The Invisible String Theory | Who Are We Unknowingly Attached To? (Ep 267)

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very spooky hi hello this is two girl one ghost two girls one ghost and we are your ghostesses that is Karen and I am Sabrina and I know that you're the one who's about to have a baby but I would like to talk about babies for one second cuz I am sure go for it currently babysitting my goddaughter slne noomi it's so fun to say goddaughter instead of just niece god daughter you have power godm mother there is no no better feeling than a

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baby crying when you leave the room like wanting you so badly that they miss you and they start crying there's no better feeling a does it happen with your mom yeah she just loves her relatives oh no I mean like it only happens with me oh like I leave her with my mom it's so funny cuz you know I feel like everyone wants like to understand the baby so we put our own narratives into their minds but I know she wants me also I think you have said that you are a great babysitter so she's like I know my needs are going to be met I have all the attention that I need when Sabrina is here and so I will cry for Sabrina she will give me exactly what I want I think I'm I'm so good at it because there's so much of like my inner child especially right now like I've spent so much time working on like my inner child that it is so fulfilling not only to me but just

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like my child my inner child to just be childlike I can't even tell you the amount of dance moves I've done the amount of like terrible singing I've done the amount of crawling I've done the if you need a baby babysitter hit me up text me and it's just like you're responding to every single one of noom's needs yeah which is something that you know like to heal your inner child you're also in a way responding to every one of your needs that's true like you're giving yourself what you want what baby Sabrina wanted she did however pinch my nipple so hard yesterday like gave me a purple nipple and it's not that like my nipple was out well is she is she breastfed she was but she was also just like lifting herself up on me and I never wear a bra and she grabbed my left nipple right like dead spot on on the target Bullseye oh my God and pulled herself up by my pineapple I've

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been seeing these funny videos of people talking about like watching their children kind of like really aggressively do things on their little pacifiers right before they're supposed to start breastfeeding and being like oh my [ __ ] god what am I in for that's about to be my nipple oh my gosh no Emy she's so cute she is so cute what a little precious angel yeah are you so glad you flew out

Life updates and moving

to help your mom I'm so glad I'm take yeah yeah hey if you lived on the East Coast it would be that much easier to just go whenever I'm telling you it's becoming closer and closer to reality I'm pushing for it I'm pushing hard but not so hard I'm not pushing as hard as I did in years past because you were entertaining the conversation always and so my heart did break a little bit when I really thought I was like making some serious progress then

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you're like well I wouldn't I'm not actually moving and I was like oh so all these conversations all of these what ifs it was all a lie well there's a lot of things that have changed in my life in the last two years and there's a lot of realizations that I've come to and there's also like I never wanted LA to be forever and and I think I had said that but I felt as if my career was so la based that I didn't have the flexibility or the freedom to go anywhere else and all you know I do have a lot of like family and friends out there or friends that have become family you know but um now with the podcast and my change in perception and desire of like my writing career there's nothing really keeping me in La yeah you're not truly forced to stay in LA right and you know you're not the only friend who has given me the false hope of leaving La to come explo like I we had a friend who was literally asking me questions about

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Which towns to live in in Vermont and I really thought she was going to move Caitlyn Caitlyn and Austin were talking about it for like two years and every time I brought it up to any of you you guys were like what no she's never going to do that what the hell is she talking about but she would message me and she would ask interesting I don't think she's ever said anything like that to me actually she has said that they've thought about it because the idea of like starting a new somewhere and just like focusing on them has been appealing but I think also having family nearby is now that they have little baby Conlin yeah well I think that was the conversation before conin was came arriving it was like do we really want to raise our child in LA and that was making them kind of like consider other places and then it was like oh but family's in LA and family is so important to us in raising him but yeah no this is exactly the conversation I've had with so many people people where I'm

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like oh yeah they were considering and everyone's like what they've never said that to me which is exactly what just happened but it was a convo and my heart was waiting I was like oh maybe they just need another year another year another year nope I'm sorry your heart has been broken I hope one day it is not broken and it is given Showers of love and excitement and I can't promise it will be me that gives it to you but I do want to say that well actually can I ask if we can tell everyone the name of your baby because

Portland trip and local food

you've decided to name your baby after me oh I was like what are you talking about Sabrina has decided that my child's name will be Sabrina so yeah in what setting were we even talking about this I can't remember it was when we were on the phone with John oh oh oh yeah and I was like wow I can't believe I didn't think of this until now but Sabrina sounds like a great name

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there's no boys males it's so perfect it's original also I have no idea what the [ __ ] is on my sleeve right now it like looks like remnants of a glazed dut did you have a glazed donut in recent past but now it's making me not confident that I cuz I hung this sweatshirt back up but I thought I'd washed it but maybe not I think I have some of Portland's holy donut on here that sounded perverted but the potato donuts from Portland Yum I want people to call my vagina holy donut the holy donut I have some of Sabrina's holy donut on me I have glaze on my sleeve from a holy donut that sounds awful I love it h but the chocolate coconut from holy donut it's the best they potato donuts from Portland Maine talked about them plenty of times on the podcast obsess with them

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think about them all the time was in Portland visiting on my friends tal and Taylor Brian and I went up for a night and they're dog Arlo who I'm obsessed with I think about him all the time but then we went to the holy donut they were like what do you want to do and I was like the only thing I ever want to do like my only to do is to go to the holy donut I will say I'm really glad that I now know what the holy donut is and have experienced the holy donut so that I can talk about it and not just listen to you speak about it and now I can enjoy the moment now you're participant and my mouth salivates as I think about it and get envious of the fact that you had it actually well you could be in on all of the stuff if you move here like you could experience all the things I experience cuz I share them with you when you're here you're reminding me so much right now of my cousin Lanie who every summer she comes back from Spain and she says I'm moving back to America I'm just going to make the move in December when I'm halfway through the school year then

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she goes back to Madrid and within one week she's like yeah I'm not coming back and it's every year and every year I've believed her this is the one year that I have not she means it in the moment it's just it's just we're human in our brains change and do things differently and I feel like I don't even know what this topic is really that you're going to talk to us about today but I feel like this is all warming ourselves up for that conversation because it's like also can you tell I'm very childlike today just spinning in your chair I mean I think if we had spinny chairs to record in I think we'd spin in them all the time I will say this might be the move is there like a bird cage or

Childhood regression and school

something next to you what's Happ yes I did put I was going to not address it I just wanted to add something ominous into the put Noy in there a caged child that's actually where my mom keeps me at night uh is it a dog crate is that what it is so my mom Fosters and she uses my what

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is or was my brother's room as like the kitten room so it's a cat cage also what if we had swivel chairs and we could do this ready we did hello this is two girls one ghost it would work so well for the like three people that watch on YouTube for everyone else they'd be like it sounds like they're inconsistent with their microphones and their voices you know what it's not for you it's for me and it always has just been for us we're selfish this is exactly why I won't go and listen to previous episodes of the podcast cuz I'm like what the [ __ ] was I even saying back then oh yeah it's been so long to that I'm like I'm going to be horrified at the way I covered certain topics so I'll never go back if I ever go to grad school to study psychology which is also another thing that I've wanted to do because we're human and there's a lot of match me we can have

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matching degrees yeah I would love to do a thesis on myself and in review of myself via the podcast and my psychological degression reg regression regression because I definitely went through a mental breakdown and um honestly I feel like I might be doing one right now yeah Sabrina let me tell you one thing you'll be in good company because that's you and pretty much everyone else in a clinical psych program they like put you through a group counseling everybody shares their deepest darkest Secrets it's like trauma treatment it is it is but you come out with a degree in the end you get a certificate you get to walk on stage it is funny because I did feel like trauma treatment was school like I took notes on different types of psychological like treatments and different techniques and things I was taking notes and yes I was using it and trying to apply it to myself but I really do feel like it was kind of like school it is and I paid a heft a pretty

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penny so it basically was as expensive it might have been more expensive to be honest a lot of grad school programs yeah okay well this is exciting we'll see what path chooses you Sabrina and this is a good time to say that this episode is going to be a little bit

The invisible string theory

different from our previous episodes we usually talk about the Paranormal we usually talk about ghosts and demons and goblins and haunted houses but this time I thought you know let's make this a little bit more of a feel-good episode we're going to talk about a topic that has been coming up in social media quite a bit and it all pertains to love and connection and trusting in the universe so we're going a little to learn how to do that I love woo woo well so remember I like wrote this episode and then I was like wait actually maybe I shouldn't tell you this episode like maybe I shouldn't read this to you and you're like I can handle it cuz I'm going through [ __ ] okay I re I rewarded some

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stuff to be less harsh and direct so that we can live within the fluff and just enjoy it right now in this very moment I'm in an okay place so I can handle it all right so we're going to talk about the invisible string theory which if there are any people out there that are swifties or if they're on Tik Tok they might recognize that name but it's been making its rounds on the internet once more The Invisible String Theory is basically like a theory that the universe is stitched together by these unseen threads and basically you're connected to everyone who you'll ever need in your life people who should meet in our lives like we have this invisible tether to them and whether we them 40 years exactly it totally is and when I was reading about it I did realize that like to some people it can feel very overwhelming this idea because it does pull into question a bit of like you know when you talk about fate and you talk about Destiny you're also

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considering like well do I have free will like do I get to choose what people come into my life like what what the [ __ ] is happening why does it so predetermined predestined cuz if it is that's scary cuz it feels like then you have no control of your life totally but it's not okay so the invisible strength the is not supposed to be about that although like I feel like it anything when you talk about stuff like this where it does kind of like feel a little bit more woooo feel a little bit more hypothetical and kind of like up in space you can connect it to so many different things so some people feel like that but it's not supposed to be about it it's supposed to be about the people or the things or the places that are meant to be in your life coming into your life exactly when you need it most of the conversation is about romantic partners because it's one of those things you know like when we're all young we're like ah don't you just wish you had an envelope delivered to your door when you're like 18 and it says what age you'll be when you meet your your soulmate or whatever and so I feel like we we fall back on The Invisible String Theory when talking about sure

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lovers I do have a question how is it how is it appearing in social media because as someone who is not like up to- date with Trends and stuff I'm curious how it's been in the like social cycle because I despite my not being up to date on things I have seen all the videos about like men or women being like so my partner says that they manifested me which is like weird to think about like did they Practical Magic spell conjure me when they were young oh no it hasn't been that but that's reminding me of my vows to Brian where I literally was like me and my grandma manifested Brian cuz it was like her wish list and my wish list is literally just him so that's amazing no so there's I mean there's a few like trending sounds or whatever that go with this most people are talking about how they met like their boyfriends their girlfriends their wives husbands whatever but then there's another side of the Invisible String Theory on Tik Tok where there's this audio that's like well you don't know me but I know you and it's like a little

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bit creepy and The Invisible String Theory has found itself in that audio but it's a little bit less about romantic partners and more about like weird situations like how people found their house how people found their pet like is their great great grandma now their child stuff like that how can you talk about this without talking about fate and Free Will and Destiny because I know it's hard I mean I we're going to get woooo and I know you have a lot to say but like already my brain is going to time and how it functions and when like kind of like everything everywhere all at once MH different decisions like sprouting off and creating different invisible strings like in in realities anyway totally I'll let you continue well that is why it's such a weird and

Real-life string stories

kind of scary it's it's convoluted but basically the premise of it is the universe is playing Matchmaker in some sort of way and it's also playing therapist it's delivering the people

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that you need or the interventions or opportunities that you need in that moment at the right time and no sooner so in the example of romantic Partners it could be something where it's like you cross paths for many years you never speak You're Going to the same grocery store maybe you belong to the same yoga studio you take the same vacation you're sitting on the same airplane you've crossed paths so many times maybe you find out later on when you're looking at photos from your childhood that your partner was in in the background they were at the same park during your fifth birthday stuff like that where it was like you had so many opportunities to meet each other but you didn't because it wasn't the right time for you to meet I feel like that applies also to like friendships like you know you and I for example totally and this doesn't extend to just romantic Partners like it can be mentors it can be friends it can be children pets objects any type of relationship and I feel like we can all relate to that I mean I'll say all as in you and I because I've definitely met certain

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people where it feels like I've known them for a really long time Beyond just this life there's one person who you're going to hate this it's from our college experience together oh do I know who it is yeah you're like freshman year relationship yeah relationship yeah but it was so wild because immediately upon meeting him and granted I'm going to preface this by saying it was like the most toxic unhealthy relationship and I only dated him for like a month and he cheated on me the entire time but oh to be 18 again right but when I met him it was like this weird connection we were literally born in the same exact Hospital 3 days apart so we were in the hospital together wait I didn't know this yeah that's so bizarre because I didn't realize that he was born in New Jersey because it's he grew up in La yeah but he spent some time cuz his birth parents were from New Jersey and

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then his uncle and Aunt who he went to live with had a home in New Jersey so like even like in the summer between like freshman and sophomore year like I saw him we had a lot of crossover it was really weird that is weird and then it makes me like I'm scratching my head now cuz I'm like well were you brought together at the right time I think in the sense that like I think we were brought together not not at the right time but it was just an interesting like serendipity of being brought together despite having crossed path so many times and it was a really intense relationship that didn't serve me long term but I do think taught me a lot yeah well there you go and also like with the Invisible String the it doesn't mean that someone's going to be in your life forever it could be that they just in a really intense short period of time they serve you what you need to learn to grow in that moment or it could also just be that these people or these items opportunities they keep finding their

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way back to you over and over again until you have the opportunity and the confidence to figure out what that like Clarity is that you need from that situation actually you know what's Wild I just realized this well not I didn't just realize this but in this moment I'm really like fully able to like put it into words that relationship actually made me address my Trauma from high school for the very first time and also I'll add weren't you cuzz I remember you talking about your beliefs in marriage at that time too was that the relationship love didn't believe in marriage and I feel like that one cracked cracked you a little bit I still I still didn't believe in love and marriage at that point okay okay yeah well he helped in some way he did he he helped me address things that I needed to address yeah yeah so with the Invisible String Theory everyone who

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has touched your life in some way or will be there when you need the most is connected to you by an invisible string and the theory relates back to this Chinese mythology and really it's like

Mythology and taylor swift

an Eastern Asian mythology because it changes a little bit based on geographically where you are in East Asia but primarily in the Chinese mythology there is this red thread of fate and red represents happiness and luck and and this is basically like the backstory is there was this old lunar Matchmaker who tied two people's ankles together and now they were destined to be lovers and then throughout many of the different Asian cultures the backstory changes ever so slightly about like how these people met how they believed in their meeting who brought them together how they're tethered together but a lot of times they are bound by a red thread holding their fingers together so the message stays the same it's like regardless of what you think if you're told at 5 years old

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on the playground that this is your future wife and you're like ah I don't believe that and you throw a rock at her she had 30 years later you meet your future wife and she has a scar from a kid throwing a rock at her on the playground when she was five interesting okay so in the theory the cord May stretch it may tangle but it will never break so you might grow up next door to the person you're meant to be with but then live in Taiwan for 20 years and that is stretching your thread and then you might randomly move to I don't know Toronto and that person also randomly moves to Toronto and it's like you come back together you might cross paths a bunch you might tangle you might meet and maybe it didn't feel like anything at the moment but when it's meant to you will know it's almost like an elastic band in a way it has this stretch that allows you the freedom to move about but eventually you have to like the elasticity returns mhm and you bounce to them and you just snap back and then you

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chest bump and you're like are we in love are we soulmates this feels right so Taylor Swift she does have a song and I feel like I've talked about Taylor Swift a lot for not being a Swifty but she has a song it came out a few years ago in 2020 called invisible string and basically it's talking about I listened to it I think for like the first time this morning and there's the lyrics and isn't it just so pretty to think all along there was some Invisible String tying you to me but the lyrics are it's not quite as dead on as The Invisible String Theory because in her lyrics she'll be like I used to sit at this one park and the Park's grass was green and your favorite sweater that you wore when you were 16 was also green and it's like okay well that's not that's not great that's a stretch that's a stretch and maybe she meant it to be kind like I don't I don't know I didn't dive into the Swifty lore or the meaning

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behind her songs or who it was written about but whoever or whatever is meant to be in your life is always going to find a way back to you when it's needed and the most important thing about the invisible string theory from what I read was when the moment is right when you're meeting the right person whether it be a favorite teacher a best friend a mentor or significant other it will not feel hard it will not feel forced it will not leave you drained or disappointed it won't leave you confused and questioning well is this person supposed to be in my life what if the timing is just off you will feel so intensely in your soul that it is the right place at the right time the right person and if you feel that it's not then it's not meant to be and you just are supposed to let that like friendship that connection pass through you see that's the thing that I struggle with the most in my life is as someone

Trusting instincts and fate

who has dealt with I think this is something like all humans can relate to

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whether or not you've been through trauma the ability to trust your own instincts and decipher your feelings versus your logic versus like gut yes and that is what I struggle with I know cuz I can spiral and overthink something to [ __ ] death yeah I feel like I have experienced that too but at the on the flip side I can be so spontaneous where like if I decide something like there's so many examples of it where it's like if I decide that I'm moving to Massachusetts I'm [ __ ] moving to Massachusetts like I'll think on something for two days and if it feels right that's it and even if it takes me a year to get there like I'm still doing it see I I do that when it's things that don't impact anyone else like dyeing my hair pink just do it did it with within a week but if it impacts or involves someone else I will because I'm AER to a toxic degree well yeah and

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there is I feel like I mean I've told you this before that when I was in LA I was helped so much as a person to like grow and make decisions and kind of like trust my instinct when I moved to Massachusetts because I didn't like who I was when I lived in Los Angeles I didn't like the choices that I was making the people that I was bringing into my life around me and I feel excuse me well yeah I mean I think there's plenty of friends that I I'm specifically talking about like dating life yeah yeah yeah I know and there was just a lot of like I went from having like generally a pretty healthy example of a relationship with my parents and them talking to me growing up about like what a good romantic partner would look like to throwing all of that out the door when I was in California and being like well I'm healthy and I'm Healed and I'll fix you and I like just totally damaged myself so much and would talk myself out of things and be like well I have to be the person

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position but then you have no

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distraction or ability to like evade those feelings and those thoughts and those desires and also just this is a note to anyone who's listening and I think it's so much easier for me to like impart this to others than it is for me to enact or apply into my own life but it is not your job to fix anyone else it is your job to focus on yourself and a good partner should be able to prioritize themselves and you they should be able to do both and they should not be sucking and draining the energy from you no I'm like remembering the time in college that someone walked up to me and said are you okay and I was like yeah I'm fine and they're like you look dead and it was at like a really Peak horrible time in a relationship that I had cuz I was getting drained I was like I looked gray like I was dying vampires are real they just don't always sink their teeth into you that's so true

Active participation in life

which is so tough when it's like talking about the invisible strength where

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you're supposed to trust in the universe and go with the flow and everything like the right thing will happen at the right time but it's like okay you don't just sit and get taken down this like Lazy River of Life though like you still have to make the choices and the choices are presented in front of you and you're supposed to like trust your gut and go with it and then kind of thank the universe for for giving that opportunity to you but at the same time it's like well you you're still the one making the choices which is so hard yeah you have to be an active participant as well yeah unfortunately you can't take over my life Kar and just Sims manage me because that would be ideal I know it instead of Jesus Take the Wheel it's kin take the wheel and I I feel like I do a decent job only because you and I I've known you for so long and you've told me so many times what you want and I think that I I could help you I know and I I would love for you to but that's only

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because I've also been in a situation where I probably needed someone to control me and unfortunately that's not how life works and you need to go through it on your own and you need but you don't need me you know you know what you need to know if you heard that that was me hitting my head with a microphone you want me to control you cuz you don't want to make the choices that you know you need to make and that is the lesson of the episode okay you can turn your chair around and I'll continue oh man okay but part of the Invincible string theory is that you're not supposed to dismiss the things or the people that present themselves and it kind of feels like it fell into your lap too so like when things do feel really easy I think sometimes I'm totally this personality where I can be like well maybe I should ignore that because that's seems like it came too easy to me and I didn't work really hard

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to get that and I didn't kill myself over this and so I don't deserve this and that's not the way you're supposed to think about this like when you're delivered these things it's also tough because it's like this isn't a way or an excuse to say don't work hard at things don't like push yourself to an extreme to get the things that you want in need because like you even said Karen you went through a lot of trials and tribulations and hard times and then there were moments where things came to you more easily but you had to go through all that hard stuff in order for something to come to you more easily yeah it's hard to be like yeah and I was trusting in the universe cuz I wasn't I was so in my head yeah I mean I was trusting that eventually I'd get there but it wasn't like a yeah sit back relax enjoy all these horrible dates and harsh truths about yourself that you hate and are going to work on changing with your little manifestation and spirituality walks every day no that was it wasn't easy and growth isn't it's not and we're

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also only 30 so there's going to be so much more of toughness when we think of our lives and you know the longevity of Our Lives hopefully we have a long life there are going to be a lot more trials and tribulations we go through yeah and people change and grow so much it's like even if I think about like what who we were when we first started the podcast so different so even a couple years ago so different so this is like always something that happens it's not like the universe is just like here's your path here's your job here's your best friend here's your partner life is beautiful in rainbows and butterflies I wish it was Mash I do I do you're going to live in a

Strange coincidences and fate

shack you're going to have 107 kids but you're going to drive a Ferrari and your husband sells hot dogs that's what Mash is giving you and his name is Nick Jonas that hot dog money gets the Ferrari or better yet maybe his name is Drake after all that stuff that just uh surfaced about his hot dog about his hot

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dog hotg people would line up at that hot dog stand honestly that hot dog stand might scare me I didn't look it's intimidating I don't need to know I think people described it enough that I I visualize it you've seen a hot dog yeah you seen get it once you see one you can uh Envision what the rest look like well sometimes sometimes which is not true of vaginas there's so different so many different shapes and sizes well penises also too are all and discoveries within the folds they're all they're all very strange you know what I I love as I've gotten older we've talked about this before but the American Girl doll book I feel like made you think everything about your body was incorrect because it was all about like it didn't talk about the diversity of vaginas or boobs or nipple hair and as I've gotten older that's something something that I've understood but I didn't know that growing up right the first time I

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figured out that it was so different was literally in college in my human sexuality class when they had us look at this sculpture that was this artist took molds of like 50 women's different like laas basically like the outside and just made this like beautiful mural out of it was like a concrete sort of situation but I was like what in the world there's one out of all of these and I'm like oh yeah that's what I thought that they all looked like and then I went to a strip club so I could see in real life is it different it was a scientific experiment and how did we get here because we're talking about the universe and love we got here from hot dogs being sold in Mash that's how we got God but you know what if we believe in Invisible String Theory we needed to have this conversation in order to get back it yes exactly without this how

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would we ever move forward we couldn't CU it the thought would be in our mind and it would be sabotaging us and the next words we would say would be exactly it would be giberish life would be altered so drastically had we not talked about the variety of hot dogs and laas well for all those hot dog and lebia lovers out there here's something good about the invisible string theory I think a lot of it is good but it does say so if you're someone like what we've talked about where like we've had moments in our past and in our present where we start to waffle and say like is this the right decision are we making the right choices this feels impossible because if I make this choice I have these consequences that choice these consequences and it feels really overwhelming MH from what I saw and read about this theory if you are rejecting the paths that you're meant to take and the clear signs that the Universe what the universe considers as clear to you it does not mean that you're missing them the universe will adjust the timing will come back around people who you're

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meant to have connections with will find their way back to each other and when you know you know it'll feel powerful but most of all it will feel very spooky so I wanted to get into some of the moments that people have shared online moments that seem just a little bit too unlikely to be coincidence so people are saying well they must be these invisible strings well we've even read so many listener stories there's one specifically I remember where a woman had a dream of a woman she had never seen before and like she was telling her something and then she met her partner based on like something that happened in that dream and when she was with the partner she saw a photo of his deceased mother and it was the woman from her dream oh gosh see those things give me

Spirit intervention versus fate

chills and then there is such a crossover with it's like okay invisible strength the it's all about like Destiny and these strings connecting you but then I'm also like well what is the role of spirit inter intervention like what if it was his mother or grandmother

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whoever it was trying to bring them together like what is predetermined by the universe's like quote unquote strings and what is just our loved ones and Spirits trying to kind of like play matchmaker a little bit but can't both exist at the same time where it's like this string exists and our relatives on the other side are like you keep missing the signs like you're saying that sometimes you miss the signs and the universe brings them back and the loved ones is like you know what I'm not going to wait I'm just going to give a little bit of a tap tap on the booty shove you in the right direction yeah this is making me think of do you remember the episode in the good place where they're trying desperately to have cheaty and Chris and Bell's character meet and fall in love I think in the real world yeah but they can't they're constantly like just just not working bumping into each other but ignoring each other immediately there's no like whoa I'm flooded with emotion and feeling like we're destined to be together right oh I loved that show that was such a good show me too okay so here are some

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examples that I saw people share online about themselves so there's this couple Khloe and Marcus they are now married they're a bumble success story so an online dating success story and while the two met on the dating app and then got married two years later they just did not realize at the time how connected their lives were until it started to like unfold in conversations over time and exposed how many times their paths had crossed before wow for example both Chloe and Marcus separately took vacations to Los Angeles when they were on vacation in Los Angeles they bought tickets and attended the same magic show and you're like okay well there's a bunch of shows you know like maybe people have this they had both had an interest in going and seeing a magic show sure after the magic show they walked the strip all right people do that but then they stopped in front of the same Fountain which I'm going to assume is the bagio Fountain and then they took pictures of themselves so not only did these two strangers have the

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exact same vacation itinerary but what's extra spooky is they were literally on vacation at the exact same time were sitting in the exact same magic show walked the strip as strangers at the exact same time and then both on opposite sides of this Fountain had someone take a picture of them at the same time did they see each other in the photos no I think it was only after when they had like looked back at photos and we talking about their trip so they realized exactly when it happened but this was not the first time that they had a close encounter a Miss meet cute Marcus also lived on the same road as Khloe's best friend growing up and her brother took karate at the same Studio where Marcus talk CU I think there was like a six year age difference or something like that okay they also attended many of the same political protests and so for decades these two they were like just circling each other's lives coming so close together but never actually meeting and then when it was finally time for them to meet they did through a dating app

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online and then they fell in love that is so cool I know isn't it and the timing was perfect and Chloe had said that there basically she was like the timing could not have been more perfect because if they had met at any of the other opportunities that they had these like meet cutes it wouldn't have worked out because there were other factors

Lessons and compassion

that would have prevented them from feeling this connection to each other or like exploring a relationship because they' both been in different relationships in the past also there was an age difference so like for example when Khloe's best friend's brother was taking karate lessons where Marcus taught like Marcus was an adult Chloe was like 15 that would have never happened so which is good that it didn't happen then we're glad yes and Chloe had said quote when we did meet we were both in the right place in our lives and we done the work required to be in a good State of Mind to be in a successful relationship so whether that's fate or

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it's a happy coincidence I'm very into it so I do like that idea too where it's like two people can be in such different places in their lives like I mean let's think of Khloe as a 15-year-old and him as like a 22y old like their emotional intelligence their life experience everything's going to be so different and until they kind of like match that sort of like same experience and vibration and desire they're not brought together because it would would work until they both are at complimentary levels which is also then like another offshoot of the invisible shring Theory where it's like each person that you meet is helping you deal with and in experience life so you can learn XYZ lesson so that when you meet the right person you are in a place where you can nurture and experience that relationship in the way that you're meant to totally totally which it does like it's so hard to get through researching this and also

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just like talking about it because it just there's so much reflection I think involved in this to where you start to think about like all the moments and all the people that helped you in your life and like changed your perspective on things even the bad things you know yeah which is very hard to sometimes like come to terms with but there are a lot of things that I've experienced in my life that I wish didn't happen and I would prefer no one ever experience but it has also formed who I am as a person and ultimately despite like all my ups and downs I do love myself and I love who I am and I don't think I would be me without all of my experiences right and it's also hard thinking back to the bad things that have happened too because like certain relationships or certain people you can feel such anger and resentment towards people and some people rightly deserve it but at other times like I've thought about myself and how I've represented myself to other people and I'm like man people probably

Childhood and nicknames

have thought that I was like this evil

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witch in the past and it's like you never know what sort of death of self mov someone else is going through and and why they're behaving a certain way and it is yeah it's this Theory does promote a lot of compassion and forgiveness I agree and I think that's the most important thing in life is empathy you never know what other people are going through totally another example if we're going to continue with some of the romantic Invisible String examples is this girl named Savannah she shared online that when she was 8 years old she randomly started calling herself Savannah Park which that was not her last name but she just had to call herself Savannah Park and years later she meets her boyfriend who she's been with for a long time now and his last name is Park and three years into their relationship they figured out that he was playing in a would play these uh Little League football games that

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Savannah's family would attend she must have had like a brother or someone who also played these games but she did not call herself Savannah park because she saw him and was like wow the boy on the other team is so cute she was just like simply there and picking up on some energy in the air and gave herself the nickname Savannah Park did you ever give yourself a nickname that has like come back to your life no no I don't think so have you no well Charlie is the name that like I like I love that name for a girl so much and when I write characters not all of them of course cuz I can't name everyone the same character but like when I named all my all my fish and hermit crabs Alexa Vega everyone gets to be Alexa Vega but it hasn't come back in my life necessarily I mean my brother's girlfriend is Charlotte but I don't think she's ever been called Charlie maybe you'll have a daughter and you'll name her Charlie maybe okay you saying that I guess there is an example and it was the name Athena like growing up I always said I was going to name my child atha and then when I was 16 and I'd been

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saying that for like years and years and my parents were like you're not Greek like you're name your child Athena but then when I was 16 I went to Santa Cruz California to a mystical metaphysical shop that no longer exists and had a past life and tarot card reading and the woman kept her eyes closed the entire time I told you about this and me and my friend Olivia had gone together and it was just like so spoton for both of us and she had said towards the end of the reading that I had a spirit guide named Athena and I was like that is so weird cuz that's out of all the names out of all the names yes wild also just to clarify I now that I've had a moment to think about it I definitely will not name my child Charlie because Charlie is my drunk alter ego and I don't think I could impart that yeah you have onto a child yeah you you had too many too many memories associated with that name that when you look at the Purity and loveliness of a of a wee baby

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you're like a we laugh man you're better off never experiencing some of these things yeah better off never meeting Charlie to be honest mhm actually Charlie's fun Charlie's a great time je Charlie climbs trees and lights things on fire that's June oh [ __ ] I can't keep track of them Sabrina there's many versions of me oh that's June okay yeah June is June wears only black clothing June's a Halloween character if you haven't heard of June go back to the early days of the podcast it's it's something that was conjured up within me or something that possessed me I think it was our junior year of college yeah I don't yeah I don't remember it's all a blur and honestly I don't remember a few years of college cuz I had a drinking problem it's true like well I laughed because I was uncomfortable because I didn't know how to address it yes I also agreed and think that I had a similar problem so I guess we all were no one

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could help each other with their drinking problems or like intervene because we all had them and it wasn't like a normal oh funny everyone's getting drunk at a college party like it was bad no I don't think the way that we drink most people in society drink in college is healthy at all no I mean it still affects me today this is why I don't really drink anymore cuz I yeah I

Intense encounters

think that's a great part of your journey and I'm really proud of you for acknowledging that Kar thanks I'm only allowed one sip of alcohol over like six months okay one of my favorite stories that was shared online was just one line it was like in the comment section of another video and this woman named Claudia said quote my husband and I both remember being at a pedestrian Crossing one day and just staring at each other for a good 10 seconds a few years before we met so it's like they both knew the there was something with the other person but not right now I've heard a

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lot of stories like that where people work in the same building and like see each other in the elevator and like make such intense eye contact and mhm when they finally do communicate or acknowledge one another's existence they both will say like the first time I saw you in the elevator I like had this insane intense connection to you and I just like didn't know what to do with it which just so beautiful that people experience that without saying anything like you can truly connect to someone's Soul by looking at their eyes you just know yeah it's kind of like with friends or people too like there's certain people where you're just like it's so easy and it feels easy immediately and it does feel like you've known each other for a long time yeah so a couple more examples in the Romantic field and then we'll move on but I saw one person had said that she carried around a $2 bill in her pocket for good luck and when she met her partner he also had been carrying around a $2 bill for good luck and they realized that each of their $2 bills had the other person's initial on

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it and then even spookier there was another example of someone who carried around this like I think it was just like a $1 bill or something like that in his wallet but like the corner of it had a tear like it had been torn and then when he met his girlfriend in the future she also had the the missing piece she just like randomly picked up like a torn piece of a doll bill off of the ground and for some reason kept it that's so weird to me isn't it I could CH thinking about it but and then also like these are such like clear examples but to anyone who's out there and listening and it's like well I didn't have this with my partner you don't need to have all of these little connections if these are like extreme examples that help back up this Theory but you don't need to have the other half of their dollar bill or you know in order for you to be each other's person

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absolutely and I think things can come like you can discover things maybe you don't know that you had a moment like this for 40 years either right you know like things can unfold things can show themselves and The Invisible String Theory doesn't mean that every single person who's important to you in your life has to be connected to you by a string it's just there are certain people who are predestined to come into your life to help you with certain things yeah and I'm like fully woo woo on this conversation and I like I really do believe in the power of people who come into your life but there is this weird psychological aspect of this where is this The Human Condition where we so desperately need there to be purpose that we make these connections and that's not to say that they don't exist but is this just the way that we need to

Weird universe connections

process exper and like experience in order to make sense of them or when something happens that just seems so

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statistically low we have to assign some sort of spiritual I guess like meaning to them because it just feels too weird to have experienced otherwise and then it's also really hard and and this will be the LA the only like Downer of a thing that I say but kind of similar to like some of the experiences I went through which I would never wish upon anyone when really really horrendous things happen to anyone in the world like a loss of a loved one like I'm thinking specifically like death and those types of tragedies it does make you question like well why would that happen to me and so that is hard to sometimes process but that's the only sad thing I will say and we can go return to love because that's much more pleasant but I mean maybe that person that you loved so much in your life that did pass like they were in your life so that you could have that connection and that feeling with them prior I know death is a horrible yeah subject and yet

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it's one that Finds Its way into every episode that we have because because ghost stories death you have no ghosts you have no ghosts all right well let's move on to some examples that have nothing to do with romance and everything to do with just weird connections in the universe okay a man named yaran he had this little denim jacket as a baby he grew up in Tennessee and I think he had just one brother that was older but one of the outfits that his mom had purchased for him as a baby was this little denim jacket and she wrote on the tag she wrote yaran you know on the little like Levi tag or whatever it was you know to identify if they lost it or if they brought it somewhere like that's Yan's jacket yeah and he was really small when he was wearing this too so it was probably I would assume he only fit in that thing for like Maximum 6 months at some point as is what happens to a lot of people's childhood belongings the jacket gets donated 24

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years later he is in Wasilla Alaska and his wife is thrifting baby clothes so he wore this jacket when he was a baby in Tennessee they're now in Alaska she's looking for items for their first son and she finds this little denim jacket and inside is a very faded yaran written on the tag and she freaks out and she's so excited to show him and when she showed him the two realized like yes this is Yan's jacket which is so weird already so weird but what's weirder is yarian found a photo of him wearing the jacket like sitting next to his brother and in this photo he's just a wee babyy wearing the denim jacket and he has this little knit cap on and literally a few days before his wife found this jacket at the thrift store in Alaska his mom so her mother-in-law in anticipation of their first baby gave her this very same knit cap as a gift that he was wearing

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in this photo so the entire outfit was collected within a couple days which the jacket itself is weird enough but then the knit cap is even weirder especially with how fashion evolves and changes and yes it like gets recycled absolutely but like it's too specific it's too specific and it's so weird it's like the whole outfit found its way back to him to welcome his first son which also makes me think like you know we keep talking about the universe and like oh the the paths and the stars and the strings and but who bought this outfit was it his mom or was this like a grandmother or something who's since passed and is like well I want my that outfit that I got Yari and I want to give it to his son like what is the what's the line between it truly being like The Invisible String Theory and spirit intervention right but how different or yeah exactly you know what this reminds me and I was just trying to look

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for the email and I couldn't find it but they came on to our campfire stories and told us the story and I'm so blanking on their name and I'm really really sorry but one of our listeners had had a transplant and was able to have get information from the about the donor from the family all this stuff and was like thrifting and found a jacket with their name of the name of the donor I'm

A guardian angel story

trying to remember the name too was it like Charlie or something like now I'm thinking it's Charlie I thought it was like Brie or something but I can't I couldn't find it I just searched transplant in our inbox was it a lung transplant was it cystic fibrosis my memory is not going to help us get there I don't think oh was it Taber it was tab it was Taber and I think we read their story if not then we should read it ASAP should I read it right now sure okay this is from our listener Taber and it's called my guardian angel Taber shared this with us on a campfire stories which

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I believe is one of the episodes that's on like our feed I just don't know which one I wanted to tell you about my happy encounter with my guardian angel Britney okay so Bri Britney so little background on me I am a 22-year-old double lung transplant patient good job Karen we both had bits and pieces we got the email because our memories got got small sections of that email see we share the brain cell I received my transplant on February 21st 2019 I was born with a lung disease called cystic fibrosis which attacks multiple parts of your body but primarily fills your lungs with a thick mucus that makes it hard to breathe long story short my lung function got down to 11% which necessitated a transplant around October or November is when I started communicating with my donor family and started learning about my donor her name was Britney she was a mom of two great boys a wonderful wife and a daughter since learning about her she's constantly on my mind and I believe she's constantly showing herself to me

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one particular instance that is the most incredible is when I was at a thrift store shopping around as one does in any thrift store and I didn't find anything good I slowly started to make my way to the front when I got a feeling that I had to go look at the jacket rack I'm from North Carolina and a hoodie or jacket is always good to have on hand as I'm looking through the clothes I see a varsity jacket peeking out it was a black and yellow color combination and thought I should just look at it when I grabbed it I noticed the name on it Britney in the exact spelling as she spelled her name I've had some Supernatural experiences happened to me before but this felt the most surreal I grabbed it took it to the counter where I explained to the cashier its importance and he was shocked I immediately wore at home which when getting things from a thrift shop isn't always the best idea but I've been in love with it ever since I sent a picture of me wearing it to my donor dad that's what I called Britney's dad and he loved it I'm I'm in North Carolina and they're from Grafton West Virginia but I'm so excited to meet them I just started your

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podcast from the beginning and I love it I hope to hear this on an episode once I catch up thanks taper I mean this is just so incredible it's so beautiful and it also feels like not only did Taber get another chance to live life a little more comfortably with the gift of her lungs but it's it's almost like she's she's acknowledging that she is happy that it went to him too by like sign and it sounds like this isn't the only time that Britney also like makes herself known to tab I just love that now tab has a jacket so that on the outside Taber can wear something that is also of Britney because on the inside Taber it is has Britney yes and it does make me wonder because again like it does happen to people where they get tissue or you know other organs or something transplanted and there's different emotions and feelings or like moments of recognition of strangers that doesn't make sense for them in their

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lives but would for the person who donated yeah to them yeah beautiful man all right a few more a few more examples we have an example shared from a woman named Amy she purchased a house in 2022 and we all know how house hunting can be it can be very tough very stressful so she found this house was super proud of it super excited felt right later on she's looking through old family photos and she finds a photo of her grandfather as a baby like he's like probably 3 years old and he is standing on the lawn in front of this house no

Pets and destiny

yes that's wild so crazy and then the last example I'll give you is one that I picked out specifically for you Sabrina because of course it pertains to our pets the invisible Str like where is this going cats that's where it's going a man named Ace he spoke about how his Invisible

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String connection was to his cat whose name is Blitz Ace said that out of the blue he got this really strong urge to go visit his ched home which he grew up in this apartment and I don't think he'd been back to that complex in a really long time and he just it wasn't like he was reminiscing on anything and was like oh maybe I should go see it was just out of the blue a sudden like you should go see the apartment where you grew up and so he didn't really know why he needed to go but he was like all right I guess I'll respond to this overwhelming draw and drive over there so he went and when he got there he kind of like walked around walked out behind the apartment and he said he was just so overwhelmed with the memories and he just felt this like deep connection to his past and it was like flooding all of his senses all at once and he sits in it for a moment takes it all in and then he leaves 2 weeks later he gets another similar feeling he'd already been thinking like oh you know maybe it's time that I go to

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the animal shelter and consider adopting an animal but there's this feeling this urge that hits him and this urge is you need to go to the animal shelter now like there's no time better than the present to go get a cat and so he goes to the shelter and he's talking to the woman who's running the shelter that day and he's like yeah I think I'm interested in in a cat and she's talking about some of the cats and she's like oh but let me tell you about the most recent cat we just brought in they're chatting about him and Ace realizes that this cat was found and taken in behind his old apartment and this cat was found like literally taken from the exact spot where Ace used to play and where he'd been flooded with all of these memories just two weeks before and that's how the universe brought Ace and Blitz together which makes me wonder was the cat was there almost a moment where they connected in the backyard of that place or yeah I don't know so interesting but the fact that also cuz I feel like it's

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rare when you're adopting a pet for them to know like the exact specifics of where they were found in their whole story I mean especially with Strays you know right but the fact that they were able to relay this information so specifically about this cat I mean that's I think that's beautiful I know it is and it's almost like yeah was the cat picking up on all of these like did the cat choose Ace or was the the universe just trying to be like okay well I know if you yeah come here and see a cat you're not just going to pick it up so that's not how I bring you together but I have to give you a very clear sign that Blitz is supposed to be in your life yeah how do you get more clear than that you can't and it's like that's the thing with the Invisible String Theory it's so many of these things people are like could this just be a wild coincidence cuz it just feels too coincidental to happen otherwise or is it just is it

Coincidence or destiny

just a crazy coincidence I don't know I guess we'll never really know until we are on the

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other side and we accept our roles as head of Council on the board of questions and answers question the one thing we could never do in our life suddenly we're being assigned as the head of in our after life yeah the IR no and and our only job is to absorb all the answ we've searched for so long yeah okay so you said that Invisible String Theory you do feel like there was a bit of that that happened with the freshman year person do you think there's been anything else I feel that with a lot of people in my life like if not everyone and I I do fully believe that people are brought into your life for specific reasons and you meet them at certain times to teach you certain lessons and I do think there there is a bit of danger in that too where it's like and again it's like trusting your instinct in your gut it's like you might meet someone but

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it might be a Temptation an lure like a luring thing that actually isn't part of your Invisible String Theory and it's not supposed to be part of your life but feelings and logic get mixed up yeah it does well that's why I think like one of the things with the invisible strength theory is that it keeps saying like it's supposed to feel easy there's not supposed to be any resistance it's supposed to be but that that only really pertains to like a romantic partner who's good for you because then there's also people who come into your life to help challenge you to grow it right it's so hard it is hard I was thinking about it though when I was doing this research and I feel like I have maybe two-ish examples but it's hard because it's like proximity plays a part of it but my eighth grade boyfriend suar shout out suar he and I dated for like four months and honestly I think I felt SAR was like one of my most serious relationships he

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was he he was so nice his family was so great everything was awesome and then we uh broke up when his really good friend and my friend because of dating SAR Sam had passed away we in in eighth grade it was terribly difficult and emotional but yeah we had discovered once we started dating and also we met each other snowboarding and we didn't go to the same school weren't like in the same school district and we didn't have any mutual friends we just like randomly met on the mountain and then we realized that when we were like seven we had been on the same swim team and there were photos of us in our like little swim caps so I had that and then I guess I was thinking about it with Brian cuz Brian and I have discussed that there were there were like a lot of moments where it was like weird that we we think we probably saw each other out in the world before I'm sure and like a good example of it is that we both lived in the same town outside of Boston like when I first

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moved to Boston I didn't actually move to Boston I moved near Boston because it was more affordable and I would dog walk I would pick up this dog that lived right behind Brian where Brian was renting and so I would walk by Brian's place all the time I probably saw him but if we had ever met then that was not the time to ever meet cuz he was in a very serious relationship at the time and I was working on myself right so and there were like there's some other examples with that too but it's kind of like one of those things where it's like does proximity play a role in this because you know you know suar and I we weren't in the same school district but we were our houses were a 30- minute drive apart you know Brian and I were in the same town and ended up living in the same city right is it just the space and the chances of running into someone or is it something more well also I think I mean again I have not spent a ton of time studying or researching invisible strength the but at least my comprehension of it is that it doesn't necessarily mean you've crossed paths in

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the past it just means that you will and are meant to meet that person and have some type of connection not necessarily from the past but it could be current and that like tot the experiences you've gone through in life have brought you together so that you can learn something from one another or even just like whether it's lifelong or temporary that you can impart something about what you've experienced in life to that person yeah which like again this is why it does feel kind of woooo cuz it's like trust in the universe and everyone who's meant to be in your life will be but then it it's so convoluted because it's like well how do you pick apart these sort of things when they're not so blatantly obvious like right you know Ace and his cat Blitz like stuff like that right and I also ask cuz I spent a lot of time asking my Spirit guides my God audience for signs to like acknowledge if I'm going in the right

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direction and they don't always give it to me or maybe I'm not seeing it and maybe I'm not ready to see it I don't know but it is really hard and then this conversation becomes really cyclical because it's like well is it meant to be or is this the way that I'm processing in my experience as a human because it's really hard otherwise I don't know I

Physics and consciousness

guess if we think about the invisible string theory the thing that can make making these choices a little bit less scary is that it does say if it's meant to be it will come back to you even if you skip it even if you step on it even if you try to burn it to the ground it will find its way back to you if it's meant to be if it's meant to be it does take a little bit of that like Risk in decision making away if you believe it right like you can make a decision now and you could change your mind or the universe will put it back in your in your path in order for you to make a different decision the next time and the are things that I'm trying to get to understanding and you will soon but the

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Invisible String Theory although it's being talked about more recently in social media and it's like you know a Taylor Swift lyric it has been around for a while and it kind of has cloaked itself within other names so in science it can be referred to as Cosmic String Theory which is a concept in theoretical physics that proposes one-dimensional microscopic strings that Branch out through the entire universe and they were all formed at the time of the big bang and if we relate it to two people it's basically like these two strings influence each other their vibrations are connected they transcend physical space and manifest in various ways between those two people like it almost makes me think of twins like when people are twins because it talks a lot about like people having the same dream people having synchronous thoughts or just like sudden urges and feelings to do the exact same thing at the exact same time it's like very inexplicable but it aligns with the other person that's connected to them very perfectly which is an example that we see a lot in identical twins it is very much like the

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universal Consciousness too if you believe in that in that theory it's like we are all connected therefore yes that is why we have empathy in those feelings is because we truly are made of one another we're all just Stardust we are Stardust you know what you basically just proved is that we just did an entire episode about physics PHS and we're scientists theoretical physics theoretical we talked about everything but nothing at the same time it's theoretical it's theoretical we're great at theoretical physics we're great at talking and taking up space taking up air time this also relates to the Law of Attraction which makes me think of remember Oprah say your book The Secret and everyone was like so obsessed with the secret and it was all about like manifesting and Law of Attraction and all of that so basically it's kind of the same thing where there's a lot of crossover within the visible string theory and the Law of

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Attraction this like vibrational attraction where your thoughts your emotions your energetic state will match with someone who's like-minded romantically or as a friend a mentor acquaintance a pet in the time in your life when they're most meant to be there and help you through a very specific period of growth basically it's

Therapeutic benefits and flow

manifesting sure and then pertaining to mental health and well-being the idea of the invisible string theory has proved to be beneficial in emotional healing and self-work it's something that is brought up in the field of psychology because it can be really helpful to people it can help us look at our relationships and our future with a new lens it can Empower us to navigate challenges with a renewed strength and it can also help us this is a note for me relax a little bit and go with the flow trust your gut trust that the right paths are set out in front of you and you will find them no matter how long it takes you to find them and these are

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paths to happiness and support you will feel that you can have compassion for others you can understand a bit more how intricate relationships in The Human Experience can be when kind of thinking about the invisible string theory and maybe you can spend some time meditating and manifesting that something that is encouraged by a lot of therapist out there you can Envision what your life is like what your partner or your future friends are like and then try to enjoy the journey as much as you can even though it will be hard to get there it's a blessing in the curse of human life it is but to wrap up this different topic from what we normally talk about the invisible string theory The Invisible String Theory can be quite beautiful and at times very mystical and spooky but just now we all do have connections out there whether we believe in The Invisible String Theory or not and whether we've met those connections yet yet or not and you are important to those people even if you don't know them

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yet and they will be important to you you have a purpose you belong here and you get to experience the Invisible String Theory whether you've realized it or not because your connections they're waiting for you and you'll feel it just so you all know you're all caught up in our strings you're tied up and you can't get out I'm going to throw you in this cage and stick you in there forever you have no choice you are stuck in our webs it I think the Paranormal world we keep talking about it as like a like our community as a triangle like a pyramid scheme I do feel like it is kind of a web we're all just kind of stuck in it we're just here we're just here yeah we're all just here and it's interesting and we're learning things I mean I think our perspectives on things are going to be so different at like I think we've already changed so much in terms of our perspective on the Paranormal we 100% have yeah and I mean even about like we are a paranormal podcast we are not a true crime podcast but I do think sometimes about like how different the

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way we spoke about true crime is to now yeah 100% you know like when podcasting first started when like all the documentaries with victims and victim blaming and you know like yeah there's a lot of stuff we evolved yeah we did it was kind of horrifying to look back but it was like that was our entertainment and now I can't even imagine saying some of those things that were said and done and that's why that's why I love Sarah turny so much from voices for justice because she does a lot of work for she's great um helping people who are families of victims tell their stories and even um Tiffany Reese from something was wrong again giving giving the voice to the people who've experienced it themselves yeah I agree I think that's a hard thing with True Crime sometimes is that the victims can't speak for themselves yeah not always so no I do love that there has been a shift in that narrative but we're all growing we're all learning and let's just take a

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breath make our shoulders fall a little bit and just try to enjoy today I just

Listener story and conclusion

get stuck in the web okay I have a listener story from our listener Macy and it is called Haunted by my soulmate the woman of my literal dreams I like this already ghostesses this is a little bit of a combo of like soulmate but also sexy okay we're getting sexy for this episode well a lot of this was it's the Invisible String it was all meant to be it all goes back to to ghost mut In fairness a lot of this episode did talk about romantic partners because that's what people kind of like default to when they're talking about Invisible String Theory okay ghostesses you asked to hear sexy ghost stories and I am going to deliver but first I need to give a bit of backstory and also disclaimer this story is 18 and up and begin after I am an adult as well so I grew up a lesbian in the '90s and 2000s in Texas

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it was confusing and a traumatic time but I finally figured it out and came to terms with it as a senior in high school there was a girl in my government class that I kind of dated but I would call it more friends exploring [ __ ] than a true relationship even if it was very gal Pal's Vibes after she moved away during winter break I met Lauren though it was less of a meeting and more of her coming to me besides all the haunting I experienced growing up I also have unusual dreaming habits I'll remember previous dreams in a dream that I have no memory of when awake and I've been confused when I wake up sleeping on multiple occasions and my dreams can be so realistic that I can feel small details like bumps on a basketball or individual Blades of grass wow so Lauren before I even met her showed up first in a dream where I was at an amusement park I don't remember the exact details of first seeing her but we spent the rest of the dream together as the weeks continued Lauren showed up from time to time in my dreams and it wasn't long

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before I really wanted her to show up more and more I wanted to see her she told me about herself and her life and I could give you her whole story but a few months into these dreams which was already flirty at the time she came into my room and we started making out which led to us taking off our clothes and holy [ __ ] did she know what she was doing remember what I said about feeling the fine details well I felt everything and I orgasmed so hard that I literally woke up in the astral plane that is but not in the astral planee this is okay because when Macy woke up I was in the same position I had been in in my dream and my clothes were no longer on my body I freaked out was she some kind of succubus coming to steal my my soul what the hell was that a few days later I driving home from school and I hear a voice and it's Lauren's voice I recognize it from my dreams say

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I'm sorry from the passenger seat I turned and there was no one there but somehow I knew Lauren was sitting there I told her I forgive her and we went back to the way things were except we start spending time outside of the dream world and I feel her her presence and her soul and her spirit around me Lauren and I agreed and we disagreed we had good times and bad ones like any relationship she had her own opinions on my friends family teachers professors movies shows literally anything and everything Lauren also appeared to have her own life she didn't follow me to places like class or work and her presence would be notably absent but when I would get to my own apartment she would leave and come back independently according to her schedule which was somewhat regular like any living persons what in the world this is blowing my mind back to the fun stuff freshman year of college is when we started having sex when I was conscious as well I would

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feel her there and if you were being a bit of a Voyer it would look like I'm hovering a little off my bed pleasuring nothing or pleasuring myself with the power of my mind this is a handsfree like Macy is not touching themselves this is yeah Lauren even taught me several moves that others have appreciated in my life Wow our relationship lasted until I was a junior college and I met my first girlfriend who I'll call Haley Haley and I started as friends and I never told her about Lauren and Lauren never mentioned Haley not long after Haley and I started dating Lauren came to tell me goodbye a few weeks after Haley and I broke up Lauren returned in our Dynamic continued which has basically been the cycle since Lauren first came to me I don't know who or what this being is but even times when I'm intentionally single to work on myself she's there as a friendly support for anything I could ever need whenever I've asked her she dismisses the question but she's never said anything creepy like meeting on the other side or

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she's dead or a demon Etc there is a Tik Tok series called Hell's Bells and one of the relationships is between a succubus angel and a soul that will be reincarnated ruggy so could that be the same situation Lauren and I are in but she's not allowed to tell me about my past did I unintentionally make a TOA I don't know what do you think see you on the other side Macy this is so fascinating ating because I feel like when we've heard let's default back to that one story that was super popular in the UK and the woman went on the news and like Good Morning America and like different different places like that to talk about how she and her fiance had broken up because she started a relationship with this with the spirit kind of like Incubus like Spirit where it did seem very sexual and intimate but she was not talking about like The rhythms of daily life and and the stuff that Macy and Lauren are experiencing together like actually communicating And

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discussing and sharing opinions and like an actual relationship that is so different right especially because Lauren comes and goes it's not like Lauren's only there for Macy Lauren leaves to attend to whatever they're experiencing which this makes me think like is Lauren alive in a different timeline or a different dimension and Lauren is experiencing Macy the way that Macy's experiencing Lauren I did have that thought too where Macy's the one that kind of just comes and goes and it's confusing but then it's also strange because Lauren does feel like she has more of the power in when she appears right where it's like Macy gets in a relationship and Lauren leaves but then Lauren comes back and it's like well how would Lauren have that ability in another lifetime in another dimension if Macy is the one haunting Lauren Lauren is for sure on the board of questions and answers she Lauren knows what's

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up but it does feel like there's very clearly a soulmate connection or like a universal greater connection between Lauren and Macy mhm but I don't know what the answer is but it sounds very pleasurable and enjoyable like it seems like a good situation I feel like I've never heard something like this where it's just like a full-fledged this does feel like that story I wrote my sophomore year of high school about that romance between that lady and her the dead guy right I bet Lauren and Macy were soulmates or like have been together in previous lives and will be again yeah cuz it does feel like there's so much like tenderness and friendship yeah too I agree dang Guardian but make it [Laughter] sexy it's like me being like godmother but make it witchy yeah get a little bit of to stir the pot get two things in one I feel like this is an incredible experience I don't know how to describe it or like what it could be I have no

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answers but I'm very happy for Macy that Macy gets to experience it especially because it does feel like if there ever came a time when Macy was like not for me no longer I don't like this then it would stop right especially cuz Lauren respects Macy's boundaries like when Macy's in a relationship Lauren's very much like I will let you experience this this is for you and I will give you the space to have this powerful stuff it would be frustrating though for to have that healthy of a relationship in the pron not be real or like not be alive physically right yeah you can't introduce them to your friends yeah that would be frustrating I mean you can introduce like they can meet your friends but your friends can't meet them right right that would be tough but at least you get to experience Lauren Macy thank you for sharing that with us and if any of you have stories about your soulmates or anything par normal or just want to enjoy theoretical physics with us and send us your theory on The

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