Haunted Savannah, GA | The Gribble House Axe Murders & Paranormal Tales (Ep 375)

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A house that witnessed unthinkable horrors. A boarding house called The Gribble House where three women were murdered. People moved back in, paid their rent. Tenants who rented the rooms after the murders reported blood stains appearing on the walls. Even if they would clean it, they would reappear. Today, we are venturing down south to one of the most beautiful and most haunted cities in America, Savannah, Georgia. Place you went without me.

[laughter] [music and singing]

Very spooky.

Hi. Hello.

How is everyone doing?

Greetings.

Greetings, Earthlings.

Greetings to all of you.

Actually, I just saw Project Hail Mary.

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Mhm.

So good. Did you read the book first?

I did not read the book. Andy Weir, I think that's his name, he wrote The Martian,

Mhm.

Project Hail Mary, and there's like another big one that he wrote. But this movie, and I asked my brother cuz my brother is a big reader of the these books, and he was like they did a really good job of

adapting it.

adapting it.

Yeah.

But it's so funny. It's so witty. Ryan Gosling is hot AF. Like, my god.

[laughter]

It should be illegal to be that beautiful as a man.

I need to see this.

And there's aliens. And like a beautiful relationship with an alien.

Oh my gosh. I have been seeing that it's getting really good reviews.

I loved it.

And I also love how the alien creature, what's his name? Rocky or something like that?

Mhm.

I saw online that the person who voiced him wasn't actually supposed to voice him at all. It was like the puppet master,

Oh wow.

and when they were practicing and doing all of this work together, they were like, "Okay, well, you just understand the character so well.

You should be

Rocky.

Can you just be Rocky? At least that's

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what I saw online. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure that's how he got the gig. But yeah, it's so good.

Loved it.

A new to watch

Yes.

movie.

Also, hi. We are Two Girls One Ghost.

Two Girls One Ghost.

We are your ghostesses. That's Corinne. Hello.

I'm Sabrina. You've already chugged your coffee today that you've gone back and filled it up with water and I'm

And I'm almost done with the water.

My body's still falling apart.

You know,

we're we're barely here, but we're

I'm barely here.

we're making things happen.

Mhm.

And regardless of what we do, ghosts be ghosting.

Ghosts be ghosting. Ain't that right?

[laughter]

Don't you forget it. Woah. I feel like that was a mix of like a little like kid sound, but then also like the horror movie

Yeah, it's a little creepy. You wouldn't want to hear it in the middle of the night coming from your hallway when you thought you were home alone.

Actually, tragically, that's kind of what today's episode is about.

Oh, no.

[laughter]

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Me creeping through people's hallway?

Yes, it's It's actually a real-life story about the time that Corinne creeps through my house with the with an axe. I wouldn't be surprised if that's something you did. It's not something you've done.

Axe would not be my choice of weapon.

What would your weapon be?

Well, not an axe. It's too heavy.

Fair. Agreed.

Fireplace poker.

Mhm. When I was in Joshua Tree a couple years back, I was on a bachelorette trip and I just got like weird vibes being out there. You know, it's Joshua Tree.

There's weird energy.

It is weird.

And I thought

I've never been, but just looking at pictures I'm like, mhm.

I slept with a knife sharpener next to my bed.

Just a sharpener? Like a dowel?

It was a long dowel and I was like, I feel like you could strike someone over the head with it. You could poke someone's eye out with it.

Exactly.

Yeah, but I can't

really need weapons necessarily when you have teeth and fingers and extra cellulite on your thighs that will hold and mold to all of the spaces and suffocate. The other day I was thinking about

[laughter]

I don't know why I thought about it, but I think I was thinking about how you were talking about like crushing

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people's heads with your thighs. I think about that at least once a week.

Well, me too apparently. And I was like I really do believe like Corinne could crush my head with her thighs.

The thing like I know it.

But we're not going to try it.

going to try it, but like I just know. Like every time there's some scenario like an anxious scenario that plays out in my mind I'm like if I could just get someone right here, it's over. Like there's no one like I think I could kill a bear that way.

You should try it with a watermelon.

[sighs and gasps]

Oh, I should.

Yeah.

Okay, this is going to happen.

I love it.

to get crushed.

Um okay. So today's episode in my mind I was just like what like if someone knew that that's if they were trying to attack me and that was my move like how awkward would it be like me just constantly trying to like put their head into my crotch and then like then like swatting and fighting me where I'm like no no I'm going

I'm here for.

Here, [laughter] come here. It would look really bizarre.

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Wow.

[laughter]

And now I do want to see it happen.

Well, no I don't want to injure someone, but just don't attack.

Well, you would want to injure someone if they were attacking you. They would deserve it.

Oh, exactly. They're not human anymore to me.

Well, there's someone in this story who deserves to be injured, but they did not get injured. Um and we'll get there. But today we are venturing down south to one of the most beautiful and most haunted cities in America, Savannah, Georgia.

[sighs and gasps]

Place you went without me.

[laughter]

Holding onto that.

It's okay. I'll forgive one day.

Um

Give me another 15 years of friendship [laughter] and I'll forget about it.

I feel like there are a lot of places now I've been without you.

Yeah, but that's the one I care about.

Okay. Well, it's okay.

I'll go back with you.

Yeah, that's not the thing. It's just like we we have to one day go. It's not like, oh, you went first without me and I'll never forget it.

That's when you'll forget about it.

We need to also have a haunted story.

to have our moment where we go together.

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Okay, well, tucked along a quiet street, once sat a house that witnessed unthinkable horrors. A boarding house that became the site of one of the most brutal murders in the city's history where three women were murdered. The police became so desperate for answers that they hired an actor to pretend to be a ghost.

What? That is a bizarre twist and a story that I've never heard before.

Oh, I had never heard of it either and I was like, well, this That's what drew me into the story. Just that sentence alone.

Yeah, that's the tagline. But over a century later, there is no need for actors because there are plenty of ghosts that are very, very real.

the Gribble House history

This is a story of the Gribble House and the 1909 Savannah Axe Murders.

What's up with all the axe murdering back then?

That's a really good question because like you said, an axe is really heavy. It's not like the easiest weapon of choice.

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And also nowadays, like axes aren't readily available. They're not just like in everybody's homes.

No, an axe is Was everyone chopping their own wood back then?

Right.

Like, why was that a common household

screwdriver of the of that day?

Yeah, I don't know. It's It's not like they didn't have knives or other weapons.

I Yeah, I don't know. Anyone who has a history of axe knowledge, please let us know.

Maybe the use of fingerprints in a crime evidence

has discouraged

discouraged. Yeah, cuz you really have to get your hands all over the axe to hold it. To wield an axe.

But okay, let's get into some history cuz we love history here. Savannah, Georgia, it's one of those places that feels very suspended in time. There's cobblestone streets, historic squares, massive oak trees dripping in Spanish moss.

Yes, that is what I stunning dream of. If I could have Spanish moss in New England.

Well, it is

make it way more creepy up here.

Isn't it like super This is not the

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right word. I was going to say contagious, but

[laughter]

No, it's invasive. Like you don't really want it, but it's so beautiful.

you do want it for the aesthetic. You've got centuries of history layered on top of each other. Wars, disease, tragedy, a lot of death. And like I said, tucked into one of those streets sits a warehouse that seems to be just that, a warehouse. Brick walls, a large cargo door, unassuming. But stop for a moment and take it in because the energy permeating off this land would make anyone question themselves and say, "Yeah, this is not just any warehouse." That's because it is not. And it wasn't always a warehouse. It was once the location of a boarding house called the Gribble House.

The Gribble House.

Mhm. g r i b b l e Gribble sounds like a dog's name. Come here, Gribble. Come here, Gribble. Or like a guinea pig. Gribble. He's Aw, cute. Now I want a pet. I

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I keep thinking about the fear of having a child one day who wants pet tarantulas and like reptiles.

Oh.

I'm very scared of them.

I'd say that was never a thought that crossed my mind. People are going to be so mad at me for a comment I'm about to make.

Yeah.

I catch bugs, release them outside.

I do not.

My husband murders them.

I murder.

There was a

[laughter]

beetle on the outside of the window and we were inside and Noah saw it and was like, "Oh my gosh." And he was watching it and then he went and grabbed paper towel and was trying to murder it.

Cuz he's seen Brian do it.

seen Brian do it. I was like, "No, [laughter] no." So, I don't know. I think I'm okay with my firstborn. I don't think he's going to be a tarantula guy cuz he's

Yeah, he's already

to dispose of the box. [laughter]

Yeah.

"Oh, look a beautiful beetle." And he's like, "You're going to squash it?" Yeah,

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I'm not That was not a fear that I ever considered and now it's going to be.

Yeah, it I know I would not do well with that. But I guess it's apparently have a little bit of control. I could not. What if it gets out?

Well, I'm not going to let them get like a

anaconda.

Yeah. [laughter] Like there are some like a boa constrictor, no thanks. My cousin had one of those.

What? Well, I was talking to her friend Caitlyn who has see a little like lizard or whatever it is.

Oh, yeah. Oh, Carl. Oh, Carl. How's the Carl?

Carl. And I was like, "What do you feed Carl?" A bearded dragon, right? That's what Carl is.

And they feed Carl crickets.

Okay, but that was Caitlyn's choice. That was before she had a child.

wild.

That was her choice of pet.

lives a long time. I'm pretty sure like [laughter] they've they've had Carl for like 8 years already and it's going to she's going to keep living.

about Carl.

I know. Okay, well this is not about Carl. This is about Gribble. Um and the history of this house is not very well documented, but it's believed

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to have been built sometime in the 1800s. It stood witness to the Civil War, through the reconstruction of the city of Savannah, and saw decades of change and hardship. And it sat on the edges of downtown close to the railroad tracks in an area called Frogtown.

This is a meet-up story. Like this sounds so Gribble Academy in Frogtown. It's like

[gasps]

This is a kids book.

It's not. It gets really really rated R very quickly.

[laughter]

The names though.

I know. But over Over years this area developed a bit of an unsavory reputation. I think probably because it was close to the railroad tracks. Like it it attracted thieves, addicts, and like those who were on the fringes of society. So by the early 1900s this area wasn't wasn't the best area to be in. Mhm. But it was also because it was close to the railroad tracks, it was also a place where a lot of the homes were being turned into boarding houses. And people who would be coming into town would take up residence. So again,

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history of this is like kind of hard to nail down, but sometime in the early 1900s a woman named Eliza Gribble owned the Gribble house. And she was recently widowed, so she decided to turn her home into a boarding house in order to like make ends meet and like bring in in her own income.

I feel like that was kind of a common

Yes.

It was like turning your home into some sort of establishment to make money while also like just surviving and raising your kids if you had any.

Exactly. Based on the descriptions this house seemed to match the vibes of Frog Town. It was simple with a shallow front porch, a walled yard out back, and the exterior had peeling paint and murky windows. There is a drawing a rendering of this home or supposed rendering of the home online. But y'all this could be any house. I don't know. This is just what comes up when you search it. And I don't know if it had looked like this at all.

Oh.

But it looks like a very typical colonial

Yes.

traditional colonial build.

Exactly.

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But to women who were looking for shelter during trying times, the Gribble house offered a safe place to live. And like I personally would much rather stay at a home a boarding house owned by a woman.

Yeah.

Right? Like that feel if you're a woman

There's like a certain sense of safety.

Totally. And before we talk about the horrors that took place on December 10th, 1909 let's talk about the woman who took up residency at the Gribble boarding house because at the time of the attack, I

the women… the unfortunate victims

believe there were only three residents. The first is the owner, Eliza Gribble or Elizabeth.

Eliza.

Love it. Hamilton. At the center of all of this was the owner of the Gribble house, Eliza Gribble, who was born Elizabeth Gribble. Actually, not Gribble. She was born Elizabeth in Cornwall, England, but moved to America with her husband sometime before the Civil War. Then they settled in Savannah, Georgia. And I tried to find more about her and her husband, but I couldn't. All I know is that by 1909, Eliza was a widow. She had crossed an ocean, built a

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life in a new country, survived the Civil War, and now in her mid-60s, Eliza had to build something for herself to once again survive. That is why she turned her home into the Gribble house boarding house. And neighbors apparently knew Eliza well. She Like it wasn't unusual to walk past her house. This is so South, like Southern Georgia. But it wasn't unusual to pass by the house and see her sitting on the porch, like sure, with like a lemonade.

So nice.

Yeah.

It's kind of a dream, porch living.

I've been watching Southern Charm, which is another Bravo show. Cuz I'm a Bravo girl now. And

Bravo head now.

But I there's it just the lifestyle down in Charleston and like the South, it is so different. When it's like warm all year round, [clears throat] I feel like there people are on their porches all the time.

Yeah.

And outside. And I was just bed rotting watching it and I was like, "Wow."

I feel like a lot of people in the Northeast, like people used to say, "Oh, everyone goes to Florida to retire." And I feel like now it's kind of the

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Carolinas.

I get it.

Yeah.

Cuz you get like a hint of season.

Less alligator.

There's still a sprinkle of snow.

Yeah.

But you can golf most of the year.

Mhm.

And go on walks, go outside.

Yeah. I might need that.

Are you moving [laughter] already?

Um

You're going to take this couch with you.

Yeah, just the couch.

We'll saw it in half and then make it look like we're still together.

them in half, too?

[laughter]

He's already severed it.

He's already lost it.

Just the wrong way.

Yeah, go this way. Okay, but yeah, Eliza was a woman who kept to herself. She was just a woman trying to get by, but people knew of her. And then, the second resident was a woman named Carrie Olander, who was Eliza's 36-year-old daughter. And Carrie had recently separated from her husband, so she decided to move back with her mother

Mhm.

until she could figure out what to do next. That alone at the time was really unheard of.

So, she was going through a difficult time.

A woman separated from her husband? The scandal.

Gasp.

She was I'm glad that she got to move home, you know.

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Agree.

Sometimes people are exiled.

She was also partially deaf, which is a detail that comes in a little bit later, kind of. But, the third resident of the Gribble house at the time was a woman named Maggie Hunter. And Maggie was in a very similar situation to Carrie. She was just 34 years old and was leaving her third husband, a man named J.C. Hunter, who was 30 years older than her. I have a lot to say about that, but we'll get there. On December 9th, 1909, apparently, and this part of the story is a little bit unclear. Some people say that she moved into the house like the day before the attack. Others say it was like a period of time before that, but anyway, just before December 10th, which is when the murders happened, Maggie Hunter packed up her belongings and left her husband of 5 years. She wanted to start fresh, and she planned to support herself by becoming a seamstress. And apparently, she had a friend, or multiple friends, who were very in support of this move and like even

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helped her pay for her boarding at this boarding house. One of them specifically went by the name of Willie Walls. He paid for her first month's rent at the Gribble house, which I feel like says a lot about that marriage without having to say anything about it at all. Yes.

But so Maggie rented a room from Eliza Gribble and on December 9th, 1909, these three women were in the home and none of them knew that this would be their last night on Earth. December 10th, 1909 was

1909 Savannah axe murders - the true crime

an ordinary Friday in Savannah, Georgia. The area of Frogtown was busy as usual. People were going about their days. Nothing seemed out of place until a passing patrolman heard something, a scream.

When he first heard it, he like paused. He questioned it. Like, did I really hear that? It's busy day. Like, did I mistake what I heard?

Mhm.

But moments later, he hears a second muffled scream and so he starts to like turn in the direction of it to investigate and he realizes it's coming

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from the Gribble house. He approached the home with caution and heard that faint groaning coming louder the closer he got. When he reached the front door of the Gribble house, he saw that the door was partially ajar. So, he tried to push the door open a little bit further, but there was something blocking it and when he looked, he realized it wasn't something, it was someone.

Oh.

The body of Maggie Hunter. She was bleeding out from her skull, but still alive, barely. The groaning and screaming he had heard was coming from Maggie.

This is so horrible.

Horrified, the man ran to the nearby drugstore for help and back up and when police arrived, they were met with what newspapers that evening called the most diabolical crime in the history of Savannah.

And keep in mind, Savannah had seen so much bloodshed

Oh my god.

and so much murder and death. So, for this to be called the most diabolical crime in the history of Savannah, you know it's a big deal.

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Yes.

At the front door, Maggie Hunter was found with her skull crushed and her throat slit. Yet somehow, impossibly, she was still breathing, fighting to stay alive. She was rushed to get medical attention, but the police continued into the home and found in the hallway, they found 36-year-old Carrie Olander dead. Her throat had been slit and her skull crushed. Then in the back bedroom, police found Eliza Gribble's body. One paper said she was 73, but then when on when on her like find a grave, it said she was anywhere between 64 and 68 years old. So, somewhere between the 60s and 70s.

Mhm.

But she had been struck multiple times in the back of her head and was sitting in her chair. Her newspaper and reading glasses had fallen by her feet. So, it was very clear she'd never seen the intruder coming and she was just sitting in her chair reading her paper when she was attacked.

I hate this.

And then

It kind of reminds me of like the Ted

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Bundy sorority murders where he just like enters the home and kills who he can.

Yeah. So, people believe that Eliza Gribble was actually killed first and that maybe Carrie, her daughter, had like come downstairs to like see what was going on,

Mhm.

but because she was like hard of hearing, she like didn't really know where it was coming from.

Yeah.

And [snorts] then she was attacked in the hallway. And then Maggie, who was found by the door, was attacked last. The police also discovered the murder weapon that had been left at the scene of the crime, a bloody axe. This crime scene was so horrific and unlike anything people of Savannah had seen before. And I And I think it's because it's three women.

Well, and they're at a boarding house. Like they're not related to one another. So, it's like who was the target? Was anyone the target? Was this just like, "I'm going to go in here and murder everyone?" Or was one person supposed to be the victim and there were just other casualties?

That's what they wanted to find out. Three women brutally axed. And the crime

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scene was discovered early enough in the day on December 10th, 1909 that the story was printed on the front page of the evening's paper.

Wow.

And the people of Savannah were outraged.

Yeah.

By that night, people were gathering in mobs on a witch hunt for the perpetrator. And sadly, because it's 1909 in Savannah, Georgia, them white folk immediately assumed a black man was responsible for the crime. And 150 black men were rounded up and interrogated for the crime. As you can imagine, it got so ugly. And I found an article published in Colorado.

white?

Yeah.

They were looking for a reason to incite like race wars.

Yeah. I found an article published in Colorado the day after the murders happened. So, or 3 days after. So, December 13th. And the headline of the article said race war brewing, Savannah in uproar over crime committed by a negro. Like, that's what it said. And had it not been for Maggie Hunter still being barely

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alive, it is likely that an innocent man or multiple men would have been convicted for this crime.

Oh, man.

Yeah. But, Maggie Hunter was still somehow miraculously alive or fighting for her life. She was slipping in and out of consciousness, and doctors were not confident she was going to survive the first night. But, for 3 days, Maggie held on, her condition deteriorating with each passing day. But, Maggie found the energy to speak out because she had seen her attacker. She knew who her attacker was.

Oh, she could actually identify him. Like, personally known to her.

Who do you think it was?

Her ex-husband. Yeah.

Or husband, still. But, yeah. So, a pastor came

she'd only been living there for 1 day before he came?

That's what one report said, but she had not been living there long.

Okay.

Yeah. Which says a lot cuz it's like she had just left him.

And also like the fact that she was getting so much support from friends who were literally funding and doing whatever they could to help her escape.

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Yeah.

I'm not surprised, but it's really unfortunate to not be surprised by this.

It gets messy, messier than this. So, she's barely hanging on and she a pastor comes to visit her. And she opens her eyes, like she's slipping in and out of consciousness, and she looks at the pastor and tells him that the person who attacked her, the person who had murdered Eliza and Carey, was her husband, J.C. Hunter.

the killer & the police investigation

Immediately, police descend upon J.C. Hunter's residence to arrest him. But unfortunately, his work claimed that he was in the office at the time of the crimes, so like presumably giving him an alibi. So, police let him go. But then, like the same This is all happening like all at the same time, basically. They let him go, but then an eyewitness comes forward and said they saw Hunter standing outside the Gribble house the morning of the murders. So again, police go to arrest J.C. Hunter. And this time, they searched his home.

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And what do they find? They find blood-stained clothes hidden in his house and a bloody rag stuffed into his fireplace as if he had been trying to destroy evidence. So, they arrest Hunter again for the crime. Unfortunately, Maggie Hunter did not survive long enough to see justice served and after just 3 days, she did succumb to her wounds and died. But thank goodness she lived those extra days because truly, this man would have gotten away with it had she not been able to say his name.

Right. Although this is giving a little bit of Lizzie Borden with the whole like bloody rags and different evidence and it's like

Well, I'll say it up front. I have no doubt that this man did it.

Oh, yeah. No, this one makes total sense. It's like

won't be served the way that I want it to be. So, J.C. Hunter proclaimed innocence. So, police had to consider other suspects as well and they were doing an investigation, talking to witnesses.

So if you say you're innocent, you're you're good?

Yeah, if you have bloody rags in your

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But it's also there's no DNA testing. It's the 1909 like he probably had some like BS like reason why he had bloody rags.

My allergies.

[laughter]

I took Zyrtec and I started having nosebleeds. That's a me problem. So police had other suspects that they were looking into and by December 14th, so 4 days after the murders of 1909 they had three suspects in custody. And I'm going to talk about the main three. There are a couple more that they considered but like these were the main ones and these are the ones that were printed in the newspaper. This is the newspaper article.

Oh god, the way that it's like smeared in print and

[clears throat]

the scan of it makes it look so

creepy.

Very creepy.

Yeah.

Non-human.

Okay, well the three main suspects were Willie Walls, the one who had paid for Maggie's stay at the boarding house.

Mhm.

W. H. Coleman and of course J. C. Hunter. So we'll start with Willie Walls who was a good friend of Maggie's, possibly more

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than just a friend.

I was just going to say my prediction is that he set her up here, thought that now that he helped her out, he got a free pass to her Jemima. She said no and he got mad and murdered her.

So that's maybe one working theory, but he admitted to police that he had tried to visit Maggie the day of the murders but swore he had nothing to do with the attacks. So I think basically the evidence was that he paid for her boarding house and then he he knew her location. He knew her location and he was like there was like I guess a witness who came forward saying like Willie Walls was going to see Maggie that day. So it was like did he end up seeing her and killing her?

Yeah.

But there was no evidence to connect him to the crimes and despite that people were very suspicious or police were very suspicious of his relationship with Maggie, which is fair.

I agree.

Yeah, but also like if he's totally innocent and truly just like a good guy that's helping out a friend, that's so unfortunate,

It is, but police got to do their due diligence.

Right, like you shouldn't be too mad cuz

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you're like, well,

Yeah.

good, I hope that you look at every suspect like this find my friend's murderer.

And he was very cooperative. So, they're suspicious of him, but they don't have any evidence. Then there's WH Coleman, who was truly a wrong place, wrong time situation. I guess a streetcar conductor reported him to police because he boarded a trolley shortly after the murders took place in that area, like right by the house.

Mhm.

And I guess like he must have been acting strange or something, and the conductor was like, "There was a man who boarded my trolley at this time." And he must have known who he was, and they thought maybe he went to the house to rob the women. Like was that the

Mhm.

motive? That lead

Or did he see or hear something and he was in shock?

Not that he told the police.

Okay. Maybe he's just an eccentric guy.

Then there was JC Hunter, Maggie's estranged husband, who Maggie herself claimed was the one who attacked her. And the same person that police found bloody evidence inside his home. Let's talk about him.

a witness who saw him outside of the

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house

earlier that morning. Yep. Let's talk about him some more because as if there weren't already enough red flags, I'll give you more. So, his real name was actually David L. Taylor. He was a Civil War veteran who after the war turned to crime. He was convicted twice, once for stealing a horse, and another time for bigamy, which is marrying someone while still married to someone else. Says a lot about his character.

Yeah.

Stealing a horse is basically Grand Theft Auto those days, too.

[laughter]

So, like that's a very serious crime.

think about it. Wow. Does that change your perspective a little bit?

did.

Yeah, you're stealing someone's entire That is Grand Theft Auto.

transportation.

And so, as David L. Taylor, that was his original name, he spent some time in prison. And when he was released, he changed his name so as to like try to leave that part of his life behind him.

Sneaky little [ __ ]

Very. And then he married Maggie. He was 30

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years older than her, and this is so gross. Because Maggie was so much younger and looked so much younger, he used to joke that she was his daughter.

Sick.

When he was married to her.

She was his

wife. Freaking gross.

It's so sick.

I hate that so much.

Like that's not that's just not we just know. No. There's just no reason for that. I wrote

That is sick joke.

Freud would have so much to say about that.

Freud But Freud is kind of [ __ ] up.

Right. Sure. But I think a lot of therapists are also kind of [ __ ] up.

Yeah. [laughter]

Freud loves his mommy a little too much.

Little Oedipus situation there.

Okay. Lots of red flags. And then by all accounts, their marriage, Maggie and and J.C. Hunter's marriage, was deeply unhappy. Like multiple people reported that it was not a happy marriage. And also, we can tell it's not a happy marriage because after 5 years together, Maggie decided to pack up her things and leave.

Yeah.

So at first, Hunter denied seeing Maggie

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the day of the murders. And then all of a sudden he changed his story and was like, "Ah, yes, yes, yes, I did actually visit her in the morning of the murders because I just wanted to check in." And now he he This is the whole story he gave.

Check in or try to intimidate your ex by saying, "I know where you live."

Well, then murder her.

Here's his story, which is [ __ ] But he says that he had recently bought Maggie a sewing machine because Maggie told him that she would leave him alone if he bought her a sewing machine. Which implies that he wanted her to leave him alone.

But she's the one moving out and finding different housing away from him.

Right. So, anyway, he says he bought her this sewing machine because, like he said, she said if he bought this for her, she would leave him alone. But then he says he was going to check in on her to see how she liked her sewing machine. But why would you check in on someone you bought something for

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so they would stop talking to you? Don't talk to you.

If I could just get this guy between my [laughter] thighs. I'm telling you, lights out.

[laughter]

If that's the case, why would he go and check on her? Not only that, multiple people came forward with personal statements that proved Hunter was lying because he's now he changes his story saying that he did see her the morning of the murders to check in on her. But multiple people come forward and say that's not possible because Maggie had plans and did things with other people that morning. First, she got breakfast with her sister and then actually went and stopped by three houses in the neighborhood trying to sell some cloth to make money.

Also, there are other people living in this house. Like if he Yeah, fishy story, he's the murderer.

Yes. On top of that, multiple witnesses came forward to claim that Hunter had had threatened to kill Maggie multiple times prior to the murders. So, you would think with all of this evidence, like it feels so black and white to me. There's no gray area. Like this is our guy. You would think

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Yeah.

you have a better chance of winning the lottery than to have some guy who has all of these red flags and all of these things lining up and then someone else randomly comes in and murders your ex-wife.

No.

So, you would think yeah, they have their guy, right? But police wanted to really be sure, so they decided to run some tests. So, at this point, they had these three men in custody and because they had the men in custody, they had not heard that Maggie died. So, they decided to take their main suspects and I'll specifically focus on J.C. Hunter and Willie Walls because those were like their main suspects. They decided to take these two men down to the morgue to show them Maggie's body and see how they acted because they were so certain that no murderer could be in the same room as their victim and see their dead victim and not confess.

Interesting.

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Very wrong given how some murderers like to go back and visit the dead bodies and carry trinkets from them.

They're still learning. They bring J.C. Hunter in first who he, according to them, appears genuinely surprised that Maggie had died. And he looks up to the police and is like, "When did she die?" And he was reported have gone back to his cell sobbing without uttering another word. So, they're like, "Okay, well, based on our theory, he's not the killer, right?"

Hm.

But then they bring in Willie Walls to see Maggie's body. And again, he had no knowledge that she had died. And upon seeing her body, he like sinks into a chair next to her very somber and takes her hand into his. And basically like really sadly is like, "I am so sorry. You were such a good friend to me. Like, I love you." It's intimate, heartbreaking. And he too went back to his cell in tears. So, now police are like, "Well, [ __ ] That theory didn't really play out as we thought it would."

Right.

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And also one of the guys like doesn't even know her. He was just wrong place

Yeah, wrong time.

I don't think they brought him to see the body cuz I think at that point they kind of ruled him out.

Oh, okay. Okay.

Yeah. So, it was just two, not the not the three.

So, they didn't really learn anything from their test. It's 1909. Investigative tools weren't quite what they are today. So, they decide to run another test. And this test required bringing the suspects back to the scene of the crime. And this is the first ghost setting ever reported in the house.

the first ghost at the Gribble House

Oh my god, is she going to Zena Heaster shoe this situation, it's not how you expect. I teased it already. So, allegedly, police brought the suspects back into the Gribble house and they had put cloth over the windows to make it really dark inside. They they kind of created a haunted house.

Mhm.

They reconstructed the scene of the murders by placing three wax figures on the floor and dressed them into similar outfits that the women had been wearing at the time of their deaths or their murders and then covered them in animals blood.

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Jeez.

The suspects were said to have been brought into the house one by one and again, police wanted to see how they reacted. And as they brought one of the suspects in, all of a sudden, a ghostly apparition appeared. Except it wasn't a real ghost. It was an actor hired by police to pretend to be a ghost to elicit a reaction.

Oh my god. How like what is the job posting for that?

Is that not amazing?

It's so cool.

It's crazy, brilliant, very creative tactic. It's like

These guys were theater majors before they had to go into law enforcement.

I mean, they put a lot of effort to recreate this crime

is a this is a play.

play. It's an immersive theater experience.

It's almost like they're actors pretending to be detectives

[laughter]

writing their own like investigative crime show.

I know. And I have to say, this is one of my favorite details of the entire story, but I only found it on like one source.

I don't care.

Right. I couldn't verify it 100%.

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newsroom, it wouldn't get through.

Exactly.

But I'm I'm telling you that I can't verify it, but I'm sharing it with you because it's such an incredible detail that even if it's been like added into the story or the tours over the years, great dramatics. Again, whether it's true or not, police still don't have the like response that they wanted or thought they were going to get from

Mhm.

Ultimately, police do focus on J.C. Hunter because the evidence really was piling up against him. So, again, in the days following the crime, not only did Maggie say he was the attacker, not only did the police find bloody evidence in his home, but there was other information that came forward. Even though those two things alone, again, granted, I'm not an investigator, probably for a good reason, but those two things alone, I'm like, lock him up. Well, we don't need to hear any more. But, okay, the other pieces of information. Hunter lied about seeing Maggie the morning of the murder, and his cane was found inside the home at the crime scene, which he claimed was

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because he had visited just visited to check in and left it behind.

This is an interesting detail, him having a cane. Why did he need one? What was his mobility and physical

I think I mean, enough to murder three people.

Well, that's what I was just wondering.

Yeah. It was an accessory, not a I don't know, I'm making that up. But, I I feel like canes were accessories. Like, if you're going to a fancy event,

Yeah, get a grand old cane.

Yeah.

And your cigar.

Yeah. The third thing is that it was learned that Hunter had actually done some work inside the home like years prior, some type of like construction work. So, he knew the in like the ins and outs of the house.

And then there were multiple people who had come forward saying that they knew Hunter had made multiple threats to kill Maggie prior to the murder.

justice is served

So, finally, 8 months after the murders, on August 17th, 1910, a jury found J.C. Hunter guilty of murder and was sentenced to death by hanging. But, if you think that that means justice was

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served, it was not. Because he continues to claim he's innocent. And on December 22nd, 1911, the day before his execution was set to happen, he asked to be baptized. And the same pastor who sat by Maggie as she was dying, the same pastor that Maggie told who her her was or her attacker was, that pastor, that same pastor, goes to see J.C. Hunter the day before his set execution. And despite being the one who heard Maggie verbatim say her attacker, the murderer, was J.C. Hunter, this pastor thought that Hunter was innocent. So much so that I guess he had spoken to the governor and was able to get J.C. Hunter's sentencing reduced to life in prison rather than him being executed.

Were they like in a secret romance? Like what is the motive here?

Toxic masculinity? I don't know. I mean, can you go to hell for helping a murderer almost go free?

Honestly, I feel like hell is spirits of

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women like you and me who just attack the terrible people on the paranormal plane.

Dude, I freaking love that.

I'm a ghost, that's a show I'd watch. That That would be great.

Like Spider-Man of

[laughter]

I'm ghost spirits.

There's a guy who made a Tik Tok, of course I don't remember his name or many of the details. But he basically did like a re-enactment of someone going to hell and Satan being like, This is what we have here. You're going to witness this. And it's like, oh, we have that up there.

[laughter]

And he's like, okay. And it's just like listing the most atrocious, horrific, like violent things. And it's like,

Got that on Earth.

Yeah, it's happening

right now.

We already It's a big thing. No one's doing anything about it.

I like that concept.

Yeah. And Satan's like, Jesus.

Life is a little bit hell.

need Jesus.

[laughter]

WWJD

What?

Someone yesterday that was like, [laughter] Do you think that Jesus ever looks at Earth and considers coming back, but then sees how many people have crosses

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everywhere and is like, well, I'm not going back there. These people love that [ __ ]

[laughter]

I'm not religious, but I enjoy religious jokes.

Yes. Me, too. Okay. So, this man now is his sentencing is reduced to life in prison. But then, on October 27th, 1923, Hunter was pardoned and released.

Pardoned? Why? Doesn't that mean like all crimes were like dropped?

Yeah. Like the president's like, "Oh, it's okay."

So, does that mean that it's like a cold case now? Or it's like he did do it and

And they just decided that

All good. You killed three women, but you can live in the world.

you. Change your identity again and go off and do your thing.

Crazy. So, yeah.

Like, what was the reason for being pardoned?

I've no idea. And it did happen like some, what, 17 years later, but still, crazy. Apparently, during the time that he was in prison, another man named J.C. Garvin walked into the police station 8 years after the murders took place, and

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he confessed to committing the murders along with an accomplice.

Huh.

And he apparently had knowledge of like the layout of the house and details that like weren't publicly released. But by the end of it, they were like, "This is like ramblings of a mad person." Like he

Yeah, and enough time passed that like you probably Yeah.

Yeah. So, in a way, justice was never really served.

Okay, but when when the Hunter guy gets out, is he like in his 80s? Mid-80s then?

I don't know.

Cuz if he was 30 years older, and she was what, 36 when she died?

34, yeah.

Or 34?

So, she Yeah, probably 80-something.

was 17 years after.

I don't know what happened to him. He died. And the story is not about him anymore. Um So, almost immediately after the

hauntings begin - gribble house post murders

murders, hauntings do begin. Like non-paid actor hauntings. All three women, Eliza Gribble, Carrie Olander, and Maggie Hunter, were buried at Laurel Grove Cemetery. But this is like very sad. Like you wouldn't know where their graves are.

Oh, why?

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I tried to look them all up on Find a Grave. I could only find Eliza's grave, and it's a flat stone in the grass with a number 91 on it.

Why? They know who it is.

Like it might have been no one could pay for it. Her daughter died, too. I don't know. But I couldn't find what Carrie or Maggie's graves looked like either.

That's such a bummer.

It's sad. And as we've discussed, this horrific crime scene really, really shook the city of Savannah. So much so that it almost led to a race war, although I think they were looking for any reason to incite one. But it was so callous and bloody, they hadn't seen anything like it. And that's really saying something given Savannah's gruesome history. Despite this public reaction, despite how much it like shook the city, just a couple weeks later, the Gribble House was open again as a boarding house.

Who was running it?

I don't I don't know.

Just some other random person went into cleaned up the blood and was like, here we go.

People moved back in, paid their rent, lived and slept in the very rooms that those three innocent women had been

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murdered in. And almost immediately, hauntings began. Again, like I said, this time real ghosts, not hired actors. Tenants who rented the rooms after the murders reported blood stains appearing on the walls. Like even if they would clean it, they would reappear. And misty apparitions wandering through the halls. And this happened constantly in the same spots. And like the news of the hauntings were spreading through the city. Like everyone was hearing these stories. There was even a newspaper article some 60 years after the murders took place in 1975 where a journalist spoke with a woman named Mrs. Bondzees who had grown up near the house. And she remembers growing up listening to her mother and grandmother talking about stories of the ghosts at the Gribble House that they had seen with their own eyes.

Wow.

[sighs and gasps]

Yeah.

It's like one of those things where I'm like, are the spirits the women who were murdered? Or because such a horrific thing happened here, did it just kind of like open up a portal for other things to come in and stay?

Well, I do think that's why it's important to like remember the history

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of Savannah, which is already a super haunted place and saw so much bloodshed over the years that I think Savannah is a portal already. So

That's true.

did this murder happen and there's just like a loop, like a residual haunting that's still living there?

Yeah, it kind of makes it hard to identify

Yes.

spirits.

And so we'll talk about because there are more now and we'll talk about that. But so the house over time fell into further disrepair. Like it was already kind of falling apart back in 1909 and despite people continuing to live in it, the home was not well maintained. So in 1941, the decision was made to demolish the building and a couple of surrounding buildings in the area to build something new, a warehouse. And at first it served as an automotive center, like a service center, then it became a car barn for Old Town Trolley Tours. But try as you might to get rid of an old haunted building, those spirits are going to continue to show up and that is exactly what happened here. From the very first day, the warehouse

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seemed to be occupied by some otherworldly residents. One person described seeing a massive black mass emerge from between two parked trolley cars and then poof, it disappeared. And there is a video of this, but I think it's a recreation that was made for Ghost Adventures, so I'm not going to show it.

Yeah.

But the person does talk about the experience on Ghost Adventures.

Okay.

People would hear voices when they were alone, unexplained cold spots, the feeling of being watched, shadows. People got headaches, there were orbs, people were touched, pushed and once again, those mysterious red stains continued to appear. It was undeniably haunted and once again, locals began to talk and everyone seemed to believe that these hauntings were all connected to the Gribble House that stood where the warehouse now stood.

And this is like decades after.

Yeah. Yeah.

Wow.

So naturally, paranormal investigators wanted to see what is up and they decided to investigate and they found so much paranormal activity that they they were like, you know what?

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Instead of just investigating it, let's actually buy this warehouse up and dedicate it to paranormal investigations.

That's kind of cool.

It is.

cool, but then also I'm like it's the same thing that we have talked about before where we like we love when there's a place set up where you recognize that it's haunted and it gives access to people like us who want to go investigate, but then you also open it up to people who are taking advantage of the situation and maybe not approaching the spirits in the nicest of ways.

Definitely. And when I Googled it, it said permanently closed. So I don't know what the status is right now. Because it was owned by a paranormal experience agency for years. But yeah, I don't know. It It did say Google said permanently closed. So I don't know.

All of us together.

in. So despite it the unknown status of it right now, it was open as a paranormal experience for many, many years. And over time they discovered it wasn't just haunted by the residual energy or the spirits of the women who

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were murdered in the Gribble House, but actually haunted by upwards of 20 to 30 different spirits.

That is so many.

the many spirits of the warehouse

Because like I said, this warehouse

that?

I think just based on the different types of hauntings, they were like maybe there's this many.

Mhm.

I don't know. But like I said, this warehouse is built on top of the Gribble House and on top of some of the surrounding area. So there were multiple buildings that were demolished for this warehouse.

Which can definitely stir up some activity.

Right. And then there's like the history of these other homes that we don't know and aren't familiar with that are contributing to the hauntings. This was a 15,000 square foot warehouse. So it's big.

Dang.

It's located at 234 Martin Luther King Boulevard. And like I said, it's been investigated by so many including Ghost Adventures. If you want to watch it, season 10 episode 11. And they also investigate the Sorrel Weed House, which

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is like infamously haunted in Savannah. But everyone seems to agree this warehouse where the Gribble House once stood is one of the most haunted areas and haunted buildings in Savannah. So let's start with the haunting connected to the Gribble House, the three women. Eliza, Carrie, and Maggie. And it's not clear I mean this is the hard thing with the paranormal is like you can't definitively say, "Ah, yes that is the spirit of Eliza."

Right.

But people have heard a woman crying and it's loud enough for people to stop and like literally think it's someone on the tour or the investigation with them.

Wow.

People have also caught EVPs of voices saying, "Help us." I know. Which I really hope it's just residual, but like the help us could be a residual cry from Maggie as she was like bleeding out

Yeah.

calling for help because that's how a patrolman heard or like found the crime scene. And then there is that blood-red stain that continues to appears on walls and in the floor of the warehouse in and this is like specifically in the area

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that was once the Gribble House. So everyone attributes that to the house. And granted that was a haunting that was also claimed before the house was ever demolished.

Then there is a lady in white who is often seen standing in one of the corners of the warehouse and no one knows who she is and apparently she doesn't look like any of the three women who were murdered, but I could not find photos of those women anywhere.

Granted

I didn't go to like Savannah history archive in person to find them, but

like I don't think people were frequently photographed like the the time period in which it was. It's like

Yeah. Even the photos of the suspects are like super blurry and not clear.

Yeah.

But this woman just stands there. She doesn't move. She doesn't interact with people. Like she just stands in the corner and doesn't really seem to acknowledge the presence of humans or living beings. There are many other hauntings. There's a child named Timothy. Like so many people who have investigated this warehouse have caught EVPs of a child

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saying the name Timothy. No one really knows who he is or why he's there or why he keeps showing up, but one thing is for sure he loves to let people know his name is Timothy. Timothy. Timothy. Then one of the most common and actually heavy hauntings in this warehouse has absolutely nothing to do with the Grebble House. So one other building that was demolished in order for the warehouse to be built was apparently, and again, this is like there's no like document that I have to prove it, was apparently used as slave quarters in history. And this area of the warehouse is especially active and heavy. And the hauntings like vary. It almost feels like there are multiple spirits here haunting because some voices will say get out. People will report being touched or pushed. In the Ghost Adventures episode, there's a man who used to work at the warehouse and he reported that hauntings there were very different, but he tried to stay away from that area because he felt like there were racist spirits.

Well, I mean Oh, it's so upsetting that cuz I feel

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like the thought is when you cross over to the other side, there's going to be some sort of like all knowing or enlightenment. I just hate the idea that someone can be still so

Well, isn't that the the other theory is that if you're stuck here as a ghost, you're kind of stuck in purgatory and like haven't released your baggage so you haven't been able to be enlightened? I don't know.

Don't be a racist bigot.

In any life you may be able to move on.

In life or in the paranormal.

Yeah, just stop.

But yeah, so this guy said that like there would be racist spirits and like racist energy towards him, but then there were also other It almost felt like a motherly spirit there as well, like caring. Like people would feel like their hair brushed or like just gentle touch. But then on the opposite end of the spectrum was like aggressive pushes and voices yelling get out.

And of course it wouldn't be Savannah without a couple of soldier ghosts as well.

Mhm.

I found a post on Reddit from August of

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2013 who they went and visited the Gribble House. They went in as a skeptic. And then I guess towards the end of the investigation they were alone in a corner of the warehouse when through whatever spirit box or tool they were given for the investigation, they start communicating with the spirit who said that they were a soldier. And this guy being like, I don't really know if I buy this. Like, come closer to me. Like step closer. And almost instantly this guy describes feeling as if something went through him. Like an energy truly passed through him as he asked the spirit to step closer.

So they're active. They're intelligent. They're actually interacting with what is being said.

Yeah.

It's not just like a residual

I mean some are residual.

Yeah.

But like this type of spirit, the soldier

Something's there.

Yeah.

Well, I just feel like so many soldier stories are residual where it's like you're seeing them march or you're seeing them It's like they don't even notice that you're there.

Or it's um a glitch in the matrix or glitch in the timelines.

Mhm.

And they like get confused and like they're in the middle of battle in their

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timeline and all of a sudden they're like in a beautiful park that you're strolling on a weekend trying to go feed the ducks.

Right. They're like Who is this [ __ ] in the

Excuse me.

French braids with [laughter] her braces and Paul Frank monkey shirt.

Are you taking from a time in your life?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That was me when I was nine.

But yeah, so that user from Reddit left that night being a full believer in the paranormal.

Wow.

That is the tragic murder and haunting history of the Gribble House that is now a very haunted warehouse that questionably you could go visit now, but Google says it's permanently closed.

Being called a warehouse keeps tripping me up cuz it was like open for other people to investigate.

I know. Like warehouse I think of

Oh, like Amazon or lumber or like Amazon. Yeah, like something being kept there, not just like

Well, it used to be. It used to be like an automa- automotive service center. So, like it used to be

But they still call it the warehouse.

I know. Well, some people still call it the Gribble house and I'm like, "Well, it's not the Gribble house anymore." Even when we were like cuz we're researching so many episodes right now,

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even when we were preparing to go record this episode I was like, "What is my topic?" I forget.

And you're like, "Oh, it's some house." I'm like, "I don't think it's a house because it's like now it's a it's a warehouse.

house.

It's a warehouse. But yeah, tragic.

That is very tragic. I feel so horrible for those women.

I do really hope that

of pissed that guy got off.

No, I'm very pissed about that. [ __ ] [clears throat] J.C. Hunter.

[ __ ] [snorts] you.

If I find you on the other side when I'm over there,

I can't thigh crush you.

I can't thigh crush, but I can poke your eyes out.

She can drop it all fours moo like a cow and

[laughter]

bite off your ween.

That's true. God save the pie.

That's Sabrina's [laughter] MO.

Okay, I have a

ween biter.

I have a a request. I hate when people say they're being a weenie pee.

Pee. Like a pee. Like a

I hate saying it.

Oh, p u s s y.

Yeah. Like I hate

like that word either.

I hate Well, and it's also like such a one, it's such a condescending like horrible insult because it's implying

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that like a [ __ ] is like a negative thing. And two, it's so wrong because the [ __ ] actually is like the strongest thing and is so adaptable and deals with literal poundings and stretching and like birthing children. Whereas the testicles are the most like pathetic, sensitive little thing.

Mhm.

So, my request is that instead of calling people a [ __ ] we call them a testicle. Stop being a testicle.

You all you testies out there.

You're being such a testicle right now.

I actually remember the first time I ever learned what like [ __ ] meant in a derogatory And it was when I was at the movies with some of my [laughter] guy friends. I was like 12.

Yeah.

And we went and saw Mr. and Mrs. Smith. And they're like arguing on the rooftop.

Yeah.

And then one of them calls the other one [ __ ] And all the guys are snickering and I was like, I don't get it. And they had to explain it to me and I was so embarrassed.

Well, those words are like mean. And it's wrong. Like it's factually

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inaccurate.

Yeah.

Scientifically wrong.

There's a lot that's even religiously wrong. Like

Agreed.

It Everything is wrong. And now we get to listen to EVPs to make us feel better.

EVPs?

There's a lot of them.

Wait, I'm excited.

listener story & EVPs

Okay, this is from Yvonne. Yvonne [laughter] puts F32. Like it's like a forum. Like female 32.

Reddit?

[laughter]

Okay, my name is Yvonne and I've experienced a few different encounters over the years from things like seeing a lady that lived in my best friend's old parents' house 20 years ago to just a couple years ago seeing my dad after he passed.

Mhm.

I also talked to my dad's sister when I was young. But this story is about a paranormal investigation that I did in Savannah, Georgia in 2013 and I wasn't thinking anything would actually happen. So the week of St. Patrick's Day 2013, myself, my mom, my brother, and a couple of my mom's friends, and my roommates at

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the time decide that we're going to go check out Savannah for the holiday because they normally have really fun things going on.

Don't tell Corinne you didn't invite her. She will never forget.

I'm really good at holding grudges.

[laughter]

My dad once ate my Key Lime pie that I waited like 45 minutes for.

[gasps]

Never forget.

I remember that story. And I can see I like physically your demeanor has changed when you talk about

Like my shoulders have increased. I'm feeling the stress.

That's repressed trauma.

[laughter]

You're

How do you not know the difference between the your plain that you ordered and a key lime pie.

I feel like this is physical evidence of the body keeps the score.

Oh my god. [laughter]

[gasps]

And then I didn't get another one cuz we were Okay, whatever. I'm over it. My dad's in Key West, if he doesn't bring me a freaking key lime pie fresh, I'm going to be pissed forever. More than already [laughter] have.

When we were in Florida, someone literally bought an entire key lime pie for for you.

Yeah, I know.

That was very nice.

coming, guys. Cuz everyone has to make up for every single

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[laughter]

single mistake in this life.

That's when you know you have a

a good dad when your like traumatic event is eating your [laughter] key lime Yes.

I wish that was mine.

I'm sorry. And also, one time when I was like six, we were on one of those like fake submarine things at like Disney World or one of those places, and I was looking out the window, and then I backed up to go sit on one of the chairs, but it was a metal one that that the seat folds back up, and I went to sit without looking, and I fell on the ground, and he pointed and laughed at me. I will never forget that, either.

I probably would have done that, too.

No. Not okay, dad.

[laughter and clears throat]

I remember these things.

Again, in the grand scheme of things, great things to be mad [laughter] about.

He ate my key lime pie.

[laughter]

A ferocious fatherly behavior.

Okay, anyway. So, I've been into the paranormal, and I was super excited because if you know anything about Savannah, you'll know that it's very haunted because of its history. We went

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on a few walking tours, and we learned the history, but nothing super spooky happened. At least during the day. So, my mom was looking online, and she booked my roommate and I a ghost tour {slash} paranormal experience at the Gribble House. Because it was some 16 years ago or so, the history of it is a little bit foggy to me.

Don't worry, I got it covered.

But, here's my experience. Like I said, my mom booked us this experience, and we went into it with an open mind, but also not expecting to experience anything. We walked in, and they asked us before we walked in to not say our names at all, and to just give them the booking number so that they can see our reservation.

And not say your names, why?

I don't know, maybe for like evidence collection.

To not let the ghosts know your names?

I guess. So, we got started, and I want to say we had three groups of five people in the warehouse. They had different spots set up with different kinds of interactive paranormal equipment, but every spot had a spirit box for collecting EVPs. Our group started in the middle of the warehouse

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with a bear that if you touched it, it would light up.

Oh, it's kind of like a REM pod. I feel like it's a customized REM pod.

That looks like a bear?

Yeah.

Interesting. So, we asked a few questions, and we're getting some responses, and I do have a whole folder of EVPs that I've sent you, which we'll play at the end cuz there's a bunch of little ones.

So, this is we want you to send your invest your evidence to us.

Please.

So, the investigator says, "Who was the president?" The spirit responds, "Democrat." So, we weren't trying to ask super complicated questions or anything. We were just trying to get some accurate answers. So, the investigator asks, "What's your name?" And the spirit says, "Husband." And in my notes, I wrote that this was taken in the Gribble House area, which is in the center of the warehouse.

And Maggie's husband is the killer.

I will say it was a Democrat.

[laughter]

But, it's just the two answers the spirit gave.

[laughter]

Okay. So, then we went over to the creepy stairwell, and when I first walked in, I got this really bad sinking

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feeling that someone was watching me. I said something to my roommate, and she kind of just brushed me off and told me, "Just drink some water." Which I did. And we continued talking to the spirit, but then I got this overwhelming sense of dread again, and that was even worse than when we first walked in.

Mhm.

And then I heard a whisper and some pressure on my back, but I couldn't make out what it said, and I just jumped and turned around thinking there was behind me, but there was no one. It was just a wall behind me.

Oh.

And then a voice came through the spirit box. It said, "Something's coming."

Oh. Oh, that's so unsettling.

The investigator said, "Something's coming?" And I got so dizzy after that voice came out that I had to actually walk out of the building for a minute. So, after about 5 or 10 minutes, I started to feel better. I decided, "Okay, I can go back in." And this is where it gets a bit of a turn. I meet back up with our group in into what the guide says used to be slave quarters. And I should also mention that I am mixed race. My mom is white, my dad is black, and my dad also

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is Native American. And everyone else in the group that we are with was white. In the room, we had a few candles, and there were chairs sitting in a circle, eight chairs total. And then the five of us, the guide, and then the REM pod sat on one of the chairs, and then there was an empty chair next to it. So, we sat in this half circle all facing the REM pod, and everyone took turns sitting next to it. Nobody was getting any responses from the spirit box or any reaction from the REM pod. Then the guide is telling us a story about the history of the spirits that they've been contacting, and one of the main spirits there is named Tom. He's known to be a little bit funny, and he's known to mess with people. Now, of course, I was last to sit next to the REM pod. It lit up. It's going crazy. There are sounds coming through the spirit box, but nothing that we could understand because the REM pod was just so loud. So, we even switched from me to a couple of other people, but every time I would sit next to the REM pod, it would light up and start beeping. So, then we turned the REM pod off and we asked the spirit a question. The

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investigator said, "Is your name Tom?" And the spirit said, "Nate." And the investigator said, "Nate, who is here?" And the spirit said, "Yvonne." It said my name.

Oh my gosh.

I started getting dizzy again. I was feeling freezing, my back burned, and then I blacked out.

No.

The staff and my roommate said that I walked out to the front to get into a comfortable spot, but I was like a zombie. And then 10 minutes later, I remember coming to and being really confused about how I even got to the front. So, they gave me some water and a snack, told me that I went completely white, and I honestly don't remember anything after it said my name until I came to. So, it's 10 minutes of missing time. Yeah.

[laughter]

I've experienced things in the past, but nothing like this. Oh my gosh. And then I was like, "Okay, well, I think I'm done." And the staff was like, "Uh yeah, you got to be cuz we're not letting you back in."

Do you get your money back if you get possessed at a paranormal [laughter] investigation?

Yeah, what does the waiver say?

Yeah.

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So, my roommates and I head back to the hotel. I feel like I'm not even in my own body. I feel like this is worse than disassociating. I feel like I'm seeing myself from and if you've seen Get Out, like that sunken place is the best way to put it.

Oh, jeez.

So, we got back to the hotel, and my mom is asking how it went, and we told her, and she put it down to just me being dramatic and kind of helped us trying to rationalize everything. She's laughing it off, not really thinking about it. And so, now I'm trying to not really think about it. So, I decided to hop in the shower and get ready for bed. Keep in mind, I was in a jacket when I had this experience, and I changed into a tank top to go to bed. I was about to turn out the lights when my roommate gasped. There were three big scratches down my shoulder.

Oh.

We took a picture of it, but I don't have that phone anymore, and my iCloud doesn't go back that far. So, unfortunately, I have lost that. I had the worst dreams that night, very, very violent. I woke up panicking a few

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times, but then I would just walk around for a minute, calm myself down, go back to sleep, and then have another nightmare. And I still have nightmares about that place.

What the heck?

But yeah, that's the end of my experience. I never really told many people, but listening to you ladies kind of brought that experience back up and I even tried going back to the Gribble house since I'm not too far from it, but it permanently closed a few years ago.

Okay, so there's the status update.

Yes. This is from Yvonne and then we have an entire zip folder of EVPs.

Do we have the one that says Yvonne?

Let me look. They're all labeled. So we'll try to listen to a few.

Cuz I'm so curious about like what entity came through.

We do have Yvonne.

Okay.

God, okay. Is your name Tom? Nate?

Nate.

Nate, who's here?

Yvonne.

Yes, I'm here.

Okay, and then I'll play the one that says something's coming. And then there's a few others. Okay. We'll just

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play

Something's coming?

Yeah.

Something's coming?

Yeah.

Oh my god, that's so clear.

It says coming.

It's so clear. It's really hard male voice.

Apparently people were hearing EVPs in episode 371, which is our Harold part one.

Oh, [ __ ] I don't want to hear that.

And it's before we even start talking about Harold.

What did they say?

I don't People say they heard a man's voice. I tried relistening multiple times. I could not hear it. It like to me I'm like it could be you just breathing, but I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's like right as we're about to transition.

I feel like people hear EVPs and it's me like

making a remark under my breath or something. Whatever. No, but like I hear you breathing and people have said they heard that, but it's not that. So I don't know. Anyway, if you also like if you hear EVPs in our episodes, like do a recording of it. You can do like a screen record and like send it to us.

when people timestamp it, it's really hard because with ads like not everyone

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gets the same ads, so if you're like it's at minute 3:36, it could be like 4:07 for someone else.

Screen record it and send it to us and we'll compile those.

Okay.

Yeah, someone heard a man's voice.

Oh my god.

It's like right as we're transitioning into talking about Harold.

Dang.

Yeah.

[sighs]

I just got the chills.

Something's coming. Something's coming.

And something did come for Yvonne. That's so scary.

Yeah.

I love that Yvonne wanted to go back.

Well, I am curious because yes, it's permanently closed, but you could go set up outside in the parking lot of this place.

True.

But it sounds like I mean, cuz Yvonne went outside to collect herself multiple times. So it almost seems like outside is okay. But how hungry are the spirits if it's been years since anyone's gone in and

Since they got to feed on your energy.

Yeah.

Dang.

Could you imagine how sad is a spirit? Like if especially if you're a very active spirit and you if you're stuck cuz we don't know the rules, but if you're stuck in a place and you're used to tons and tons of

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people coming to visit you. Like You're excited.

to chat with today?

Yeah.

And then all of a sudden all of a sudden

in the forecast the silence.

It's nothing.

How lonely would you be?

Well, it sounds like there's like 30-some spirits here. So

That's true.

Maybe not super lonely, but maybe not the people that you want to be around.

But I think about like little Timothy who was so excited to tell everyone

Timothy's way.

But it's Timothy.

[laughter]

Who was so excited

Yeah. I hope the spirits are all okay.

What a wild story.

That's the Gribble House in Savannah.

And one day we'll go back.

One day you'll go back.

And I'll go for my very first time.

[laughter]

And you owe me a key lime pie when we're

I'll get you a key lime pie. Now I know what your birthday gift this year is. I'm just going to get you a key lime pie.

There's no amount that will make me forget.

No. You can never forget.

[laughter]

Uh I'm trying to think if I have something like in my memory that's similar to that and everything I hold on to is like way more intense and like NSFW. Like we're

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not not for this podcast. [laughter]

But

hope one day someone steals your key and I die and it will erase some of the other tragic memories. [laughter]

I need some like new better trauma. Actually, I will say I was I used to run so much. Like I was a marathon runner and I think it was because it was so therapeutic for me. Like it was my version of meditation. It was like the one time where my brain was not just like completely absorbed in dark thoughts.

But I don't like running as much anymore. And I think it's because I've healed. I don't need to go do long runs

Right.

to clear my mind.

Well, that's great.

I know. I was like, "How exciting."

I feel like it's not that good for you to be a marathon runner, right?

No, but after watching I went to go watch the Boston Marathon. And I cried. Like I was just like it's such a beautiful I it was my first time experiencing like Marathon Monday in Boston and how alive the city becomes and watching these

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runners who are so incredibly fast who are running speeds for 2 hours that I can hardly hold for 30 seconds. And

insane. And like their bodies don't even look like they're working. Like you know they're working so hard, but you're like, "How is your brain still connecting appropriately to your legs and like making you move forward like that?"

It's insanity. But I was watching it and I was like I started the morning being like, "Next year I really want to volunteer and like be a volunteer during the marathon." By the waters. By the end, I was like, "I want to run the Boston [laughter] Marathon."

Well, I'll say one of the one of my Boston Marathon Monday traditions was we would go out to eat in the North End.

Mhm.

And it would just the restaurants would be filled with the people who ran the marathon. Just gorgeous themselves on Boston

Like the next couple of days everyone was walking around Newbury Street and like Boston with their medals around their necks. Like

Yeah. And you can tell who cuz most of

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them are limping. So you know [laughter] who ran.

Yeah. I it was very very special. Um and then I ran a couple times this week and I was like, you know, I think like the three to five mile range is where I'm going to stay.

That's wonderfully healthy.

Yeah. Maybe one day I'll run another marathon, but

Could do half.

I need someone to eat my Key Lime Pie first.

[laughter]

Then I'll really have to rage.

[gasps]

Oh man. So dramatic.

Well, thank you everyone for joining us. If you have paranormal experiences, if you hear EVPs in our podcast, please send them to us. Email everything to twogirlsoneghostpodcast@gmail.com. But also if you want episodes one week early and ad-free, you can join us over on Patreon. We also have bonus content and weekly campfire stories where you can come share your ghost story with us live. We have book club, we have witch class, so much more. To join us over there, you can watch us on YouTube, rate and review us on iTunes, tell all your friends about us, and you know, build the pyramid scheme.

Thank you to Jimmy Ryan who edits and produces this podcast. And thank you to

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all of you for coming back every week and sending us your hauntings.

We love you all.

And we will see you on the other side.

Very spooky.