center of the Earth are creatures Karan conus I'm probably am butchering that but that means blood sucking werewolf roughly sick I sent you a picture as well I did see that picture when I was looking at Mary lude and I immediately was like interesting choice

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Sabrina interesting choice okay so yeah a blood sucking werewolf not very christmy sounding right no not all I gu guess neither is a decorative hobby horse but alas they have lasted in their tradition and in their folklore so these kak andas they have a really big job ahead of them for they are actively working to destroy the planet okay maybe I did choose is right I like a what the how did this how did this equal this because here's the thing I feel like us humans are already destroying the planet so these things are probably doing it in like a trying to get rid of us cockroaches may as well expedite the process I guess like they know that we're the problem yeah I don't think they're smart enough to just weed us out don't talk about them that way Karen I'm just kidding they're going to come for me I know the

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tricks to keep them away which I'll share with you guys okay so all year long these creatures they work together in the Underworld so they're kind of like Demons of A Sort and they take these large saws to the trunk of a tree and this tree basically holds together all of earth oh it's in the Underworld it's like at the center of the earth and this is the thing that's responsible for being basically like the tree of life like the glue of Earth this is how our world operates and lives continues to to be nurtured okay and so they work actively to saw this thing down and it's huge so they are working all day all night for almost the entire year poor thing if they succeed the tree will eventually break and collapse and in turn Earth will collapse with it yeah what does this have to do with Christmas great question yeah the carak and Kus are pretty evil also safe to say I think that these creatures are not the bright for a variety of reasons but also it sounds like they're kind of a part of

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Earth in a way or that they're basically like living inside of Earth somewhere and so if they get rid of Earth and it collapses in on itself I think that that sounds kind of like a suicide mission I was going to say it does make me sad because it simultaneously feels like they've been given a task that they need to complete that will never be completed but also it almost seems like a task that they want to complete so badly to free themselves Wow way to make me feel differently towards them it was straight straight hate and now suddenly I'm like here's my empathy coming coming knocking being like these sad poor creatures here's the thing My reasonings are selfish because I made a choice in the beginning of this episode and I'm trying to justify said Choice yeah curious if you follow us on social media or if you are watching on YouTube let us know what you chose oh I'm also reading that book

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I think it's called like sign here or something and it's all like from the perspective of like demons working in hell and it just it gives me empathy for those types of entities because I feel like they are being manipulated themselves in their post-life predicaments that makes sense yeah aren't we all manipulated in some way it's we're coerced by Society by other people there's a lot of influences around yep agree which I guess is just the experience of living it's just life what am I even saying no it it is this like Circle yeah okay so all year long these guys work to try to collapse the Tree of Life okay these beings exist across many cultures so I put us in Turkey but they're in Greek mythology or I guess lore Albanian Bulgarian Serbian there's a few few different places but all describe this being as appearing to be

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quite similar so they appear humanlike though they have very hairy bodies like fur just coating their entire bodies their legs resemble horse legs though they're still covered in fur their heads are large and sometimes they're depicted with horns sometimes they have a single eye oh sometimes they have two but even though this sounds so strange and creature-like still they somehow remind us of ourselves like their faces they're human enough okay that we feel somehow related to them in a way they seem like a bit bigfooty like this hairy creature very interesting that you say that because this creature has been given the name the Christmas Bigfoot oh and you don't love them Karen no not this one okay you can't love all bigfoots I like regular Bigfoot yeah yeah I like one breed One Singular breed okay so so this

Creature traits and survival

demonic Sasquatch it lives in the Underworld but during the 12 Days of

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Christmas which is how it relates to Christmas during the 12 Days of Christmas the kenen colus become distracted oh from its arduous and Sinister task because a path opens up in the Underworld and this path leads them to the surface of Earth to us and that's very tempting for them to interact with humans oh my God I am picturing the most beautiful story of a Christmas Bigfoot trying to destroy Earth and spending its entire life trying to destroy Earth and then this path opens up and they learn to love Earth and they don't want to go back to destroy Earth and it's this predicament of what to do and they have to try to convince the rest of them God Pixar yeah what are you doing hire us us it's like we attempt to make a beautiful movie about that but it just ends up being like a shark Style movie so these Christmas bigfoots they

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climb up they abandon their axes beneath the tree and they make their Journey annually every single year when this tunnel this path opens up they go through this portal and they go to the surface of Earth and for 12 days these Christmas bigfoots the caras I'm saying it different every time I say it that's okay cuz I can't say it so I'll just call them the Christmas bigfoots that's what I did that was my cheap way out yeah so for 12 days these Christmas bigfoots they hide in dimly lit street corners and in dark spaces and they wait for someone to come by and when a passer by enters their vicinity they point at the person and they ask this human to answer a riddle so again I kind of went with like a riddle theme yeah if the person does not answer back and include the word black in their response the car con colus will murder them right there

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so it doesn't they don't even have to get the riddle correctly they just have to include the word black in their answer it's their favorite word okay yep I also read that some people put like black crosses on their front door to kind of Ward these creatures off cuz I see it and they're like ooh I like this I'll avoid it beautiful yeah yeah friend not Foe and they move on okay so some people are lucky in their encounters they don't have to answer a riddle the thing is no longer intrigued by the possibility of tricking them and and riddles and murder instead they insist on being given a piggyback ride until dawn oh my God that is amazing yeah these things are big and heavy looking too so I imagine it's really tough wait Karen this is like your the reverse of your dream like you dream of Bigfoot giving you a piggy back ride kind of like PG Twilight these bigfoots dream the same thing but from humans they saw

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Twilight once it's so Random it's either like say the word black or I kill you now or give me a piggyback ride for the next seven hours I'm getting happy with my choice the these creatures are complicated and I like them I know I thought that they were both quite silly in their own ways so they're fun they're a bit fun for the holidays they're quirky so when the sun comes up or when Dawn arrives you do not have to give the piggy B anymore because these creatures they find dark places to hide they can't be out in the sunlight this is basically like why they're werewolf vampires of sorts like they they only exist in the dark that's where they're most comfortable and so they run to hide in places like caves and rivers and water Mills old abandoned water Mills is what it said so I was like were there sightings an old abandoned water mill there must be and then once the sun comes up again they can continue on their 12 days of torment and if you think you can simply avoid these creatures by staying inside and not going out at night uh they have some

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other tricks up their sleeves do they so supposedly they can shape shift they can be your family dog they can be your neighbor they can be your child they're mimics I know that's not fa they mimic the voices not only can they appear to be that person but they mimic the voices of the ones you love and trust and they lure you outside bummer if you think that you're too paranoid to fall for the mimic their calls are also said to put people into trance so they're very they're sirenes mermaid-esque and so no matter what if you hear them regardless of your feelings or beliefs you might just be put into a trance and wander outside I think I realized I have a toxic trait only one only one toxic trait just one red flag and that's it is that I believe that I can change the Christmas Bigfoot's perspective on earth a little bit of like a savior complex yeah but I don't even want to save them I just want them to like go on an adventure with me and by the end of

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it instead of me giving them piggy back rid they're offering to give me piggy Mac ride you never know they're Christmas Creature they could be down they could be into it it's like a Grinch the Paranormal is weird I'm Cindy Lou and they're the Grinch it's actually I mean yeah that sounds really right and he's covered in fur did we talk about the theory that the Grinch is actually another who but from the who World in Horton he's a who I think we have talked about that yeah I like that theory I love all these conspiracies okay so if you do get put into a trance and you wander outside they don't just kill you right on the spot like if you don't answer their riddle correctly instead they let you stay in that trance and when you're in the trance you cannot move like you are completely Frozen as soon as you get outside and so since it's cold or rainy or windy basically they keep you here in this paralyzed Frozen State until you

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succumb to the elements and you die that's pretty rough yeah pretty cruel I don't know what happens when Dawn arrives like I wonder if you can get lucky on a balmy evening and survive the night standing there and then when they run away into their caves and into their dark Corners if perhaps that the spell breaks stops the spell or if it's just like a permanent State interesting I don't know so In some cultures it's believed that these creatures can also gain access to your homes and they usually pray on small children they wait in the doorway of your child's bedroom and once your kid emerges the Karan conus will grab them by their necks Scurry into the darkness and eat them and when they're not eating children they're also enjoying other snacks earthy snacks creatures like worms and frogs oh the Christmas Toad the Christmas toad here comes and full circle you either eat frog legs or kid legs that's what they like why do all

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the Christmas creatures like kill children it's so horrible well I think it's so much of it is like the warning to kids to be good you know that if you don't behave these creatures are going to come eat you yeah now while it seems pretty difficult to defeat a Christmas Bigfoot should you have an encounter with one rumor has that there are a few tricks and sometimes these tricks will result in their death in of yours so you should put these survival tactics to use should you come in contact with a Christmas Bigfoot okay first if you encounter one on the streets simply avoid eye contact easy I don't look at anyone in the eye while I'm walking on the street right yeah apparently this confuses them they're largely blind because they've lived in the Underworld and in darkness for so long and so they might think that they've misidentified you as a human and you're not or they might just be like fully confused and looking only for someone who's willing to engage with them but basically it said if you don't look at them there's a

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chance that you might not have to give them a piggyback ride or answer their riddle you can survive another night this is kind of like uh The Purge but for 12 days second if you find one in your home you actually have the upper hand so while they're outside they have the upper hand but when they're inside unless you're a child and they're coming to snatch you uh you have the upper hand as an adult because these Christmas bigfoots they're also shape shifters and in order to really learn how to shape shift properly and to mimic people they spend some time studying humans right and so when they see humans in their homes it's kind of like their natural tendency to kind of mimic and copy you so it's almost like a little Simon Says and so it's recommended that you find a piece of thread or silk to set on fire and if you do the kacan colus will mistake its own fur for a piece of thread and it will set itself on fire oh my gosh they are a little bit um yeah I didn't want to say it but yeah

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dim on the inside but what will keep you safe is not having a dim home light a fire or U will log have it burning on all 12 nights of Christmas and that will dissuade the creature from ever coming inside as well cuz they like the dark that's fair in some countries like Bulgaria there are rituals practiced and performed to scare away the evil spirits and to keep the kakan colus the Christmas Bigfoot away people dress in costumes they wear decorative wooden masks of animals they wear large bells and fur-like material around their bodies almost kind of dressing up like them and they dance through the villages and the sounds of the Bells and the horrifying costumes are basically meant to almost look more terrifying like they're the bigger and batter monster of the town and so these Christmas bigfoots and all the other evil spirits passing by will look and be like oh my God we don't want to mess with those things and

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they will leave everyone alone okay and this will also by doing these rituals and these dances this will provide good health and harvest for the village the following year there's a couple other tricks great so I told you before about the black cross you can leave that out at your front door yeah you can also leave a colander on your doorstep which is set to confuse the creature because they will be tempted to count the holes of the colander oh these poor little things this is reminding me of the toal isn't it the toal where you're supposed to put or the booh Haag where you're supposed to put like a broom out cuz they'll be distracted counting how many bristles there are strands of Like Straw there are yeah well now I want to count how many holes there are in a colander well you will surely get further than a Christmas Bigfoot because because they want to count how many holes are on the C in the colander oh my God I cannot

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speak but when they get to the number three they cannot say it out loud because three is a holy number so if they say the word three they basically just like poof combust they like die and so they either sit there and count to three up to three and die or they sit there all night going one two one one two they cannot get past it poor little guys they are struggling they apparently like donuts who doesn't you can throw this dut like thing it's it's a I'm going to put of this word lucais you can put those on your roof they're basically almost like a dut like pastry a dut like dessert and it's filled with syrup and apparently so tasty and the Christmas Bigfoot they like it they eat it and they're like wow wow I'm so satiated I don't even need to stay the whole 12 Days of Christmas I'll just return to the underworld right now

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and they do I do love how and cuz in my episode next week I'll talk about a creature but I love how food motivated Christmas and holiday related entities are like even Santa is food motivated yeah give him those cookies yeah L good and even the reindeer you got to leave out little snacks some carrots and things yeah sustenance I will go for a snack right now okay so they will return to the underworld eventually after 12 days or if you give them Donuts but they don't always return alone because according to Legend any child born during the 12 Days of Christmas is in danger of transforming into a kakanis each Christmas season Once they hit adulthood so they can live through their whole childhood but as soon as they're 18 there's a risk that one of those 12 Days of Christmas that comes around they're going to morph in into one of these creatures and so to prevent this people like when they have newborn

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babies during these 12 Days of Christmas they will put they'll be the word like tie their baby and I didn't want to like they like tie them to garlic basically but I'd like to think that you can just tie the garlic to them you know that's what I imagine why tie them to garlic yeah you could put Garlic on them you don't have to like restrain them onto like a garlic Cross or something it does feel very vampire likee like it does yeah so you can do garlic or apparently straw works too okay it's also said that anyone born on a Saturday which I think is just any Saturday of the calendar year can see or speak to these Christmas bigfoots it's like parcel tongue I was not born on a Saturday were you no I was born on a Tuesday I was a Thursday okay we are not gifted not us no unfortunately so the Christmas Bigfoot when they return to the underworld after 12 Days of Christmas sometimes they bring alongside them the new kakan colis who have transformed from humans into

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the creature during this time and when they all gather back together they pick up their axes and they continue their work on destroying Earth's life force the tree they see that in the time that they were gone as they go to whack this tree and make more progress that the tree in the 12 days has healed itself so they must start again I feel so bad for these creatures don't they're not the best I know but it just seems like some cruel trick is being played on them yeah they're basically like stuck for eternity in this horrible Loop of living right every day all day hit the tree unless for 12 days you can go to the Earth's surface where you just try to have some good fun with some Rhymes and riddles and piggyback rides and eating Donuts but everyone's just trying to kill you yeah but also they did kill other people too so that's true it just doesn't seem it doesn't seem like an

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enjoyable life and it also sounds like their life is eternal like they live forever so poor things it does and new ones are created which is horrible that like human well and also it's almost like this horrible thing it reminds me of all the souls and the Little Mermaid you know how like the oh stuck in her yeah the souls trapped as like the little sea snake creatures it reminds me of that because it's like not to say that anyone born in those 12 Days of Christmas did anything wrong because they clearly didn't they were just born at a a time in this lore that coincides with the potential of becoming one of these things it sounds like they were all once human interesting and they're these damned Souls cuz that's how you create new ones so it's like how did the original one start but then it's like which came first the chicken or the egg yeah it's like Beek's how do they get created that's a good question too we don't know we don't have the answers all right so they see that the tree has has healed itself and they must start again until next year when the cycle continues

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the tree abandoned for 12 nights to heal the kak con colus distracted by the excitement of terrorizing the human world so Sabrina and everyone who

Listener Bigfoot story

listens which would you rather come in contact with a visit from the Christmas Zombie horse or a visit from the Christmas Bigfoot well I chose an answer in the beginning mhm and I think do you go back on that well I don't think it's fair for me to go back on my decision I made that decision and I need to live with it but if I were to go back and re choose I do think I would rather an personal encounter with the mar lude but in terms of my like oh I want to understand these Christmas Bigfoot more and I have this like sadness towards them I would like to cross paths with them to just just see what's going on

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it's interesting because it's like if you have the hobby horse if you have Marie Lloyd you survive right yeah but if you have social anxiety or you just don't want to entertain people or I'm so bad at that you don't like being put on the spot like that's pretty horrifying and it's a much longer experience than an encounter aside from the piggy back ride a much longer experience than you would get with a Christmas Bigfoot which could be over in just a matter of seconds but there's also a lot of opportunity to be murdered yeah yeah but here's the thing I go to the gym quite a lot I've been doing a lot of squats what's all of that for if not to give a Christmas Bigfoot a piggyback ride you're like come on I squat 2,000 easy let's do it let's get two of you on here if I were to live to tell the tale I'd much rather encounter a Christmas bfot I mean one is like like a creature or is said to be a creature and then one

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is just a wooden stick in a skeleton right that people use as a joke basically I guess I mean it's more than a joke it's it's a it's tradition it's a loved Tradition now tradition but it started I think more in the joke realm where it was just like fun and enjoyable to basically ask for snacks and booze from your neighbors from the pub that you like yeah more peanuts more pretzels here's what would you rather would you rather be a mar Lloyd or would you rather be a Christmas Bigfoot I'd rather be a muddy Lloyd oh okay because here's why Christmas bigfoots they have a job year round that sounds awful and then they get 12 days of chaos yeah but they still within the 12 days of chaos they only have the night to like explore whereas this Christmas Zombie horse it usually happens between Christmas and

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New Year's but there's a lot of times where it will make appearances for sawn for Halloween oh it does and also sometimes just like randomly in the summer like I think it's just kind of it gets to be fun whenever fun is called for I also think you would make a really good one like you would be really good at the riddles and insulting Rhymes I think people would want me to come inside I think we'd have a great time yeah you'd be very funny thanks someone get me a costume done and done we can make that happen okay I have a listener story for you but actually I'm going to do would you rather for you would you rather a story about Christmas or would you rather a story that is a Christmas gift to you this is so hard cuz I immediately I want to say a Christmas gift to me okay then I'm going to do that because I think that it goes well with this episode okay is it Bigfoot yes perfect and it's actually from Sam who is Harrison's mom and Harrison Drew us

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those pictures at the Portland show I have those pictures on my fridge well you have one of them cuz I have the other one in my I have one I show everyone when they come over I'm like you see this is the Bigfoot this is the tree it has knocked down the tree the Bigfoot is 8 feet tall the tree was 12 feet like Harrison gave measurements on my photo and I appreciated it I could tell the whole story to everybody yes okay so this is from Sam and and Sam says I love being able to meet you both at the show you made my son Harrison's year with your autographs he is still talking about how his favorite ghostesses have his special drawings you two are amazing and I'm so glad to have met and talked with you both I talked with Karen about my dad seeing Bigfoot and got the where's that email so here I am I am finally emailing after holding on to the story for far too long my dad Scott was born and raised in Washington and when he he was in his late 20s his dad my grandpa and him went turkey hunting like they did every year they

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would go to click aat click atat click itat it's fun to say k l i c k i t a t click feels like part of Scat I'm a scat man click cck click so they would go to the same area of private property that they had been going to since my dad was small my dad and Grandpa headed to click aat in November of 1991 I was nearly a year old at this time my great grandpa had already set up camp with his good friend George and my dad and Grandpa went to go check out the area to scope out a good spot in the morning for turkey while my great grandpa began warming up chili for dinner so my dad and Grandpa treed to a nearby Canyon that they'd hunted at before they reached the rim of the canyon where it seemed like the world was hushed suddenly the woods became quiet it was Dusk and the turkeys had become quiet as well but then they heard gobbling as they approached the canyon the turkeys then

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dispersed and a man or what my grandpa and Dad described as a dark tall man who appeared not to be wearing shoes and wearing dark Furs like an Old Trapper would the man in quotes was walking from the trail that you took down from the rim of the canyon to the bottom with it there was a strange fowl smell that emanated the the canyon o this man walked towards the end of the canyon that dropped to a valley my grandpa yelled to the man being like this is private property but the man kept walking then the man walked under a tree in the canyon having to go duck under another branch and then continued to the end of the canyon and disappeared into the valley my dad described how eerily quiet everything had been when suddenly as the man left their sight the woods came back to life my grandpa looks at my dad and was like we should leave and that man will figure

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it out if that son of a [ __ ] is dumb enough to go that way let him so they headed back to Camp I mean yeah that's a predator yes they headed back to camp and relayed to my great grandpa and George of the incident and they all had this looming strange feeling that night and no one slept well the next morning my dad and Grandpa were the first ones up they headed back down to the canyon right as Dawn approached the turkeys were out but they did not get a turkey that morning and then curiosity got the best of my grandpa and he told my dad to wait at the rim of the canyon while he walked that trail down into the canyon into the valley that they had seen the man walk the night before my dad watched as my grandpa walked under the same tree noting that the man that they saw the night before had to duck under the lowest tree branch while my grandpa had a nearly twoot gap between the top of his head and the branch for reference my grandpa's 6 fet tall what in the world

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my dad said that my grandpa quickly took notice of the difference and proceeded to the end of the canyon to where there was a large drop off with no trail to the valley below my grandpa then made his way back up to the top of the canyon to find my dad and said that there was no sign of the man but that smell that strange foul odor that they had smelt the night before was looming in the spot at the end of the canyon cuz it was still there it was just camouflage it was completely still he couldn't see it but that thing for sure saw him my dad and Grandpa both agreed that they didn't feel this was ominous or malicious but they definitely felt watched the entire rest of the trip so that thing was like 9 ft tall then I know easily they didn't see the man again and they continued to hunt and click attack until 2010 my dad is an archaeologist and has tried to make sense of this man but has not been able to he won't outright label it as Bigfoot but he also

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says he can't deny the experience and it really closely mirrors an encounter that the quak tall Native Americans have of a Timber Giant and other hairy man tails in that same area done the people who

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own the property my dad hunted on would say they seen strange things in the woods but never got a glimpse of what they felt watch them only a view of it through the corner of their eyes thank you both for making a safe space for paranormal Believers to you on the other side Sam from Washington State wow I mean I'm kind of jealous because although Instinct wise it probably was like a do not follow that guy this is very scary everything is silent don't test your luck sort of situation we have the hindsight 2020 perspective to them so I'm like okay if I knew the outcome which is just that I would track

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it basically but never find it but still get to see it and not actually be injured that is worth it to me okay well now you know you can go here C at that I got to go I guess a bunch because they went for years and they only saw it once I am curious if Bigfoot and Christmas Bigfoot are related in any way I don't know like the Christmas bigfoots are like in a Purgatory of some sense like if they misbehave they have to go there I don't know just curious or if they just are they look somewhat similar just like this hairy beast yeah I'm going to guess unrelated because there's just so many different kinds of Bigfoot sightings with like the yeti and if you haven't listened to our three-part Bigfoot special from this past summer go listen now Karen I just need to commend you for a second I mean we came up with that idea for the three-parter when we were at the crypto zoology Museum in Portland Maine but MH so many people

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have found our podcast because they were looking for bigfoot episodes and so see people like Bigfoot love Bigfoot and so thank you for loving Bigfoot so much that we did a thre parter hey and thanks for volunteering to do a part two absolutely even if it was an attempt at telling me all the hoaxes and why Bigfoot might not be real listen it is good to question some things sometimes and Bigfoot is a Hot Topic we have to have some Integrity in our research some but only the smallest amount don't worry it was very petite yeah well well happy holidays everybody come back next week for both encounters and one more episode of the year they're going to be holiday themed and then we're going to take a two week Hiatus a twoe break so that we can spend some time recharging and with our family but we're coming back in the new year with some really exciting plans and if you're

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