As* Monsters, Poltergeist Activity and EVPs | Haunted with Roz Hernandez

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very spooky hi hey it's us it's us for another special spooky episode of haunted with and this episode we are haunted with Roz Hernandez from ghosted ghosted by Roz Hernandez we did a two-parter so this is part one or two it doesn't matter which order you listen to We Karin and I were on Roz's podcast and she challenged us with some EVPs some haunted dolls and we talked

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all things all things ghosts and paranormal Ross is bringing some healthy skepticism to us yes and so this was good we got to talk about Cryptids we got to talk about ghosts we got to talk about what in the hell our ghost even yeah do we conjure them are we powerful is this a simulation do we live in a simulation am I about to have a mental breakdown after this episode I don't know all of us I'm I'm constantly on the verge of a mental breakdown what are you talking about we're in this together minty Breeze baby but anyway we hope you enjoy this episode with Roz she's fabulous if you are curious at what the heck she's hinting at go check out and follow Roz on her Instagram and on the podcast feed ghosted by Roz Hernandez to find out what spooky stuff she is up to and we also joined Roz over on her Channel too so go check it out yes here are all the EVPs and the fun ghost

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stories we've brought over there and we love you all enjoy bye um hi Roz hey how are you I feel like we should do this weekly I love that we got to hang out with you last week and now you're with us and there's no better way to hang out than spend it talking about ghosts yeah I mean let's do it every single week why not when we were on your feed you teased us so much about how many places you've been to and how many hauntings you've experienced and although you're a skeptic you have been in the Paranormal world for so long that we just want to pick your brain please pick it away yeah it's a little awkward because I I haven't talked much about this but I have spent a couple of months paranormal investigating in a lot of locations for a project a very fun exciting project that at the time of this recording has not been announced and I don't know how much I'm allowed to

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talk about but okay I could tell you some things in terms of my experiences those experiences without telling you like detail details and it'll all make sense very soon if that's what you want but yeah I've I've stayed in a lot of haunted places in recent times and I've had a lot of encounters and I've had a lot and again very skeptic very skeptical person here especially the person I'm most skeptical of is myself honey I don't trust a damn word that comes out of my mouth or brain or any of it I have always wanted to be the most interesting person in the room I've always wanted to have a good story to tell so I check myself constantly since this is you know the world that I I work in the Paranormal I try to be a little bit careful about just really analyzing and getting down to like if there's no other explanation then okay we'll call it paranormal and I've had a

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couple of experiences in recent times where where I'm like there is no way there's not I tried everything like I don't know what this could be but a ghost and that's the good stuff that is the good stuff okay well how did you get into the Paranormal to begin with like what Drew you to this world I mean okay so I grew up Catholic which I think in my opinion really can teach a child real young to believe in things that are beyond their grasp or like you know the we're talking the Holy Spirit here we're talking this piece of bread is now the body of Jesus believe it and eat it and I you know there's just so many reasons and then you start to get into exorcism whatever I I definitely grew up believing in demons and superstitions and and all of that stuff and then I moved into a house when I was about 10 years old that my grandmother she did not die in I mean it depends the actual

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well active like the official Flatline beep did not happen in the house but she was dying in the house of cancer and she was in the house for a couple of years and she loved that house and she lived there for a long time and what then we moved in and I believe that I encountered her several times as I've gotten older I've gotten more skeptical but I've also I also think that some of the stuff that happened might have been a poltergeist at as a result of me energy is just that intense I think I always assumed it was my grandma because it would always happen when I would be like yelling at my mom you're like Matilda Carrie yeah my mom and I we love each other very much but we have a great way of just like getting into it my mom let

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me tell you something my mom hung up on me like a couple weeks ago mad we got into like a fight we've made up we love each other but when I when we made up and I called her and I was like you hung up on me she was like she's like you hang up on me all the time and I was like no I don't she goes yeah you do you go bye and then that's it lady like this is the kind of stuff what do you want me to do end a conversation is there supposed to be an after party like I don't know so anyway this woman has a way of driving me crazy sometimes but I love her very dearly yeah anyway when I was a kid sometimes I would yell at her and I always in my brain thought it was my grandma being like be nice to your mom like knock it off but I specifically remember twice but one time in particular I was like yelling at my mom and then I walked through this hallway storming off and this candle that was in a glass little candle holder thing flew and spun and went on the ground and broke into a bunch of pieces and so of

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course I got in trouble for it my mom thought that I like you know threw it down or whatever but I saw it have it in front of me and I was just like in shock and then my mom starts yelling at me like can't believe you just broke my candle or whatever and I just I don't know I thought it was my grandma but now I'm like I think I had a little bit of poltergeist telekinesis yeah well this makes so much sense too because if there was something like if we go the route that there was like a poltergeist that makes sense that it was doing things that probably knowing you would get blamed for it to try to isolate you and then suck your energy even more which is like the classic Poltergeist activity right it's like gaslighting 101. totally yeah separating you from your family so everyone's mad at you because you're breaking glasses and you're doing all these things and then you get more frustrated because everyone's blaming you for something you didn't do and that is exactly what the demon wants to happen uh let's see but you guys yeah Corinne's first to shout demon

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I feel like I'm getting blamed now and Roz brought up you brought up Poltergeist but Poltergeist isn't always demon Poltergeist is a noisy spirit so it could be just like and like moving things and then also I mean Roz maybe you just your energy was like spurting off of you that like it just shot off to the candle and made it spray off like you know fall off the counter and break true you're a powerful witch it could be and it was very much like teenage years which they often say is you know what poltergeists are rooted in but I don't know when I started transitioning everyone says like oh that's second puberty and I'm like yes maybe I'll get maybe I'll get a poltergeist again did you no I've been trying so hard still to this day I'm just like squeezing staring at things

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like move off that table but nothing happens unfortunately but anyway so that definitely got me interested at a young age and all of this stuff and I read a lot of books as a kid I was just real into it and I also think looking back I'm like I think I've always sort of been like this world that I was living in I mean I grew up in a lovely town but at least the community I was in I just didn't feel like I fit very well and again like transgender kid and like not just really like there was a lot of there has to be more than the like very Ariel and the Little Mermaid like yeah I Wanna Be Where the spirits are yeah what's that thing what's that thing called a poltergeist um I I've got 20. yes I've very much wanted uh I think I just wanted to know about more like there's there has to be more this cannot be it and

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um so I think that's sort of what my my Fascination was um and then yeah as I've gotten older I've like had little things happen here and there and I bought a Ouija board from a thrift store when I was in late teens early 20s that I kind of think had a a spirit attached to it that was kind of my good story to tell at parties for a while and then I just I don't know I kept I was always talking to people about you know tell me your ghost story I want to know do you have a ghost story and then I just decided to start recording it and then the podcast happened so it's so interesting because hearing you speak about your gateway into the Paranormal you say you're a skeptic and yet you speak as if you're a Believer and and I because you've had so many encounters well skeptic doesn't necessarily mean a non-believer yes I'm just skeptical like I believe truly

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anything is possible I who am I to say what isn't isn't real I don't believe anybody knows anything about the Paranormal 100 like when people talk about paranormal experts and stuff I think that you can definitely be an expert on a lot of different theories and case studies and that sort of a thing but you you'll never know a hundred percent that's why psychics I have like a sometimes a hard time with I love it when a psychic kind of explains it like this is my understanding of what this is or yeah you know I get that because you don't know if you knew a hundred percent what any of of stuff is we would worship you like you're a God you would be right a hundred percent of the time like we just it's it's just not it's not reasonable to call the unknown something other than unknown yeah so I definitely believe in all of this stuff but I think that there's a explanation a

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lot of the time and I don't think it's always paranormal like okay for me I love donuts I could eat donuts every single day and I know that if I eat donuts every day it's just sort of like it's like a nice little thing whatever but if I have like once a month Donuts then it's like this is so special and you could use that analogy for anything but when I say it for paranormal it's like if I think everything is a ghost it no longer is that exciting to me when I when I really find one that really I can't explain that is like so exciting and the payoff is so big and I chase that that yes do you have a debunking process that you go through is there like a checklist if something were to happen around you or in your home or if someone pitches you a ghost story yeah it's called good old-fashioned side eye I can sniff it out more evidence oh my God I love it I don't do anything fancy other than just going

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I don't know about that so really your intuition I don't know I like to think of myself like a detective if somebody committed a crime and then some random person goes that's the bad guy get him like a detectives are gonna pull out the handcuffs and take them downtown they gotta do some questioning they gotta dust for Prince they gotta get creative with this find an alibi whatever and that's how I feel too if someone's like this is a ghost I have to be like well let's you know okay I hear ya but let's uh investigate a little bit here before we just jump to that or I want to know like why do you think it was a ghost like tell me all the reasons and all the things that it couldn't be yeah Corinne and I have a organization that is it's in its early days but um it's it's a thought right now but we're trying to put it into action we have a mock-up of

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our outfits for it so it's the ghost Bureau of Investigation GB bi well you have to start with the outfit always yeah we're 50 there then we're gonna start this or we are starting it it's both the ghost Bureau of Investigation and also the galactic Bureau of Investigation because we're we're going Beyond ghosts and we're including alien and UFO sightings in our investigations so they're synonymous you'd fit right in Roz I love that yeah you're welcome to join okay great thank you I love to be involved in anything it's always nice to be invited to things sure um yeah so I just really uh I really think that it is fun to believe that everything is a ghost and it is a fun way to look at things but I also think it's fun to like believe that that it that that stuff exists but yeah I just don't think that everything is especially I think that for me too when

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I hear hundreds or thousands or whatever of stories that people send me it it's cool because you know so much of this stuff since we can't we can't catch a ghost and put it in a box and and study it that way it it is these stories that we hear and that's sort of How We Gather theories and learn what ghosts are capable of and sometimes you hear ones where you're like that's new I mean I don't know I've just never heard anything like that so it's like kind of you know I'll put that in its own category of like possibly but it sounds really unusual but I don't know I think this is fun and I'm also just into like it's so fun all kinds of strangeness I love I love Cryptid creatures and the same what's your favorite Cryptid my favorite Cryptid um there's a type in the midwest called abominable swamp slobs also known

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as the ass monster I mean I love the name branding is great is this like a Bigfoot in a swamp yeah it's like a big gross creep teacher that lives in a swamp and it smells bad and it's known as the ass monster saying I I've previously pulled a lot of our listeners to see what people's favorite Cryptid was and so many people said Mothman because there was some sort of like chiseled sexual attraction to the like eight pack Mothman has going on in his midsection yeah I could see that and so I feel like like an ass monster kind of has that connotation too where it'd be like oh well I'd be curious what a date with you was like yeah if you're into ass then the ass monster is the one for you or maybe he's got just like a big juicy ass you know totally it's like a little baseball player absolutely oh yeah totally but

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like Mothman I can see flying like that has to be good for your abs when you if you think about it like oh yeah yeah do birds all have like six packs under there wait okay not paranormal at all but have you seen a bird ear because it is the whole the grossest thing you will ever see the whole have you seen that videos where they were like pulling the feathers away from a bird's ear and it's literally a gaping hole in the side of their tiny little Cranium it's like an innie belly button in the side of their head oh disgusting where does it go does it go how deep is it we do not know I no I can't say I've ever seen that bird hole I have I am familiar with a cloaca which is their are sort of multi-purpose hole that they squeeze eggs out of and I just love the word cloaca I was gonna say that's a very nice word Chloe It's a Wonderful word yeah so are there any Cryptids that you with all of your

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skepticism that you're like okay well I've heard a lot and I have a lot of data points and I've heard a lot of theories and I actually think that this thing could have the potential of being a real creature that's just Elusive and undiscovered yeah I mean I'm sure at one point every single animal was considered a Cryptid right that's true but then it's not fun anymore like okay we heard this incredible story Roz that I feel like you would appreciate so one of our listeners says and has experienced an abduction abduction like experience encounter and they were brought onto what was an alien spacecraft cool alien species being starts walking them through a hall and in each room were like some creature she recognized some she had no knowledge of and this entity told her that they help

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repopulate animals that are going extinct and so they'll take like a dying species from Earth help repopulate it on this spacecraft and bring them to another planet here like another planetary system where they can come back and like Thrive and so that's maybe a theory of where Cryptids come from yeah so it's like we're potentially they're just these alien creatures from another planet that are just being essentially like I guess farmed isn't the right nursed like a nursery nurse yeah yeah nursed here on Earth I think that's beautiful isn't it hooray I love to think that aliens are really just magical wonderful beings that are trying to help the universe for me it's the only way that I can rationalize them is just just to think that they have magical power because I

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mean okay so like Bigfoot or we'll just use Bigfoot for example as the most well-known I mean I could see a species where it is such a part of their being that they do not want people to see them ever they want they just want to hide at all times I I can see that being true but again we probably would have found them somehow by now and they would probably be in a zoo um or would become just like a human um so to me I'm like I could see it existing but it has to be something for me that can disappear on its own or shoot up to the outer space or go invisible or I don't know it can't it's not it's not something like a mammal yeah right there has to be something

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magical about them I agree well I feel that way about most things like Bigfoot but then when it comes to the lake monsters because I am from Vermont where we have a lake monster called champ and I'm convinced that I had an encounter with champ so maybe I'm living in my own delusion or maybe I really did encounter something I don't know but I feel like when I think of Cryptids like that I think that it's just truly an actual animal like it's a dinosaur it's something that we just rarely ever get to encounter it's like a deep sea deep lake creature but then something like Bigfoot I'm like it has to be some interdimensional being right because how do this many people have sightings but we have no evidence really I don't know she's good she's good she's good hiding my one argument that I use often when people like try to challenge the existence of something Beyond Us and something um paranormal I will use these two examples plants communicate with each

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other on a frequency that we cannot hear so the fact that we know they're communicating and we can't understand them and there's a language that they're operating on and a frequency that we have no way to access to me that plus there are creatures in the bottom of the ocean that have like however many cones in their eyes so they can see billions more color than we can just reminds me of how limited we are and we truly just don't know what we don't know and we are our brains were little like P brains we don't really have the knowledge or the ability to understand what's beyond us yeah I think that's great I think there's I mean it's just like when you start talking about the universe and like we haven't been out there and even if we have I'm not gonna listen to like I mean there's there's definitely secrets that the government or whatever like and I don't want to get into all the conspiracy theories but it's like a whole other episode yeah but like I don't I don't know everything that is

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outside of Earth like no like of course there's probably other other planets or ways of living I don't know I so just like I don't know what happens if we diet and nobody really does and even when you hear people's like like I'd love to hear about near-death experiences and you know those look very different for different people and I don't know if there's a part of all of this stuff for me too where I wonder if it has something to do with our brains more than we think and it is like a whatever you believe could be true because sometimes I think so when I hear about like how different religions deal with this kind of stuff and it works for them I'm like well is it because they believed in it and that's why it worked like maybe that's true I I I don't know if if somebody told me buy this stone or

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whatever it'll get rid of Edema if I don't really believe that I'm like someone just told me to I'm just gonna do it like I don't know if it would work the same if I believed in prayer or whatever so I don't know yeah maybe it is all within us I like this that it's like the power and the belief is individual to the person and that sometimes the objects that we use around us and believe are helping rid us of a spirit or protect us it's just a placebo effect and we're actually maybe unlocking something whether it's just like a weird chemical situation in our brains where we're suddenly convinced that it has worked or if maybe we are magical and we're we're suddenly unlocking and a part of the the plane that we we didn't have access to before when we didn't believe in it so much I don't know but what I will say as a human is that the unknown is scary and I'm not going to apologize for that I talk to a lot of deeply spiritual people that are like no it's just it's just

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Vibes and it's normal and I'm like no it's like I always talk about my grandmother haunting me I don't care that it was my loving beautiful sweet sweet woman do not pop up in my bedroom then I did not ask you to boundary I don't care who you are living or dead that's creepy and I'm not afraid to admit that I think that the unknown is scary very very so being skeptical you know it's like I I have investigated haunted places where I'm like you know I'll be with people and they're like there's a ghost right here and I'm like where right here okay here's my hand how come it's not doing anything I don't see anything and so I I get like really skeptical but then the thought of like something happening or like particularly when I've stayed in like haunted hotels my big ass mouth stops yapping when I'm all alone in a bed in a haunted room oh yeah because

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you're so vulnerable absolutely oh I the thought that there could be a ghost in there I'm not tough anymore I'm like that sounds terrifying to me and I won't sleep so I don't know I definitely believe in this stuff where have you been that you've because I'll speak for myself like when I walk into certain places there are some places I've walked into and I get a bad just like feeling from or a really good one like where it feels like calm and peaceful and whatnot are there any places that you've been to haunted or not that you've gotten certain feelings from oh yeah I mean here in Los Angeles I was at a grocery store at 2 30 a couple weeks ago and it people were drunk people were I mean I was like this Vibe is disgusting in here and that is like living breathing people that you know you can just tell that there's just like chaos in the air like the second I walked in yeah reading the vibration the

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energy it shifts when certain people walk in that's kind of like the fight or flight in stranger danger too but I also believe in bias like I think for the longest time any time I went to a an old building I'd be like it's haunted and I think that a lot of us have this idea that old equals ghosts which is true sometimes I don't think it's always true I often wonder are old ghosts stronger because they've been ghosts for longer or are they like over it I don't know but there's you know a ghost I don't even think someone needed to die in a place for a paranormal experience to happen no so my house growing up in Vermont my parents built it and it was so incredibly haunted my whole family experienced so many different things and we were growing up we really tried to take the more skeptical approach where like if something happened we're checking cameras outside we're redoing

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everyone like shift the exact same way that you did to see if the house rattles in a certain way to knock this thing over we would try to debunk it as much as possible but then there would be so many examples where other people not knowing that we felt our house was haunted would come over and experience things and so we're like this is so weird that we built this house on land who we know the family who's owned it for Generations it was Farmland it was empty and our house that's brand new is now super haunted then as our neighborhood started to develop a few houses down which was built 10 years after so probably like at this point it was only Built 10 years ago this house had a lot of poltergeist activity and the people the couple who was living there they would have vases like big vases be picked up thrown across their room smash and so they had to call a priest and get their house exercised and so that was two houses in our neighborhood of 30 houses that were all brand new and so

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much activity was happening so we were like where are we are we like on a Ley line like what's going on we have no idea but that was really what changed my belief in like it does not have to be a place where anyone died it does not have to be a place that is old it does not have to be a place where anyone even stepped foot for it to have activity yeah totally I also believe in like the energy of an incident or something like that can linger yeah like residual I've walked into rooms before where there was just a fight and then I walk in and I'm like what is going on in here like it just feels weird yeah you can feel it yeah again I I do think that there's a lot of bias I think there's things that get in our head I've been to a lot of places where people have told me that it's haunted and and I'm already scared um or I think like I don't know if you're if you find yourself randomly in like an abandoned building you're like already on edge and you think that

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there's something scary or I am curious how you randomly find yourself in an abandoned building honey I've had a life things happen okay oh my gosh I be more scared of entering a person at that point exactly I don't know there's just I think that we can always if we're in like a neighborhood we don't feel safe in or I don't know like we we feel we can pick up on that and like I true I have a hard time with all of that stuff at this point especially as I've gotten more skeptical because again I didn't start out this skeptical I it's taken a lot of of practice to become this unfun when it comes to ghosts um I I mean I'm six foot one I'm trans I wear kooky clothes I'm used to people just like staring at me when I'm in a building like if I walk into a store or

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something like a lot of people stare at me and I've gotten really used to that and and I'm also a stand-up comedian and like I just I know I'm very just used to I wouldn't say I'm comfortable with it but I'm just used to the feeling of a bunch of eyes like there is like some kind of energy that you feel when someone's looking at you or whatever and so when I go into a I've actually done investigations with people where they're like I feel like I'm being watched or whatever and I'm like I don't even know how to decipher like that's hard for me because I'm used to being watched all the time and I just kind of I don't know because it makes my it makes me play with my hat like it plays with my head where I go like what there isn't anyone here right so I don't know I I don't know when it when people are staring at me or not so I don't know it's it's hard for for me to take all that stuff like stuff like that for example like Vibes someone staring at me but there's no one there that's all stuff that I like to sort of in an investigation use to Lead

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Me In A Direction but I don't consider that evidence I just think it's sort of like I think it's I think it's good to listen to but but I I want I want some concrete so for you is it like something being thrown across the room without anyone touching it or like things like that that really convince you I mean that's a very rare thing it doesn't happen often however do tell my real skeptical ass drink every time I say skeptical I not that long ago while working on this project I was working on I was staying at place I will not tell you right now that was the most haunted place I have ever been from my experience the most undeniable undebunkable so many people had

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experiences I was with you know a decent-sized crew of people and some people involved were not even Believers in this kind of stuff but could not find answers and I had this moment where I was sitting with a bunch of people and an object flew it actually flew down a staircase and somebody and it wasn't me somebody ran up to be like who's up here is there somebody up here and there was nobody up there we question everyone since we were working on a project like this like we're not faking things we don't we really wanted to like we weren't playing jokes like if we were you would go okay fine it was me I was I was joking or whatever we weren't joking and anybody that any of my suspects as I grabbed them by their shirt and I said tell me was it you they were like I swear to God it was not me and that's the only time in my life so far I've seen that I mean with the

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exception of the story I told you about uh with my the candle possible Poltergeist or whatever the candle but it was so shocking first of all it's like a jump scare it because it was a item that went I saw it fly down me and one other person saw it and everyone else that was in the room wasn't facing the staircase so they just heard it hit the ground and we all were like what the hell and I was like so but like I I couldn't even like form a sentence it was so scary to me yeah so that to me after all the debunking and whatever there's still a part of me that's like somebody yeah who's messing with me because then that's the other thing yeah that's the other thing with like um what's the word I'm looking for hoaxes and stuff stuff like that so often these people commit to the story and then it's too late now there's

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newspaper articles now the TV Crews have shown up and what do you do at that point you're like yeah I'm just gonna go along with it right I do love when there are witnesses like like you were not alone in seeing this you had someone else witness the thing fly down the stairs and often I feel like yeah having someone else back up a story helps with validation yeah and another thing I'll say about that to add to the validity of it we were working on a project where we were trying to document Paranormal Activity and whenever you watch those shows or those projects in general which I have a lot over the years it's very different when you're in the situation because first of all these ghosts don't give a where the camera's pointing no they don't they're not you know worried about their angles and the lighting and whatever and some of the scariest I saw was stuff like this happened probably two three o'clock in

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the morning or something when we were taking a break we were done we were not shooting but we were still there and I mean if you're in a haunted place it's haunted whether the cameras are rolling or not yeah it sucks that the cameras didn't get it but yeah it happened like it's not a fake haunted place right but I appreciate that because if I'm a ghost which one day I hope to be I aspire to be and I'm in a haunted location that they're filming in or trying to record in I feel like I knowing my human self would want to have a little bit of fun with the people there and kind of like tease them that the second the cameras go off I do something you know well and let me go back to the d word demon that first of all if you go to a place where there's a ghost I don't understand why we assume that the that whoever's a ghost that

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lives there and has for however long is gonna just it's not a lie detector test there's no reason why they need to be honest with any of us so if we're like you know why are you mad and they're like because I hate you like I don't I don't know what I don't know who does it like what's your name Abigail there could not be any they're probably so bored because they've been ghosts for so long they're like today I'm gonna be Abigail tomorrow I'm gonna be a demon like I don't know I just don't I don't trust ghosts and and I think that we are under this impression like even our psychic talks to a spirit or something there's no reason why they should tell the truth there's really not like they probably are having fun and if I was a ghost demon I would let everyone know I am a demon I'm gonna possess you I would that would be my Halloween I would have so much fun with

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that pretending to be something that I'm not well and this makes sense too for so many people ask like why why are there so few modern ghosts why is everybody from like the 1800s the 1600s and maybe it's because the people who are actively haunting from the previous few years they're like I know it's a lot scarier to say my name is Emily a name that sounds like it could be from many centuries ago instead of saying like this is Tucker you know like it's not scary if you're like oh okay I think I went to elementary school with you Tucker I think that the old ghosts meet the new ghost and they're like baby that I'm sorry but that look is not gonna scare them what is that Urban outfit no no no no no no come with me I got a whole closet easies on have you seen the show ghosts either the BBC one I've seen only a little bit of it okay I like to

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imagine that ghosts are like just from all different eras like buddying up together and concocting plans and have their own drama totally I feel like they're like we have a look here you gotta wear a white dress if you got anything with lace that's perfect [Laughter] perhaps yeah is there any place that you based on what you've heard about it or know about it that you would not go to or are you open to testing it all out um I don't know because my thing with like demons for example is that I don't I guess all I'll say about that is that I think that it's way more rare than the media would lead us to believe but I think maybe it's the Catholic in me or what I I don't want to find out so these places that people really believe are just like demon demon demon I don't know I have assembled a roster

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of exorcists and demonologists and I got I've got all kinds of people like that on my phone and I feel comfortable if I'm with them or something like that but I'm not going in there on my own and I don't know there's that and then there's also like some places I don't want to go because like it doesn't look cute there like the town like I would have to spend time in that town or it's like three hours away from the nearest airport or there's no bathrooms in there like I don't want to convenience right because most of the time when I go ghost hunting I wear heels and I don't want to have to worry about falling through the floor you would fit perfectly in the gbi just because it's ghost hunting does not mean you don't need to look cute yeah honestly not to say that I'd give you to the ghosts first Ross but I feel like I'd feel more comfortable ghost hunting with you knowing that I'd be in sneakers

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and you're in heels because if something happens I might be able to outrun you maybe not though maybe you're like the most skilled person in heels but if I were in heels I certainly would be eating first no I'd take them off and I throw them behind me good and then it float through the air get chucked back at you one of my flexes is that I'm an excellent runner in heels really yes I like I'm so good at it I usually go pretty chunky when I'm like ghost ghost hunting chunky plow that's a good idea something like that but you don't want to get stuck in a crack with a little stiletto being because I am a scaredy cat you know again of this stuff that is unknown and stuff that I can't see I mean the thought of and I have such a problem with the consent of ghosts I think that the whole thing is a little iffy when it comes to consent I mean just popping up touching someone scratching talking in someone's ear it's like it's a little it's a little much and I don't like feeling that

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um from anyone living your dead but I had a moment not that long ago where I I kind of it was like a breakthrough for me where I realized I'm alive and they're not I have respect for them but I you know you're supposed we're supposed to coexist it's just like if we're in a public place or or if it's in a house you know it's just like if you have roommates you have to learn how to coexist and be respectful of each other and if you don't I was dealing with a ghost that was not being respectful and I stood up to this ghost and I started yelling at this ghost borderline threatening this ghost I mean I don't know again maybe it's the way I was raised or what but I had to be like listen I got a bunch of stuff I could burn this your ass is out of here I could say this thing right here you're out of here when and where was this or is this part of your project I'll never tell you yeah

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you'll tell us when it comes out yeah yeah yeah but I was just like you get to be a ghost and this was a very cool place that this ghost got to be a ghost at on an amazing place and I'm like think about this if you want to be a ghost here because you can if you want to leave we can figure out a way to get you out of here no you don't and and I was having a full-on conversation with this thing through a device that was lighting up you know in a way that's pretty undebunkable and I was like well if you want to stay here you have to be nice you can't you're making it hard for people that are here and I'm like are you gonna agree because I'm not even kidding you at this point I'm gonna get your ass out of here I'm gonna you're gonna get kicked out I'm the bouncer I have been I love that asked to come here by the living people that operate this place we're talking money that gets made like this is a

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business okay you gotta shape up I'm sorry you know I have respect I have respect you know but but you have to respect me it's got to go both ways exactly is so so I I but it was a breakthrough for me because I was like yeah we have power I'm not gonna get bullied by someone I can't even see that's like someone on the internet some troll I'm not no just because you are gonna be mean where's your profile picture that's how I feel it to these ghosts show me your face no you can't okay well then shut up okay Roz we have to to kind of conclude we have two things one you've been to a lot of places um haunted and not haunted so if you were to become a ghost one day in the

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future where is there a place you would like to haunt and then to conclude we have a couple of EVPs because you played some for us we have some to play for you fun um I think I would probably want to haunt a um theater because um I'm a stand-up comedian I love performing in theaters I love just theater in general I love the theatrics of it I would love to see a show for free all the time um I just think that that sounds like the most fun place for me that's sort of a happy place for me um I don't know if I can think of one specifically I mean there is one in La that I work at a lot that I love but I think if it was just a theater where there was good stuff happening I would be I'd be so happy I love that and I feel like that fits theater should be haunted so yeah they all should be absolutely and usually by a woman in white that they yeah they love and I

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would love to be the woman in white I that would be an honor that's a role I was born to play us too all right Karen you you have the EVPs Okay Ross we want to play for you so back in April we did a couple shows live shows and one of the things we did during these live shows was present some of the EVPs that people have heard and pointed out to us on our podcast okay and so I want to play a couple for you and see what you think if you think it's paranormal we'll try to debunk it we'll try to figure out what exactly is going on here but these are two that Sabrina and I were like we have no idea what is going on okay it's time for ebps or Eevee police two girls one Ghost Edition alrighty the first one is from an episode from 2018. oh simpler time that's what Jeopardy oh my God but would

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that be torture though what if it was just one song over and over well then that's hell then you know then you know who was that or did you hear it what does it sound like whoever was not talking burped do it again I thought it sounded like hello but let's listen well then that's hell then you know then you it does not it's not first of all he sounds hot hello hello okay and then for our second EVP and then we can discuss them okay here's another one this is from two years later if any dog can do it I believe wrinkles can oh my gosh this could be uh wrinkles that was him again right two years this is exactly what we were saying this is why we pulled these because we were going through so many EVPs that people have heard and these two we were like this is the same person two years apart we're not in the same apartments that we previously lived in in 2018. no one else we were recording these like we have no idea I want him to talk to us

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it's only two years so if the first one was 2018 the second one was 2020 2021-ish I think we're about due for another appearance we're due daddy where are you okay so you so do you think this is a authentic EVP I mean the thing I always say with EVPs I don't always know the like explanation or whatever because you know I find EVPs on YouTube or Tick Tock primarily and sometimes it's like it's really hard to tell what they're saying and again it's unknown nobody would ever know officially what they're saying right but I think um regardless if you just heard something like that that is unusual it that is something I don't know what it is that sounded very up close to

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whatever you guys were recording you know or you know it's like is it some kind of interference I know for being a podcaster I know nothing about recording I've always had people help me and I'm very grateful for that but I don't know if there's a way that channels get crossed through however I don't know what I don't know any of that either way I like it us too and and I mean aside from a couple of things that have been a little bit scary while we're recording the podcast we haven't had anything negative really happen knock on wood but like we like to imagine that it's the ghost of two girls one ghost and he's just taking up what should be his air time or their time whatever you know they're part of the title whoever it is are you guys a fan of like thought forms or aggregors or do you know that that type of thinking no no there's like a couple

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of different terms and a couple of different things that are sort of similar to this idea and different cultures and whatever but essentially that you can just manifest a ghost by sort of just talking about something and there's been some well-documented experience experiments uh just like let's create a ghost let's write down their name let's write down their biography and let's sort of meditate on it and try to get you know this object to move or this Ouija board or whatever and creating a ghost and I think that a lot of times like urban legends are that um when when you see a a woman in white walking down the street and then disappears but there's no record of anybody that that could be like could it just have manifested out of from people this idea of people constantly projecting that it could be it almost goes along with like the secret or something like manifesting and

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um you know bringing thoughts into existence and I think that particularly hearing and creating yeah particularly with like a podcast where tons of people are listening and sort of creating this energy of a ghost and I don't know I think it's possible that stuff can just sort of pop up out of nowhere and is it rooted to a human or is it just like some kind of other thing that we don't understand I'm just obsessed with that idea I love that so much but then it leads me into this whole like conspiracy thought of we're living in a simulation like we are a video game and we're just creating little like Sims we're coding from the inside yeah we're the computers I don't think I can handle this train of thought right now I think it's fun it's how I just explain a lot of of things or like cases that I've investigated

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there's just been a number of times where I'm like maybe that's just what it is like some places are just so many years people just believe that there's something there but you just can't really put you know I just think that we have this idea that goes are the result of a death or something historical that happened or whatever and I love to entertain the idea that it's like not just that that's one thing that it could be but there's so many other things that could be yeah I agree the the one thing we do know is that we'll never have 100 Clarity and answers of what the Paranormal is but we all believe that there is something Beyond I hope not like I hope we don't like even when these UFO hearings are happening I'm like I don't want to know that's not because then it's just like first of all then I would feel offensive for all the things I have that have pictures of aliens on them all these clothes I have with alien like that feels offensive and I just I would like to think of these as

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like these creatures that we don't know much about I don't want to know don't tell me well and also there's probably so many different species of aliens like even if we were to say like oh we know there's one species you can't make a blanket statement yeah exactly there's can you imagine that they came down here they would be like you guys think we do what are you this is so racist honestly you guys there's a giant green bulbous heads and probing that's what you think we all look like right wow stereotyping yeah yeah well Roz thank you so much for joining us we had so much fun on your show and yeah also having you over here we can't wait to hear what the heck this project is and watch it and learn more and know everything that you did yeah do you want to take a moment to plug your show and anything that you can share about your project so that people can be on the lookout yes thank you so if you're a fan

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of the Paranormal and you're a fan of me there's a lot of exciting things um coming at you so the best way to hear about that stuff is to follow me on Instagram at Ross Hernandez and um to listen to the podcast ghosted by Ross Hernandez I talked to celebrities and Comedians and all kinds of people that I like about the Paranormal every Monday and um I wish I could share everything at this very moment in history but this fall you will you there there's there's fun stuff for you to enjoy a pinky swear okay perfectly timed for spooky season so we'll be on the lookout yeah 100 thank you guys for having me I'm so happy we did this this is so amazing yeah and I want um all your listeners to go listen to when you guys were on because we had so much fun together we did and we will

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see you other side that might have been the best one yet very spooky