Haunted with Georgia Hardstark | My Favorite Murder

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hi we're so excited for today's episode like truly my God cheerleader arms Jazz fingers all of it first podcast we ever listened to my favor Mur podcast that bonded us that inspired our podcast I went and saw them live the first podcast I ever saw live same on Halloween nonetheless really in Los Angeles oh my God so we've been we've been my favorite murder listeners for a very long time OG listeners before any of our friends even listen to podcast you and I were listening to my favorite murder people didn't even know what podcasts were the first two podcasters we stalked truly like stalking is a light it's light it it's lightly what we did but we got to talk to Georgia hardstark and we played it pretty cool I think we did a good job also it helped that I was balling my eyes out like 20 minutes prior to this and I had to get my act together and be like okay I'm a human we're and I've been numb for seven months because I don't sleep and I'm just trying to keep a baby alive yeah so

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that made it easy for us to not absolutely lose our [ __ ] but we are losing our [ __ ] now because how freaking cool that we got stock to Georgia it really feels like this amazing beautiful full circle moment and we're so grateful for the conversation we had it was so much fun we played a really fun game that K and I want to play all the time I know it was really fun to research it yeah so we really hope you enjoy this episode with georia hardstark of my favorite murder and of a special place in our heart we love you Georgia we do uh we hope you enjoy very spooky

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hi look how cute your studio is it's brand new it's new to us I know I'm so excited for you guys we have some of some uh vintage items in here I'm so ter so our studio is like just the office in my house and I've been both excited to get some antiques but also terrified that my house is going to become more haunted from us doing this yeah we would record at my house but I have a cat and Kar is like definitely allergic I know oh no I know but cuz I'm like I want to collect haunted things yeah I would you have to take them home I feel like you have a lot of antiques and vintage items have you ever experienced anything like with anything you've picked up um no I feel very like close and like like a lot of them are precious because I get them sometimes at estate sales so I'll know like the whole kind of the whole life of the person I bought them from and nice it's really weird like plucking one

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thing that I'm like this is cool that you like that like a little judgmental but I'm always like well I'm going to take really good care of it I'm going to love it I like display all my vintage things and stare at them and they just kind of all mean a lot to me and have stories so I feel like yeah if I'm going to get haunted by them which is fine it'll be positive because I'm like cherishing stuff that they cherish too that's a good attitude to take in Massachusetts there's a antique flea Fair sort of it's called Brimfield it's like the large one in the US and I go every sing year oh my God my dream but you should come out and go they have it three times a year but that's kind of my rule when I'm there I'm like I have to only pick out things that I am so obsessed with that if someone is haunting them they'll appreciate how much I adore this item that's exactly it you're giving it a good home and appreciating it and loving it the way

Paranormal Experiences and Childhood Memories

they probably want it to be loved right yes rather than like finding something randomly and perhaps it not wanting to go home with you yeah like every time I find something I feel cuz I'm you know

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I'm a kind of clutter person but I'm very like intentional with what I put in my house so it does feel like like fortuitous that I found this thing and maybe it's like speaking to me somehow and know it the object or the person who inhabits it knows that I will like cherish it I know that's so corny but no it's so special well and also so have your cats or any animals ever reacted to anything you've brought in I'm almost like disappointed cuz no I mean actually you know what wait now that I think about it I did have a old vintage bro on once and I was holding my cat Mo and he's very gentle with me but he saw the brooch and he did freak out and scratched my face like trying to get out of my arms oh I never even connected it to the brooch oh my God okay you have a haunted brooch now you have to there you go do some paranormal tests do some investigations bring it around all the animals see what

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happens so it sounds like you haven't really had many paranormal experiences but perhaps want to yeah I did as a child but not on as adult so and I'm not saying I want to because I feel like inviting that stuff into my life just like yeah sure sure no don't do that but when I was a kid I had a couple experiences that I as a like rational adult who hasn't had any experiences I do still have a hard time kind of like dismissing outright do you want to share with us what happened sure yeah so I'll preface this by saying no matter what you say we're going to fully be like that's a ghost story 100% that oh I'm the same way even though I'm so skeptical I'm like no that's true that's right yeah we like never question it for like seven years we've recorded this podcast and like we'll hear a noise and we're like 100% a ghost we're haunted oh no what did we do there it is I'm always waiting for it too and like cuz I was listening to you guys talk about your houses and they're like from the 1700s and [ __ ] and mine is

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like I'm like it's old but it's Los Angeles old so it's like from the 1940s that is actually very old for Los Angeles well and also Los Angeles is such a transient Community too that think about how many people have probably gone through how many energies have lived in that home totally and it looks like it should be haunted it's kind of got like like old kind of Cape Cod Vibes with like Dormer windows and all these like you know Diamond wind like window panes and stuff like that it looks like it should be haunted and I'm like okay like let's do it but we've been here for like 3 years and I haven't gotten any that's a great time I've gotten Positive Vibes so maybe they're enjoying you if there are any ghosts there so they're just like hanging out chilling yeah right I'm doing okay I guess I also totally believe in like I'm I'm going off topic now but like there are like people who are haunted so it's not necessarily the house you're looking at one of them Karen is 100% alled yeah you have an open like mind to it right and that's probably why I honestly have

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no idea my parents every house that they lived in since the time that basically they were pregnant with me was haunted they have all these stories of like me as a baby interacting with people and my earliest memories are like seeing Shadow beings and ghosts and people in our home so I don't know why I I didn't like actively choose ask for it yeah and it's not like I'm like some psychic medium where I'm like can actively choose to like communicate with the dead or or see people all the time it just happens the plane is thinner for you somehow I guess so I don't know I think that is true for children too which is why I'm kind of like all right maybe I did have experiences because there's just a couple moments where like as a child where I saw I you know I call it like a spirit and sometimes it would be really clearly a person like holographic kind of yeah like full body Apparition but clearly not like of yeah and not where they should be too cuz I you know I would be in my room with the door closed and this

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one time I had a bunk bed and I was like on my bunk bed and then out of the corner of my eye like I saw my what I thought was my brother jumping up to like surprise me and then I look and he's not in the room the door is closed oh bunk pits are so scary in that way that's horrible yeah and then one time I was laying in bed at night and um you know we had one of the um closets that the push door what are those called like um rollers theing yeah byold yeah and one of them just [ __ ] started opening and I didn't have cats I was a little kid we didn't have cats when I was little so it's always closets too like closets basements and attics are just hot spots and bathrooms I guess anywhere can be haunted I guess anywhere yeah the corner of your bedroom yeah truly anywhere but closets I feel like as a little kid it's it's the classic like closet or under your bed but it is so true that so many people like even in adulthood so many stories start with something weird happening in their the closet yeah as like a rational adult I'm

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like I definitely had a wild imagination as a kid and I would be daydreaming constantly and in my own world and I would like read a lot of fanciful fiction and I just would go into a different place so in my mind sometimes I'm just like well you know that was it was all my imagination but but I'm still happy it happened if that's true it's kind of cool I mean this in like the most complimentary way ever but you seem like the type of person who as a kid

Ouija Boards and Sleepover Stories

like did with craft for like with with friends and brought the Ouija board to the sleepover oh yeah were you yeah you know 80s the 80s and 90s and it was like that's what you [ __ ] did at sleepovers and like they let us watch anything on TV it was ter like constantly terrifying so it was just like normal did anything scary ever happen when you like at sleepovers or anything never I'm so sorry never which is why I'm like something would have happened something should have happened

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but yeah or like the ghosts are like they're scaring themselves enough we don't need to we don't need to step in like I know my friend was moving the Ouija board this the one time that the Ouija board moved I'm like now looking back like Nicole you are [ __ ] move in that thing he was saying all this like her future and how amazing her future was going to be I'm like girl I love that it's all bad Nicole this s board session I mean her future did become amazing though so maybe it it well maybe it was a GH then maybe it was Nicole's future self coming back to tell her she still plays with Ouija boards would you use a Ouija board now yeah it's so funny like I have no problem with it now we Karen and I were like wherever Ouija boards were created we did a live show there and someone brought us like you know these really special Ouija boards as like gifts oh my gosh and I was like hell yeah so excited and Karen was like those can't go on the plane with us they can't come back with us like what are

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you talking about this is like our Dynamic you Sabrina would be like hell yes and I'd be like oh my God we have to bury this thing in some sort of ritual behind right when she said that I was like well now I can't bring it because if something does happen like the Ouija War but even like my husband Vince who's like he's a very like straight shooter Midwestern like you know normal dude and he was like don't you can't bring that home well you also don't know what happened to the Ouija board before for like it' be one thing if it you created it or like you worked with someone to have it be made but it's another thing to just be gifted one or to happen upon one because you have no clue if people like properly closed it what they did with it if there's anything attached to it so I understand that but to make you feel a little bit better about Ouija boards even though one of our Like rules is that we won't play with them we play with enough Paran us be a rule but now I'm I'm dabbling you've opened yourself up to me boundaries are being pushed I'm

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crossing the boundaries yeah well when you get years and years into a podcast you're like well I need more like more material so this is [ __ ] literally did that the other day I went from being like I will never play a paranormal game to us trying to like enter the astral plane through this like Paranormal game so I mean that just sounds kind of like something to do you know F yeah it was fun we quit early though because we were getting a lot of EVPs from ghosts telling us to stop so I was like let's listen yeah but Ouija boards were originally created as a date night activity so it was supposed to be for romance to like kind of get to know the other person better to it was like a fortune teller sort of thing for like date night to be like what's our future are we going to get married how many kids are we going to have that's cute yeah that can't be haunted that can't take a plane down you would hope I also feel like it's like whatever power you assign to it if you have such fear of something you kind of give it that power right

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that's such a good point where you you're signing this thing yeah and really it's your own your own wavelength that you're bringing out right that you're like putting into it right that's a whole other thing is like are par I mean we fully believe in ghosts but there I feel like there are some paranormal encounters that are just like our brains creating something and using a part of our brain that we don't really understand yet yeah definitely it's hard to hallucination well yeah but it's reminding me of when I was in Middle School we had like like this one sleepover in middle school and all of us saw these glowing red eyes from the front Administration office like the shadow of a person and glowing eyes and we all booked it out of there told our teacher he's like the off he went and checked cuz he was like oh my god did someone break in to the middle school or whatever and it was locked up and then he started telling us about group hallucinations and how people can all have like a mass hallucination which I still don't understand because I'm like isn't that in and of itself kind of paranormal and spooky that like everyone can syn up on one sort of thing the universal Consciousness yes yeah that's

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such a good point cuz like we don't totally understand how the brain works and there are ex like levels that we don't tap into you know maybe more so as children before we know we're not supposed to or we exactly we like lose it because we don't use it I do think that there's something there of like you know like the um what's the really great scary movie with Nicole Kidman others that feels to me so correct agreed you agreed where it's like we're all living here at once and sometimes something slips through yeah I just I love that idea or like Matilda where oh my God I lovea was my leg where she just like had to tap into this power yeah that's exact but I I wanted to be Matilda when I was so would make sense every time I see a piece of chocolate cake I'll never not think of that one scene Bruce Bruce Bruce Bruce we had a we had a live show last year on Halloween and I dressed up as Miss trunch bable and you were Zach

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be's and no one recognized us as we were like walking we were like at the bar drinking before the show yeah like like two School teachers or something yeah yeah we were just hideous enough um okay so in terms of what you would do for paranormal experiences now like you said you would use a Ouija board would you stay overnight in a haunted location yes I kind of want to would you sleep or would you like stay awake waiting for something to happen it depends on if I'm alone I think yeah but I know my husband wouldn't [ __ ] do it so I'd have to kind of we'll do it with you yeah I don't think he would do it like I think even if we like we were looking at houses and they were like this one might be haunted he'd be like we're not living here but wa what but but you don't believe in ghosts like yeah but now know that so he does believe a little bit he's scared yeah yeah yeah he's unwilling to find out if his belief needs to be tested he doesn't

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want to doesn't want to see no I I think he's a little more afraid than he lets on I think that's a common theme for a lot of people who don't believe right I mean even when a ghost experience is a positive experience I feel like a lot of the times it's startling or scary at first because you don't expect right like your experience gejo where like you thought your brother was popping up but nope well it also like shakes your understanding of life and reality completely right CU you have to change your mindset on unless you're like you know 100% it's like your mindset has to now change the same with like seeing an alien or like a spacecraft it's like now you have to change everything you thought you knew about reality and that's terrifying and so that was a terrifying experience when really it could have been positive yeah do you believe in aliens um yeah but I don't know I don't know if I believe that

Aliens and Time Travel Theories

anyone's ever sure had experiences but who the [ __ ] am I say like the same thing with ghosts like yeah sure right

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ABS there was a theory going around I think it was like last year about the idea that aliens are actually us from the future and it's some sort of you know like glitch in time and figuring out how to go back yeah and people were giving all of these examples of like how humans could evolve and develop based on the direction that things are going with like global warming and and stuff like that and it did make sense the appearances of these like gray aliens with how humans could potentially like we get like big dark eyes because we'd like have to live underground so our eyes would be like more more nocturnal yeah it was it was really interesting and I was like oh that makes sense because who's more obsessed with us than us right so like of course it' be humans going back to like observe humans observe how stupid we are yeah yeah like I I guess there's like not a lot of like theories that I would outright like when it comes to Paranormal stuff or that kind of thing that I would outrightly be

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like I don't believe in that or know because what the [ __ ] who what do I know like I'm really open to the idea that yeah our brains are not our brains do way more than we use them for and reality no one knows exactly what that is and why and why we're even conscious and alive and so who knows but yeah but back to the [ __ ] haunted house I say yes right now in the light of day in my safe little non- haunted house but put me in an Airbnb in like [ __ ] Virginia yeah and I'd be like hell no you hear the whistle outside of the door right especially if you're alone like there's a fun sleepover energy to going to a haunted place with friends and it has to be more than two people cuz I feel like you and I together I'm more scared than sometimes we we go to paranormal places with like a couple other friends and I'm way less scared when it when the group is larger HP each other up yeah you have more protection there's like an extra person to walk to the bathroom with y yeah oh yeah the

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first time we went to we went to The Conjuring house when was like 3 years ago now and Kar and I would not go to the bathroom alone like we would go together every time every time and then when we went to the Lizzy Barden house we started going to the bathroom by ourselves we grew up we we got braver with the second nice Second Adventure okay this is Paranormal adjacent but it doesn't have to be your answer doesn't have to be paranormal because I know you know a lot about obviously like the world of True Crime and some really interesting cases but is there one conspiracy theory that you truly believe

Conspiracy Theories and JFK

in that you could argue for oh my God I think that the the assassination of JFK is one that I could go in Loops for for the rest of my life yeah where if I'm talking to a person who has a theory I'm like yeah totally and like right there with them and then jump to the next the I'm like yeah no that's the like it's so hard for me to believe that that one is as simple as you know the government wants you to think it is especially

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because if you look at like all the kennedies and like how many of them have died in weird ways and then like the Maryland monoe connection all of those things I've seen the photos too it's like it's one of those things where like you accidentally sometimes click a little too far down the rabbit hole and then suddenly you're looking at actual crime scene photos and I yes that was really I hated seeing Jackie like reach for part of his brain I didn't know what I was looking at until was described under the photo and I was like I've seen a lot of those I do think the theory that like that makes a lot of sense to me that I like have followed is that the CIA agent who was covering their car accidentally fired his gun I think it was either like the second shot that doesn't make any sense how it would come from The Book Depository came from you know a panicked CIA agent who was trying to protect him and accidentally shot which I understand like human like the fear in that moment

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yeah that happening and then also like why the government wouldn't want to you know make that public it's just bad on a lot of levels so but I also think they wanted him dead so I don't yeah yeah I think it's this is assination where there's a photo of this like one mystery woman that they've all there's that the Babushka lady yes jeez I know you two are both deep in the conspiracy I that my entire algorithm it's just conspiracy theories the whole way down oh my God they rabbit holes I go down like I just watched the new zodiac documentary oh yeah and like just the rabbit hole after that yeah it's like all night we went down a rabbit hole of Our Own in preparation for speaking to you we did oh no so you've heard of the game true truths and a lie right mhm we're going to play that but a paranormal Edition so we're going to we have three categories okay and we're going to show you three different

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things in each category and you have to pick which one you think is haunted okay and you know which one is haunted we know we know actually we don't know I'm so excited because we we kind of like

Two Truths and a Lie: Haunted House Edition

split up looking for items so I don't know yours you don't know mine I don't know yours okay we can all play this will be kind of a test of like intuition and if we can get the Vibes right totally no I'm like taking this very seriously and I'll be very disappointed if I get it wrong I'm going to show you three houses and I'm going to tell you like a little bit about them okay and then at the end of the three I'll let you and kren decide which one is the haunted one okay so we're going to start with this one which is the Alam Queen an which is an option in California if you're looking to move um it is one of the most photographed victorians in alamaa California and for just $2.35 million this beautiful queenan home built in 1893 offers a wraparound toured porch four bedrooms why do I feel like $2.35 million doesn't feel that much for

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California and that SI house huge house it's a huge house this is not like Los Angeles La yeah four bedrooms and 2 and a half baths it has a full basement and original features like stained glass windows wall coverings hand painted Crown moldings pocket doors and a large backyard with a Mary Shelly approved Victorian era Garden gorgeous so those are three photos of it it is stunning it's stunning it's like imp perfect condition and totally yeah it's renovated I look at a lot of listings for just for fun and like if this were near me in Pasadena in California this would be like six million probably easily yeah it's incredible okay okay so this is house one house two is called the enen mansion and it is in Troy New York MH it's a historic home being sold for a very spooky price can you guess 6.66 million actually it's cheap cheaper oh but it is $

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666,666 ah no come on you guys if it wasn't haunted to begin with they're trying to make it haunted right now they're trying to yeah totally that's hilarious I feel like this is when Nicholas Cage comes knocking and he like he's like I'll buy it yeah cuz weirdly he buys haunted well I guess most new own the Laie Mansion in New Orleans but then he went broke and sold it but he pre- purchased a what's it called like a plot in the cemetery in New Orleans for himself wow he's got to buy Theus murder mansion that's been for sale here for like forever so long no one will touch it yeah oh okay yeah this house is gorgeous it looks like it should be in New Orleans it does yeah okay so it is a creepy price but has four beds two baths it's 3,800 Square ft but um as you can tell in the photo that it might need some work this is the classic haunted house picture where there's one single chair it's either

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like a wheelchair or an old chair or like a hospital bed in the middle of middle of the room it's like whoever staged this is like really going with the idea yeah they're leaning in it is a national registered Historic Landmark and there are new windows wood floors and apparently in the primary bedroom there are heated floors so that's exciting ooh um and there's a stunning balcony upon which to watch uh your neighbors or if you like to rock in a rocking chair and read a paper you can do that too and it has a greenhouse in the backyard oh ooh so we have a garden in the first one a greenhouse and the second one yeah nice plant people okay now the third one I'm just going to show you the picture first oh my okay I love it I feel like we're like doing cheap old houses you know scrolling oh yes yes I'm always so tempted to buy those houses when they post them and then I look up where they are and I'm like this is the middle of [ __ ] it's the middle of nowhere and I have

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zero DIY skills so you're like this hole that just drops into the basement I'm not sure I with this one it's fun to dream about but in reality it would be very difficult I'll buy the flip version right right have someone else do the work for you well then you don't want to buy this one but it's called the Turner mansion and it's in new vineyard Maine it's a real fix rapper if you can't tell but for just $59,000 you could own the project of a century for the project that will take you a century and it comes with everything inside so there are like in this next photo like it comes with all of these old books and the furniture and while it's pretty dilapitated I kind of think that part's cool yeah it's 10 bedrooms two baths 5,500 Square ft and it was built in 1870 and once was the home to an esteemed member of the society his name was Dr Turner and I found an article about Dr Turner from February 10th 1905

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and it's such a sad article because Dr Turner's cattle got tuberculosis even all his cattle had to be slaughtered wow that's so sad that's so sad oh my God yeah I did not realize animals were afflicted by TV as well yeah there was a whole article about it and it was like everyone send your best wishes to Dr Turner a yeah 10 bedrooms like I know I'm not supposed to be buying them but this is the one I want for sure yeah cuz like also Imagine like going through each book and you know he hid like weird notes and [ __ ] in the books 100% And then you probably have ghost cows roaming your property I'm kind of into that love cows yeah like that's the haunting I want ghost cows yeah okay so I'll show you the three again so this is the enin mansion the Alama California or the Turner house I mean it has to be the Turner house I

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wanted to like not pick the most obviously haunted one you know what I mean where it's like yeah yeah just because it's old and creepy doesn't mean it'll be haunted so I'm going to guess I'm wrong but no I'm with you I was thinking number three as well especially because it was in main right it's the main one right yeah and number two just felt like they were trying so hard to be paranormal and also like leaving all this the stuff that's still in there like the ghost is going to get pissed at you for like getting rid of its stuff that's true yeah and here's the thing I feel like we're wrong because of the way you are wrong but here's the thing is like I'm pretty sure like by looking at these houses and the history of these houses they all have potential to be haunted that's true right I think we're not wrong we're just not as right as yeah whatever the right because only one of them is known to be haunted okay okay and it is oh my God the enen Mansion so they're going for it oh yeah I'm going to give you a little bit more of the history of

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the ghost of this one okay so it used to be listed for $444,500 oh they were trying to bring some good energy number yeah and this is like not scary haunted I don't know why they decided to change the price because it's also been listed like since May of 2023 and they upped the price $226,000 yeah that's not how that's not how real estate Works no right but perhaps just to get some attention you know maybe okay but so this house is haunted but actually has a really cool beautiful history it dates back six generations of one family this woman who listed it Michelle Bell her great-grandfather came over from Bavaria Germany and built the home in 1890 and then he passed the house down generation after generation Michelle's grandfather ran a Speak Easy in the house during the 1920s that's cool oo cool ghosts an Infamous gangster named Jack Legs Diamond used to frequent the house so it's

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believed his Spirit haunts the home sadly a woman named Shirley who was renting a room in the house fell down the basement stairs and passed away and Michelle believes that nine different Spirits haunt the house three men are in the basement she believes her grandfather and her son and Shirley also haunt the house and she basically like her mom I guess passed away in the home as well and she felt very much like the house has lived its life within her family for long enough and so now she's trying to sell it and it's listed as an Airbnb I think while they're trying to sell it oh so you can take a spin if you're a potential buyer and see like if you VI with ghost here or we could all go and do a paranormal investigation let's do it I'll meet you guys there doesn't nine ghost seem like too many like I'll take one ghost but I feel like you'll be up all freaking night if you get nine right ghosts well and also do they all get along like can they all interact with each other so they all have their own stick and it's like oh there's the it's

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like the show ghosts it is yeah they're are oh my God I love different timelin right like the basement ghost stay in the basement yeah okay I don't know I mean someone who stayed there I guess was sleeping in or was in one of the bedrooms and saw on the bed like in indentation form and almost looked like someone sat down and then went to lay on the bed I would not want to sleep there do you guys do the thing that I do like where I'm like first can you make sure that there isn't a gas leak because like Mary Roach said and spooked like a lot of times it's just that your brain is being kind of swirled by the fact that there's like a carbon monoxide leak or like your inner ear is being [ __ ] with somehow which changes senses or [ __ ] with your senses so much we do try to debunk a lot of stuff like the house that I grew up in in Vermont was very haunted my parents built it but every time something happened we would

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all just pause and immediately try to recreate what happened like okay everyone stop like move back to what you were just doing like let's see if we can throw that shadow let's see if whatever we stepped on like makes that noise let's see if this thing Falls and we pretty much almost never could how fun but it also depends on what you're experiencing because it's like one thing if a picture frame Falls and you're like okay well like maybe something happen that's not carbon monoxide Point yeah but it's yeah it's it's another thing if you're like watching a black mist like move down your hallway right into your room like I always kind of Wonder like get your [ __ ] checked get a professional in there to make sure you're not being slowly poisoned and and like seeing things because yeah you're not getting enough oxygen to your brain which I wonder like how many how many hauntings can be blamed on that right so like the house that pay and I moved into the previous owner told us that the like faucet downstairs like just goes off all like randomly all the time and they had a ton of plumbers and professionals come

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look at it and they're like there's nothing wrong with it and it kind of happens when you're having a conversation and it's almost like the ghost is contributing oh my God I love that they're just here for a good time yeah it's they're like me too someone talk to me someone talk to me please I like the idea of ghost pets too though like I I'll take a ghost C I love that so in my house in Vermont we ourselves like my my family had a a dog named wrinkles and he was this like black dog a mut looked kind of funky but then there was this other black lab that everyone saw except for anyone in my family my Mom finally saw the dog like years and years later but so many people who came into our house would talk about the black lab and one person who had these kind of like psychic abilities that we didn't know until they disclosed it to us it was one of like my mom's friend's girlfriend the dog walked by her and kissed her like licked her leg the ghost oh ghost dog so sometimes it's

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really nice I know they can be really nice cuz K has also had some terrifying hauntings I did it was a very spooky house yeah that's incredible I have some spooky apparel to present to you cuz we know you love your clothes oh yeah I'm a vintage clothing gir and like I don't get stuff tailored I'm because I'm lazy but also like that sounds like a lot of work and but also I love the idea of like this whoever owned this in the ' 50s was the exact same size as me give or take like a padded bra that is actually really beautiful I love that it makes me wonder about I don't know if you believe in past lives and reincarnation but it does make me wonder if you have some past life connection to that era or to like maybe like one of the people of the dresses that you own definitely I love that idea I do and

Vintage Fashion and Past Lives

like I definitely when was a little kid like got along really well with like grandparents and like older people and just kind of was interested in that and I wonder if there's like past lives is another thing I'm like sure why the [ __ ] not so yeah how spooky would it be if

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you realized everything that you've collected belonged to one specific person well she had a problem with shopping it was you in a past life and her style was real weird like from Grandma to like weird haunted child yeah she's eclectic it's a great combo she's very eclectic okay we're gonna start with a vintage amethyst poison ring o or pillbox ring it's currently up for sale on eBay all three items that I'm going to present are from eBay so a poison ring it contains a hidden container underneath a bezel which became popular in Western Europe during the Middle Ages to hold poison and made it easy for people to slip poison into other people's like food or drinks or sometimes collected poison or like kept poison on them to use on themselves should they be in a various PS I want this yeah it's very it's creepy one problem with the poison ring is in order

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to have an actual lethal dose of poison that doesn't really fit in the amount of space that they have underneath the ring so while it's called the poison ring most people actually used it for other reasons so they would they would have different Essentials in there they would keep little keepsakes some perfume portraits of loved ones locks of hair teeth bones of the Dead feel like ashes would go in there cocaine you know absolute cocaine it's a total cocaine ring it's a total cocaine ring people use this for various reasons and now there's plenty of them online that people can shop this one was handmade in Mexico it is made of sterling silver it

Haunted Objects: The Poison Ring and More

has an amethyst Stone on it and I'm sure a haunted history so could this be the haunted item this is number one okay number two we're going to go to a 1908 Edwardian evening gwn and this gown is beautiful though I do

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not think it would fit me oh my goodness oh wow that's like Gilded Age straight up I this person was petite these things don't like survive either right you know that's gorgeous you're reminding me George like you just talking about that reminded me of when we were in New York I was literally about to say this okay we went into a vintage shop in New York City like maybe 5 years ago and we were just chatting with the guy who owns it and he was like do you want to come upstairs and we were like is this where we get murdered but we followed him and upstairs was an entire shop it's like not really a shop you have to have like special permission to go there but it's filled with authentic like vintage items that people rent out for photo shoots or for like television and movies so we weren't allowed to touch a single thing anything everything was so delicate like barely kept together but it was incredible it was so cool it was so cool that's amazing this is something that would have been there yeah take me there

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yeah okay so this is a 1908 lafier evening gown it was owned by melee margerie and this was her prized possession and owning anything like this at the time and from this highly coveted Parisian designer it was sure to make you stand out against the crowd and so how lucky was melee that she got to wear that I like thatly did M yeah it's beautiful I was like searching the pronounced names.com yeah oh my God I hear you I'm sure I'm still saying it wrong she's going to come back and haunt you for that I know while this dress was usually just seen in magazines melee got to purchase and wear this dress it's hand embroidered it has sequins all over it glass pins rhinestones there are two large birds which on the very right hand photo you can see kind of like a depiction of a bird breathing fire against this turquoise material very Hunger Games it is it's interesting cuz there's like a

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fire breathing bird but then there's also a lot of little like gently embroidered flowers just like dusting the rest of the Gown yeah so the dress is a stunner and clearly a very important dress to have so could melee still be attached to this dress or the person who made it like the I'm guessing woman who crafted it so beautifully well this makes me think of like my grandma and great grandmother like made all of their own dresses and clothes and my mom has a couple of them and they're tailored so specifically to their bodies and like so they don't fit me but like I love them so much and I just think it's so cool and like a lost art for people to make their own clothes absolutely I wish I could use a sewing machine and like can't but like if you befriend a designer like I know obviously Stevie Nix lives a very different life than the rest of us but Stevie Nix has all of her clothes specifically made for her that is it's so disappointing too because you can buy P like vintage patterns like

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sewing patterns my sister does this and like she knows somehow she got taught how to use a sewing machine and I didn't I'm really mad about it but she like we make her own little like shifts and like vintage clothes so what yeah does she ever make anything for you absolutely not cuz she's a sister she's my big sister she doesn't do yeah she's a sister why would she right yeah okay our last option so we've had we've had the poison ring we just had the Edwardian evening gown and now we have an 1880s morning Cape oh wow this is a morning Cape from the Victorian era having belonged to a little girl named Maria Maria was a young child during this time in the 1880s and she was very eager to explore the world around her she was a little kid she was excited to go out and play she had lost her mom when she was a young child and so one of the items that belonged to her mom that she liked playing with and wearing was this cape a she was wearing this cape when she went out to climb a tree one

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day and she fell from the tree and she passed away wearing this this is so tragic I know I mean obviously this is the most haunted thing I've I know like absolutely it's death upon death yeah and it's like there's a picture of her like a lock of her hair photo of her you're not fooling me after the house thing like it's the most obvious one I know that and also this one has such like a clear story and history yeah okay obvious ly this is the yes I'll tell you a little bit more this The Story Goes a little bit more in depth and it's pretty tragic so basically like she fell from this highest branch of the tree and fell down but she didn't pass away right away I pray to God that this story is like not real and that this is just some like madeup thing that some psychic told this person who's selling it on eBay but

The Tragic Tale of Maria's Cape

apparently she laid on the ground for hours until she passed away her dad was inside not too far away but her dad had suffered from a heart attack that very

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same day so he was dead inside the house when holy [ __ ] she fell and was injured so like everyone died at the same time basically yeah everyone died at the same time which is also kind of beautiful in like a really grotesque morbid way it's very Victorian for sure yeah definitely yeah so some believe that Maria haunts this morning Cape they say that she is very curious still and she will reach out and touch you so people who've like owned the cape will report feeling somebody touch them objects will move around them and they'll hear a little girl speaking she loves to see people's reactions to her so she is very active I love her yeah I do too and originally this was purchased from a collector who claimed that she heard Maria say a blood curdling help in her ear and also would scream throughout the house that's un doesn't yeah the touching and like her liking seeing

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people's reaction is enjoyable MH but the screaming would be hard to live with we're g to go no screams yeah it's also sad because it's like is she being forced to relive this moment of falling and dying yeah I don't know would you buy this Georgia absolutely [ __ ] not absolutely not no way no no no in a million years no I think it's it's $300 not terrible for a haunting you're paying to be terrified if you could buy the ring I think the ring is like 60 bucks I'll take the ring I actually would by the ring the the dress is a few grand so okay oh my God and where are you gonna wear that seriously like around your house around your house yeah recording the podcast yeah you'll be you'll be haunting your own house in this you can haunt the new uh MFM Studios the exactly right Studio there you go it needs it I would love to be a not right now but like I want to be a ghost and like I want to be that type of

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ghost yeah the screaming one or the pretty dressed one well I want to scream and be in a pretty dress why not post I mean you can do that now if you want to that's true I'm picturing you as like being this really like sultry beautiful image of a woman in this dress that appears to people and then you just kind of like slink up to them and when you get this close to that is scary that's something you would do that's a goal in in my afterlife to scare people yeah that's good how would you spend your afterlife Georgia if you had like five years that they were like you can be a ghost for these five years what would you do and I have to like stay on the planet yeah and like okay oh that's a good question um I would like to be in an old beautiful Victorian but I want there to be a lot of cats I just want I want to like join forces with the cats to scare the [ __ ] out of whoever lives there just for fun and then maybe there's like a one little kid who's like really cool and like we can be buddies I love that you know and like I can kind of use them to like

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scare their parents and be like Georgia says that you know something terrifying I didn't eat those cookies Georgia did and they're like sure yeah oh being like the spooky imaginary friend that is a that's a goal that is that's fun yeah all right adding that to my goal for the afterlife your list of all the things that you want to do when you die yeah I also would like to like be a demon for a minute yeah I bet that'd be interesting be kind of fun I love that idea where it's like cuz I [ __ ] hate the list of like five places you have to go before you die and it's like why do I have to die in these stories why can't it's like five places you have to go right I hate that it's always like before you're dead but it's like five places you have to go when you die yeah here's your afterlife bucket list it's like less aggressive I'll Moonlight as a demon Georgia will Moonlight as an imaginary friend yeah what are you going to do Karen probably eat anything I [ __ ] want to oh you could live in a bakery a

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bakery and I can't freaking have gluten so I definitely would go hard I would and and I'd be so thin I would fit in those Victorian and Edwardian era dresses while I do it there's no such thing as calories when you're dead no I'm invisible so I can I can wear whatever I want I can eat whatever I want that's what I would do actually this reminds me of a listener who sent us like an email that was like I used to feed my dead Grandma cheese and she like

The Final Category | Haunted Collectibles & Grandpas

used to be found at the top of her stairs with like slices of cheese and her family be like what are you doing and she's like I'm giving Grandma cheese but the cheese would disappear and Grandma was known to love this cheese when she was alive so she was still munching on cheese in the afterlife okay so she was her Grandma's supplier her cheese supplier this is a great transition and Georgia you mentioned loving grandparents so our next category is Grandparents is which haunted grandparent do you want show me some photos wait serious no they're I mean it is Grandpa they're

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haunted objects and this is Grandpa okay it's so funny I literally wrote I go I don't know why Georgia but it seems like you are someone who really wants to own a grandpa doll and I think I nailed it I never had a grandpa I never met a grandpa so this is like my me now being like this could be your grandpa yeah okay so you can now own this Grandpa the bidding is starting at $9 he's pre-owned but handmade in the United States he's like dollhouse size he's 6 in he's made of composition with sculpted hands and has the original ladderback chair that he was made with his head separates from his body in case you want to just have his head okay um he has gray hair round glasses and is dressed as you see in a blue suit with a line jacket a vest and there's tiny little bead buttons yeah he's got Death of a Salesman Vibes totally yeah yeah he also kind of looks like Toby from the office oh my God

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totally like a voodoo doll that someone made of Toby yeah yeah the seller also has 100% positive feedback and has sold 23,000 items and they're saying this is definitely haunted well that's the question is he oh do we get okay because there's we're we're going to give three options okay okay good good good okay the next option is prosthetic human eyes oh oh my God priced anywhere from $35 to $115 you could be the proud owner of prosthetic human eyes not to be used as actual human prosthetic eyes of course these are list but they were previously used unclear yeah how do you even clean these do you clean them like Dentures you just stick them in one of those like you just suck on it and spit it out I'm imagining the scene from like uh Toy Story 2 where that guy is cleaning the Woody doll to be a part of the club collection I do not recall that scene at all pay and I just rewatched like every

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single Toy Story other day but this is a perfect addition to your vintage medical collection if you have one and ocular Prosthetics date back to as early as 2,900 BC and while they're often referred to as glass eyes these ones are and most of them are made of medical grade plastic H these prosthetic eyes have a five-star revieww for what for what purpose I see better with these eyes in me I just keep swallowing them and I and I can see into the future Georgia stop putting those prosthetic eyes in your mouth no I don't know why I'm obsessed with that they kind of look like do you remember those plastic toys that You' flip inside out and then they pop the poppers yeah the poppers they kind of look like that they do yeah but there is something like about a smooth and kind of rounded shape that you do kind of want to put it in your mouth yeah okay see I'm not crazy I want to suck on this right looks like candy it does Okay the third option is

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this goddess box with really poor quality photos but I didn't take them so despite the poor quality of these photos it is a beautiful antique box with a green style portrait of the side profile of a woman the bidding starts at $70 or you can buy now for $120 the seller is offering to throw in two surprise antiques with the purchase Oh that's fun what's a goddess box is that a thing I don't know about I really couldn't find much about it I think it's just like supposed to be a portrait of a goddess on on top of it God God God goddess goddess god goddess goddess God God God God this seller also has a 100% positive feedback and has sold 57 items online hm it's got to be the grandpa right okay you say grandpa I'm gonna vote goddess box and the reason is because of the poor quality photo because sometimes I feel like when people are trying to offload haunted objects that they're kind of scared of the the listing is made in haste ooh

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okay that's a good point yeah they're not like spending a lot of quality time with the item right or the ghosts won't sit still to take a a clear photo right it can't be captured okay I'm gonna go old man you're going Grandpa I'll go goddess the correct answer is the goddess ah yeah and you want to know what the it's the obvious one how do I obious try to be interesting Sabrina tricked us with the well we tricked ourselves with the first one we thought it wouldn't be right yeah I purposely tried to trick you both can you guess what the two surprise antiques are that come with this uh sadness and it's like the typical haunted thing longing so a doll two haunted dolls Oh two haunted dolls and okay this is the listing and I actually love the listing so much I'll let you react okay this is a very powerful antique box inhabited by a strong female Spirit who had much success with others since acquiring this item people perceived me as more

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attractive and it was easier for me to attain what I wanted mainly in relationships this being said my finances improved as well as well as my overall luck if you have any questions please message me I will send two antique haunted dolls that are positive and protective I will also send offerings inside the box and instructions I am not responsible for any actions you or anyone near the object of decides to take or anything that occurs to whoever purchases this object or anyone near it that's going to be a hell no for me yeah I'm a little hesitant too because it's like oh well like my luck improved but I don't want this object anymore you take it and I'm not responsible for what happens to you it's like okay this thing made my life so much better get it out of here please it also feels like it's written by the ghost who like wants to go haunt someone else who like killed their owner and now needs a new vessel I am really really good luck listen it's going to go great that's why the photos are like that

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they've never taken a selfie before it was challenging I definitely would not buy that one no no no no definitely not I don't trust that listing at all no no I wouldn't do it okay so out of the three haunted objects which ones would we all opt to purchase the house the morning C the house for sure the house you get the most bang for your buck with the house I guess that's true yeah you can airb and be it you never have to experience the hauntings yourself you just monze it right that's what I was going to say the internet loves a freaking like remodel right you just immediately get that influencer money exactly and then we'll be able to afford that really pretty dress that we'll never wear right right perfect I liked this game this was I want to keep playing but we don't have anything else I know it was really fun to just like look on Craigslist and eBay and the amount of haunted items on there they're mostly dolls it was actually kind of challenging to find something that wasn't a doll yeah like dolls and clowns are just like always going to be

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terrifying yes do you own any vintage dolls or anything I have like a Cy like a vintage porcelain like little baby Cy doll and I actually I got two at an estate sale they're like undressed but they're like these really pretty like antique porcelain oh like cool dolls that are like they're like roped together so they're their limbs are kind of floppy but my cat knocked one one of them off of the um shelf as cats do yeah so that shattered oh no and I kept it in this little tray because it looks really freaking cool as like this shattered oh my gosh haunted antique doll will you send us a picture I want to see I really want to see this I'll take a photo of it and it to you guys okay perfect if we were to ever like say hey we have this haunted object that's we've experienced like really positive things do you want it Georgia would you take it um probably not Sabrina has an object that is supposedly haunted by a ghost cat yeah

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oh okay I have my cat's ashes here too like oh that's sweet I'm ready for it yeah I don't know I just feel like the energy for one person could be different for another and then having the expectation of that being haunted to me is just like inviting something yeah in that might not go as you plan right yeah that's a good point but I'll buy stuff that like could be haunted out of like at an estate sale but I don't think I'd be like yes give that to me now right yeah you're not actively seeking a haunted object in your home right it feels like special if it calls to you yeah then you'll adopt it exactly well you're braver than me for even having a porcelain doll because I feel like that is haunted or not I feel like yes they can be beautiful but I'm also too scared like I'd rather collect clowns than porcelain dolls what yeah you're sick I do love a velvet clown painting I I'd take that oh aren't all of the John Wayne didn't he paint a lot of clown yeah yes but I heard that a lot of them

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he paid people he was in prison with to paint them so he could just keep making money off of them oh wow an entrepreneur and a mass murderer I would never no we kind of felt that I think wasn't there one in we went to the Zack bean museum in Vegas and there were a lot of there was a lot of like art and items owned by these like Mass murderers and serial killers that were on display and it felt very icky it feels bad you know someone tried to give us once at a live show like a little doll made in prison made out of the hair of one of the Manson girls and you know like [ __ ] left it like I think that like kind of that experience was so like this see you don't understand what we're into when we're into True Crime it's like a different it's a different genre the people who want to own the things that

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Killers made that's are not the people that we're talking to no y no you know y she meant well but it was like yeah I don't I don't want this it's I feel like there's a point where like there is sometimes a benefit to just taking those things and then maybe doing some sort of like maybe this is the witchiness coming through me like some sort of ritual to try to like cuz part of me also thinks I have this belief that sometimes when people pass on there's pieces of their soul that can like chip off and be fragmented in different places and so I feel like sometimes when these things just exist and are exploited there's a need to kind of let that item retire permanently so that the person can feel a little bit more whole or their soul can and they can move forward yeah that is very and they don't have to be ghosts whenever I sell this house in the future people are going to do a renovation in the back they're going to be let put in a pool and they're going to be like what are all these weird ass trinkets that are buried all over the

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yard well there are a lot of green rooms at a lot of theaters throughout the country and Australia and the UK that have weird [ __ ] that we left behind we left stuff in like hotel rooms yeah totally that I'm sure the like cleaners are like what the [ __ ] is this there was like a boo doll that someone gave us and like a ho water and champagne that we left at in one hotel room oh my God like we tried to pack as much as we could into to our suitcase but we also yeah planned our tour poorly cuz we didn't know what we were doing and so we went to like 32 shows basically back to back so like we didn't really have much space and some items we like kept with us for a while and then ended up being like okay we got to let let go of this but you know we got some bones I think we're more likely to get bones and stuff yeah this is some some a listener did give us th this doll yeah that's terrifying we had a similar doll that had a happy face on one side and a sad face on the other the most ter it was like from the 70s so it's just like absolutely terrifying

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that reminds me I had a doll that was like a beauty and the beast doll and it was his head flipped and on one side he was the beast on the other side he was the prince oh terrifying oh I kind of like that but it's creepy it's like whatever you're into in that moment you know cuz he's supposed to be you're like romantic the ideal yeah yeah who do you feel like dealing with at that moment I think we gave that doll we were like this is definitely haunted and then we were sending merch to someone and we were like we're going to just put it in someone's box one day and so there I think there's someone out there who we just like jammed in with some sweaters and stuff that's actually amazing God that's it's the golden ticket the my favorite murder golden ticket never shows up at our at our offices again like I'm I quit oh my God Sisterhood of the Traveling doll just keep passing it on oh my gosh so creepy well this was so fun and we're so grateful that we were able to talk with you Georgia I mean I told you this when I met you but like Ken and I were truly so inspired by you and Karen to start our own podcast and like this is just I mean it's such an

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honor to be able to talk to you and have you on our show thank you that's so nice of you guys I love what you're doing this is so much fun and like I really enjoyed speaking with you guys yeah and we promise not to send you any haunted things no you won't get any teeth in the mail from us we'll promise you that I'll send you a photo of the smash doll please do it sounds really beautiful and I feel like you're almost preventing a haunting by still keeping the broken pieces and honoring like together still they're still together so you're doing everything right yeah I'm trying so hard you're a witch too intu a witch yeah yeah definitely amazing thank you guys so much you have a good one you too bye bye bye very spooky