Spooky Sleepover, Creepy Kids & Ghost Stories | Paranormal Slumber Party (x135)

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ah very spooky hello welcome nice to see you guys as well this is a special episode i didn't we have happening we just started recording we never know what's happening either it's okay we we're just kind of here and i think i sometimes get possessed and like something takes over to in the recording of the podcast you your sister was possessed yes i saw that tick tock and it terrified me oh my gosh yeah exactly she doesn't like to talk about it so because she doesn't remember it

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yeah but i do that's such a creepy way but i do i do

Childhood games and fears

yes okay this is a special episode we have jerry and ciara sierra era sierra sierra from ladies and tangents oh sierra this is a crossover a fun episode we just had a fun um episode on their show part one of our sleepover where we played games together yeah and it got deep we got emotional there were tears shed yeah and now we're gonna get creepy yeah now it's late night in the sleepover so we talked to naturally and then we cried and now we're going to now we're bringing out the ouija board yeah turn off all the lights get the flashlights under our chins yes we should have played mash do you guys remember that game oh my i always ended up with like 400 kids though and i'm like come on in a shack and you're like i'm never surprised i

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only make 12 a year it was always like three really reasonable answers and then one that was just like out of this world and i always got like that one i always cheated and i like would pick the number that i knew i was gonna get the [ __ ] i wanted it's great you like count it ahead yeah yeah or i would just like take fully take control and be like i'll just do it for myself and then like change the numbers are the planners yes i like to just go i'm like i got my crush on the mansion in a million dollars just happened to me take all and then i get upset when i'm like 400 children my god i'm on a teacher's salary or whatever it was my job i was always like zero one two four cats like it's not never gonna be like four cats four cats four cats well i am definitely allergic to cats so it was kind of like or i'm gonna my throat's gonna close how

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did inhaler just for cats that's the only thing i needed for i had an inhaler because my mom thought i was smoking in the eighth grade and i was like i have exercise-induced asthma but she got my chest so funny wow but i grew out of it but i think i think i just actually stopped exercising which is [Laughter]

Listener wedding invites

okay we found our doppelgangers it's i'm this is unreal yeah i can't i just told jerry upstairs i was like is it weird if i invite them to my wedding i would be honored what are you doing next september 2023 i'm trying your wedding we're going to your wednesdays do you guys ever get wedding invites from your listeners in the mail yes people want us to officiate not in the mail yeah people do want us to officiate they want jerry to be the photographer

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i am shooting so many of our listeners weddings yeah yeah because they started fantastic it is super cool when i get the invites or like i guess when i i say i get them but it's like both of us but our p.o box is in boston she gets them yeah yeah i open the mail and i'm always like part of me really wants to go but then the other part of me is like they're probably just like sending it to be nice and nice what would they do if we actually rsvp'd yes and they're like oh no we're over budget like we have to uninvite them oh no i didn't save a seat for you i think they would have like uninvited their uncle yeah actually yeah sorry sorry uncle uncle steve you're not allowed you can't come anymore i feel bad i do have an uncle steve and i want him to come to my future morning so i feel like that was a mean example well the nice thing is that you and i are already invited to your wedding so you wait what i didn't follow i'm already we are both already invited to your wedding oh to my i'm invited to

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you my wedding she's like well both of you to assume you're coming here well i was like wow should i go should i leave i'll be out here it seems like you don't need me yeah well congrats on your engagement that's

The engagement proposal

exciting dan thank you yeah yeah i shot the engagement she did and he gave me the ring to bring my engagement was during my pregnancy announcements oh my gosh that was really whammy but it was something that we had for the price of one you know yeah he had thought about it for a while but it was just like really gonna be when we had a photographer who was very present there so what do you mean when you went to photographer you guys are cousins and you live like down the street from each other isn't that an accessible thing i don't know but my fiancee my fiance will not get his picture taken he's like so no so i knew i was like if he just asked like hey we should go get a photo shoot done i'm like you're gonna propose i was like just take her on a walk i'll

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hide in a bush like we will figure this out together is that what you did you were in a bush no no we planned we planned to take like um engagement or not engagement maternity photos just like a pregnancy announcement type so we were going to have like a board that said like i said i'll bring a letter board and we'll put uh like baby parsons um yeah whatever do you whenever she would do i was taking their pictures you know when she was due do you remember something so i told you whatever i was like shane and corey can you go put the stuff on the board i'm gonna take some pictures of sierra and noah her older son and do some solo shots of her while you guys get the board ready and so corey walked over with the board and he turned it around and it said will you marry me instead of um there's like nothing better than being a part of a surprise like that like i want to be the person hiding in the bushes yeah to surprise someone else i don't i

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don't like being surprised but i want to be so i want to help surprise other people we realized afterwards that i never actually even said yes i just screamed really loud for a really long time give give me the ring give me the better [Laughter] is just screaming in the back and i was like i'd love this for me on brand that's amazing what a dream

Ouija boards and spooky kids

well this is um this is two girls one ghost yeah we have more voices here because this is part two of our sleepover with ladies and tangents jerry and sierra and you guys have kids we do your kids are creepy

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yes we were creepy kids it sounds like you guys were both creepy kids as well you were uh-huh jerry you played the ouija board often when i got into college is when i started but that's because i had a lot of paranormal encounters that i didn't really understand and so a friend of mine started playing i had some really cool experiences with it and one pretty terrifying experience with it so i i don't do it often anymore now that i have children because i'm like that's just asking for trouble over this way yeah yeah i never i was not a ouija board fan but my mom tells me so like when we were younger um we had a very small house well it was an apartment but it was only one bedroom so like my crib in bed was in the room with her and she said one night in particular she was like sleeping and she woke up because it was thunderstorming and then like the lightning flashes and i was just sitting up in my crib staring at her while she was like

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that is out of a horror movie and like if you saw me baby this one's broken yeah i have very dark hair very dark brown eyes so like and i've was born with that way so i was just like dark dark eyes dark hair just like staring damien from the omen just yes so that's my mom always loves to tell that story when i talk about how creepy i am and i am yeah yeah and then my kids are just like i mean not the baby but i have multiple experiences where my son would like we used to live in an apartment complex as well and i would pull in so it was like a bunch of apartments and like a circle parking lot that you could go in and uh it was super late at night so nobody was out there but there were a lot of cars and he was like watch out for the little boy in the road and i was like it's nine o'clock at night so i was like where and he's like right there he's like pointing and he's like that little boy right there and i was like

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so i was like okay well let's get out of the car because i was like maybe i'm missing something and there is a kid out here because there were just kids like there's a little wait how old was how old was your son at the time i would say probably three or four three or four okay yeah wow and so that's like the age yeah so he was i was like okay let's get out and i was trying to look because i'm like if there's a little kid out here and they got like i don't know what's going on and there was nobody out there and then he was like no right there he's like pointing to a spot and i was like let's go inside the house oh my god this

Past life memories in children

is like sixth sense yeah dead people oh it was so creepy i was like stop it stop talking to me right now and then he also would talk to me i think i've talked about this on our podcast but he would talk to me all the time about um his sister and she went to jail and he would say about how she died and like would tell me in great details about his sister and i was like you're an only child and

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what are the details do you remember them so it's like a reincarnation past life yeah situations so he's 10 now and this was probably when he was two or three like really just starting to put things together so i can't remember fully but i know it was i think a fire i want to say a fire something like that that was like an accident and he would get like scared then that that would happen to him because he and i would say why are you afraid of that and he would say my sister my sister and i was like oh yeah that's okay we we just recently had like a very long conversation about reincarnation and it is so wild like how souls are re reincarnated and reborn and like when you can remember and like how all of a sudden you just forget it like when she was a kid you used to tell your mom wait you say what you said there were multiple there were multiple instances my dad traveled a lot for work and my mom was like terrified to be home alone with me because i would just say creepy [ __ ] but there were two when i was three

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years old um one time i was frustrated and she said i mean you guys know like with little kids they have they have a certain way of like speaking that sounds young because they're a little kid but she said in both of these instances i i was very articulate and well spoken and like had some confidence about my voice and in one of them i was frustrated with her and i said how come you're the mom now and she was like uh because i have chills you were the mom before and she said i just like kind of snapped out of it and like went back to myself again continued on and then that same year so this was when i was three years old and we lived in this house kind of like a rural part of new hampshire and the second time i said i want to go back and she said back where because we had actually just recently moved from one town to the other so she's like do you want to go back to guilford because we'd moved to littleton new hampshire from guilford new hampshire and i said no and she said well where do you want to go back to and i said i want to go back to

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heaven it was so weird because my mom was like

Ghostly encounters

i wasn't in daycare i wasn't in school like none of the tv i wat i watched like lady and the [ __ ] and like fox in the house like there was there was we did not talk about it like my my parents eventually like forced me into catholicism yeah but it was not talked about heaven wasn't talked about dying ghosts none of it and she was like full chills like oh you're going to bed now like we're going to talk about heaven and like it's so weird as the parent who experiences it because i wanted to like keep pushing for questions because i was so curious but i was also like i don't want to make this like a like a core memory for him leading questions where like they're like let me just start saying all this other random stuff right and it would always happen like really yeah like very randomly like i remember that conversation about his sister happened when i was driving to work so i was dropping him off at the babysitter and

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it was just like out of the blue from the back seat of the car and i swear to god i almost slammed on my brakes and i was like i'm sorry what come again oh my gosh yeah i don't forest is not old enough to speak at all but i mean he has definitely looked at places in his room and pointed at sayings he's a a year and a half so he's he's been acknowledging things in the room that i can't see and so i am just very like waiting kind of for that to happen but my older son ali who's three um before had he was calling us back into his room a lot because he said he could hear something and shane at the when he went in was like okay but i checked outside i went into the attic there's no but like he kept he's saying that he heard something moving above his head and so we thought like oh maybe there's like a rodent in the attic yeah and so shane went up and looked and

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there was nothing in there no signs that there had been something there and then the one night he called us in and said that um bubba was crawling on the ceiling and it is so creepy it's so creepy i i feel like i just shrunk yeah we're getting here like going into ourselves right now

Messages from the spirit realm

well it's like so bubba is what he calls his brother and so i said you see bubba on the ceiling and he said bubba's crawling on the ceiling and we had two miscarriages before we had our kids and our second one i was 16 weeks along when we lost him and we named him um like that was something we were actively kind of like teaching ollie about not so much like about miscarriage but just saying like yeah you have another sibling he lives in the sky he doesn't live with us um because i want him to understand that part of it like having a connection

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to something that's not here and it not being like yes it is sad but also like i i want to try to remove the stigma as much as i can yeah yeah right and so all i kept thinking is like is jonah the baby that we lost like is he crawling on your ceiling is he here that's interesting and if so like could you get down go on the floor or at the moment don't be generally upside down which is the creepy position to be in yeah just be right side up at least although if i could climb on the ceiling i would just i don't know if like spirits are high that that's better is that like than if they're closer to the ground i don't i've done like that i thought that i had heard that spirits who like have a like um more positive energy like are higher up oh okay so he was like real positive because he was pretty positive yeah yeah you could be talking out of my ass because we say often that we don't know dick about [ __ ] yeah

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honestly there's literally no way to know anything about the paranormal factually so it is so much of what if or conspiring or believe like you can believe whatever it is yeah it's theories my mom had a miscarriage before she had uh my sister who's the oldest of the three of us and she like a couple years ago had this dream of like a a boy in his like late 20s and she like believes and he like talked to her and they had a conversation and she believes it was like the son she never had the one that she had a miscarriage wow

Dreams and spiritual signs

i i had a dream like that after i had both my miscarriages i was in my childhood bedroom and i was breastfeeding two babies and then oh i mean it gets silly but then i looked down and they were puppies so then i was breastfeeding puppies so that's how you know it's a dream but i looked up and in the doorway because i kept screaming like where are my babies

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where are my babies puppies right yeah this is not what i want these are puppies yeah they're they're innocent so it's like yeah yeah and pure so that's so yeah it's the same yeah and i see a two-year-old little blonde boy standing in my doorway and i just felt so emotional and for the longest time i thought that that was jonah and then recently i looked at my oldest son and i'm like oh my god that was you like i slowly believe i saw myself oh my god before isn't that wild and like the fact that i have chills i lost two babies oh my god and then my son who was born looks exactly like the boy that i saw in my dream it was almost like he was there to be like hey yeah you lost these two but i'm coming yeah okay another thing the puppies sounded silly but you have two dogs don't you yeah what if your babies are reincarnated as the dogs and

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that was a sign it is a boy and a girl and that's what i lost oh my god because they're still in your family but just in a different way a different way and i truly believe that mosby is like a person yeah no i mean you saw him giving such attitude before we started like come on yeah but like i can hold him like a baby like and she does he jumps into my arms like that and he's not a small dog if you're thinking no he's a big boy well that makes me very happy yeah i feel like one of the things that like we hear a lot and we've talked about a lot on our podcast is about like traveling souls and the idea of it if you haven't heard about it before it's like when you are reincarnated you there are like a particular number of people that oftentimes in your new lives yeah you'll still be connected to in some way and so maybe it is your family dog or maybe it's your best friend or maybe it's the person that you

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marry or it's your brother or you're like a lot like somebody met like in childhood like you know like there's just people in your life that you meet that make an impact and they don't have to be there for your whole life the entirety of but like you feel like they're there and your souls are meant to cross and sometimes they continue to yeah your grandpa might be

Interconnected souls

your future child yeah i swear to god my my daughter that i just had in october she is my aunt passed away 12 years ago and i swear to god that that is like my aunt look very similar and then my grandma has just like this strongest bond with her she they like understand each other and my grandma will come over and just like hold her like this and the baby falls asleep immediately and my grandma's like that's how i used to hold laurie and like all of these things she'll like do things with her that would work for my aunt lori when she was a baby and my daughter will respond immediately to it and then she snorts and like snores a lot which

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they used to call my aunt snorri laurie when she was a baby and like i've never heard a baby that snorts and snores like my baby does and this is amazing i i know i am just like and i don't know there's just like when i watch her and my grandma like i know it's my baby but like when i watch her with my grandma it feels very like a maternal like this is not the first time they've met wow yeah it's beautiful i wonder if when she's like around three or four if she'll say anything about um i can't wait i honestly can't wait i mean i don't want to say anything because i don't want to like push it but i just want to see if it comes because like already the way that we're feeling towards her it feels very like we've we knew you we know you oh my gosh that's amazing it's just so interesting too like as human beings that you can like pick up certain energy like there's just so much like unspoken language and understanding and i feel like yes it has to do with like the spirit realm as well like

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there's just a certain understanding that like these two people have connected before or like lived together before yep it's not any relationship being built the fact that when she's just like in the presence of my grandma sure she instantly relaxes constantly like nobody

A reading with a medium

else she'll go to my like mother-in-law's house and like she'll be like she was a little difficult like she cried for a while and i've never seen her cry for my grandma like it's just like as soon as she's there it's instantly they know each other yeah it's really beautiful i um i had a friend pass away when i was in second grade and uh we had only seen each other at ccd we went to church together and that was like she was my church friend and she had cerebral palsy and so she uh she was like my first experience with someone who had a disability and i didn't look at her differently that was just my friend and she just instead of being able to walk without crutches she

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needed crutches to help her walk like not a big deal um well she passed away at a sleepover um and she she choked and when i was in college i was devastated i remember exactly where i was when i found out the news i was numb it was one of the most traumatic things that's ever happened and her um i had seen her parents like after that but like i always felt guilty because we didn't go to the same school and we only saw each other on sundays i felt like i didn't have the right to grieve her in the way that i felt that i was grieving her and when i was in college there was a guy who lived on my floor he is now um he's a a medium and he's like been on the steve harvey show he's been on maury like he's actively he's read like tony braxton oh my gosh i have chills and i haven't even heard the whole story so he walked in to the lounge where all my friends and i were hanging out and he's like hey i just saw you guys in

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here i wanted to introduce myself my name's reggie and um i said hey reggie there's some really weird stuff happening in my dorm room can you explain to me what's going on and he said that there were three spirits around me one was a man who had completed suicide um and then his name started with r and he's like he is like your family but he's not your family and he comes around when you are um about to make a bad decision because he made a split-second decision and his life is gone and so he's kind of like someone who's watching over you trying

Validating the medium's messages

to guide you wow and i'm like i have no idea what you're talking about none of that brings the bell and then he said that there's two women at that point in time both my grandmas had passed and he said that one of them was my grandma and the other was a little girl and i was like i'm not gonna say anything because my boyfriend at the

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time who i had who grew up in the same town with me i'd been with for four years didn't know about my friend who passed so there's been so young no way that this guy who just walked in here knows anything about her yeah so he said um i keep seeing popcorn and candy and pretzels and that's she choked at a sleepover and um he said i never say names because i'm always wrong but she says you'll know emily and i left the room i was hysterical because that was her name and the fact that she was there he's like she's here with your grandma they came together their headstones are next to each other and yeah yeah so anytime anytime i visit my grandma i also go and visit emily oh my gosh it was wasn't there like a yes so she well he told me he's like you guys are

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connected he's like there is i see a string from you to her almost like you had a bond before this life like you guys were like sisters that's how close you were so yesterday it validated me feeling like i am feeling such tremendous loss from this person that i didn't even see very often and it's because i thought that was the wine and i was like hell yeah chug that straight for the day she's trying to sober up now we're one bottle deep each other but i was also going to school to be a special education teacher and she was the reason that i wanted to do that so he was like you have this connection this bond with her and she's with you she is with you all the time and um she was very very active in my life like she would um sit in front of my mirror and my straightener would turn on and off i would hear my name um she would my makeup looked like someone was playing in it

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you know when a little kid has like makeup and they just dig and so now the powders everywhere and i lived alone like at this point i didn't have a roommate i came in and it had looked like someone had done that in my makeup and he's like yeah she sits here and she plays and i had not told him anything about her but he kept running his hand on my wall and he was like do you hear stuff like this and i said yeah but again i live in a dorm room like i didn't think anything of it and he goes she's she slides her hand along the wall which is what she would do when she didn't have her crutches because she couldn't walk and he's like but i want you to know that she can walk she's fine but she knows that you wouldn't recognize her if she was presenting herself in a different way oh my god i haven't had full body chills this is so many times on our podcast but never so much that like my whole skull has like goosebumps this is beautiful because it

Astral projection experiences

truly like she feels like your sister

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yes yeah the way that she's acting in the afterlife and like she knows that now because she's in the afterlife and she can like all her souls are connected yeah oh my god oh yeah one of the coolest things that's ever happened and like i felt her around me for a very very long time and i don't feel her anymore like i could tell if i walked into a room and i felt a presence i knew if it was emily and i don't feel her anymore but from what i learned through talking to reggie because i talked to him a lot about it and um he would say like she's your friend like she's here to be your support and i was in a an abusive relationship i was in a lot of turmoil and so once i got to a place where i was so much more settled and i was in a healthy relationship and i felt like i was on a good path it was like i didn't feel her anymore and it was it was sad but at the same time i felt peaceful because i'm like she knows that

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i'm okay she knows that she doesn't have to yeah that is beautiful wow i really want and i say this to karen a lot like i really wish we had a reggie like a friend yes who is a medium i all of my connections to the paranormal world are in my dreams or like an astral like experience i've astral predicted once and it was like terrible it was really cool yeah yeah i i don't know a ton about it because it's it happened like kind of accidentally okay i was sleeping and like i felt myself oh wait like wake up but i could see myself sleeping in the bed and your soul essentially leaves your body physical person great wow and i had this like really long conversation with this woman and i think like i've i swear i know they say like in dreams like you can only ever create or see someone that you've seen in your life but like right i've never seen this woman before and i swear if i saw her on the street i would immediately recognize her from this like

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we sat she had very curly dark hair and we sat and we talked like about life and about but like my connection to the actual plane and she told me to follow her and i was at the time living in an apartment with like tons of doors like every hallway like had 20 doors and i remember following her through like multiple doors and then all of a sudden i had like like got very dark and i my body was like my soul was sucked back into my body and it was like out of a horror movie where i sprung awake because i felt like something else was in the room no no no no no no i have chills i have chills

A reading about miscarriage

but that's all to say like there's just so much about the paranormal world that like i feel like i can access but i don't understand and there are a lot of spirits like we have a friend we lost a couple of years ago that we've tried to you know understand if she's around like how is she and i just wish i had a reggie to like help me understand what spirits are around me like i want to know do i have a spirit guide or do i have a guardian like who's

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watching over me you don't have to be in the same place like we booked him again um because i i mean he did the first one just because he walked in and said hello i'm reggie nice to meet you i feel some things yeah and so i actually booked a session with him for my anniversary after our miscarriage oh my gosh it was just audio so like i signed up he he has someone else connect him because he doesn't want to know anything about the person beforehand yeah um so as soon as i started talking he recognized my voice but he didn't realize i was who he was going to be talking to yeah and he was talking about um my miscarriages well he kept saying like your grandma's here and i remember her from the first time that i read you

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i know that i've talked with her before and he said that she is with a young girl and i thought oh okay emily's back hey what's up girl how you doing and he said do you know if your grandma had any miscarriages and i said no i don't believe she did and he goes well she's with she's with a baby that's a soul that's never been born um oh my god by the way she has this all on video yes i do have it all on video i she let me watch it and i was freaking like sobbing when i saw this it is incredible but go on so i said to him that i had experienced a miscarriage and he said um well i want you to know that your grandma has named this baby she keeps wanting me to tell you that her name is sarah and i had never we didn't know the gender of the first baby yeah and i was

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um in this place where i'm like i don't want to name the baby because i want to believe that her soul is still there and maybe it's gonna come back and it was just that the body wasn't ready to hold her soul and so we never named her but shane and i did write a song called do you know my name and it was basically like we wanted to know that if we did ever encounter her soul would we know her would she have a name is she gonna know who we are and so he kept saying your grandma wants you to know that she named the baby no i don't know how he knew and like the day before that i said i feel really really guilty because we named jonah we named our second loss but we never named the first one and so it was like i need you to know that she has a name this is what it

A miracle baby prophecy

is and oh my gosh the fact that the name was sarah is interesting to me because my grandma was a very devout catholic and sarah in the bible is the woman who

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was like super super old and was told like you're gonna have a child and she's like there's no way i'm gonna have a child because i'm old i'm past like child bearing years we have been trying for so long don't have a child and the story goes like no you're gonna have a child and i had been told that i had a genetic mutation that essentially my body would spontaneously abort my pregnancies and that i would have to take certain medication and that even wouldn't guarantee that i would carry a baby full term and so the fact that right after that he says um uh she is showing a baby around you and i said well i am pregnant and we haven't announced it and he goes like they just had found out and he goes i want to let you know that this baby is coming through and at that

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point um so like the fact that she named the baby sarah and sarah believed that she was never gonna have a child and then she did miraculously like freaking 80 something years old me felt like i couldn't have a child because of my genetics and then literally and then next time pregnant with that baby and that baby was a full-term pregnancy and so was my one after that so wild yeah wow so okay so so oh my god having already has some backstory with this man this medium who told you about emily did you go into this reading like when he told you did you like kind of like it sounds corny but like have an open heart like did you fully believe or did you still have some like skepticism no no i i don't have skepticism like i feel like i'm a pretty good judge of character i feel like i can tell when someone's bullshitting or they're being

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disingenuous um so like the second that reggie started talking i'm like you know some [ __ ] and you don't tell me yeah like yeah by the reaction of your reaction on the video that you 100 were like waiting for that confirmation and then when you got

Skepticism and belief

it it was almost like well especially like you hadn't told him anything like you no wait like you didn't say yeah yeah like he said it all yeah yeah no one knew that we were pregnant it was very early because you were not going to tell people i think no i only started telling people after he said the baby was coming through that's how much i trusted what he was saying because at that point i'm like he says he's coming he's coming like there's there's no doubt in my mind this man is legit and he did that's amazing yep yeah all right our next crossover will bring reggie on yeah

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moments like this where where reggie is getting information about your future and so the future has been somewhat determined so it's like it's so interesting what can you figure out it's so right the weirdest thing we've read our story very recently about someone who like what was it like there was like some kind of type of message oh it was about a dog it was like they had a dream the night before and it was like an uncle saying like showing a bunch of images and saying like your dog is going to die tomorrow and showed a bunch of images and so then they were on the road the next day and he he was like driving and he was like that's he's like wait a second i recognize that sign and he immediately like the dog i guess like accidentally pressed on the button of the window and was reaching out and a truck was coming by and he was able to ride his dog because he had that message so he reached out and grabbed the tail at like literally had the dog by the tail out the window and like pulled him back pulled him back in and saved his dog's life because he had the knowledge from this dream which

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just blows my mind and gets me to those conversations where it's like how much of the future crying pre-planned and how like like how come some spirits can step in and intervene and sometimes yeah it just it's how it's meant to be like it's this question of fate and destiny and well because it makes a question of like when a bad thing happens to me how come a spirit didn't did you come out how come i didn't get one but this other person did and it's like how does it how does it work or we don't have an answer you guys probably don't unless you somehow our like tapped in and could give us like let me concert reggie yeah i think it's interesting because there was such a point and like that he was saying hey these weird things that you were experiencing that you would have never picked up on were actually the spirits trying to warn you in the best way that they could that like yeah this is not i forgot one of the bit like one of the most shocking moments of the

Spiritual intervention stories

whole reggie story from the beginning so the reason i was like hey there's stuff going on in my room i had an eye home remember those like speakers that you

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can put your ipod in yes it was not plugged in didn't have batteries but it started going off like i had set an alarm i had a cell phone that was no longer connected to any service and had been shut off for like two weeks started ringing like i was getting a phone call twice so i asked reggie if that was the guy who had completed suicide whose name started with r and he's like no that's your grandma she's trying to warn you you're doing something that you shouldn't be doing and i was thinking about leaving school to move in with this guy who was abusive and i was gonna drop out of college like i was gonna like disown my family was gonna disown me because of it and i was like i don't care but love um but so i went home and i told my mom about this experience and i said so yeah grandma came through and emily came through and then he also mentioned this guy but i have i don't know what that is um he said that his name started with r and he had completed suicide and but he was like my family

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but not my family and she she just looked at me with this blank face and she said my cousin um robbie committed suicide after his family found out about an affair that he had and he thought they would never forgive him right so this person who was like my family but not my family who i've never met who went through this yeah kind of like hey i can see that you're going down a path that i also kind of went down i need to be here for you but can i also say like how amazing it is that he uh in his in his actual like spirit form has that understanding and has that like i need to help people active mentality because yeah we we hear stories we read stories all the time of spirits that are like confused like we're staying we're literally talking to you from a haunted hotel where down down the hall from us there it's it's haunted by a couple brides that 100 years apart had

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completed suicide in the same exact room after being like essentially left at the altar it's like there are so many moments where spirits are confused and like things do happen and that they don't necessarily get to take that active approach to help others because they're trying to to work through their own trauma and experiences and understand what happened to them and there's some sort of like shroud in the astral plane like we can't understand because we don't remember our past lives right anymore or like what happened before but like the fact that your mom's cousin was able to move past that and also recognize and intervene and be this like spirit guide for you essentially that's so beautiful yeah that really is it's really cool

A friend's mysterious passing

i had a dream and i've never talked about this on the podcast you've heard this but our friend passed away a couple years ago and i had a dream of her and i won't get into too much details just because we have friends and stuff who listen to this and we don't want to make it too personal but um she died under mysterious circumstances

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um and i had a dream about her kind of like the week she died and she came to me and she seemed very very confused and i've never told anyone outside of the podcast up because i was like i don't want to make people feel uncomfortable but like it is a sad thing where like spirits are confused they don't yeah you know like sometimes it takes times to adjust time to adjust if it's something like sudden or disrespected that's how it might yeah and not in not intentional yeah yeah it was like this yeah it was interesting like with our friend who passed like i think that we've kept up this guard like we've shared a lot with each other but we've also kept up this guard because in in los angeles where we met at college we have i feel like we're very lucky in that we have a friend group of like like 12 girls that that ended up being really close to one another and have maintained a friendship which i think is wow sometimes like a very rare thing and so i think very sensitive with each other about our our friend olivia

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who did pass away because it was heartbreaking for everyone obviously because it was sudden yeah and it there was yeah i mean obviously like any any death is difficult but i think that there were things that happened that that like piece together like we all obviously like talked with one another about like what we think is going on and like helping each other through our grief but then there were things that she's like dropped in sabrina's dreams or like come through mediums we've talked to and it's like started to piece itself together and it is really interesting like the only experience i've had directly with our friend olivia who passed was and this is odd and i'm not sure who i who i told outside of probably yes but the night she passed obviously it was sudden so no one was like awake in predicting that she was going to pass like clutching my microphone we haven't talked about this like no yeah but i was in chicago at the time for a work trip and i was staying at a hotel and i woke up in the middle of the night

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and for some reason was like i need to look at olivia's location and find my friends and she doesn't share her location with me and but i looked it up and i was like staring at it and it was like liv doesn't share like this person doesn't share her location with you but i was like she was the one person that i was like i need to look at her location like why yeah or not you know like across our friend group people have like

Premonitions and emotional links

individual friendships and then we have our friendship as a group and i think our individual friendship was probably a lot weaker than my relationships with a lot of other people in that group and so it was a strange thought for me to say like i need to look at her location and see what she is doing right now right and then flash forward about 14 hours it's like the evening now of the following day because it was like wee hours of the morning that i'd woken up and a friend calls and tells me that she'd passed and it took about a week to find out like when and what happened well we still don't know what happened like that's right yeah we have an ancient yeah but yeah there's no confirmation yeah in terms of what our friend group has been

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told but but like the point being is i found out that the moment that i had woken up and said like i need to check olivia's location was actually the moment that she was passing away no wow i've chilled oh my gosh but it's upsetting when things like that happen yeah because there was like there was some connection there was something there's like some call out and there's nothing that you can do in the moment because you don't know what it means no right exactly no but now you have all of these feelings of like like and i'm projecting here but like grief or regret or like something that could have been done there when obviously yeah you know she had already she clearly had already passed at that point and and right is the type of person who throughout your life when people pass away even if you're not that close with them if you have a connection to them because you are so open to the paranormal we have different sabrina experiences connections in her dreams yeah and i get a little premonitiony

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where like yeah around the day or like even sometimes like a year in advance i've had moments where i'm like someone's going to die here and then like a year later i'm like someone is about to die and then it will it will like come to fruition where someone i know died in that moment in that place that i said someone was going to die like a year before but there's no way but there's nothing i don't have enough information there's not like right this thing where i can hold and be like i have premonitions and i can warn people it's just this it's a it's this feeling and that's it yes yeah like close friends i've known like when someone's about to break up because i just like i'm like i feel heartbreak all day long i know someone's about to experience it and then a day later like someone gets their heart broken and it's the worst feeling because you feel it like it's your own feeling yeah yes but

A ghostly intervention

you can't step in and you can't do anything about it right you're an identity spirit you were like a guardian in a past life or like maybe this is

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those energies are still there but you're like yeah yeah you do forget everything else yeah i feel that and like it's weird when you have those feelings because you're like i'm either spot on or i'm full of [ __ ] and i don't know how to tell the difference right and you don't want to feel confident enough to bring it up yeah no you don't want to be like too not dramatic but you know what i mean like to like this is going to for sure be a thing and then people because it feels and it scares people you don't know how people are going to react there are certain things like where i've had i had a friend who um was like having a terrible eating disorder and like going to really like a terrible time in life and i kept having really really bad dreams about her and i was like you know what i'm just gonna reach out to her and i'm just gonna be like how are you and then we hadn't talked we don't talk every day i hadn't talked to her in a long time and she was like in a very very low place and i'm glad that i reached out to her but that's something that's easy because it was like it felt so obvious to me and it wasn't this weird amorphous ambiguous thing it

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felt very straightforward but then it goes back to the thing where like you know jerry with you like reggie giving you all this information when you had the reading with him it makes me wonder like in that moment sabrina like was it something that just like naturally like your energy absorbed what you need to or is it spirit intervention where like someone's like this person needs something and if i give sabrina the message i know sabrina is going to reach out to this person and it's going to like come yeah what are the connections it's so funny you know it's always sunny in philadelphia where they have like the board of red string and like see i had that same situation happen to me where my there was a girl i was friends with in high school but like i had a best friend and she had a best friend and then the four of us would hang out but like we were not the ones that were close and after high school she was dating this guy she ended up getting engaged to him and i don't know why but i felt the need to like take her out and be like hey you are not acting like yourself um wow this is very different and that

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was not a conversation i typically would have had with her she had like lost a ton a ton of weight um her anxiety was through the roof and then time goes by and i randomly decide to message her and i'm like hey do you want to go shopping like i i feel like we should just meet and talk because everything okay and she's like i just broke off my engagement i haven't told anyone and that day we chose to go shopping at the mall where she met her now husband like i went right we went into the store and they connected and now they're married so like i've

Listener story: The locket

never heard them oh my god it's real that's amazing oh yeah that way wow i sang that that's beautiful but also like something it says something about like in the moment jerry like a lot of people

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could have had that feeling or that thought and then brushed it off yeah like why would i why would i have to i have a meeting today i don't have time for this why would i i'm not even that cool person like i don't i can't believe i i love how much we can talk like we yes this is amazing easily because we have four hours together but we do have stories we this is truly the sleepover where it's like this is you stay up until like 2 a.m non-stop time who's gonna be the first to sleep and draw draw something on each other see this is why we're called ladies and tangents because we want you to know that we do have a topic but we may never talk about it although we may never talk on the journey there yeah we're gonna take several pit stops on the journey that's a detail i love it

Embarrassing moments

okay well we did decide we were gonna read creepy kid stories and we have a

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bunch so we brought some from our listeners you brought some from your listeners yes yes you guys want to go first we can switch we can go like sierra and then i'll go and then jerry and karen yeah yes that's good oh well exactly well here's the thing i don't read so sierra's going to read all of them yeah but that's right okay guys yes i'm not a good reader either but i don't know i don't think i am you you are you definitely do i've listened i feel like you guys are because we watch your videos like you guys don't have nearly as many cuts as i would expect and i think really yes you know what here's the thing we'll send you an uncut version of one of our episodes well this is very much like what it's like at a family function because you just have to figure out where someone's going to take a breath and then you insert your get in there yeah yeah we do that

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literally the only breaks we take is like bathroom breaks because a lot of camera shuts off and if we mess up we just kind of roll with that we're like this is on brand for us so let's just push through like i can't tell you i don't know how much you've listened to ours but i have a really bad habit of mispronouncing words you say us too when i point at sarah i'm like yes this [ __ ] can't take it i'm sorry who's the one who's like oh god i can't read today okay here's the difference though is when i don't know like i'll approach a word and be like how do i pronounce this sabrina and then you'll give me the feedback but you move in confidence throughout sentences here's my my truly my my biggest like regret in life no not the biggest but toxic trait sixth grade it was sixth grade picture this okay i'm 12 years old i just got my period i had the biggest crush on dylan cruz he

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was a cute soccer player who had like longish hair he had a crush on my sister who was the hot eighth grader and you had your mustache when you were like my mustache my unibrow i'm pakistani what do you want from me i had my unibrow i'm still kidding we're yes we're harry we're hairy woman and i'm proud uh and i'm sitting in biology class and i have to read from the biology book oh no this is an orgasm yeah this orgasm yeah you know yes i still to this day and i read it so confidently i get through the sentence and i look up everyone is bursting out laughing and i'm like what did i say it's so terrible here's the thing too that i to be fair why'd they make those words so close they shouldn't have that's not right and then you're gonna make twelve

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my problem is i don't know if this was also your problem but i grew up reading and like not really interacting with other children a lot so all of the ways i pronounce like pronounce things are ways that i read it in my head we keep talking about that here in texas we're like colonel andrew jackson johnson smith it's celeb [Laughter] unless someone said that's that's one of the things that i've actually i feel like i've gotten better with with age and i i will credit my mom with this because i think she always approached vocab like she's got a very amazing vocabulary and like pronounces everything exactly as you would like a standard american like no accent or whatever and i think i was struggling in middle school because there are so many embarrassing moments like that where you mispronounce a word and she always kind

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of gave me the tools to be like oh instead of making yourself embarrassed or like letting kids tease you about it you're like oh i've actually never heard that word said out loud before can you tell me how it said so it kind of gets the pressure back on the other person yes that's assertive that's confident if there's anything i found out it's that we are not assertive my dad always said to me no one can hurt your feelings without your permission and i was like i'll give you permission i don't give you permission i you just gotta grab the spotlight and put the light right back on them

Listener story: Ouchie the ghost

yeah well i just put it on me and i'm like you know like what you see look somewhere else i don't care i cried a lot i'm like let's be in darkness i was gonna say i want i run as far away from that light as i can we balance the scales nicely yeah exactly we complement each other this is

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sierra we're going to put the spotlight on you and you're going to be the reader for the first story sweet okay okay i'll tell this the first story here we go no pressure on me but i feel so much pressure okay hey friends so jumping right in i kept this story about my son to myself out of pure embarrassment imagine my surprise when i submit to my favorite murder the podcast and they read it on their minisode so it goes like this i'm outside raking leaves one fall my son who is three at the time is playing out there with me he comes running up to me because he found a necklace in the yard it was a dirty chain with a heart pendant about the size of a 50 cent piece it looked like something from claire's honestly and he asked to wear it i said sure because why not he wore it all evening and then we thought about him taking it off for bath time but i eventually just let him wear it while also trying to clean it up a little so he goes to bed and i'm finally able to take it off him i lay it on the counter and i'm cleaning up i pick it back up

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and inspect it a little closer to see that it looks to see what it looks like and it opens it's a locket my excitement as i grabbed a knife to pry it open what could be inside a photo of someone's cute baby maybe someone's long lost love from a long time ago it pops open and dust goes all over my hands okay not dust it's ash [ __ ] ashes i only know this because i have some of my dad's ashes not only did they go all over my hands but down the sink the only thing i thought in that minute was holy [ __ ] my house is going to be so haunted from this not only that but i was letting my three-year-old play with this locket bathe with it and he slept with it he also told me that he heard someone talking to him through the vent beside his bed no it says okay bye i love you both nicole oh i have so many questions through this exactly that's the [ __ ] our

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listeners do they they leave you with so many questions how rude just like what was the voice is it a woman's a man i just want to know who the ashes belong to well i was in the leaves here's here's a secret um i know nicole you do yes she's a friend of mine so i can ask her these questions and get back we should do like phone a friend live you know

Spiritual attachments

we've got nicole on the line here's your lifeline oh my gosh she messaged me and she was like do you need creepy kid stories and she sent it to me directly because she's like you're gonna want you're gonna want this you're gonna want this that's confidence that i need to embrace i know and i read it and i was like i did want that thank you yeah thinking about it part of me and this is maybe the difference between sabrina and i too is like sabrina always goes generally to the negative dark scary spin and i always like try to spin it into this like like heartwarming intentional love story

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and so part of me was like oh like the locket like that what luck for this child to to have this other person looking over him but the fact that the voice is coming from the vent immediately negates like all of those potential feelings yep it's just like what do you do what are you doing in there bud why are you waking the bed why are you in an event why don't you follow me in and find out no no no no no no no it's like it's like the sewer but the vent it's like come here you can't tell me that your sister was possessed one time and then talk to me like that maybe i'm okay this is maybe i'm spreading a rumor and i was actually the one possessed that is so very i'm stealing my roommate's life of you i know yeah i'm lit i realize i'm living my movie well it's funny because earlier you were talking about like basically being the observer of your life and now trying to like step forward and like live your life but like you you also like observed

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such oh such darkness why i thought you were gonna say i'm observing my life because a demon has been living it and i'm finally trying to step forward and take this on how i was filling in those blood again the positive versus the dark i thought she was gonna say you were observing yourself and now you're owning your own power and taking control of your life i was finally kicked yeah demon to the curb [ __ ] for you well we all have our demons but sometimes they're literal yeah that's true yeah sometimes oh my god yeah that's that's spooky um do you want oh am i up well yeah i think i did say that was the order okay i don't know i was in the bathroom okay [Laughter] asmr champagne this is from our listener arentha and the subject line is little ghost boy i

Listener story: The ghost boy

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am not your mom and then dot dot dot maybe if you read this story he will find his real mom hi guys sometimes i wonder why ghosts choose certain people to haunt maybe we look like someone they left behind on earth or maybe they were lost at the time of their death maybe they have unfinished business or they just want to hug their loved one one last time or maybe it's to share a story well i guess it's my ghost turn to share his story my ghost oh what my story is about a two-year-old ghost boy who may have thought i was his mom in 2011 i was living in tuba city arizona i was asleep and woke up to the sounds of footsteps and giggling whoever it was was in the kitchen jumping around and stomping their feet mind you i do not have a little one my kids were in high school at this time so i lay there scared and afraid to look up i heard the little kid come into the room and he was running around my bed

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giggling and baby talking no incident happened a few more times in the next three years one night i awoke to this little boy running around my bed again this time he managed to crawl onto my bed and i felt him crawling on my legs no no no no no no no you gotta move he was giggling and continuing with baby talk i covered my head with the blanket and did not want to look at him my friend woke me up and said i was crying holding the blanket over my head this little boy followed me to two other places that i visited i clearly can remember him as a two-year-old he wore khaki colored pants a striped polo shirt and brown shoes it looked like he had a buzz cut i remember because once i sat up in bed and saw him running around the kitchen table in from 2016 to 2018 i lived in oklahoma with my boyfriend and i thought this little boy moved on but nope i woke up

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to his footsteps in the kitchen and living room he must have known i was awake because he came into the bedroom ran around the bed and i could continue hearing him babble and giggle it happened a few more times and one night he made it up to the side of the bed and i felt his head hit my back oh my gosh i woke up my boyfriend and told him he's here again i was hysterical and so scared my boyfriend got up and searched the house and found nothing he then said to me saying maybe this kid thinks you're his mom or you look like his mom or he just wants you to be his mom tell him you're not his mom and that he needs to move on but then he said maybe it's not a kid but a demon posing as a child why did you do that now so the next night before bedtime i prayed and i also told the little boy i'm sorry your lost little one but i am not your mommy i'm sure your mom is also searching for you so please leave me

Demons and children

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alone and go find your real mom thankfully she's [ __ ] up so leave me alone please park i banish you go find your own mom yeah apparently it worked because she says thankfully that was the last time i saw him or heard him but every night i still wonder will he come back again will this story bring him back i don't know um thank you arentha i keep picturing the gorilla from tarzan being like i'm it's mother now [Laughter] i just don't want her to be our mom yeah she was the best mom she was truly let's put that go go there kid yeah there's a nice gorilla waiting to be your mom no that's not me it's so wild it was crazy i think one of the things that freaks me out is like it's one thing to be in an apartment and have that and be like oh the little kid is just like here and like waiting to like find his mom or it's like finding maternal figures to kind of like pass the time

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while while he exists here but the fact that he followed like the little boy like followed her like he clearly places sort of like attachment to her and was like i'm choosing you as as my mom i feel best with you it does make me wonder if like they are connected like through a past life in some way like what if you are his mom but like even like in a past life were yeah his mom were his mom and you just banished him you know what i've always wondered is like okay so one of the most emotional things for me when i became a mom was realizing that the version of my son that i had when he was a newborn like doesn't exist anymore and will never exist again so in my mind because i'll look at pictures of my oldest son as a newborn and look at him now and i'm like there's no [ __ ] way that's the same thing this is not the same baby alike so part of me is like does that version of him exist somewhere like in another timeline like does he exist

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is there because time in theory is circular like is there a time where like it could cross paths and like she was maybe experiencing one of her children just like in a different timeline that's so fascinating apparently we talk about that a lot yeah and we talk about that a lot it's like what i just what it's time yeah well one time first of all one is like not real but parallel universes and like glitches in the matrix always confuse me so much because it's like okay i have this theory because i think i'm invisible i i also am terrified i think i'm going to die in a car crash i have this theory that like any time someone cuts we are the same person i'm sorry i'm sorry how many times have i told you that that's how i'm going to die are you joking me right now i actually ran a red light one time with her and she was like no this is how i go it's

Timeline theories

fine this makes sense i'm convinced maybe we both maybe we are connected

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from a past life and we both died in a car accident in a past life i'll tell you right now we should never travel together i was just gonna say that i'm like i feel like after this we're all gonna stay in touch and like we're friends now but there's no way in hell together no no no never okay but i have this theory that like i've been it's like every time i get cut off i'm like what if i actually got hit and i died in this accident but because that happened in a different timeline i now jump to a different time i am and i'm living here now because that's just where i continue on i swear to god i almost said that in our last one that we talked because when we were talking about like i think i'm invisible or i think i died i always then go back to these moments where i had like near death like yes if it would have turned this way i could have been t-boned or whatever like happens yeah where i just like oh my god i can't believe that i nearly missed that and then i'm like what if i didn't miss it what if in another world you know like this happened it did happen yeah that hap that thought is in my mind like every day yeah

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constantly this is reminding me of like a listener story we read it must have been like a year or two ago at this point but like someone was with their their mom in a car or like was like on the sidewalk and essentially like remembers them getting hit and then like wakes up another 100 yards forward like on the sidewalk and so they're like did we die in that other version of the timeline and like just like just forward to another one like wake up in another timeline i like the idea of blooping forward but like also if you move forward like are you pushing out another like consciousness or are you just like absorbed into the next one like how does that work if there's 17 000 versions of you and you blew it into one of them is this why i have no memory of like anything before like age 13 because you've got blood yeah that's what i think it's not trauma it's definitely not trauma and it has to be getting polled

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[Laughter] urban dictionary look it up folks are you reading another one i think yeah is it your turn or is it are we going back six years back and forth i just think it's funny how you the way that your listeners write their stories compared to ours is kind of very different by far the one that sabrina wrote is probably like the shortest version of all that that we get but they're so

Listener story: Dangerous encounters

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they are and like ours are so long but they're very much yeah if you're here from ours i'm not saying you aren't beautiful writers you just take a different angle yeah like these are the longest one it has and they're still short but they do it very much how we are on the podcast yeah conversational and like kind of a tweet yeah yeah it's essentially like i'm gonna tell you something that's uncomfy but i'm gonna do it in a funny way yeah yeah like as if we're just chatting about it yeah yes yes i love it exactly okay so this is hi i'm cheyenne she her pronouns i work in a private religious school as a teacher i only tell you it's religious because most of these parents tell their kids that the paranormal is not real so i know this little girl wasn't making this up well one day this little girl was having a very bad day all day she was tired and her mom said she woke up and found out that that the little girl was up all night painting her nails her mom was always late for dismissal so i called the little girl to the double doors and was sitting on the floor with her talking i noticed her nails painted

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different colors and i told her i liked them she told me thanks ouchie did them for me it took me by surprise but you know just thought it was her sister's nickname or something so i said ouchie and she said yeah she lives in my room at my house no no no no no no no no no no no when i tell you when i tell you i just wanted to throw this child outside the door and call it a day i mean it not really oh so me being me i decided to ask more questions wrong choice i asked what this girl looked i asked what this girl looked like and she told me that this algae chick that paints her nails has bleeding holes all over her body that won't get better even with kisses my response was oh that means she's tried to kiss right no right she tried to give ouchie kisses it's sweet but it's so terrifying it's so cute

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her name is algie because she's covered in them yeah cause she's got booboos she's got her own keys hard pass my response was oh okay while simultaneously [ __ ] my pants i tried dropping the ouchy subject but this little girl wanted to keep going again my mistake for asking [Laughter] we questions the accountability yes she then tells me that alti keeps her up until the sun wakes up sometimes because sometimes she doesn't get to play with her during the day because of school so the night before ouchie once wanted to paint nails and the little girl said at first ouchie couldn't do it so she painted ouchi's nails first until auchi figured out how to paint her nails and then went on to say when the sun woke up that ouchy tucked her into bed so it creeped me out as one should be and that day i just clocked out as soon as her mom picked her up and decided i would never ask about ouchie again oh my god the end it might tell me that ouchie tucks them into bed i'm like well

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ouchie is also your mother now because i have to move far far away yeah you will stay here without you but the thing that's crazy about that story and this again i've said my son has like a connection with the paranormal world i didn't even tell you guys about debbie but he had a he had a person named debbie who would like come and visit him and and i would hear him over the baby monitor talking and babbling and playing and i would be like hey who are you talking to and he'd be like debbie it was always debbie and i would say where is debbie here and he would like point right beside him what does she want my home so like he was just like she wants to be in our home and like she wants to just what if he met my home as in like my body noah does give old lady vibes he does he really does oh my gosh and he said that she was a nurse and like all of these things he had like a whole thing about debbie now i'm just thinking about the time that noah brought you water and told you to take sips when you were sick

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he takes very good care of me

Debbie the nurse ghost

he's a good boy call me debbie now and she is a nurse does he have a middle name because if not you should make a debbie or just change yeah [Laughter] no what's weird is his middle name actually does start with the d so that's really weird noah d debbie um the d stands for debbie so but i always said i was like i honestly don't mind the debbie's there because it seemed like they had a good thing going like she wasn't doing anything wrong and like when she would cry and then i would hear him playing i was like oh debbie's got him like she's just i don't have to go in she was just very had no ouchies no no outrageous that i know of actually but

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it sounds terrifying like that's such a little kid you can tell that like that didn't come from a parent like she's not making it from a movie or a parent because like that's such a little kid way to explain those things instead of like you know well the part where it's like when she figured out how to paint my nails yeah which means like there was a big barrier in terms of like the the ghost yeah being able to like move into the physical world it means that girls can actively do and touch and do things i have picked all of my nail polish off well thank god ouchie knows how to do this we need you to paint you'll never pay for a manicure again a fresh palette for you yeah yes i'm so sorry do not call ouchie to my house i would never i'm sorry algie stop talking listen we're not your mom we're not your mom you need to find your mom's it's like voldemort like you're not allowed to say

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ouchy's name like never i fully believe if you say anyone's name three times they think they're invited when someone tells me when someone tells me not to say their name three times i'm like i have to say it three times you say it like 17 times the intrusive thought it's like bloody mary over and over and over and over you said it twice i have tried it with beyonce though and she didn't come so that was helpful i'm trying to get a free concert i mean it's really you have to join the illuminati as well in order to come

Scams and trust

daddy tucci i take everything back that i said in our episode he's got no shirt on he's just like please where's my robe um yeah we did get reached out to by the illuminati but i have beef with them because they only addressed sabrina so i

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was like you know what forget it they said dear sabrina and they spoke my name wrong what the disrespect what if they were like you spell your name wrong we'll tell you how it's spelled the illuminati honestly is like great another caller do you want my back do you want to manage my bank accounts here you go i feel very jealous here's my social security number don't do that again no no give your information out to someone you guys already know honey story i accidentally put my social security listen here's the thing paypal sent me an email and i was like this has to be legit so i clicked the link and they were like all of your information's been hacked we need it all again and i was like i don't remember putting my social security number in here well i'll do it and so i did it and anyways so i got scammed and i'm 30 like not 80. so that's embarrassing it's insane how did you get out of this what did you have to do i just changed all of my like credit card information

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and stuff but 100 percent someone could be me out in the world right now like i don't [ __ ] know the amount it was me that i have go ahead that's what i mean i'm like my credit score is like 420 so how about it please please yeah i feel i feel worse for you guys sorry whoever takes it better like maybe you'll notice your credit score is going up it has it really has gone up so i'm like good looks good luck thank you it does make you feel a little uh less aggressive towards the people that that do succumb to scams like that like it's like the traditional like old old older person that does it yeah but i feel like really they get so tricky nowadays it's like that's what my grandparent is just changing you being like wait can you send me an amazon gift card i got locked out of our shared account yeah okay yeah it's ridiculous like my own grandma came to my house and she was like i got scammed i was like me too grandma i think it's okay see i've i've just adopted this like

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world view of just not trusting anyone so even if like even if craig right now asked me like hey will you just give me an amazon gift card like [ __ ] you i know what you're trying to do yeah yeah you want my money i don't think so yeah were you playing the long game you put four years into this and now you wanna no yeah i pay our taxes like i have your social like i write your socials no you don't prove it what is it yeah what is it right now zero zero one she's a five like the hollywood five um okay i have is this the last one yeah i think so i'm sad we have the pack we tried to get later check out and they were like we can only do 1 p.m and right now they're like we have ghosts that are taking up these are busy try kick us out we dare you we'll get dragged out live

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by the ghosts they've employed them taking our hair good content uh okay this is from our listener ashley i'm i have like a pit in my stomach thinking i'm gonna like not be able to read i'm really relieved afterwards i'm

Listener story: The haunting

like when i finished i was like wow i can relax now normally it's just finished i've never had to read yeah you gotta be good that's a good deal we're gonna we're gonna institute that on our podcast and we're gonna be the reader now [Laughter] i don't know [Laughter] switch real quick okay this is from ashley i've had ghost encounters since i was a little girl but the first physical encounter was in 2008. i was 23 almost 24. i lived three hours from my mom and she was going out of town and i asked

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and she asked to house it whoa already i'm [ __ ] up [Laughter] she was going out of town and asked me to house it for her i had three toddlers at the time and my car had just broken down i wanted to go to a family reunion on my husband's side but i reluctantly agreed to house it instead my mom drove to pick me up and my kids and took us to her house we were only there for a few days and after and after and after an afternoon of a trip to the library and lunch it was time for the kids naps two boys and one girl now my daughter was around five at the time and had her own room my two younger boys shared a room i put them down for their naps and the boys fell asleep pretty fast but i could hear my daughter playing with her toys in her room i was sitting on the couch relaxing looking at the back door and the couch was facing the kitchen and the hallway that leads to the back door my mom has this huge

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dog so the docky door is large and as i sat there listening to my daughter play i remember looking at the doggy door and thinking i bet a human could fit through that i don't like sleeper so attractive thoughts yeah you just invited something yeah right i'm a light sleeper so as i started to doze off i could still hear my daughter playing in her room talking with her toys and singing as she usually did then out of nowhere i opened my eyes because someone very angrily was choking me i could not breathe i could barely move as i tried to see clearly i made up the man's was wearing that the man was wearing work boots and blue jeans i was being lifted off of the couch as if i could feel his hands around my throat they were squeezing tighter and tighter and i started to lose all function and consciousness as this was happening all i could think was that i'm going to die and this man is going to kill my children i could not move i managed to slowly open my eyes and i see my daughter

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standing at the arm of the couch before my eyes rolled back into my skull i'm going to die i thought and right then my body dropped and i could breathe again i opened my eyes shot up off of the couch and no one was there i ran down the hallway to check on my boys sound to sleep i go to my daughter's room and she asked what i was doing and i replied i'm just checking on you did you ever nap or were you just playing and she says just

Validation and fear

playing i checked the rest of the house and outside and no one was there so i sat back on the couch thinking to myself that dream was gnarly what the actual [ __ ] and as i sat on the couch rubbing my face in disbelief of what had just happened my daughter came into the living room and stood right in front of me and she said mommy who was that guy doing this to you and she started making the hand gestures of someone choking another person i freaked out i grabbed all of our essentials that i could i threw them into my mom's truck i grabbed the kids myself i called my mom i told her we're taking the truck we're going home and i

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said that her house was haunted and whatever it was almost killed me after 16 years of living in her house my mom too believes me now from ashley oh what did the mom experience it's so terrifying to experience but then you're like oh it was just a horrifying dream and then of course your child comes out and like who choked you earlier yeah i i literally oh my god that makes me want to throw up because that whole story made me want to throw up so how do we know that no one was there yeah exactly that's a really good point oh that's a really good point that is really terrifying too i need that information about why the mom believes her because there's other things that have happened then that would explain that yeah maybe that guy wasn't there but like how do we know he wasn't there either way not a

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good situation to be in no no danger all around it's scary because if it was a person like a person got into the house which is terrifying but if it was the doggy door it truly had the the energy to physically strangle her which is something that i feel like is so rare when you when it comes to the paranormal oh yeah sometimes i throw things but it gets hard like you don't hear many stories but like physically harm you right oh my god at least from what i've heard about spirits and like energy it takes a lot a lot to even move things to make a sound yeah so like whenever i was having my electronics go off in my room like he was saying she's using every bit of energy she has to get your attention through this electronics so like to imagine that someone has the power to lift you off the couch yeah no right and like i think so many times when we listen to

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stories like this there's always the the thought in our in our minds like what if it is an actual person what if there's someone living in your walls like that a terrible real fear yes but at the same time like the fact that her daughter was there at the edge of the couch watching it happen makes me it does make me think that it is a spirit because i just think that if someone came in and had the ill intent to actually like choke and lift a mother off of the couch with her three young kids at home i would assume that it wasn't just like i'm going to choke and leave it's it's like there's and two like obviously like the daughter must have observed i mean that's obviously trauma for her like yeah right yeah yeah well like i can't imagine being a kid and like just watch i feel like there must have been some understanding to like just be watching it happening and and not being so scared that you're like i'm dreaming this is an actual person like was there an understanding right it was do you guys ever think like

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when you get stories from your listeners about this like do you ever think of the kids in the stories or whoever it is like they're gonna have a podcast in 10 years from now and they're talking about their traumas

Sleep paralysis

yeah i hope so i hope so i hope so part of me before the end where the daughter kind of validated that it happened part of me was like is this just a really intense sleep paralysis situation right because i've had like sleep paralysis where it feels like this is and actually the first time that i had sleep paralysis was a dream like that where um i had a dream that i was like running along your backyard actually backyard's near hers and then she has a pool but in my dream it was like low like my parents do yeah yeah not here but her old house so it always happened as like childhood places i would go to but anyways i was running and i fell in and into the pool and then this person who was chasing me grabbed me by my throat and pulled me out of the pool and was staring at me and when i woke up like sleeper houses everything in my room was

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the way it is except that person was standing there with their hands on my throat like grabbing me and i could not move but i swear to god it was like they were there i i swear to god they were there yeah and it was probably only that i was frozen for like a minute but it felt like it feels like forever yeah yeah and then they were just gone and i was awake and i was like well my perhaps the other thing about the paranormal is like the way that ghosts and and especially powerful like demon or darker spirits or powerful spirits can manipulate time yeah yeah yeah is so unsettling i was so the most recent sleep paralysis episode that i had i was um sleeping up in our room here in this house and i just it was just me and my son who were home ollie forrest wasn't born at the time shane was at work and i heard i heard footsteps in the hallway and i heard my door open and i thought oh shane forgot his keys like he just came

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back for his wallet like whatever and i opened my eyes and an old woman was standing in the door and she was smiling at me but like in a way that i didn't like it's like not a good smell it's like leering yeah like mischief was on her mind yeah and then she turned around and started walking into ollie's room and i could see her on the monitor getting my son and it was like one of the most terrifying things i've ever experienced and i just have to tell myself it was just sleep paralysis you just sleep brows this is your mind making just silly that's what you need to say that yeah yeah yeah yeah because i feel so challenging too to you as a mom being like you're trapped here and you can't do anything and i have one-on-one access to your child the way that she was dressed was very like old-timey and then not that long after that sierra shows up to my house and she thought that i was in the breezeway

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waiting to let her in yeah and i wasn't and she was like why is she just standing there and yes she was like i saw somebody standing like they were going to let me in old timey clothes oh my god and then i told her about the sleep paralysis and i made a joke like why were you just standing there or something i was like it looked like someone was standing there but like in an like a older like victorian outfit and she like freaked out and was like i swear to god and then told me the story and we both panicked because it was terrifying jerry your house is haunted i think i'm haunted i was gonna say i think it's yeah it doesn't sound like it's you you need to you need reggie to come in and uh any any medium i've ever talked to has always said that i'm a sensitive like that i am somebody great we're all haunted ears

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it's everything we know so we're all sweet sounding we're all haunted here your video did just glitch when you said that and so i'm even more scared but that's fine we're in a haunted hotel the ghosts are like yes we are hunted here and i was gonna say we've pushed it this long without anything happening i feel like we're really trying like yeah we're testing we're testing the water yeah yeah well so far in this room that we're in because we're staying in the driscoll hotel in austin texas which is supposed to be the most haunted hotel yeah and i haven't had anything happen but every single time sabrina goes into the bathroom the lights flicker not every time when i just peed it didn't which is great but like to be fair that happens you're probably like seven percent right now yeah yeah i was showering and shaving my legs yesterday and the lights flickered twice and i was like okay i'm more shocked that you shave your legs than i am i know i was like what's that it's hot it's hot in austin i usually you gotta wear a shirt i'm telling you i'm like i may as well be bigfoot um

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what does that say like you know we keep it in the family over here yeah what does that say about corbin corinna tried to harry people um you know if you see it every day sometimes it just like goes [Laughter] anyway it's hot here and i needed to shave my legs and now chris is no longer attracted to me did you want me to be a little bit yeah a confidence boost right of course we're all attractive here are you guys haunted and attractive here confidence yeah confidence yeah thank you guys for bringing your listener stories and for bringing all of your stories yeah yeah thank you so much thank you so much thank you so much it was so fun our sleepover was so fun if you haven't already checked out the first part where we just get deep

Conclusion

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and yeah on ladies and tangents please go check it out um and we will you guys whisper with sabrina and i'll just say it normal okay okay okay okay see you on the other side