Haunted Paranormal Investigation with Morbid Podcast at The Lizzie Borden House

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very spooky if it isn't the spooky little [ __ ] The Phantom and the weirdos I'm Ash I'm Karen I'm Sabrina I'm Elena I was like I'm going to die here I can't leave dead body dead body the wind kept whistling through the front door as like a mail slot and the wind would like whistle through it and Shake That mail slot you shouldn't be here I'm pregnant so you're not allowed

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to do anything to me when I walk into this room okay you may make physical contact with me if it is gentle when I said I don't want to be touched I felt something on my thigh come play with us just went are [ __ ] kidding me all I felt horrible in that room don't leave I'm sorry oh my heart Just [Laughter] sh baby first go well well well we're spooky [ __ ] if it isn't the spooky little [ __ ] the Phantoms

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and the weirdos cuz we're here together with some of our paranormal besties and just like we've grown so close to Ash Elena in just our personal lives too and for years or I guess the last year and a half we've been talking about doing a paranormal investigation with them ever since our first collab and we finally did it and it really was just something that we decided to do just because we wanted to for fun and then after we did it we're like wait should we maybe record some episodes about this too just I guess double dip on what we're already doing because we just all have a love of the Paranormal obviously in investigating and Ash and Elena had already been to the Lizzy barding house and told us things about it and I think Sabrina you and I are a bit notorious for bringing some activity or the energy that triggers activity with us cuz we're haunted and so the four of us went and we rented out the Lizzy Bardon house for just the four of us and it was Haunting it was and so this is a two-parter you

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can listen to this episode it doesn't matter what order you listen to them in we have part one they're both coming out the same day one part is on The Morbid feed where we talk a little bit more about the history of Lizzie bordon and some facts that we learned while there and Elena goes into a deep dive especially about the autopsy and we did reference some EVPs and some of the activity that happened in the house that backs up some of the new theories of what happened at this house on morbid's Feed and then we also in that episode dig into some really creepy nursery rhymes and the fact that as kids we were chanting Lizzie bordon Took an Axe give her father 40 wax when she saw what she had done she gave her father 41 yeah creepy and then this episode is all about the overnight and so much happened we have so much that is on our recordings between the four of us almost

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all of us were always recording something but of course there's always parts that are missing and we tried to discuss as much as we possibly could in the time that we had for this episode but there's still so many things that we never even got to talk about like when the spirits called us out on having irritable bowels and called us witches so please enjoy this episode we'll have a mix of our audio where we recount our experience at the Lizzie bordon house and then some clips from the evening itself so if you do want to watch those we highly recommend going to YouTube to watch the video portions of what happened at the overnight at the Lizzy Bardon house enjoy everybody I'm Ash I'm Karen I'm Sabrina I'm Elena should we talk about how this

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came to be how we decided to do an overnight together yeah how did we decide this I don't even remember when we you guys were backstage with us at the Boston show yeah and we were like we really want to do an overnight again and then you two were like yeah us too and then I don't know how Lizzie bordon came I think we were just like we did it yeah you said we've been to the Lizzie bordon house we should do that again yep you were like let's go yeah and then a few weeks later I think I just texted and was like well cuz I knew I was pregnant and that I had a timeline so you were like let's get this we like we got to book this when are we going cuz I don't have much more time left I don't have much time about to be a whole ass mama and then truly on that day we booked it we did you were like this February work we're like yeah I don't think we have anything you're like okay it's all set great February 5th all right it's paid for we're going see you we're buying the whole house it's the way I like to have things scheduled is like I would like to do this thing and everybody's like absolutely let's do this thing and then we like booked did that thing is booked we're like all right job is to show up

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on this day at this time perfect best but you guys had been to Lizzie bordon before so what were your impressions of the house the first time you went versus this time it definitely still had that same like dark feeling I would say the first time and I distinctly remember that the first time is we went in there and I was like ooh I was like shocked by how heavy that place felt and I think it's like I've never been in somewhere that like something that horrific had happened and that you've seen the pictures and right I mean you can go right to the spot everything is the same a lot of the stuff is original obviously there's like a ton that's had to be like redone but it's like it's all still there like it's the same house it's the same exact changed the blueprint of the house no not at all it's the same and it's like so the first time we went there we were with other people that we didn't know we had booked one of the rooms and the rest of the rooms were booked and it was like a monsoon out that night so it so scary and Ash would not let me sleep she was like NOP you're

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staying up with me the whole night I get it and it's like I was like all right I'm up all night but we just sat in the like sitting room we recorded an episode Y and we sat up in the sitting room where Andrew was murdered actually yeah I was sitting like right in the was done did you record an episode from that couch yeah we did um part of it from down in the couch and we did part of it from up in the room I think yeah wow yeah we like live stream too at times but it kept glitching the live stream was when I got the most cuz that was like when we first got there we were met by like a tour guide and they gave us the whole like story so that was different that was also and then they left just us wandering through the house for like 5 hours and then texting a number that we found on the fridge like hours later but yeah it was a little different the first time we went but then they leave you obviously and they were like they literally were going to leave us with lanterns because it was monsooning so bad that they were like yeah the power might go out here's some lanterns

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so spooky the wind kept whistling through the front door as like a mail slot and the wind would like whistle through it and Shake That mail slot and we I was like I'm going to die here like this is I'm going to be one of them that's the thing cuz there was this like fun energy like it was like it was dark when you first walked in there but there was a fun energy during the tour and then as soon as that woman who gave the tour left and was like see you we all felt abandoned so real like I was like oh we're staying here and some people left and it's you and a bunch of other strangers which also adds to it being creepy that added to it that was honestly the creepiest thing to me the first time was I'm more concerned with what real people do than what ghosts are going to do to me so I was worried I don't know these people and I don't like this so I am going to stay alert and make sure that I don't have to like defend myself here that was like part of me not wanting to go to sleep but the way bigger part of it was I feel like you're just like they can infiltrate you if you're asleep they can oh Absol yeah cuz you can't You're vulnerable seeing

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the room that you guys had booked that you were supposed to stay in I would never have gone to sleep that night either they brought us up to that room and I was like you've got to be [ __ ] [ __ ] me like I was like you're lying this is not C is that we spent time in pretty much every single room of that house we never it is weird that we didn't go into that room at all really I don't like that room and it was there's something about it when we were like collecting all of our things at the end I was like wow we really didn't spend anytime in this room and I feel like I don't think we even stepped into it no I think we poked our heads in our heads that's it I don't even know if they told us like what that room was Amber didn't when we went through the house yeah maybe that's the problem with it we don't know what it is so we're like I'm not [ __ ] with that best not too but it's also like why did Amber take us into almost every single room except for that one again why is everyone avoiding that room yeah this is a mystery Sinister Vibes in that room darkid dark sided we went in there and we were like like so did you get the same feeling

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like the heaviness when you walked in absolutely the exact same feeling I feel like I was like reverted back to the first time we walked in there it's very interesting because Sabrina and I I think throughout the night I felt more and more scared as we were making more contact yeah but when we first walked in the house you would think that we would be more scared than we were because we got there first it was just us to and there was no one there to greet us it was this house that we'd never been to with the reputation that it has but I think because we had already gone to the conjuring house yep and The Conjuring house felt so much scarier certain parts heavy energy there that we were kind of moving freely about the first we went to the bathroom by ourselves yeah before you guys got there that's crazy we were just freely moving about like I sat in the dining room for a good amount of time you were like in the other room and the reason that sounds crazy is because throughout the night none of us would go into a room alone or go to the bathroom alone scarier as it got darker and later like

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you feel you feel a different kind of like vibe to the air the later in the darker it gets there sure and also so we got there probably like an hour before you did and we were like let's not explore the rest of the house until Ash Elena get here cuz we wanted to like experience it with you and so we were only in the downstairs area we chose not to like listen to anything or really refresh our memories on the Lizzy Bardon case so we were just like exploring all the cases that are downstairs like the you know autopsy stuff and then we walk into the room where at the time I didn't know this where Andrew had died and been murdered and I'm sitting by the chair or by the couch and there was this like one of those like face on a stick things and I was like I wonder what this face on a stick is I'm like standing there at the couch holding Andrew's face holding holding Andrew's face and I all of a sudden get this feeling of pressure on my head like on the back left side I look at K I'm like it's still there like it's like a feeling and I like yeah you're like Ow like My My head kind of like hurts it feels weird it feels like

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something's touching like right here yeah and then truly my eyes the next thing it goes to is the crime scene photo y of Andrew on that couch and I was like is this literally standing where like right here yeah so that like right away paranormal things started happening it was it was right and it's it's one of those things cuz you can pinpoint exactly where these horrific things happened in that house so it's like I feel like there's just like something associated with that that makes it even scarier cuz as soon as you walk into that room you're just like wow like is this how the person walked into the room that did this like am I walking the same path that that person walked going up the stairs I was like we're walking the same stairs that those people walked to or whoever did it walked up those stairs and were they hiding in that closet did they walk right into the room like we're doing the same thing that they did we're touching the same handrailing to study our and we learned also from our encounters with Andrew's spirit and then also from Amber that Andrew doesn't like people in their

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house in the house at all no we were told multiple times you're annoying you're annoying you're annoying me yeah yeah and be quiet but he did tell us we could call him Andrew that's true we asked him should we call you Mr bordon Andy Andrew and he said Andrew because we heard mister and I was like do you want us to refer to you as Mister yeah right okay we had so many encounters should we go like room by room room by room start from like the night okay well let's start at beginning because we did something that we learned from paranormal investigators Greg and Dana newerk that you guys hadn't experienced at your last timeon house which was setting intentions and pulling cards to try to communicate with the house and the spirits to let them know why we were there and what their involvement could be and kind of like setting boundaries and respect at the top of our investigation so for setting intentions I don't I don't know why I'm the one doing this I don't feel like

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I'm okay we would love to communicate with the spirits at this house and we would like to let you know that we are going to treat you in this home with kindness we don't want to instigate anything and we ask that you treat us with kindness and we'd only like to have any positive interactions with you that being said we did bring some things with us that you can use to interact with us feel free to also knock or make noise is in the house to let us know you're here we just ask that you don't do it too close to our person where it becomes frightening yeah please and then asking if they wanted to give us messages through the cards which sometimes I feel like we read the we pulled cards a couple times throughout the night and it was almost like are they telling us a message or it did feel felt that way or is it about the house well in the beginning the so we pulled two cards yeah and you had pulled out the spread and then you had me wave my hand hands over them and vibration pull where it

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was buzzing and then Ash remember you were like I knew you were going to pull that one like you could also sense like where it was wanting us to draw the cards yep and I can't remember the photos on the cards I remember we got the raccoon at one point we didn't get it first but one of the other cards that we pulled referenced raccoon and then we ended up getting it the second time and I was like why does this keep coming up one of them was the hurricane lamp I think yeah the oil the hurricane oil lamp and we were sitting a right in front of l a circle around a hurric know so wild is I just pulled it up yeah it's the hurricane lamp and the raccoon but why did I say it like that raccoon New Jersey coming out okay so that picture is after we ate yeah because the first card we pulled and I'm going to butcher this but it was about remember it was about like the story being being misunderstood yes oh no you're right and we felt like it was talking about the case and yeah we felt like it did associate itself with the case because it was talking about like

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being misunderstood and telling the truth and like finding the real story like holy crap and then the second card we pulled was about like taking care of yourself and was related to health and just like the physical body and ailments which could also be related to the house sure it did feel like a lot of the messaging that I guess maybe I was interpreting it was like if it was Lizzy it was a she was pushed to do it in order to protect herself yeah it did come off like thought okay so right away we did this we set our intentions I asked if anyone was willing to be touched is anyone here okay with being touched by a spirit I am not I would prefer not to be I you know if you feel like you need to but please do it nicely I too am open to being touched again if it is nicely I do not want to be scratched or pushed you may make physical contact with me if it is gentle same for me me and K were like hell no absolutely not but I feel like I

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ended up getting touched anyway you did true wait you got touched twice you did that's true yeah one of my biggest regrets is when we were backstage in Boston you and I Elena were like we'll do a Ouija board we'll do a Ouija board at the Lizzy boarding I was like I will not be sitting anywhere near you so we're sitting at dinner in the dining room we had a rod in the room where Andrew had died oh yeah and we were like where are the Ouija boards like we were confused and this is when we started to realize like a lot of the things that we were told would happen that we would have for us when we got to the house was not there in addition to no one being there to greet us and was it Ash did you say where they were or I I pointed to the room but you haven't said anything yet and I just pointed to the room I was like oh in there cuz I remember it being in there from the other and as soon as I said that that Rod went off I don't even think you got the full sentence of like in there out like I think you literally pointed and took the breath and you were about to say in and it started I think

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so so we did learn that they don't keep Ouija boards at the Lizzy boarding house anymore because when the tour guide Amber arrived that evening we asked about it and she said that that Ouija board that used to be there someone had stolen it one night a guest had taken it home with them and they had no totally not cool and I was like why the [ __ ] would you want to do that and this was a Ouija board that was like over 100 years old so like it was a prize possession for the Lizzy boardon house to have Mist yes because Weeks Later Amber said that they got the Ouija board back and there was a note attached with it that said make it stop I will never forget that story as long as I live that and the one she told after so after that night they decided no more Ouija boards in the house like it they just can't control what's happening so many people don't use them properly yeah and you have no idea who like what those people did that took the OU board out of the lizy board house and what you're going to bring in like they didn't close anything properly or something happened and then so the second story that Amber

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told us is that there was one night where similar to how Amber was like awoken out of bed another staff member was called at like 10:30 at night and was like you need to go to the house and remove something from I think it was Abby was aby's room I think it was Abby's room and she shows up and she's like really confused and the person who was staying in that room is like waiting outside the bedroom and it's like it's in there underneath the box spring between the box spring and mattress was a Ouija board that I would I would go home yeah that would I would never stay there yeah no that would be it for me that night I be like you know what I'll try the skin later yep exactly if that was my experience I would they wouldn't even know that it was there because I'd be in my car 400 miles away my question is what happened to make that person look between the mattress and the Box yeah because I don't think she said no but clearly something well unless they just checked in and they were like you know the classic check for bed bugs unless they were like me which the whole we as we walked through the house when

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you guys first got there atanta you were checking every nook and cranny she does that whenever we go anywhere and it's my favorite thing about you cuz I'm like goad look yeah like everyone knows I'm just going to go check everywhere that a human being could be hiding I'm going to check like even in hotel rooms she like she does her whole lay of the land I clear it all and then I'm like okay everyone can relax you even check the mirrors you're like double-sided mirror oh yeah put your finger on the yeah is anyone watching us like space is safe but in that front room so we brought with us a few pieces of equipment we brought the REM pods or we had one rod and they had a bunch of REM pods which tells us if there's a temperature fluctuation of above or below 5° and also if there's any motion very very close to the Pod we had a bunch of EMF readers to measure the electromagnetic field any changes there we had cat balls accessible to us at the Lizzie bordon house so they had a bunch of cat balls which are just literally cat toys that would react to any movement which I think that only went off like once the one time up in Bridget's room when

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everything went off at the same time you're right can you step away from it yeah cool I don't know why we didn't stay in there longer cuz there was like I think it was just there was a spooky Vibe I think we got scared right I think it started to chill out like it was going hard and then we were like it went into like a second of calm and I think we're all like okay okay they're done so we're done done it yeah we had dowsing rods with us which Elena you used and then we had multiple Spirit boxes and then we also used ghost tube to communicate and we had almost everything going the entire time yeah we got a lot on ghost tube I I didn't expect that to be honest I was kind of like a little bit skeptical of that and then when we started getting like words coming through I was like this is too accurate like with Abby's room which where Abby was murdered which we talked about on your episode and then the kids room which we'll talk about a little bit and I was expecting ghost tube to be kind of cuz I had the same kind of idea I was like I don't know I'm a little skeptical

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of this and I thought it was just going to be spitting out words like constantly and I thought that was going to make me be like okay one of these is going to hit cuz they're going to spit out like 100 Words and it doesn't it is silent for a long time and then it'll all of a sudden just spit out a word and when it spits out a word it's related to what you're discussing which kind of is a good way to talk about what led us to the basement we were listening to the S boxes and we had ghost tube going and I think we were asking like how they felt about people visiting and that's when we got the bad oh oh and like the breathing that one yeah and that was through the s box right yeah yes well we learned a few things in that moment one we learned the ash you should be the person who listens if we do the S meod so good it because we would hear something and be like that was something and then but you would be able to decipher real time and we'd go back we'd replay it and we be like holy [ __ ] that is what yeah she can pick out the words know it was scaring me that like I was

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getting them more like you were transl yeah I was a gross translator I get super like over stimulated with too much sound so like if too many people are talking at once I'll never understand what anyone I can't pick out one person's voice but you're like really good at just zoning in on one thing what was the one in Andrew's room it was also earlier that we paused and replayed it and it was exactly what you said do you guys remember oh yeah I have them written down oh I forget what that one was in like the in the room where he was killed yeah you two were sitting on the couch and we replayed it and we were like holy [ __ ] that is what that said I forget which one that was I remember the first one I got was bad and I I played it for my husband Drew when I got home and he was like I don't want to hear anything else he was like he like I don't want to know about your ghostly abilities oh what was that one I don't remember what that was but in that front room I believe it was the front room when we were communicating with it it was it was like that whisper bad when we said do you how do you feel

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about people trying to like come here and figure stuff out and after it said bad what was so freaky was we had like five minutes of trying to communicate ahead of that answer and then after it first said bad that whispered breathing and like breathy like kept coming up and that wasn't a part of it in the first five minutes so once it said bad it was very very active and then we had also asked in that same session we said did something tragic happen in this room or sorry this was an an I need to Mark what happens in what room I know it's hard I think was it my head it was my face my face but what did we ask was that the one that like we replayed it and that's what it had said my face so in the front room we got the word abused and then we said were you abused and then it said emotional and then a few moments later it said I can't leave and then Elena you you asked I'm sorry do you want to leave yep and it said I do and I think that's

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and it answered like right away like answering you like do you want to leave I do I do it was like a back and forth combo is this what then led us down to the basement no we were in Andrew's room yeah yeah so we then took a break because our food door dashed driver got there we wanted our steak and cheese obviously we had to eat because sustenance went ghost hunting and that's when we went to that the room where Andrew was killed yep and the part that we were just trying to remember that we replayed that you had heard initially was in Andrew's room someone asks did something tragic happen in this room and we hear my face yep and then just moments later another voice comes through and says he's a victim yes did something tragic happen in this room it sounded like my face you he it up that also sounded like he's a victim we

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hear the word Andy so that's when we were like are we talking to Andrew and then we decide let's introduce ourselves so we all said our names I'm Ash I'm Karen I'm Sabrina I'm Elena kind of sounded like ol though do you want to talk to Elena [ __ ] girl [ __ ] girl mean girl and I was like I love that on the S box yeah and then one of you Sabrina or Ash you guys asked do you want to talk to Elena and then it said [ __ ] girl and I was like what does that mean like what [ __ ] girl is that I heard mean girlan I thought it said mean girl and then you thought it said [ __ ] girl said [ __ ] girl yeah like either way like what the hell

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what's your problem with me like damn rude as we discussed on your feed we were called [ __ ] so were quite a lot they just didn't really like girls really didn't like but that conversation didn't really go anywhere this is also when I had the video camera set up recording in that room and I went to go check it the camera had died batteries were like fully charged we had like 14 hours of recordable video or something ond hard I had a backup battery cuz I knew something like you know paranormal would happen I put the other battery in I go to look back at the videos it doesn't exist no there's nothing that was wild that was crazy which like could be you could say like oh because it died it didn't save the video sure maybe but like but why did it die why did it die yeah when it was like completely charged right yeah yeah and it was like perfectly on the ramp pod and that's what the moment I wanted to see if it caught you know I know oh we didn't even talk about when you got there your phone had been weren't you like charging your phone on the way yeah on the car ride

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down my phone was in the charger the entire time and it's never not charged but when we got into the house like 5 minutes later I look at my phone and it was up 40% yeah y so weird so now that we're in this room we were talking about Ash about how you should do the Estus method yes and then the EMF raer started spiking and then at that exact same time the lights in the dining room dimmed yes and we're all like holy [ __ ] should someone walk in the dining room like what is going on just went off and of course my camera was not angled in that room someone else try to go walk in there no I'm oh is it cuz you got up no that's temperature well and it did the motion it did the green it went green went right there is there someone here in the room with us do you want me to walk in there you're sure it's not cuz you both got up let's try again ready one are you [ __ ] kidding me all the

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lights out do you want into that room so Sabrina and I we both get up and remember the r pod immediately starts going and we're like oh well we jump cuz we're scared but then we were like is this is because you guys moved it was then we tested it yeah ready Sabrina okay so that's a debunked and we tried to imitate it and it wouldn't do it again the r pod doesn't react to our movement but as we're trying to test this out and like questioning was that a ghost or was that that us the dining room lights just completely shut off it was completely black is there a room you would like us to go to yeah do you want us to go upstairs front end

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under the want to go to the basement oh the heater would you like us to go to the basement dead body her dead body if you would like us to go to if you would like us to go to the basement can you give us some kind of sign I'm sorry why sounds like they want us to go to the front end of the basement all right shall we oh oh yeah do you remember that I do remember that and all of the lights in

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the dining room went out which knowing it was on a timer was one thing but the the timing amount of time that from us last walking in and triggering the light to this going off was not enough time for it to go off according to its timer yep 100% that also the front foyer light kept going on and off too the you both noticed it right away you were like was this light on before and Karen and I had truly stood in front of that light to talk about it before you got there so we knew it was on at least like when we had seen it but then multiple times it turned off and on and there was no Rhyme or Reason no RH reason like it wasn't motion it wasn't time no cuz nobody was really walking through that area and then you and I remember we went to go try to put the ash you and I tried to go put my video camera looking at the stairs to catch something the light was off we walk in there it does not turn on we start to like play with the like the key to turn it on even the light switch didn't contr it I don't even know what that light how it turned on or off it is

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a paranormal light it is yeah it didn't make sense that they were turning on and off they were so then we tried to go to the basement we tried we did and as we were walking do you remember when we go into the kitchen and we go down the hallway to exit out the back door you were holding the EMF reader Ash and it started spiking it was going crazy like something wanted us to go into that basement and then it went even crazier when we were at the basement door yeah it just went to red that I wish I was filming on that my dick right this is the basement right what the [ __ ] okay we're gonna go inside so Ash I mean to go first no I'll go first should Sabrina go first going it's like I don't care someone should Ash go first we know the code asking each other not the spirits and the EMF reader was up to red but we couldn't get in cuz it's locked and that is when when we realized that the Lizzy Barden house did not realize that we were there that

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night they forgot about us so we went back inside found the emergency contact number let them know we were there and they were like oh [ __ ] and then they sent a tour guide over at 10:30 p.m. and she was amazing yeah she was she was and they were so apologetic too they were like oh my God we were like it's fine CU it was something like since we had rented the whole house it didn't show up or something show like a room or something we were like yeah we're here once Amber got there she let us into the Bookshop and then we could pick whatever like equipment that they had that we didn't already have and we grabbed the infrared camera Y and then we grabbed the motion censored music box oh my God that thing is going to be the death of me someday we have had some experiences with that that you had been telling us about your experience with it with Sam and kobby on the USS Salem before and it was so similar that was the worst part about it like yeah it really was and a lot of people say like even Amber was like I'm going to go reset that cuz it never goes off like for this long and

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that's what happened when you and I Elena were on the Us Salem and I was like what is it about us that makes ghost want to stand in front of music boxes which when we get to the basement we'll have to tell you that story yeah so when Amber came she gave us a lot of context of hauntings and I'm glad she came before we went down into the basement because absolutely we were like under the impression that someone like a spirit had been trapped in the basement and needed help cuz didn't it say like help like it said trap or trapped and we were like can we help you it did say help me when we were it did right so I think we were anticipating speaking with the spirit that it needed some kind of help in the basement but when Amber came and told us like more history about the crimes and about how Lizzie was acquitted she told us about how no one investigated her room because it was improper to do so for a woman and like the period blood she also told us that Emma who was I guess an agoraphobe and ended up weirdly this agoraphobe who never left the house happened to be gone

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for a twoe period which is like a weird timing the uncle who had been staying there got lost he got 90 minutes of time in the like small downtown that he was familiar with nobody knows his whereabouts for that period of time which I did see it's a theory that he did it right she also told us a lot about how Lizzy and Emma were raised by the parents and how like they were very frugal I think it was a lot of good context for us but then she told us that the basement there is a spirit of a woman named Eliza mhm who had very sadly and tragically tried to kill all three of her children only killed two of them in the basement of what was next door Y and then went and took her own life and she is trapped in the basement and then there's also a like more malevolent Spirit yeah in the basement and I think didn't she say that that malevolent Spirit came or something about like the

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portal brought him in because there's also a portal in the front room oh yeah mirror portal yeah cuz he hadn't always been there she said and the the trickster like um Spirit what she was saying cuz she said it wasn't a demon but it wasn't a human something in between and I was like is there an in between yeah is there I feel you're either a demon or you're a human that's what I was really confused about it was like aggressive with its language CU When she said it's not human I was like oh we're talking demon like we got a demon in this house and she was like it's not a demon and I was like hm I was like I don't know I feel like you have a demon it kind of feels like the Creeper from w Really Hill although that feels really demonic but it's almost like an amalgamation of something negative that happened there that like some Spirit maybe like attached itself to that energy and has like become turned yeah yeah but Amber was calling the the trickster Carl so that made him a lot less intimidating so much less like go away Carl she was hilarious with like Carl we're sick of you we're trying to talk to the kids let's go like oh my God

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but the kids were really Li we get there obviously but the kids were scared of Carl yeah at one point but we should go to the basement B well this because Eliza's whole thing is like she was clearly suffering from like postpartum depression cuz she had kids like rapidly in succession and obviously they didn't recognize that back then they were like absolutely so they tried to use that because she was like related to the bordens she was like what was it the she Aunt by marriage by marriage she blood related but they tried to use it in the trial with Lizzy to say look Madness runs in the family and it's like first of all it's postpartum depression so no but they had they had no idea what that was she's not related by blood so it actually got thrown out for that reason but just the fact that they tried to use it in the first and they had to look at the the surviving child Maria who had grown up and like been married and you know just living her life totally fine and they were like look she's fine like they telling me Madness quote unquote runs in this family it's like no it's so sad it is and so sadly Eliza's Spirit

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apparently is trapped in the basement and it's almost like a punishment to herself like her her kids never reunite yeah and the kids won't go in the basement too which was like the saddest thing don't blame them yeah don't blame them at all that is it creepy so basically ember's like all right so where should we start and we all agreed to start in the basement one because we had been called down there and two we were the most scared yeah like let's check that off our list and get it over with exactly especially while Amber was with us cuz we only had her for 2 hours I mean immediately things were happening oh it was wild down there so you walk down and if you go straight there's like a kind of back alley is storage area which is where Eliza's said to kind of like Crouch down and hang out like the way back corner yeah she was like that's Eliza's Corner over there I was like you make it sound Whimsical should I go put this in Eliza's corner and of course I like said the brave thing but I was like someone come with me someone come with me so Ash you came with with me Y and I put it over there and I was like if you would like to communicate with us you

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can touch this and then you what did you say we don't want to be touched please I don't know what I said I I think I blocked out in the I think you I think you verbatim said but please don't touch me and immediately something touched me oh [ __ ] yeah when I said I don't want to be touched I felt something on my thigh and it was just like a poke in my thigh like that's all it felt like like just a poke yeah right I said don't touch me like I'll come over here but don't touch me and immediately it was like car which I totally think it was Carl that was Carl like oh yeah so we left it there as we are about to you got two steps away from the and it started going off and then I think we literally ran away from it and yeah we did we scared Goodbye Oh yeah and it happened one more time cuz I have it on video we're walking into like what was the Seance room that they had set up it was like in the middle that was as we're walking into it you hear the r pod go off and I was like guys it's green I was like what what is that which meant somebody had to touch it motion yeah that there was someone like

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right in that vicinity and then we sat down and we're all talking and I Karen Karen did not sit down I sat down until the um music box the second that we sat down you just got a big glass of coal there too he's going off nonstop music started playing and then I was up and wedging myself between Ash and Amber and it didn't stop so the music box Amber had set up in the room to the left of the Seance room right at the bottom of the stairs in there by itself we sat down it immediately starts going off and doesn't stop would not stop that's supposedly the room where where like whoever did this burned clothes right yeah the room

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where it happened yeah cuz if you take a picture in this certain area of the took a picture did you take a picture a face shows up oh yeah and I I took a picture the first time we went I don't even want that to live on my current camera rooll well they said that they've sanded and repainted so many times and no matter how deep they get into that wall keeps if you take a photo with flash too right yep yeah and the face showed up the face showed up immediately took one photo face is there and it was there when we went there last time too that was the thing they showed us that last time because they said take a picture of it and like something will show up and they didn't say what and I was like they didn't tell us the first time and then I remember seeing it and being like what the [ __ ] like I don't know there's a face back there right they were like yep that's it they were like y That's the trick but that music box going on it just kept going off it kept happen and that's what happened with Sam and kby when we went to the USS Salem because when we were walking into the mess hall during that one like what was the mess hall Sam jokingly said everyone on the ship report to the mess

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hall and he like yelled it and then we walked in and we all sat down they put the music box in the doorway and all of a sudden it was just like it was like people were just filing into the room like stop and then go on again more come in it has a sensor so if you walk in front of it or if something passes in front of it it sets it off like a motion it for what 3 seconds and then it yeah just a quick little like and it's like that would be it out but this time it just and I have it on video the constant sound of it happening cuz we were just like never stop like someone was just like standing there and like it makes me think that they're kind of you know in Paranormal Activity where they capture her and she's out of her bed she's like walking back and forth oh my God I hate it I took the heat camera over there too and couldn't see anything no who are we talking to

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and Amber went in the room and finally shut it off like it didn't even stop by itself which I was like you're the bravest [ __ ] in the game because I would never I think I have like oh even such a creepy noise after this we were like okay we've done enough downstairs but we didn't we sat I we stayed down there for a while we sat in the Seance room yeah not a super long not a crazy but a while in the sense of like what the [ __ ] were we doing well because that was our first communication with Carl oh yeah and he kept calling us stupid he just kep said stupid and then he moved straight from stupid to [ __ ] [ __ ] yep and then from then on he just said [ __ ] stupid it just said stupid stupid 100% sleep what disagree oh someone here disagrees that we thank youa it took whatever Spirit if it was Carl a while to form the full word we

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kept hearing like we were like it Sayang something but we don't know what and then eventually he must have gotten enough energy must it up to call a [ __ ] probably fed on all our Terror of of hearing that music box maybe that's what it was maybe that's why maybe we just like built it up and built it up and he kept it going powering up maybe that's why he was able to finally muster it up he was the one doing the music box and then was like okay I got enough totally monster exactly it was really sad though because Eliza also made contact with us down there what's help me help me oh Eliza is that you how do we help if that's you make your present's s please said how do we help but then it immediately went back to [ __ ] so Carl was there again yeah and then Ash you asked how many many people are down here with us and they someone said two of us

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so was Eliza and Carl The trickst Entity she was like Carl you're not a person which honestly I was happy to hear too I was I was waiting for like 74 74 people are down here 35 actually roll call I was so happy Amber was with us but I will say she was really confident in her interactions with Carl and it made me scared that he was going to be aggressive aggressive too I 100% agree especially when we were upstairs and she was like Carl like go away get out of here no one wants to talk to you Carl I'm like oh my God we're bullying and ET as soon as she said that I literally was like I'll I'll talk to you if I need to like and you were like not right now we'll talk to you later and I wanted to be like we won't but I don't want to talk to you but how else do you like nicely come back from being like shut up Carl exactly exactly I was trying to balance the energy said we would go back to the basement and when the first opportunity we had we closed that door yeah we were just like click you and I were going back from the bathroom and I was like can't go down there again we

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literally locked ourselves upstairs we made it so we absolutely couldn't go back down yeah I'm trying to think there was before Amber came when we were in aby's room there were a couple of messages that we got yes that's when we got closet wasn't it was that when we got closet and strangled yes we talked about a lot on your feed that also comes out today where we talked about some of the facts that we learned and some of the new theories associated with the Lizzy case that room was kind of creepy it's funny so the first time that Elena and I went to that house I ended up like feeling genuinely sick in that room like really bad like I had to leave like I was like I'm going to pass out in here and I felt gross in there still like I felt like icky but I didn't feel as bad this time around no I felt horrible in that room every single time we tell you didn't feel good in that room I like had a headache I felt so much pressure on my chest I felt like intense dread and sorrow it wasn't at all a scary thing it was like sad sad like I was grieving

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someone when she I think she said or whoever when we went into that room the first thing that came over ghost tube was sad sad yeah and it was like it is sad and the room was so floral smelling it smell wonderful yeah we kept getting scents oh I just got chills just thinking Wes of smells and like I think you said like fresh powder yes it was like a what you would wash your body with and there was actually like a little like sink in there where like she would have right and technically that's the the guest bedroom like that wasn't even where she slept or anything it was just where she was killed there's photos of the crime scene in the room yeah which I don't love personally I know and the creepy dolls all over the house I didn't love that and which you said is a new addition cuz they weren't there last they weren't there the creepy dolls weren't I do want to say that the crime scene photos were there no they were absolutely it is like they leave those things because for like the historical aspect of it so I can like somewhat understand that one more yeah and I

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think like because the autopsy happened in the dining room they show you like that you're in the room that that happened with yeah it's like the kiness of the other stuff like the the hatchets and all that and like the dolls and dolls are also are they supposed to be Lizzy bordon cuz then that's also perpetuating something that we can't say is true that's the thing yeah so okay we left the basement and then I think we went all the way upstairs third floor right because we still had Amber with us and so we were like we want to go to the most haunted places which were the basement and that back bedroom the back bedroom with all the toys which is where the kids spend the most amount of time and she had showed us this incredible photo that had been captured on the thermal camera cuz it's this like thermal gun that if you click a couple buttons you can either record a video or take a photo and someone had captured truly it looks like a toddler like a baby in diapers in a diaper like climbing up on like trying to hoist

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themselves up on a piece of furn like a bed it was the little like baby legs and everything The Stance and all that like yeah like outturn hips like everything blew my mind that was one of the scariest things I've seen so sad too yeah no it's so sad and that was another room where I felt like really overwhelming sadness yeah when we walked up there so the third floor right when you go up the steps it's Bridget's room and then you have to go down the long hallway past the room that you two were supposed to sleep in which never which never no one ever stepped into and then the kids room but remember I went to go put a remod in Bridget's room and I heard a cat meow yes and there is a cat imediately Max the ghost cat I was like I'm excited about this here we go and then we went into the kids' room and that's when [ __ ] really popped off this is where I really believe in the ghost tube yeah that's where ghost tu really showed it showed it shine the tone of what it was saying shifted completely in

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that room yes everything up until that point was like when we walked into aby's room it was like closet dirty strangled like trying to tell us like this is what happened here kind of thing almost and like sad all that and like downstairs it was Andrew being like you're [ __ ] annoying me and like be quiet like get out of here and then we go up there and it turned like childlike like it just everything curious very innocent it said things like are you a friend are you a friend that moment which we have it on video we have it on multiple angles to a video which is I showed John and he was flabbergasted by that so we're sitting up there and with Amber were like first showing the ball the cat toys which they light up we were trying to like you know get the kids to be like hey you can play with these you can roll these we rolled one of like the bigger balls and I was like you can play with this too and then I started taking out toys from the the toy box yeah the toy box which they interacted with because when you took

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out the snake it said something like Slither and then when you took out the horses it said walk come and go and we were like horses do walk horses do come and go look at all these toys are here you can play with all of them there's a little snake ooh a horse I don't know it's having more fun it's walking it's working it said it's walking when you put the horse out oh the horse is walking look it's tring come and go the horses do come and go and then it said the spirit said snuggle snuggle oh you like to snuggle and stay with us yes it said stay with us and then at one point it said don't leave me that was when I stood up remember you went to stand up and it said don't leave me and we were like we're not leaving

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like some of us are witchy we are a bit wi here they've gotten psychic quite a bit don't leave I'm not I promise don't leave it was right when I'm not desk and at one point it said are you a friend and everybody was like oh my God yes we're friends we're friends we're your friends as soon as we said that I somebody I can't remember who it was said come play with us like we're here to play with you and the ramp pod all of a sudden went off like as if something had touched it like it was like okay like it was like are you a friend and we were like yeah and it was like cool let's play that let's do this oh you can play music with this too are you a friend are you a friends we are are friends yeah come play with uses that turn off on a d I

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hope are you playing with us and then you started reading the book you were reading good night Moon and it said good but didn't it say slower too like it said slower at one point and then it said good and you went you were like yes that's it and it said sorry like it had interrupted you no it's so good CU it was like a second before you were going to say good night something and it was like good and then you were like oh yes yeah good night and it was like sorry and I was like this is like a conversation like so beautiful and none of the words none of those sentences happened anywhere around the house and it wouldn't have made sense really in a lot of the rooms like don't leave us only they were scared so we cuz we went there right from the basement and we did keep hearing like [ __ ] so the belief is that Carl kind of came up with us and this is when Amber was like being really aggressive with like get out of here Carl we're hang out talk to you Carl and so the kids kept coming through saying

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scared and so we were trying to tell you don't understand yeah yeah and then they said well because I asked do you get to hang out with the cat and they said yeah sort of and then a few moments later they said to the right don't go there and to our right was basically like the doorway to get in and out of the room and just moments later all of a sudden it was [ __ ] [ __ ] that was two different voes to your right who's right don't go there wait like don't go to the right was that [ __ ] again I thought that was [ __ ] yeah that guy Carl you can go back downstairs Carl and so they were basically trying to say like Carl's in the doorway he's to your right don't go over there which scared the [ __ ] out have chills to say I just got full chills and that makes me so sad that they're like trapped inside that house with things like that like and now they're warning us yeah I'm like you're

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the one who has to stay here like I can leave I know remind cat with his mean Brothers know like oh but then they did say sleepy and we were like we'll let you sleep and then I took a picture of where all the toys were cuz we were like I wonder if cuz we told them too like you can play with these toys like have as much fun as you want and we were curious if anything would move by the end of the night and we did go back to check yeah and I don't think anything had moved nothing had moved but the second so this was like the last thing we did in the house we went back up there nothing had moved but immediately what your ghost tube said something about play with me I think it said play with us do you want to play yeah do you want to play that was absolutely bunkers we were in stunned silence we were all just like yeah cuz it was I sat on the bed and it said do you want to play and I

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was like we all like looked at each other like did that just happen it didn't say anything about playing or stay with me or are you a friend until we got in that room second cross the second time it had actually been like super quiet up to that point cuz we were in that front room you guys were kind of like falling asleep little B Ash you started to fall asleep and I was like we got to do something and it was so quiet up to that point and then soon as we went up there it was like it didn't say a thing until we walked in that room I had it going the entire time we walked up those stairs everything that's the other thing with ghost Dobe is the majority of the time we were in the house it was running it's not like we just started it and stopped it like when we were at some locations it was consistently going between one of our phones I feel like we got the most activity out of all the rooms in that room and it was so positive like so happy the first time we went up there after i' had gotten poked in the thigh I definitely felt something pull on my pant leg at the Bott of my that's the second time you got and I thought that maybe like my leg got like Twisted in my

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pants or something and then like it ruffled like out and I tried to recreate like the movement and I couldn't feel that sensation again so I definitely think like something was pulling something went down you know what's spooky so we ended up talking with a pet psychic who that on Monday was doing the readings for us cuz she like did them ahead of time and wrote them down for us in my reading it's weird I apparently showed up it my high herself showed up in like a clown costume with balloons but there were a group of kids sitting on the floor and I was handing balloons to the kids stop and the exact day that she was channeling Sabrina's energy and trying to channel her cat Leia's energy for this reading was when we were doing the overnight and Sabrina was trying to entertain all the kids oh my God I have chills right now I I have chills again too because you were the main one like you got right on the floor you started pulling [ __ ] out of the toy box like and you were reading to them and talking to them the most that's and that was like the last interaction that we really had until we left which was nice yeah that was a

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great way to end yeah okay we definitely need to talk about the when we were sitting in the dining room and we were reading the stories from so we were sitting in Andrew's room and it kind of have been like a little bit quiet so Ken was like I think I'm going to lay here and nap you're pregnant you needed to get some sleep I was like I'm not going to make it through without like some small naps but I wanted to be in the rooms that you guys were in so I was in a chair just down the chair as everyone else is like baby's first ghost communicate with us baby's first ghost baby slept through the first Seance and the three of us were playing Cards Against Humanity we were just chitchatting and then a because also the house and the spirits they were kind of indicating to us that they needed a little bit of a break at one point they said be quiet you're Anno and we were like you know what we'll listen to you yeah we'll give you a break we'll give you a break we're supposed to be respecting each other here so we'll take a break and respect you yes it did say be quiet and like you're annoying at it and that was when we were in the room where Andrew was killed and I I

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totally felt like that was his energy all right like chill out girls yeah it was like he was like the dad at a slumber party right he had two daughters he probably like he has no problem being like H you're so annoying but so we were playing Cards Against Humanity but I think there was a certain way did all the ramp pods go off at the same time they did and that woke you up right no no the weird smell woke me up cuz that happened like the REM all in the different rooms they all went that was right before they went off the weird smell the weird smell happened about like 5 seconds before the r pod went off because I like woke from the dead and I was like it smells like sewage and pretzels which to me feels like there's a demon present was it Carl do we think it could have been Carl you smelled it too and we were sitting on opposite sides of the room so it kind of like permeated the whole and it like wafted through like it didn't stick around it just like went by just a moment just to stink little moment and in my mind I was like I have to fully wake myself up and tell you guys because what if there is

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something here and like I'm kind of in and out of sleep at this point and I'm like I don't want you guys to not know that I'm smelling this in case it is something bad trying to communicate right and as I'm like getting up to tell you guys you're about to get up because all of the r pods go off at the same time so it it's like we smell the smell and 5 seconds later three ramp pods in three different rooms go off at the exact same time we had one in the dining room one in Andrew's room which is the room we were in and then one in the living room all three went off at the exact same time y the amount of moments where we were all stunned into silence and just like looking around at each other like what what we doing yeah wait it it reminds me of Elena when you and I were in the dining room alone when you guys were setting up a bunch of the equipment and we're sitting there and we're sitting on the same side and you and I were both kind of getting a little bit sleepy so like we weren't talking we were just sitting there and then the lights get brighter and we both you like look around and then we both just look at each other and then like turn back

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like not acknowledging really oh my God we're like it's happening but but we don't know what to do about it was that when you and I went to put one of the the cameras and we were doing the light thing at that love we both just looked at each other and we're like we didn't even speak after silence just sitting there that had been happening like all night with the lights so you're like I don't know what we're going to do about this is what it is at one point too it was when Andrew was getting a little annoyed with us it was at one point he said you shouldn't be here yeah and when he said that I have a video Ash just goes no I was like you're right we shouldn't I mean again though it makes me think of you shouldn't be here no the sadest like no cuz it was the energy had been like pretty like obviously it was scary but like nothing had really said like get the [ __ ] out of here and when it was like you shouldn't be here I was like oh no is it turning we should go just go no I know I have wild reactions in the

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moment it was also like anytime the r pods went off it was a similar situation except for in the kidss room anytime the ren pods were off they would go off together yeah like the time in Bridget's room where all at once they both been off and the catball and I had only gotten a video of like cuz I basically started it after the one to my right had started so I was over on the one by the door and then the catall was going at the same time we didn't even notice that until the playback yeah exactly that was wild do you guys remember what we were talking about when that happened I don't remember what we were saying I honestly think that's the only time none of us were recording yeah in a weird way I feel like that room was one of the scarier rooms cuz we all wanted to get the [ __ ] out of there and it was like kind of inexplicable they also have a book of people's stories where people write what has happened and we sat in the kitchen and we were reading them and I can't remember or in the dining room and I can't remember the exact wording but there was one story where we read it and we got an

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EVP that was they basically were like that didn't happen false it said false false false so we started doing that and we basically I was like I think I have some recordings of this where I was like we're just going to read through these experiences of other people like we'd love to hear your take like if this is how it happened and multiple times it corrected us it would say never validated it y I was Ling on my side and felt a vibrating by my arm maybe it was Max there's a sewing room where is that false false wait when you were reading the stories you passed one and you were like I'm not going to do that right now do you remember what it said yeah I think it was talking about like really tall shadow people and like something of watching them sleep I I was just like this just feels too scary too ominous yeah like I don't need this in I was happy you didn't but I was like I need to ask her yeah it was getting way late at that point oh I think there was also

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one about like being scratched like a demon scratch thing so I was just like one I don't know if this is true and two I don't want to put it in the air especially cuz we were sitting in the dining room the lights already were creepy it was already a creepy room and we had watched that video we have to talk about that video Amber told us about it they were like was it a mother daughter I think yes yeah in the house they had bought the whole they had booked the whole house and they were in that room and the lights turn off yep which had been happening to us all night they kind of like both paused look at each other and there's a closet door right underneath the camera and it starts yes slowly opening on its own and you see both of them like be like they like lost it yeah I would have started sobbing in that moment oh I would have lost it yeah 100% remember you checked that closet when we first got there cuz I was like oh what's in here and it was just like a little Brom closet like but it was even it was like really small and we didn't have any experience it didn't

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similar like that when you were reading the stories one of them ended with and I don't think Abby wanted us in her space and as you said it some like somebody asked I think it was you you were like what was that last thing and I was like oh Abby didn't want them in their space and as I said it out loud with the naked ear I heard I will go to my dying day say it is on no it's on video we both heard yeah there was a woman near the stairs where the room is that Abby was killed in I don't know what she said but she said something I heard a woman loud and [ __ ] hear it and you can hear you can't make out what she's saying but you hear a voice woman you hear a woman's voice and it was so loud and clear that I was like should we check around to make sure nobody's in this house because I feel like there's a human in this house what did you say right before that happened um that it seemed like you were reading that it seemed like Abby was mad that somebody was in her space what was that

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mad that somebody was in her SP it was a woman's voice what no I straight up heard that I believe me too it sounded like it was 10 ft from us like it was just the and the three of us all heard it yes I was too busy chomping on pink starburs that was another moment of like St one time you're not the one who exactly here's what it said and of course we decipher what it said cuz we didn't have your ears yeah that one blew my mind cuz that was the only moment where we heard something with right outside of using you could hear like every now and then I felt like I heard like a footstep upstairs or I like something move you heard breathing didn't you I heard breathing yeah at one point and some of us heard music at different points like very faint music often through you heard it a lot and then you said it so I don't know if maybe it made me like think I was hearing it but later in the night when it started getting quieter and like you two were sleeping I think I looked at you and I was like do you hear that and you were like you didn't hear anything I

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thought it was either breathing or like music but it was so faint that I couldn't decide which one it was right it's almost like are we playing a trick on ourselves because it's so quiet they were hearing things I definitely heard footsteps above us a few times and it was just like Let's ignore it some things we didn't you see a face peer o my God yes when we were in Abby's room what it was aby's room I saw somebody like peer around the the door oh yeah you said that and you didn't say it until after cuz like I said I like trick myself into being like no yeah I didn't see that I didn't see that and so I was like we were in her room we're getting those like bad and you know sad closet strangulate and I'm like wow this is like really intense I always feel like I can't breathe when I walk in but it is sad sad it is sad it is sad in here closet other closet was someone hiding in the

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closet and surpr and as we're talking out of the corner of my eye I swear to you I saw something small peek around the doorway and then peek back and I literally so much that I like peaked through the door frame cuz I was like is somebody out there it could have been the cat or a kid I think it seems like it was a kid was it I'm pretty sure when we were in aby's room I was standing closer to the doorway and something on on the ghost tube said behind you I wonder if it I wonder if it cuz I remember I was like I'm not standing by the door anymore yeah you were like [ __ ] that I wonder if it was because in my head I was like no you're just you're freaking yourself out like you're seeing something that's stupid and in my head I was like that was too small to be like a it didn't click in my head I was like no that was nothing and that was before Amber got there Amber got there and told us the kids and I was like that was a kid looking behind that door like I think that was a kid looking behind that door just being like what the [ __ ] are you guys doing in here didn't say this when it happened because we were in the front room and it was just you and I awake and you guys were sleeping and I said this to you the other day I was

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looking at the wall in front of us like right next to the piano and I swear and I don't I like second guessed myself on this because I don't know if I was just like tired but I saw this like Shadow like moving along the wall like back and forth it's like when I saw the curtains and I was like am I tripping the left drape the left one yeah the left red one like the top not wait why am I tripping it was also terrifying in the dining room when we were all sitting eating dinner and Elena was telling her story and I had to stop and I was like are you stomping your feet go cuz you were telling like an intense story and like sometimes you'll like move her around and tell the story so I was like oh she definitely is and then you were like no I'm not the whole floor was vibrating and it was like as if you were stomping with emphasis in parts of your story and I was in like slippers too and it happened for like 3 minutes and we all just mostly assumed that you were moving and then we asked and you're like no I was like no like I haven't stomped once

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I was like I'm not stomp yeah one foot wasn't even on the ground and when you did stomp it like did not recreate the sound or the feeling no so we were literally getting like a stomping in vibration right it felt like it was under your chair as you were yeah and as soon as you asked it I was like no cuz I like looked at like my feet are like up on the thing and they were and that's interesting because we would have been right over the basement and that's before we had gone into the basement so it's like with something like come on down ladies taking a broom being like you're being too noisy downstairs cuz like a these [ __ ] so loud yeah I'm trying to think if there were any other big ones that were missing I mean there was so much but it's hard cuz there's just so much and the fact that the r pods went off at the same time multiple times was just so freaky and also multiple times when we were in the bathroom it would start going off actually when you went to the bathroom multiple times it started going off oh and there was a time when you two went to the bathroom and Elena and I and it was like right before we were going to leave I think it was like right before we went back upstairs to check on the

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toys and every single Rod started going off and you guys didn't hear them no not at all you came back and we were like did you just hear that and you were like no you were like it was going off for 2 minutes it didn't make any sense when we came back the one in the Andrew's room was still going off and we were like yes and you two were just kind of sitting there with your cameras yeah that's been going off for a long time been going for long long time yeah like at least a minute hi I've never even heard it's the temperature and and movement but the fact that you didn't hear them didn't make any sense no but the that bathroom did have the automatic fan which like does make it hard to hear anything outside of there but even when you like walk out into the kitchen weird you know should we talk about what happened at the very end of the night oh my gosh the house was so happy we were

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all horrified being there towards the end because activity really picked up it started to feel like it was being way more active and then there was a moment that it did start to feel like it was settling down slightly and because some of us were tired and one of us had been sleeping on and off for like 2 hours we decided okay it's 4:30 let's wrap it up the second we said we're going to leave the entire house got so much brighter like visibly so I literally said I was like it looks like daylight yes none of us spoke anything about it all of a sudden all four of us when the whole night were going room by room with each other holding hands all of a sudden all four of us intuitively were like okay we feel safe we feel comfortable let's pack up we were all in separate rooms packing moving freely about the house like no fear at all it was like an energy lifted yes then we're standing in the dining room all of our stuffer packed and you're like yeah you said it feels like daylight and the lights that had been dimming the whole night in the dining room were the brightest the brightest

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they had ever been and the bulb that kept going out was completely on fine and like to the point where I think you looked out the window cuz we were like does the [ __ ] sunrise this early and we look out the window and it's like Pitch Black 4:30 it's like dark hallways that had one single lamp bow were like the brightest rooms you've ever seen honestly that's one of the weirdest things I think I've ever experienced when we were leaving which is like was the house acting and they were like all right cut like time to go well I mean it does make sense if Andrew doesn't like people being there he kept calling us annoying he didn't want us to be there it would make sense that they put effort into making people feel uncomfortable so that they will leave yeah the moment we told the house we were leaving it was like thank God we did we accomplished our goal and it probably takes a lot of energy to like make it uncomfortable so the second they could stop they're like yeah and they wanted make it easy for us to leave right it's like oh let's escort you out the brightest lights possible don't trip on your way out yeah just

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like everyone was like here you go ladies like just leave through this door bye and I didn't feel like we were all like shaking it off in the driveway and even [Laughter] like cuz there was a couple times that we went out into like the driveway like I think when we were trying to go to the basement and like obviously when you and I first got there even in like the driveway you feel terrified but then we and were like shaking we likeit dancing the to recreate that every haunted place everyone yeah it was wild the jux position of just like moments before being very scared and moving as a group of four everywhere yes to suddenly freely roaming the house collecting all of our items and heading truly night and day cuz it went went from the last thing we did was we were up in the kids room and even like though that haunting was positive going down those steps from like the third floor down downstairs I was in the back which also we had been told that in the Attic Bridget had been

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locked in and you could see on the thing like there was a lock underneath but I was in the back of the like four of us and I remember like ash you were right in front of me and I was like I don't want to push Ash down the stairs but I want to be downstairs so fast and then we decided we were leaving that feeling was gone yeah and that's like in literally like an inst 30 seconds it's so funny because every time we would move as a group to like go up or down the stairs you could tell we were all fighting for a spot that was not the back and I kept getting the back and I was like [ __ ] you guys the back in the front are the worst yes yeah like you just want to be sandwich in the middle and we were like Karan needs to be sandwich in the middle no and we would all just rotate like who got to go in the second part there was one time where I was in the back and you guys all stopped right at the top of the stairs and so I was still on the stairs and I was like I'm going to get [ __ ] push down stairs oh my God if I had done I there for like 90 seconds and I was like they'll move eventually they'll move eventually I was like white knuckling railing remember we like saw oh my God that scar

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I know it scared me too Jesus now I didn't even hear anything I look over I just saw the door slowly opening and I was like I got to go it was crazy so much happened I can't wait to do the next one with you guys I know we're a paranormal investigative group now we're going to make custommade jackets yeah are and we're going to choose another place to go hell yeah thank you everyone for joining us thanks Ash and Elena for joining us thank you for having us we love you guys we love you we would do this every day of the week F so fun do you want to do our sign off with us yeah okay we will see you on the other side very spooky