The Alien King Talks Aliens & Ghosts | Haunted With Payne Lindsey

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very spooky hi everyone Hi everyone you know how much we love aliens yes we love them Sabrina wants to marry one honestly I don't want to marry one I want to be taken away with them into space and live my best life frolicking nude with the alien species yeah the universe yeah and here's the thing we're actively making moves to learn how to get you to that point and one of the moves we've made was bringing on pain Lindsay to talk with us

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about all things aliens because if you haven't already listened which I'm sure a lot of people have because we've talked about it so many times throughout our recent podcast episodes hi strange is a new podcast the pain has produced and he is the host and he went around and interviewed and researched all of these incredible UFO and alien stories and actually spoke with people who were abducted spoke with different Personnel who were on site and just tried to kind of get to the bottom of like what the heck is happening in the world and he started out with a little bit of a skeptical approach I mean you will hear a lot more about his experience in the following 50-ish minutes or so but uh it is fascinating to see how pains take on all of this did change during the process of putting High strange together and also since coming on to our show we just you know threw upon the conspiracy

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hats onto his head I know he started to loosen up a little bit I think we're about to put the tin foil on and nighttime is King dub him alien conspiracies take a listen enjoy and let us know if you have any tips to get Sabrina abducted and you can listen to high strange wherever you listen to podcasts we love you pain hi

Becoming an expert

how the how the heck are you and have you had any potential abductions um I've not been abducted yet sorry I'm disappointed as well okay I was gonna ask how you felt about it you know I'm hoping and praying for it every day me too they just aren't listening to me so I don't know what to do we want it we want it too much yeah exactly we're trying too hard you're desperate yeah yeah they don't want you to be desperate they want you to be scared no yeah yeah I'm too ready do you feel like you're an expert now on Aliens

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or do you have a lot of questions still I have a lot of questions still I'm not an expert at all I don't think on Aliens but I know enough of like the basic facts I think that are you know strong points that make me feel a little bit more informed you know if I'm having like a conversation at a bar about UFOs or something but uh that's about it which if you went to a bar with us you absolutely would yeah exactly that's the stuff that comes up right yeah yeah yeah it is that or ghosts yeah the weird stuff is like you know then you become an expert in that moment but yes that's about it can you talk your ear off about it or you make a podcast about it yeah exactly right you've been working you've

Researching High Strange

been working on high strange for over a year right yeah it was a a pretty long Endeavor just like all the people that I talked to and reached out to like kind of like all over the country and having to

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you know I flew out and met most of these people in person and so that was kind of like a time-consuming thing kind of piecing all these little things together to make a like a documentary story um yeah it was like at least a year of my life like pretty much non-stop so did you have you always believed in Aliens what inspired hi strange like what got you into it I didn't always like believe outright I just thought it was a fun thing to believe you know it was like uh you know I want to believe kind of thing right um I just was a fan of sci-fi genre uh you know Steven Spielberg stuff as a kid um you know I just liked the idea of you know it'd be so cool if there was something else out there and kind of just like a fun thing to think about and so it kind of started From just that

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general idea of I've always been kind of into this topic and you know what if I took a similar like analytical approach like I would take in a True Crime Story to this subject what will I find or how would that even go and so that was really what I set out to do and you found a lot found a lot actually I found more than I thought I was gonna find you know and I was I guess I was naive but I thought that yeah there was so much I didn't know that was you know really big stuff and that was compelling to me and I it's it's since like shaped my perception of it all a little bit going into this project did you have anyone in your life who'd ever encountered a UFO or alien or heard any first-hand stories or was this the first time you were actually speaking with people I've heard stories

UFO and Bigfoot stories

before um and even just like you know my uncle had told me a story from a long time ago and he's like a

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straight shooter no [ __ ] kind of guy and he had this story of seeing this UFO in the middle of the night on this desolate Road in California driving to work on like one of the oil rigs he was working on and the way he described it it was you know it made no noise and it was hovering there and it was big and it was so bright then it just took off out of sight um yeah so I've heard like other people tell me stuff like that and you know he saw it and he seemed to be like for certain it was not from Earth or something that we're not used to seeing right um it was um like kind of near in between San Francisco and La there's like a little town somewhere in there that he that's like on the coast okay let me know because that's a lot of places it's a seven hour drive you gotta figure

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it out I feel like I'm I I don't know that this is necessarily the way that I'm going to get abducted but anytime I hear a story I'm like okay I'm gonna go to that place and my chances maybe are increased but probably not yeah or they're like okay cool we hit that spot we're never going there again yeah we're never coming back keep you on your toes to participating any five events I think there's an Air Force Base out there is it like the Edwards Air Force Base or something like that that is in that General facility on the California coast and they have a ton of UFO activity and I believe I think the reason it got on my radar was because I believe they thought they saw some Bigfoots walking through one of the tunnels underneath the base big feet bigfoots I don't know yeah so I was like well I gotta go there do you guys believe in business sounds like we all everything

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no Corrine would love to you I know so do you think there's like hiding out like there's like really good at hiding or was there like one left he's the Bigfoot he's like where's Walden I don't really know there are theories that they are an interdimensional being so like they are able to jump around like Looper I guess that made more sense than just hiding really well behind a tree right right because they're so huge right hey but even Jane Goodall did an interview where she was talking about Bigfoot and she thinks that some sort of primitive version of humans that just haven't quite evolved and there's not a ton of them and so we just don't encounter them all that frequently but I don't know pain if you want to do a big foot project but I know you know that that one's a hard one for me to like go to just because it's like okay like it is

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you know at least there's better footage of UFOs yes yeah that's true and there's a ton of footage of UFOs who was the first

Area 51 mysteries

person that you interviewed for this project actually the very first person was Travis Walton which was like you know one of the craziest stories I think in the show and so that was like my intro to doing a podcast on UFOs I was like holy [ __ ] oh my God if this is like yeah is this the tip of the iceberg or is this like the Pinnacle of you know crazy stories I'm going to hear um but that having like met him and talked to him in person I that kind of changed the way I thought about stuff a little bit and it only grew from there yeah that's incredible okay so we have we have talked a lot on our podcast like theories which crate I'm gonna have you bring up the theory that I've been obsessed with that you've told me now like six times but what do you what do you think about Area 51 like what do you think is

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happening there um I honestly don't know but I think that there's something hopefully special going on there because it's such a big place and it's really just so secretive and hard to like impossible to get a glimpse of so you would think that if they have something like that with that level of security in the middle of nowhere that they're definitely at least something testing some of the coolest planes that we have right yeah and maybe more maybe there is like you know an alien spacecraft there and bodies of extraterrestrials you know I selfishly hope that but you know I have no idea I think that yeah because it's so secretive it's easy to create this sort of lore around it yeah we heard us so no one tried to sell you an alien body part or not yet like but like the Market's open like I'm ready to cut the check I will say I do hope I hope

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whatever's happening in Area 51 it's not like cutting them open and studying them like gruesomely or inhumanely I hope it's like consensual or they've died of natural causes well they prove us so like maybe they're just throwing them back yeah that's true that's true that's true but I feel like people generally come back okay right that is true right yeah like they're they're not they're totally fine yeah

Traumatic abductions

what's the story it was like um three women I covered this recently and of course I forgot their name Laura Smith or something like that and they were driving home from a birthday dinner and all three of them were abducted and like weird things started happening afterwards they had a lot of like serious PTSD and then like one of them and they had Electronics yeah like stopped working around her and like animals were acting very differently around them that one felt feels a little bit like it was a

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negative experience after the fact yeah man I think it's definitely something that's traumatic right like it's probably so unbelievable when it's happening that it's something like it's like a yeah a PTSD inducing experience for sure yeah yeah confusing and very few people to connect with after the fact yeah for very few people who would believe you yeah like if I got abducted by an alien no one would believe me it's unfortunate but it really did happen you know no one would believe me yeah we will be your support system thank you all of our listeners will believe you that's for sure right all of us together I do Wonder though because there are so many people that come back with either no memory or just think that their memories are a dream it was a nightmare and then there's just these random pieces that make them start to piece together and then after the fact realize

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oh maybe I was abducted maybe this was more than just a nightmare or missing time and it does make me wonder if this missing time piece and and the lack of memory is due to trauma just like us trying to protect ourselves from what happened or if there is some sort of weird thing that like we're sedated the majority of the time that we're there so there's no way for us to know where they can wipe your memory freaky yeah or Men In Black the memory of it is fuzzy right it's like every single yeah case so it makes you think that there's something else going on like yeah if you were to be under like anesthesia like on Earth it's like a similar thing somehow where it's like you're not like you're there but you have to like go piece the memories back together or something every time and when you talk to Travis wasn't he he was gone what five days and had only memory of maybe two hours yeah it was like his like in his head it was like a two-hour event and then that's

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when he was you know dropped back off and but that was five days later no

Aliens saving lives

because I know obviously you have so much more audio that you couldn't include in the project so do you know for Travis in his case if it appeared like they were keeping him alive with like water and food and stuff like that or if he just came back in serious native medical so he actually said I don't think it made the cut of the podcast but he basically said in his own words that he thinks that they saved his life like he thinks that because he was excited and ran out to this Flying Saucer they saw in the woods and got you know struck by some beam that was emitted from the craft I don't think that was you know their intent to do that and they're probably like oh [ __ ] and they just you know brought them aboard and like

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try to fix them up um because he felt like he was like when he woke up he like kept saying that he felt like he was dying like it was oh just like it was he was at the end of his life it was like physically mentally it was like he was shutting down and like I think it through hindsight he believes that they weren't there to harm him that maybe they actually saved his life and if you think about it it's like that I mean it technically makes sense based on the the version of events that you say yeah I mean we've heard a lot of stories there's one that really really stuck out to me and I can't remember if it was a listener story if we researched it but this girl was severely like very very ill and the doctors could not figure out what was wrong with her and one night she was in the hospital and she remembers like seeing this bright light and doesn't really remember much else but the next morning woke up was completely fine

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like the and the doctors were like how how did this happen like overnight just like miraculously totally fine and as she started getting older she started having like memories come back about that night and she believes that she was abducted and Aliens saved her wow I mean I guess it kind of makes sense if it's if aliens are an advanced like you know civilization if they're you know millions of years ahead of us if we just came back to I don't know the 1500s with antibiotics we could save a whole bunch of people um so it's not crazy to think that if aliens are real and that's what they are they're you know they're more advanced then they would have you know capabilities Beyond just their crafts but probably you know ways to live longer or forever maybe I don't know I totally believe that because what I

Theories on alien origin

mean assuming I think it's safe to assume that whatever alien species out

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there however many alien people bodies things are there they're obviously more advanced than us because they can come and go and we cannot we can't yeah they win then they're definitely more advanced yes way more advanced so it does make me like I'm not very fearful of an alien invasion and all that stuff that people talk about because I'm like what would they even want with us like we are so we're we're nothing yeah we're so special kind of well yeah and a lot of people in our world do think that way but we're not We're Not Gonna seriously you see how big the universe or anyone else in the Galaxy yeah yeah no yeah the only damage we can do is to ourselves and do they care maybe some of them just yeah crin will you share the theory that you've now shared with me many times

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okay I have no idea where this Theory Came From Pain maybe you have the answer because you've talked to a lot of people within this world within this space but there's a theory that aliens are us from the future so basically it's you've heard this right yeah yeah okay so just for anyone who's listening to like very quick rundown is if we continue to evolve and take into consideration all the things that are happening in the world with climate change and the Earth warming perhaps we will have larger eyes and and spend more time going out when the sun is not out because it's too hot and our skin will have a natural sunscreen and suddenly we're kind of this grayish shiny figure with large nocturnal eyes and then we have all this technology and all this knowledge and so our craniums begin to bulge and grow to take in all this knowledge and then to me at first when I heard this I was like okay but then I started thinking about it and I was like well who would be more obsessed with us

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than us right like we already are so obsessed with ourselves right yeah yeah we're we're a Top Dog on planet Earth or whatever so wouldn't it make sense if the aliens that we're seeing coming back and focusing and spending so much time here on Earth it's just us yeah I mean who else wants to come it could totally be true also it could be true and something else could simultaneously be true it could there could be a species of us that left this planet at some point and they just come back periodically to look at it like a zoo I don't know and then there's there's you know the universe is so big that it's there's no way that it's just like us and then there's aliens and they're from Mars or whatever you know from some random Planet there's probably so many things that it's would break your brain to think about mm-hmm I agree just break my brain it breaks my brain

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thinking about it right now I'm but it's like in the bed I don't know I I think yeah these types of conversations just we can all like we we don't know what we don't know so it's fun to theorize and hypothesize and then also understand that what we come up with is so small in comparison to like what could be real yeah I mean I think that just mathematically speaking it would be a bigger anomaly if we were alone in the universe not to say that that's not possible everything is possible but that would be Stranger Than there being you know however many races of you know extraterrestrials that are more advanced than us from some Far Away place that we can't see right yeah exactly and who's to say what they even look like like I always think about this I'm like there could be things around us all the time that we just can't even see there's so

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much light and sound in our current world that we can't see so what if there are these gaseous beings that don't even communicate they're just actually like one being in there all around us studying us and we have no idea so I mean I know you went into eye strange with a healthy skepticism right you weren't full-on tin foil like us conspiracy like we tend to be we believe everything right I yeah I wanted to go into that like I

Skepticism and belief

wanted people to like want to listen to a topic like this you know there's so many people that have an immediate aversion to the topic of UFOs and aliens extraterrestrials probably because it pokes at their you know core belief system a little bit you know it's maybe it's hard for you to rationalize this with your religion or this with your whatever I think that if you have like a

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fundament fundamental understanding of the world around you already instilled that you are comfortable like comfortable with then it might be hard for you to go there and instead of you know opening the door and you know keeping an open mind some people just shut it out and don't want to go there at all and so I wanted to I feel like that yeah very similar to the Paranormal world I mean I think anything in the Supernatural we could talk about Bigfoot too but it's easier sometimes to not believe because then it it feels scary to acknowledge these things that we do it does yeah yeah it's not like an uncomfortable thought yeah no and people can go so hard in the other direction too right where like they suddenly do believe in something like Bigfoot or a mermaid or an alien that comes to their window every night and abducts them on their birthday or whatever where they can't pull themselves back from a certain belief and understand that like we actually don't know anything about anything

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anything and so like we do have to still be open even if we do have our beliefs in some of the things that do seem a little bit woo-woo like our entire podcast but I think that's where Sabrina and I are always like we're prepared for anything because we're one foot in one foot out sure yeah which way will we go we don't know you're ready to yeah like take on any new information that you get right or new experience that you have yeah yeah

Roswell and early cases

did you go to any Museum s oriented the UFO Museum in Roswell New Mexico which is pretty cool I mean it's a little weird but um yeah I mean it's not cheesy but it was fun right like it's like here's this UFO Museum in Roswell and they're actually having a a UFO Festival at the time and we've heard of that yeah it was actually pretty cool it was like a you know almost like a local state fair or

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something that's like that's what it felt like um it was it was pretty cool and there was a lot of people there who were dressed up and it was it was silly um but we had fun it was like uh like you know where the hell are we we're just like in the middle of nowhere in Mexico at this UFO Museum but they actually did have something cool there they had this um like library of old books and tapes and like statements and stuff uh you know a lot of it about the Roswell incident is we like we were going through like playing these old like cassette tapes of like different random interviews and stuff it was pretty cool that's so cool yeah I'm sure that this is hard to answer but are there like if you could pick like two to three things that came out of researching and interviewing and all the stuff are high strange that really blew your mind what would it be yeah I think every major story that I covered I feel pretty strongly about even the the Reynolds from forest incident just talking to these guys all these

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years later and they're they're pretty old now they're in their late 70s early 80s and this was a totally strange event that occurred over several days um on a military base and there's still like not really a good explanation for it and they don't claim to know what it was specifically um but they'll tell you and you can just tell in the way that they're saying it that they believe it was something out of this world like quite literally and so those cases to me are super compelling especially the further you go back in time it's like you know today we live in a world where it's so easy to to fake anything like it's like every day it's getting easier to fix something and so it makes you like second guess the stuff you see in here sometimes

History of sightings

um just like even in a healthy way

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but if you go back to like the 60s or something you can like look at like what was happening that day in history and you can tell where we were technologically and so if someone's describing like let's say the Betty and Barney Hill incident they were describing this craft and this you know their alleged abduction but the way they described the craft was like you know saucer shaped making no noise uh they experience time loss and these were like new Concepts at the time like that like they didn't have really anywhere to draw this from so they either you know made it up and started this whole thing where other people were influenced by their stories or like they're one of the first people to actually have experienced that and it it became a news story and so it's like you know what I mean that's something I'm always curious about is and maybe you came across this in your research for high strange but what is the record

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like is there a record of the very first alien like encounter before Betty and Barney Hill I mean they go back like extremely far I mean hundreds of years um but you know the way they were describing them wasn't like using the words alien or UFO but you could look at stuff from like the 1500s you know reports of stuff that was seen in the sky that you know scared people or whatever and it the way that they describe it sometimes sounds like what someone claims to have seen today that would be called a UFO or a UAP and if you go back to like in modern history like I think the first like big one in American history was this pilot I think he kind of sort of almost like coined like accidentally the the term Flying Saucer uh he saw like a bunch of these you know saucerer shaped crafts in the sky flying and I it's like from that

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point forward that that sort of narrative is kind of seen in other places it's not to say that that wasn't seen somewhere else but it wasn't being heavily reported or even you know told to anybody and probably for good reason you probably sound pretty crazy in the 20s if you were seeing saucer shaped I mean even today people are scared to talk about it right yes exactly yeah so that hasn't changed much and culturally we have no clue how many how much involvement or how many sightings people had you know hundreds of years ago because they could have Associated another name with something or called it a deity or or something that now in records we look back and we have no idea that maybe it actually was exactly the same thing the people six thousand miles away we're also experiencing yeah I mean so yeah most of the things in history that we couldn't explain back then were explained Away by

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religion in some way or some sort of other like cultural belief and so I think that you know UFOs were were treated the same way where it's like you saw some weird light in the sky maybe it was some other like you know scientific thing that we can explain today like some weird cloud or whatever but like you know the stuff that sounds like they're talking about a craft or some light that's moving around that's you know physically there and not just some like you know weird you know whatever I think that it was always explained away like through religion because that's the only way they could do it right but now there's science to apply to a lot of these things that's you know that's way further down the road and it opens the door to say hey well you know we can't really say that this is you know Jesus every time so at what point do we start like trying to figure out what this is scientifically I think we're finally there like all the way

Underwater crafts

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what are your thoughts on the sightings that people have coming from the ocean because we always look to the skies and say UFOs but in recent past there's been a lot of conversations about these similarly shaped cigar or saucer like crafts emerging and moving through oceans and bodies of water pretty seamlessly I feel like if you're an extraterrestrial with some Advanced craft that can go seemingly anywhere and come from places that we can't see if you were trying to hide on Earth the best place to be would be one like in the sky in the middle of the ocean because no one's out there sometimes they are but not not very many people and if you wanted to hide just go Boop I mean what we're gonna do Chase it down to the bottom of the sea no we can't even our planes can't even go in there so it's like see this is why don't we talk about it I'm like I just so badly

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like I just want to be abducted or I want to be an alien because the two things that I have such fascination of and about is the ocean and space like I just want I know to experience and understand I keep telling Sabrina I'm like you're trying to kill yourself Sabrina you're trying to go to the places that we know like the least about and if one thing goes wrong you're gonna die which is a cool way to do if she wants to go yeah I feel like I want to get abducted but then the second that I am I'm like oh [ __ ] man like I don't really want to do this tonight you know like I got stuff to do in the morning like this was a cool idea like I know I said I wanted to be abducted but like now I'm here I'm it's pretty [ __ ] scary you're not speaking English to me I don't know what's going on uh can can we go back like can we have like scheduled This and like yeah do this at a later date yeah I think what you guys want is an abduction where you're conscious and

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it's time bound so you have like 45 minutes of getting to experience yeah let's do this but then it's like a Disney World right it's like you know yeah yeah exactly you can trust it right you're not gonna die yeah grab the fast pass yeah your fast pass or maybe not the fast you can write it again if you want it's like if you finish it early yeah maybe there's an alien listening right now and they're like wow what an entrepreneur that's such a good idea I'm gonna start they have a great business and now we're gonna have yeah let's try it yeah we would pay big money for that I do think we need to be abducted first in order to make this agreement with the alien species and then start the business with them I totally agree yep so if you're if they're here this is really a business proposition more than anything yes

CE5 and dimensions

well welcome to two girls one ghost we uh often maybe every episode come up with like two to three business ideas and um forget about them a week later so perfect living the American dream

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what do you think of uh ce5 events and have you so refresh me on what ce5 events are is that where people get together and find communicate or something or what's the deal with that again yeah so it's typically like more telepathic communication but it's actual communication with an alien so there's different levels of Close Encounters you know where you like see a craft where you see a being in a craft where you are abducted things like that and then Close Encounters of the fifth kind is communication mostly telepathic and so people will go into the desert into different areas and they'll meditate for you know two hours and during this meditation they'll be getting messages they'll be getting signs and people have captured you know odd light anomalies in the sky around them as they're doing that or strange energy suddenly appearing behind someone with all the the different almost like ghostbusting devices that they bring along

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mm-hmm I mean no I could be completely wrong but to me that sounds like [ __ ] it sounds like it you know it's like cool yeah if you get high enough you'll see whatever you want to see to be honest um yeah or if you deprive yourself if you're in some you know sweat lodge you're gonna see some weird [ __ ] um yeah I but also like I said I could be completely wrong they could be they could have figured it out and they're communicating with these aliens I'm over here making fun of them yeah I have no idea I would give it a try to see like what's going on and right give you my own assessment of it um but yeah I have no idea but also that there's stuff like even with taking drugs sometimes that is weird like if you take DMT everyone sees like the same kind of right you know creatures yeah we did a whole episode I went in kind of thinking like okay

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this is this is [ __ ] you know like people are just getting super high and tripping balls but it is so strange it's like how does everyone see the same thing and experience the same thing well that's the hard thing is like what we use very minimal percentage of our brains like are we by using those you know chemical drugs I'll just say are we expanding our use of our brain and there's no way necessarily to know 100 or are we somehow like bridging some Gap or like slipping between the cracks just for a second or just seeing Beyond the Veil or something right right um it's doing something to your brain where you can like you know if it was like a dimensional thing you're getting a glimpse into like you know the other side of the mirror or something right

Astral protection

yeah and I've been there been conversations

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about what you've heard that there's perhaps abductions exist on the astral plane in some way and so there is this like crossover between aliens and the Paranormal or like you know Souls however you want to believe in it but you know I have astral traveled accidentally but like I have fully felt and seen myself outside of my body and I haven't done it since because it was really scary but it does make me wonder like what are we capable of outside of our bodies and just more of like as our soul and our energy probably a lot you know hopefully we uncover more definitive proof of anything in our lifetime but I think that there probably is a lot of potential in our own brains that you know one day and maybe AI will help us get there right we'll like help

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like just make that accelerate even faster than it is now but yeah like the remote viewing stuff like this is stuff that like the government's actually looked into you know like they're not like they don't all think it's totally crazy there's something to it but we just haven't figured it all out yet right we haven't put like a you know we haven't built to press a button and it just happened right or like be able to create how to use this to our advantage all the way another theory that I really love uh is in Korean I think one who said that they are really good at Asheville traveling astral projection and they try to access Area 51 and when they got there they were astral bodyguards that chased her so it's psychically protected as well and that she's right almost like we keep saying Looper but it's not

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Looper it's that one movie where they like look at photos and they like jumper it's jumper and they jump into different photos but she said is it not Looper is there isn't it very similar but she said she had a zinc similar to that one movie where she had to think of a place and then would jump into it and then they would chase her they chased her through all of these different locations all over the world in her astral body on the astral plane wow So eventually she shook the tail but she was like yeah so you can't actually go anywhere even if you do feel like you've mastered astral projection which is so freaky because it's right like or maybe they've figured it out enough to where like they're ready for yeah you know if you get to that level in the game then level up in the simulation guys you got a defeat here at the door right yeah if I had all the time in the world I would every night do a ce5 event just to see you know or you know practice meditating

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every day really get in touch with my astral self and just see where it takes me yeah that sounds awesome you know in order to do that you have to know right yeah you can live stream that would be amazing I stream it people will pay you you can make anything a job these days yeah right yeah me just paying me to live stream this exactly my life yes yeah just me meditating all day is there

Government documents

one thing really kind of being a little bit more stubborn heels in the ground on that you flipped on after talking to people I think just the magnitude of the whole thing uh like just how many stories there really are and there's so many stories that it becomes

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something that's hard to even rationalize why there'd be this many stories if they're even all made up like it's there's so much going on and even stuff like the Roswell event like in my head that was totally like this is some [ __ ] this is some conspiracy theory thing you know we've all heard about this but it didn't take long looking into the actual documents of stuff and I'm like did this actually happen though and you know I found the old like radio show that announced that a saucer had crashed and I was just sort of thinking logically about it and I got to this point where I was like if this was all literally nothing if it was just a weather balloon like they're saying then it wouldn't have even been a story really like no one would have even talked about it because it wouldn't have been anything like this flimsy weather

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balloon lands in the middle of the desert I mean if that happened today no one would know about it who cares and so the the government response to it all was pretty telling and then I also found this is was like halfway into this the series this came out a couple months ago but Australia released these documents that pretty much revealed that surprise they also like other countries look at what we're doing like we do what they're doing and they back in the day were perplexed by the whole Roswell incident and the way that it was you know being handled in the media and just the secrecy behind it just The Oddities that surrounded the story that they did their own investigation as a country and they concluded that something definitively happened and that it was likely you know saucers that crashed or

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a saucer that crashed there and that there were beings oh my God and hell yeah Australia and I'm like damn that's the uh that's another government saying that that's what they think right we found and it's funny that they secondary filled with a bunch of Bad actors and had to do their own investigation yeah yeah yeah it was just too weird right it was strange yeah I have multiple questions but first is there going to be a season two of high strange and then second were there any stories that maybe you didn't include in season one because you were like I don't believe this to be true season two I'm pretty sure there's going to be a season two uh there's enough stories I think that the appetite is there you know yeah I want to make a season two but it you know I always do it would come down to the audience wanting we want a season too has been positive enough if y'all want to keep going down this rabbit hole with me I think we could do

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it right and I think there's a lot more to explore and I already have some ideas of you know how we could you know immediately take it from episode eight to another thing um yeah what was your second question was about were there any stories you didn't include because you had a feeling that they were made up or not real

Listener experiences

um nothing that I thought was like made up in the sense that I think this person's lying through their teeth to me but there were some stories that were so weird and just so kooky sounding that even if they were telling the truth and I can tell you that they seem to believe what they were saying for whatever that's worth that I'm like I don't even know like I I want to focus on the strongest cases that have the most data that have the audio tape that you can hear just like the strongest cases that I could find to be able to open up a real

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conversation about it if I hit you over the head with all these this you know this kooky stuff then it's gonna be yeah what am I in for what are we doing here and so I think that we can eventually go deeper down and explore some of these things but I didn't think that that was the best way to to tell this kind of story because I was trying to really make the anti-ufo UFO podcast where it's not made for the Believers because they're going to listen to it either way right but it's made for people who are like nah I don't know what's like people who are uncertain listen to this and tell me what you think and and want to learn more about it but like kind of in the privacy of their own headphones so that yeah yeah exactly right you don't have to join the club right you can be exactly who you are and just be mildly curious right just just have an open mind enough and that's okay I get that you don't have the time to to think about this all day it's like you know I was able to afford to do that which is like you know

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I'm doing it for you I'm like I'm helping you out like I already did that I'm just giving you the stuff and you tell me when you have a listener you talking about the the need for some additional evidence for some of the cases to be included that makes total sense and there was this one listener who emailed us who's husband I believe thought perhaps he and some of his friends were abducted and sent us a what was it was like a 30 minute long audio clip or something like that and it was audio it was a video but it felt like it was it was basically all dark except for like a few weird flashes of light so it's mostly audio they lost assault like two or three hours of their evening and have no idea what happened but suddenly this group was still in the woods again they were like hunting or camping or doing something and they were they found themselves back there and just thinking it was odd and found this recording on

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his phone later in the first five minutes in the last five minutes have noise and it's like this whooshing sounds like a engine or almost what you would think like a UFO to sound like and then in the end you hear like a thump like he's being thrown back on the ground like he basically was being dumped and you hear the whoa whoa and you hear the car door open and closed like it's almost as if like someone's entering the vehicle and then in the beginning there's a weird like old tummies radio-esque voice children it was super creepy we'll send it to you what we'll send it to you please send it to me what kind of video is it like what kind of it's from a phone so it's probably like let me look like what kind of phone is a or whatever the m4a whatever the iPhones are I think yeah be curious if it was an iPhone video If there's like anything in the metadata that like said where it was recorded at

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yeah we didn't look at any of that you know try to check and just like okay that checks out or this checks out like whatever right his original videos were on an iPhone one or something so they had to be split into two when you tried to share them and our listener is from um Baylor said that anytime she would try to share it with people like it would get deleted and her like her computer would react in certain ways yeah we have one back in the day uh I guess this was back in it's badass let's see 2016. okay I'll send it to you um

Alien studies

but we also okay we have so many emails from listeners we've read recently that I was like okay I'm gonna read parts of this to pain and see what you're taking on it so this is from our listener Ken and it kind of seems like kin is in the same or her experience was a little bit of like astral projection but okay I'll read you a couple of

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things she says the first thing I remember is being on board a large craft somewhere in space this wasn't just a ship it was more like a space station that accommodated dozens of its crew members and departments which seemed to be a combination of scientists technicians aerospace engineers and the like I was intuitively made aware that this is the life they were used to for generations and they were no longer inhabiting one single planet but were voyagers to other star systems I was moving down a long narrow card Corridor with laboratory rooms along the left side that I could see into walking on my right side was this being who was giving me a tour of the facilities he looked very much human resembled a regular human man with dark hair but it was slightly taller and dressed in some kind of uniform just as other crew members were and then he started speaking to me telepathically he proceeded to tell me that they were collectively working for Generations it was a team of advanced scientists dedicated to preserving the record of

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all life on Earth and other planets across different galaxies in other words every creature that has ever gone extinct in our Earth's history wasn't actually extinct it was very much thriving on another planet somewhere else in the universe due to this group of people's experiments let's see they said they would collect DNA samples and preserve the animals that were going extinct then they would replicate it in their lab and release it to one of their many charted Earth-like planets which they kept track on on a very complex interactive map of different star systems as we continue to walk down the long Corridor I noticed that these lab rooms on my left were actually specimen chambers that it contained live creatures that were being held there temporarily some of them were so strange looking and seemed so alien I remember thinking that is not an earth creature to which the being who could detect my thoughts replied you're right these are life forms from other star systems that's basically the essence of it and

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then there was she talks about one part where she reads like a fox like creature and the being told her that it was a red fox that was going extinct on Earth and they were going to help repopulate it and when she came back from this experience in in her Waking Life she looked it up and the red fox was back in like I don't know 2018 there was a whole report about how they were going extinct and then a couple months or years later all of a sudden there was like a massive population found in a certain area in the United States weird did she ever ask this person or person alien uh yeah why she was there it's like this seems like a very cool tour like man like this is VIP access why me yeah I don't know she had been on so we we have something called campfire stories where we do live stories with people and she had come on before and shared some of her other alien

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encounters and there was a time where she felt or thought that she experienced an alien coming in through her window and essentially microchipping her so she is part of some sort of longitudinal study or or a marked one who yeah so maybe she's part of she's like one of the studies right and they're just yeah telling her what's going on and so I mean yeah I don't know I hope that's true right I hope she's okay and how many yeah which humans have been marked because obviously there are some species of animals from every single planet all being collected so that makes me wonder like are there humans in cages somewhere there right yeah I mean maybe but there are a lot of missing people yeah and so they never find so it is freaky though because in the beginning you were saying that we're at the zoo and it does

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feel like that often but it's also interesting to think of this experience for can in astral form or or at least felt that she was in astral form was somehow abducted and was watching like another type of zoo happen and then it

Ant hill analogy

makes me curious about like what is this alien faction of of these researchers and these people I we all keep calling them people these beings that are so focused on sustaining life despite what might be happening on the planet where those things are from so they're not just necessarily letting us wipe ourselves and other things out but why why not yeah I mean if you become that advanced like this like you're running out of things to do it's like you're right this is what you do now because you're capable of doing it I feel like if any species of anything like if if another species of anything becomes you know significantly more advanced

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than us then we become the zoo kind of automatically it's like if there is a at your local Zoo like in your city if a zebra gets out right they always find that thing he's always coming back you know it's like it doesn't matter how far you go it doesn't matter it's like there's a similar analogy with like if there's a spaceship that comes down to earth we can't chase him out of here it's like cool see ya like what are you gonna do come to my star system nope and it's like okay we're kind of powerless in that way so it's like there's you know there's really like no incentive for them to do anything like totally messed up unless there's like you know a group of bad ones that likes you know that likes to do evil [ __ ] and pardon me hopes that the more advanced that you become as a as a species that you know

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the The Dangerous Ones get weeded out and so you've kind of become like more advanced or what they consider to be dangerous I do like that like beyond our scope of understanding too you know they're not focused on right it's like not even yeah it's like not even worth their thought I just it does give me a little bit of faith in I mean I can't I guess I can't say Humanity necessarily but in the future just this idea that ego gets put aside and it's about there's just goodness everyone has a positive hobby for some I like that their hobby is collecting animals from all the different galaxies it's their own little trinkets yeah that's like the Beanie Babies that we yeah we're also like their reality TV show we're just they they kind of come in just to see what's up right now yeah right it's a simulation we're close to figuring out like oh my

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God are they going to do it it's like no I'm not and they're like oh I was like all right yeah it's like next week on Earth I did see someone make them out the other day where where there was someone online who was who was trying to kind of like dismantle or or just give some counter arguments to what we often say which is like why don't the aliens just introduce themselves to us why haven't they come like we're peaceful whatever like why don't we know them if they're so much more powerful so much more advanced why haven't they made themselves more known and someone did basically say well if you were that advanced why would you be so interested in what's happening here like how often do you go up to an ant hill and say hello my name is Corinne and start to engage with them and try to know them and you don't most people don't and so that was my numbers okay then it was you I was listening to high strange yeah like

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unless you're on shrooms right it's like that it was you in my ear I I believe that yeah yeah like one of my friends said this to me on the phone it's like well yeah no no that got me though um yeah I believe that though that makes total yeah it's like that's real I have

Personal UFO encounter

to tell you I saw a UFO once and I'm gonna tell you my UFO story did you not super exciting but I did think I was gonna die so it was traumatic for me really wow it was in Los Angeles it was in Westchester on Colegio Drive in La if anyone lives over there but it's up on a bluff so the bluff looks over Marina Del Rey you can see the ocean you can see the marina down below um so it's basically like a cliffside house and it was the house I was living in in college it was daytime maybe like 2 p.m I lived amongst six other women and there were a few friends coming over and so maybe in total there were there were

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like five of us six of us in the house that day but we were all just sitting upstairs the living room was upstairs so we could see through all the windows like a coastal Beach House see everything and there was a giant flash of blue light that came through all of the windows and kind of like blinded us for a second and my first thought was like oh my God Ellie's being bombed like I literally was like we're under attack we rushed to the window and there is nothing we see absolutely no activity there's one helicopter down in Marina del Rey but when is there not and so everything seemed ordinary but we could see out in the distance two little white lights just kind of like hovering over the ocean it looked like maybe they were 20 miles off the coast and we go out to the balcony which is on the Second Story and we're looking at these dots and then to the left of us someone notices that there is a freaking UFO like truly it looked like if you drew a UFO except it wasn't silver it

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was all black it was super matte black like a saucer had the lights down below it was maybe a quarter mile away it was so close and we could see it perfectly so I was like oh my God it can see us perfectly my roommate Taylor went to go get her film camera wanted to film it which I think everyone here would be like yes yes film the evidence I begged and pleaded her not to film it because I was so scared that they would know we were filming and abduct us I was crying I texted a goodbye text to my parents I was like if I go missing I was abducted like we were truly watching this UFO for maybe four minutes at one point all of us must have collectively looked away from it and when we looked back it was gone and we look out to the ocean and there's now a third light in the ocean so it we assumed it was that craft basically in the Split Second zooming to the other

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UFOs how big do you think it was I'm like not good at estimating size what I would say maybe the size maybe like the width or the length of like two Greyhound buses stacked against each other it was big it was really big wow so when you looked at this you just instinctually felt that it was something you know different I mean it wasn't moving it scared you because you just instinctually knew something right it's like you didn't know what it was but some you knew like your instincts were telling you something that was like hey this is like why'd you freak out is it because you felt like this is this is this is the real deal of something

Reality glitches

not yeah it was so close I think what was your like I think if it was further away I might have been like yeah film it but it was so close that it was like if

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this thing had eyes it could we were making eye contact like it saw the the cluster of the five or six of us out on the balcony staring up at it it was so close there were no trees like maybe one palm tree obstructing our view of it it was perfectly close and it wasn't very high in the sky either like it was it was I don't know maybe 40 feet above the house like the the rooftops so I think it was just so close so freaked out that it very clearly knew and could see us and if we did anything that could have seemed like a threat to its existence what what is our defense my plastic broom from Target like that's all I had on me like this isn't gonna work it was more of like a fight or flight of like okay this thing is aware of us I'm sure and if it's not it can become aware of us in a split second and we have no chance to against it so I'm not taking it I'm not risking it

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when did this happen Wendy 14 or 15. so those are the two years that I lived in that house if you're like looked up the date to see if anyone else like posted a video or anything for a month do you think someone would have seen it for months I I looked up even the blue flash was constantly looking up like did anyone see a blue flash in the sky it was only the group of us right there no I couldn't find it and I guess in our defense like we didn't put it online like we didn't write anything online about our experience so true right right but that's another thing that's so interesting to me because I feel like there are certain instances where collectively an entire town or multiple people will see something but then also there are other times where like just one person sees something and we've even had stories where multiple people were together and just one person was seeing it so it's like

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is it us like is there just like a weird glitch where we're able to see something yeah that we're not usually supposed to see like that one piece of shoes outlawed or whatever that you see through the through the Veil right maybe some people are just naturally better at seeing something that's probably designed to be able to camouflage itself pretty well right but also could just be a total just like by chance like you know it just happens to be in this specific spot in the sky at this hour and maybe only certain people were close enough to see it the way that you did and maybe there wasn't really that many people and they just have a similar story like as you do but that's it it's like okay it's like even if you all saw it and even two you still know what it is a city too I feel like there's so much that we just ignore because there's so much that happens around us like a giant flash of light or a loud boom yeah

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exactly how often am I actually going to the window to see to see what's going on yeah there could be the craziest [ __ ] like happening announced on my in my front yard right now unless it makes it really loud noise I have no idea yeah they're gonna be a good thing you could see this I feel like it was around people who have blinders up because we're just used to ignoring all the chaos that happens around us yeah so very true I think that's what we're just looking down scrolling on Tick Tock thought it was part of the video yeah they're like that's pretty cool [Laughter]

Alien movies

Jill Is MeMe you're like oh my God my family did grow up though around where Betty and Barney Hill were abducted and we used to go yeah so my my dad's from right there and then I grew up like two and a half hours away driving and in the summer we'd go out on the boat and I saw it multiple times throughout my life but we would look up at the stars you know you look for shooting stars and you

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catch the satellites going across and then every so often there's a star that goes so yeah what's that one yeah I didn't think they were scary until I saw them yeah raised to believe yeah right do you okay do you have a favorite alien movie and do you watch alien type movies differently now after doing all the work for high strange there's like I feel like there's not enough good Alien movies they're they're always like they turn into you know they have machine guns on a spaceship and they're like it's like it's always like this crazy ridiculous thing destroy Earth yes it's like a different kind of narrative that I don't really like I'm not super into um I think that there's a couple like Classics like contact was good um there's a movie called Fast write this down I've never heard it you'll

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heard uh that's really cool it's like they're basically like I think it's in the 40s or 50s and they're like a small town they have this like local radio station almost like a podcast but like they're getting all these stories from residents of people seeing something in the sky and they're kind of building this Narrative of something's happening and it like ends like pretty crazy um it's like super suspenseful and like you know yeah keeps you going it's not like a Sci-Fi Action Movie what's that one that came out years ago rival with Amy Adams it came out that's what I was doing yes arrival was good yeah that's a great one I like the they kind of like flipped it a little bit it was just a good movie right I wish we were more like that um like those are like the best ones you might be leaving one can't go past a cornfield without thinking of signs signs was great as a kid I love that movie and two the scene where the knife goes underneath where they put the knife underneath the crack of the door to see

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the alien body reflection I think about that every single day because every day there I see a crack under the door and I think of that scene because it scarred me I also saw it when I was like eight oh yeah exactly I was a kid I I used to have a science movie poster in my room did you used to love that movie I watched so I was such a scaredy cat growing up so I saw a scary movie which was making fun of that's how you saw signs first yeah that's how I saw signs first oh yeah I think that's actually how I Saw Scream first I never like I don't think I had seen scream before I watched the first scary movie and then I couldn't oh then scream was were different to me right yes I think that's the same for me too oh yeah yeah

Apartment haunting story

um I know we could probably talk about aliens for forever but this is a paranormal podcast and you told us that you had a ghost story

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so if you want to share it with everyone else yeah so this is It's kind of long so I'm gonna like go over the basics here so this this happened and I say ghost story I don't know there's some there was just something weird going on right I don't know what it is this was probably at least 10 years ago I was living uh in an apartment with my girlfriend at the time no longer together but this we live in an apartment uh that we just moved into in Atlanta it was nice it was a newer apartment like in an up-and-coming part of town I had an office that I worked at when I was doing like film stuff before I made podcasts and I was there late one night it was like two in the morning and I was on the way home and she calls me and she's super quiet on the phone and she's like hey are you on the way home I was like yeah I'll be there in like 15 minutes she's like okay can you hurry and I was like yeah like is everything okay and she's like yeah I'll tell you

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when you get here I'm like what and she's Dominus and I'm like what the hell am I walking into I'm like yeah and I'm like on high alert and I'm like you know is there someone in the apartment like is this like a bad what is happening so I sped my ass all the way to my apartment complex and I get there and she's just sitting on the edge of the bed in our room and I'm like what's going on and she said that she was putting her clothes away in this dresser and she was like on the floor like doing that and she said all of a sudden she felt a hand on the back of her like shoulder like a I was like what do you mean I'm like like a physical hand she's like yes I was like okay well you know what anything else happen it's just like yes I got freaked out and so I I you know closed the dresser drawers and I sat in the bed under the covers

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and then this you know floor lamp fell over onto the uh bed and I was like really and I go over to the floor lamp and I'm like you know it's pretty sturdy it's not really going anywhere unless you push it and I was like [ __ ] man I was like this place haunted I'm like what what are we doing and I was like I was immediately freaked out cause I'm like she's not making this up and I'm like I don't know what to do and so I end up you know I didn't sleep at all that night I don't think and from that point forward weird stuff just like kind of kept happening and you know the only thing I ever experienced was like a couple things it was uh you know I went to like from my room to the kitchen and I came back out and went right back and then the refrigerator door was wide open that now I'm like I didn't know that straight up Paranormal Activity and then one time my friend came over and he was like um he slept out like he like we like got

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drunk or something and he slept on my floor and I woke up or he and he was on the floor and he's like like what the hell happened here this pot like this potted plant had like it was that was huge had somehow like tipped over and like broke and I'm like are you [ __ ] with me dude like did you do this and he's like no man like and he was freaked out and so it was around that time that I called my uncle and I was like okay I think my house is haunted dude and like he's like a very kind of like spiritual like hippie guy is it all right here's what you need to do I need to get some sage and you need to like do all this stuff so I get Sage I'm burning sage and and then someone told me like something random that like if you take a uh a cup of water and you put a knife in it that it'll they'll go away I was like whatever I'll try it and so I did that right and I my girlfriend went out of town with some of her girlfriends that

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weekend and so it was just me there and it was the first night by myself was fine and I was like okay maybe it's maybe it's gone right then in the middle of the night on the second night this is probably like again like one or two in the morning I hear this blood curdling scream like the loudest scream I've ever heard in my life and I'm like what the hell is going on and so it was coming from like outside my apartment like in the hallway and so I opened the door wait sorry was the was your knife still it was yes so the yeah so the knife thing seemed to be working and then I hear this scream that's not inside my apartment but just outside of it and I opened the door and there's several other neighbors who were looking out and there's this guy who was actually in my next door neighbor and he was running around screaming that he wanted to kill himself and I was like holy [ __ ] like what do we do and so we're you know trying to tell them to calm down it's all good someone calls

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the police you know paramedics show up they end up taking him away and I was like holy [ __ ] that was insane and so my friend was coming in town the next morning we were going to a a football game I was like do you won't believe what happened last night it was so crazy I was telling this whole story we go to the game and then we come back that night and it's probably like seven or eight pm just getting dark and then I hear uh when am I according to get my Chapstick or something random as I'm walking back to my my room or my my apartment I can hear like the same kind of screaming coming from inside my neighbor's apartment I'm like is he in there as I can see back from like the hospital so I put my ear to the door and I could just hear him like you know like talking to himself screaming like having like a you know like a episode of something right and so I was I thought he was going to kill himself or something so I I bang on the door like hey like are you okay just got

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completely dead silent I was like uh oh I'm like hey are you good I was like what the hell and so just so happened like in that moment me and my friend were trying to buy some weed from one of my friends and we're like we had to go right now I was like I had a bad feeling in my stomach and I was like okay it was like down the street and the whole time I was thinking I was like do I need to call the police or something I was like I don't even know how much do I insert myself into this and so we were going for like 20 30 minutes when we get back and as soon as we I pull up to the complex there are police cars there is an ambulance and I'm like what the hell is going on so I go into my apartment and I go to the balcony and this guy had jumped off the balcony and like pierced his like his face in this fence and they were getting him out with the jaws of life and he was he was still moving around I was like

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this guy what the [ __ ] just happened and scary as hell the guy actually ends up Surviving um miraculously which is amazing but he's you know not in great shape though and this is I think that they his family eventually sued the hospital because they let him out too early on their like I guess you know suicide watch like hold or something and it's been a thing that I've been like periodically reminded of because you know they've used like my 9-1-1 call in the in the in the court and like all this stuff and I was like the only guy who had like a first hand account and it was like in hindsight that and maybe there's no relation at all but it felt like there was something in my apartment that was [ __ ] with us that was not being like super friendly at all like and the second it seemed to go away this guy has this you know

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mental break and maybe it's totally unrelated and it was just totally like a mental health thing right that would make more sense but the timing of it all was so weird to me and it's like I just can't help but like you know look at that as like that was the timeline of events it was this was happening that was bothering us it went away then this happens his family is like what the hell why is he acting like this and I'm like it's almost immediate like immediately one night you're fine and then the next you're waking up to your neighbor and and up until that point you had not had any occurrences like that with your neighbor right no I'd never even seen before um wow yeah and like that was my only encounter and it was like a total shock that he you know was yeah going through something like this right I mean yeah and so I have no idea you know what was really going on I was kind of I you know I was in the dark pretty much the whole time even still right of course this day but you know to me I'm like there's a

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part of me it's like I wonder like I still know what happened in my apartment with all that weird stuff that was going on and it didn't seem like it was a friendly thing and it went away and then the next thing you know like you know my neighbor next door has this like you know episode that ended like very badly and I'm like is there any yeah relation there or is it just totally coincidence and how do you know like you know now I'll never know right yeah it's like not like the theory I want to handle to anybody like I'm not gonna go we hear this so often in emails that we get from our listeners and also just in researching various haunted places and haunted homes and and things like that that dark energies these like poltergeists these entities are attracted too vulnerable vulnerable situations and vulnerable people so if someone is going through some depression or mental health

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issues like they're a great Target sadly for something that's dark and demonic and whether or not that played into it or not it does make me wonder if yeah this thing was there with your neighbor for a long time and maybe it had just gotten so powerful that it did kind of bleed over into your apartment and what you were witnessing by trying to banish it with it being like sucked back and all that energy being so concentrated around this one poor guy who was already going through a ton it's just uh it's so frustrating because it's hard to know it's hard to know and I'll say it never [ __ ] with me is the thing like I witnessed everything that was happening and like I was convinced that this place was haunted and there was something going on in here and it was it scared me but it never like you know poked at me or like did and but would do stuff to my girlfriend who I think was

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actually at the time like in our lives I think was probably a little bit more vulnerable than me at that time and I always look back I'm like Why didn't it [ __ ] with me right and I'm like I I think that like maybe it right didn't think that and it didn't need to because it had other people around I don't like it like yep didn't need to or whatever I don't know but like there's something too that oh my gosh I can't believe this is your one your one paragraph that's the only real one like of like Paranormal stuff I know it's pretty intense it's crazy I have no clue what's related and what's not but like that's that's what happened over the course of a few weeks and then a couple of days at that apartment and then after that there was no nothing wow again we're there for like you know the rest of the least like nine more months and nothing you know I'm glad to hear it at least you're you're a neighbor who's concerned if you called the police you banged on the door you did all that and

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then simultaneously you also acted on The Haunting right you didn't just like Let The Haunting Fester you you called out to your resources and tried to do something so I'm happy to hear that it sounds like you probably won't be haunted ever because you're gonna nip it in the bud immediately I hope not I really don't want it you know like you don't want it I don't wanna it's like let's just you know pick another house man like come on we're breaking up right now you know you gotta stay here for like one night if you're like you're traveling that's fine but like stay downstairs and don't go upstairs like yeah make your bed up when you're done like man too this is like you could do a whole podcast about like kind of like high strange but the pair s kind of like what I was hoping like you know expanding the world of like the strange stuff that happens like there's yeah and you guys talk about all those kind of things we have some suggestions so yeah it'd be cool to expand it Beyond just like UAP right dang well we're

Closing thoughts

excited to see what you have in store and we're big fans of Tenderfoot TV

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interview you were actually one of the first podcasts I ever thank you we're a big fan of English was I think it was oh really first yeah the third podcast I'd ever listened to but the first like episodic series that I'd ever listened to and told every single one of my co-workers about it every single one of my friends and then was that season one yeah what did you dive into first yeah yeah okay I was like waiting okay getting the live updates yeah screaming as you solve the case that was a crazy time yeah yeah yeah that was that's wild that's awesome though is there anything else you want to tell our listeners about they can listen to high strange for every listen to podcasts yeah I mean just like working on if they haven't checked all high strains definitely check out hi strange I think you'll you'll probably enjoy it um tons of other stuff that we're working on um in this space if you know if if they don't listen to radio rental that's a

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that's a fun show with spooky stories Sometimes some paranormal kinds of things um but yeah work on a whole bunch of stuff this year that you know is super exciting you know another up and vanish season that I'm working on um but yeah just if you like uh High strange then you might like some of our other shows and give them a shot yeah and we'll be listening to everything so thank you um thank you for joining us Payne absolutely this was fun very fun we could talk about this all the time all right we say something we say something at the end as our like tagline and you're welcome to whisper it with us if you'd like I say we will see you on the other side and Sabrina you can whisper we can pain you and I can whisper see you on the other side we will see you on the other side

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I told you it was slower