x221. Demon Downstairs, Ouija Board in the Cemetery and Aliens in Beligum

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very spooky take two take two we had technical difficulties on this one yeah I was going to say this time not Paranormal Activity just me well you know what I'm just going to blame everything on Paranormal Activity we can blame it on Paranormal Activity but what happened was my SD card ran out of space in the middle of us recording and I didn't notice and I was like where did the audio go what's happening mhm yeah we got 15 minutes into the episode and then nothing from my side so take two so

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take two also Ken can you tell everyone your ghost story that you told people on campfire stories M okay it's the quickest ghost story ever the other day in my house I was lying down on the couch and Brian had gone into the basement and I could hear him moving down into the basement and then all of a sudden I saw what appeared to be like it looked like two legs but wearing like black or like a dark wash Jean or something coming up and walking from B basically like the path that he would have to to walk back into the room I was in from where he was and I was like that's odd like he was just in the basement he made the quickest speediest return to this room ever and so I'm like watching a few steps happen out of the corner of my eye and then I look up and there's no one there you saw ghost legs so I saw ghost legs in my house and I even was like am I seeing things was this a reflection when I was like trying to move my hair like is my hair doing this I don't know I couldn't recreate

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what I saw so but nothing since then right CU this is two days later we're recording okay nothing since then yeah I don't know I don't feel scared in my house good I I mean I don't think it's scary if anything I think you have a lot of new things happening in your life and either it's someone a guardian some like familial ancestor of yours coming to see you and visit you just like say what's up or there's something in the house it's just like you know checking out what you're doing yeah perhaps I don't know but it's I feel so much more scared like at my parents house if I had to walk downstairs into the kitchen at night I'd be [ __ ] a brick but here I could do it yeah absolutely so that's good that's a positive so far cuz I just haven't had as many experiences here as I've had at my parents house and maybe that will change one day where all need to have the buddy system in place to move about you wake up your creepy kid to be like hey will you come downstairs

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with me I'm thirsty can you can you walk me to the bathroom they're like I'm two years old I'm too get it together but yes I'll hold your hand I

Haunted computer saga

have an update on my haunted computer oh please do tell us because this has been I mean this been since November so October back in October we did anep I mean I'm just going to give the briefest synopsis and like recap we did an episode for pay's podcast talking to death and he pulled out a mini Ouija board we were like oh how cute it could be nothing could go wrong we did it uh nothing happened I put it in my backpack we went to the show my computer didn't turn on wasn't working took it to Apple they were like what the heck it's broken got back backstage put a bag of crystals on it all of a sudden it turned on this has been the Saga and I've just had to take it Apple multiple times and it hasn't worked I got it back yesterday I turned it on and it's doing the same thing and another part of this haunting

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that I am experiencing with my computer is that it just when it turns on just chooses a random date and time I went to go log into Riverside on it and it was like your clock is behind guess what date and time it picked I'm kind of scared to guess was it the same day that we did the Ouija board no it's it makes no sense April 1st 1976 will you have a time traveling computer I guess in the world 1976 so you can't trust your computer anymore you just have to go by like Google Calendar or something yeah and it even like it's not even like the correct time nothing is correct I don't understand why Apple can't figure it out like you've been there so many times and they I'm going back after this get I'm just going to be like hey can you just give me a new one like what's up I have apple care I can't deal with this haunted computer anymore yeah how many more times are you supposed to go in and then say oh I don't know and then it's

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still broken mhm this frustrates me for you I have to do the same thing I have to go into apple and be like why are all of my Apple headphones not working I'm wearing Brian's I've been wearing Brian's headphones for recording these are his workout headphones and he puts little covers over the beets and these ones have milk and cookie designs oh so okay I get to be fun for a few more weeks until I get my headphones fixed uh the technology of two girls one ghosts yes also that's our podcast that's where you are Yep this is two girls one ghost two girls one ghost we are your ghostesses that is Karen I am Sabrina and this is an encounters episode we've recorded this once but you never heard it we're going to record it again so you can hear it and to be honest what because we're recording so many episodes we recorded this it had to have been like a month ago and so I confidently can say I don't

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really remember what the stories are that's true so I do feel like I'm going to come in just as fresh as I did the first time because they have all left my memory okay well I'm going to read a

Landlady's possession story

story from our listener Britney and Britney had messaged us on Instagram now like a month or so ago about her land lady experiencing demonic possession oh okay I do remember this one and I was like can you please email us and also like is she okay but most importantly concerned horrified can but mostly intrigued yes okay so Britney sent us a full email and Buckle in everyone this is like incomplete thought okay hello my spooky lovely ladies I'm finally typing out the email with my landladies experience it's my first time submitting a story so I'm pretty nervous my name is

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Britney yes it's Britney [ __ ] please feel free to use my name as I will literally crap my pants if you read the story on the podcast crap away Britney crap away crap away wear your diapers whether or not you do I'm still so glad you laters are taking the time to read my email so let's get into it you can use all names in this story my land lady's name is Lola and she is a sweetheart in her 60s she rented out her upstairs apartment to my mom and I about 3 or 4 years back while we were moving in I went to my room to set my belongings down when I realized I hadn't even seen the view from my window yet so I head over and I takeen The View and it's a cemetery which was a lovely surprise to me as I naturally am an overall spooky gal and figured wow what a great fit I would love that too Britney you're one of us that's how you house hunt an apartment shop you have to look for the nearest cemetery how quick is your access to spookiness yes also so peaceful too I when I was in Marble Head I went to the old Burial Hill and that

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house that's like right there is one of the most beautiful homes the yellow one right on the bottom of the rock face oh yes stunning that one's so nice I thought wow what a great fit and it is this story doesn't involve the cemetery where just 2 feet away from the edge of my backyard are hundreds of people no no this is far more Sinister last month December 2023 I get home from work and my mom is in the living room enjoying some cheesy Hallmark Christmas movie I sit down and start to relax and I get on my phone and we just chill when all of a sudden we both hear screaming and yelling coming from downstairs we froze we looked at each other and just stayed quiet for a moment the yelling continued followed by Sounds of banging on the walls and at this point we're full on Epping trying to figure out what's going on and this is when we hear that she's not yelling at her husband like we originally

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thought she is yelling the following words in the name of Jesus Christ Our Savior I demand you leave this house she's continuing to scream this and chant other prayers while banging on the walls o chills chills then we heard what sounded like multiple people joining in on the chanting and yelling and it went on for an hour I'm so curious if there were other people there or if it's like from the woman's perspective in her own apartment do you think she thought she was alone but to The Outsider there's like a cacophony of voices from all of her like Spirit guides and protectors oh that's cool or was this just other people trying to help I think it's other people yeah I wanted to be a cacophony of Guardians during this time we heard some crying some Screaming some singing and more banging we were baffled it sounded like they had a whole group of people so we were nervous to try and call her and disrupt whatever service they may be having it happened a few more times followed by by more strange

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things we noticed that our neighbors left gospel music on all day and all night like literally at a decent volume 24/7 yeah that's not a good sign it's one thing if it's like small background noise to let your pets listen to something while you're gone but for it to be loud it's purposeful oh yeah Lola called us and mentioned that she had been dealing with some things but that she wanted to give us a full explanation when she felt more comfortable about opening up about it I'm glad that she called mhm we respected that of course and just wished her well in whatever hardship she may be facing she mentioned that her and her husband would be going to Jamaica for a few days and asked if we could collect any mail she received until she returned a nice well-deserved vacation I thought and so they left but they left the gospel music on the very next day after they left one of their nephews rang my doorbell I opened the door to a young man who was speaking calmly but also I could tell was in a slight panic uh hi I've been ringing

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Lola's doorbell and no one's coming to the door I see their car in the driveway and I'm worried that something may have happened I let him know that they left for Jamaica and that they would be back in a few days he relaxed and thanked me and went on his way but I was like that's kind of strange their trip must have been so sudden that even some of their family members were not aware that they were gone right and also Jamaica is a place that I would think if you were going through what this woman is potentially going through screaming these prayers and trying to rid her place of something that seems dark having the gospel music on I would think Jamaica could be one of the places that you go to get what you need to combat something this intense I'm pretty sure they're from Jamaica too so well even more power in using ancestral like what's already within your culture or even if it's just like we need to get out of here I need to like have a breath of fresh air for a moment yeah so I found it odd that it seemed like they

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didn't mention it to any of their family members and I may be wrong but it feel as like vacations are usually booked a few weeks if not months in advance but this felt very sudden so I started to feel like it wasn't just a vacation anymore kind of what we're just saying after they came back nothing really changed the loud prayers continued the crying and my mom said she even heard animal sounds one time and they do not own any animals we needed a description like what are the animal noises does it sound like little birds does it sound like Hooves scratches finally Lola called and said she was ready to talk so we invited her upstairs we made her a nice hot latte and she spilled the details of everything that she had been experiencing downstairs she said it first started as reoccurring nightmares of countless dead bodies surrounding her she would be waking up at all hours of the night in a panic after these horrible morbid nightmares she started to see a black horse standing outside of her house now I'm not sure if she said it stance as protective of the house or

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threatening the house but nonetheless it became a recurring experience and dream she also noticed a scent that was unusual At first she tried to find the source but could not track it down and as I'm typing this you guys I'm literally hearing her praying loudly below me which means it's continuing this is this is not a we are not getting a happy ending at this email no nothing's tied up with a bat this is active yeah current the smell was of rotten eggs and with these experiences she started to seek help from religious professionals within her Pentecostal church and peers which is where we heard multiple voices there we go okay well and the smell of rotten eggs if anyone is just now tuning in or is somewhat new to the Paranormal World sulfur and rotten eggs that's associated with a demonic presence so she wasn't finding much relief with all of this help and at this Point she realized that the scent was definitely

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following her and she said it even followed her in Jamaica so they came back home and continued to host more prayer groups and continues to see shadows in her home and still she feels a presence and that rotten egg smell is still there she told us that she had asked so many people from many different religions and many different spiritual beliefs for any advice anything that could help her rituals burning herbs spices she has burned Sage paos Santo has blown nutmeg and cinnamon throughout her house she has burned something else that she was given when she was in Jamaica she tried using salt in her doorway she basically practiced a bunch of different rituals that some peers and religious leaders suggested and nothing has worked wow but she is Relentless and will not let this entity have any opportunity to take over she told us that after some time she started to have dreams about this white cat beautiful white cat who would sit and circle her in a protective manner so she took this as a good sign and feels that God is with her and looking over her but she does still feel this presence and it's still there lurking but it may be

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getting weaker she also explained that she's been told to leave the gospel music on all night and keep the lights on in her home all the time which explained why we would wake up in the middle of the night to the lull of Music being played downstairs apparently demons don't like light and noise specifically anything religious so she had been leaving the music on and broadcasting a religious Channel she was told to bang on the walls while demanding her space back and tell the presence you are nothing I am God child and you cannot have me you are weak you are not going to the win I am the child of God and his light is within me she would do this as she slamming the walls trying to get the presence out from within the walls Lola also mentioned that she started to speak in tongues during a prayer session but does not remember what she was saying and listen this is somewhat normal within her religion and sometimes when people are moved and feel the holy spirit inside of them it can cause them to speak in tongues usually there is an interpreter there to translate what the holy spirit is communicating but in l case no one

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knew Latin when this happened to her in her home oh God I hate that it's just scary because it's like an unknown and that you know it's coming from something else too like it's more proof of the Paranormal Activity that you're encountering and experiencing because if no one else understands it no one else knows it is this thing that does exist but there's no knowledge of that thing or I could it could be interpreted more as like The Interpreter that is usually at the Pentecostal church and that group was not there with them so they couldn't decipher it okay yeah if we want to say it's more of the Holy Spirit coming through her not not anything negative um which I would rather believe but it's like how do you decipher I don't know again like how do you know I don't how do you know who's coming through we don't know after this conversation I ran to my room to grab any supplies that I may have and I brought them to her I gave her some palosanto obsidian ston some candles and incense and the following day I got her some dragons blood Sage because someone told me that would be a good herb to

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burn to drive out purely dark energies oh I will say dragon's blood and white copal those two things were when my brother was experiencing a lot of darkness and those hooded figures kind of like walking in a circle and chanting in his childhood bedroom and that activity would kind of continue to return every six or so months for a few years using the white copal and we used a dragon's blood resin oh those two things were the only things that would actually clear the space and make it silent for like six months okay there you go well that was a good move Brit my neighbor Lola is still experiencing this entity lurking in her home and following her around but she does feel like there will be an end soon she believes that the entity has slowly started to grow tired as she has been really putting up a hard fight as of right now things are still happening but she continues to pray loudly and demand her space back I have confidence in her and I think she eventually will overcome this presence she is one tough Jamaican lady who I

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personally would not want to mess with so the demon really picked the wrong boss [ __ ] that's for sure to end this I would like for anyone who's listening to just take a moment and set your intentions to my lovely land lady Lola send her the best Vibes she's been feeling very low and has even gone to the hospital a few times during this chaos and I just want her to find peace and continue to live a long and healthy life with no demonic creeps lurking around it's not so much to ask for that's the end of the story right now I do have plans to go to Portugal to see my family and I promised Lola that I would stop in Fatima and get some holy water for her but until then my family has some from there too that's smart that's it for now if you would like I could keep you updated with any new developments and we did get a development it said I just got my whz and teeth pulled today so I'm home recovering and my land lady and her husband rang my doorbell a few times I opened the door and she practically ran upstairs and said she had a bad feeling like she was going to faint so I sat her down I gave her some water and started

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lighting some incense and palosanto as she began to pray and then she received a call and she put it on speaker phone and a lady was singing gospel music to her and leading her for a prayer this happened for like 45 minutes to an hour she finally started to feel better and they went back down to her apartment I told them that I'd be home for a few days so if they needed anything to just let me know and we hugged and that was that for tonight I hope you have a lovely day and I will see you on the other side but hopefully also on this

Energy and support

side Brit wow H I'm curious her feeling of faintness and light-headedness coming on I do wonder if that was potentially like a precursor to possession it's so weird cuz I'm the way I'm imagining this place like it's Upstairs Downstairs the fact that it is so contained to just Lola's apartment it's targeting her yeah right this is Brit's not experiencing this she's witnessing Lola exper it which is so scary yeah so Lola's being targeted

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and I'm so curious how it started yeah that's true I know it started with the nightmares and stuff but like I wonder if there was like a Lola went somewhere or brought a new object into the home well also they're across from the cemetery and even though our belief is that cemeteries are some of the least haunted places and the most peaceful places it does attract people who do certain rituals high schoolers middle schoolers going in with a Ouija board maybe using it totally incorrectly yeah and then the natural next place for an entity to go that maybe was summoned or brought in found access is the house next door first level Lola jeez okay I would love to do something that Brit asked of us we did this once on campfire stories and it worked so I'm not saying that we have any special abilities or anything but I do think this community is really really powerful and if we can just for a moment Focus all of our energy for everyone who is listening if you're in a safe space

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where you can like sit and close your eyes for just a moment we all send positive energy to Lola and to her husband and to protect her and to banish whatever negative and evil is bothering her and trying to attack and harm her that it is not welcome there and that the power of this community and the love and the light that we have to offer can help shelter Lola from this Darkness I feel like usually when I'm trying to focus my hands are the thing that buzzes but I had so much buzzing in my chest this time as you were saying it that's so weird I did too that is weird Okay Lola needs it clearly yeah I remember saying this the first time we've recorded this episode and I will say it again and I don't know how helpful it is but from my perspective from what I'm hearing from Brit it does seem like there's not much that's actually lessened the activity there's a lot a lot of attempting to banish attempting to claim the space a

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lot of holy prayer bringing in all these different things and it doesn't seem to be moving the needle as far as it should be and so I'm curious if all of that activity is still grounded within so much fear that this entity is eating this fear and getting all of the like supercharged from all of this constant fear and even like the the religious program that you can put on the television that that Lola plays there's some speech in there and probably some energy from the crowd that's watching it live that perhaps this entity can feed off of so I'm curious if Lola just took one week to just completely ignore it not engage with it and just no matter what like a bookshelf Falls in front of you you try not to Flinch just La La La in your own world what would happen it might move upstairs with Brett but it's hard it's it does feel like Lola's done

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and tried everything I I really hope she can find some Solace from this because I can't imagine I can't imagine yeah like life is already hard enough this is one of those things where it's like this does feel like a horror movie it almost feels like the only option is to fully move and leave but then would that entity well one you're saving yourself but like if it stays in the space what's going to happen to the next people well also it follows her she was in Jamaica and it followed her yeah that's I was going to that's what I was going to say even if she does move it could potentially follow her cuz you know maybe in Jamaica it was just following her because it knew that she was going to come back and it was like Hey roomie we're taking a family vacation but there's a good chance that it just yeah continues on I feel like there should have been a decom Disney Channel original movie that was the demon family vacation let's write our own version of of Disney movies with dark twists I feel

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like it's almost like the Even Stevens movie but it's like they all go on vacation and the demon that haunts them came with them I don't know if I've ever seen the even Steven you haven't if I did I don't remember it oh it is I mean I haven't seen it in years but it had some twists and turns wow okay what was that movie it so hurt my heart it was like maybe the next movie that shy lauff did holes in Disney no it was before holes where he was now I'm just thinking of all like the Disney movies that ever existed but there was a Disney movie where it was about his older sister and him and he had some learning disabilities in this movie and there was this scene and it just like hurt me and shattered me so much where like he's on a bridge or something and there's a bunch of kids that like all take his baseball cap and they spit in it and then they have

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him put it back on his head and he's getting bullied and something broken me that day and I was like I will never witness anyone experience something like this and not fully intervene and scare the [ __ ] out of the people that are bullying and I did take that with me through the rest of my life I definitely did Scare few bullies but man oh jeez probably not the message that they want wanted in uh so sad react by becoming a bully to the bullies but you got to stand up for yourself and for other people sometimes just yeah better than doing nothing totally all

Childhood trauma and ghosts

right I have an email it's called haunt me once jokes on you haunt me again still the joke's on you haunt me again well I guess I'm an idiot you're not if anything it's the Paranormal world is unpredictable and uh yeah we don't have much control there's no control we try unless you're like

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actively like inviting it in with like Ouija boards and being like come at me bro but come at me yeah and doing all the things to try to open up portals and means of communication but I'm not sure that that's exactly what happened here but there is a trigger warning for this story for light talking of verbal and physical abuse and racism hey Karen and Sabrina also hi Sabrina and Karen I did it both ways cuz I don't know whose name to put first a we don't care we don't read into it my name is Tara and I'm absolutely in love with this podcast I may be a little chaotic because I'm not someone who just listens in a linear pathway I jump through episodes I've been thinking about writing into the podcast since I started and I am a major procrastinator I seem to have more experiences or situations when I talk or put too much energy into it but today I decided I'm going to bite the bullet and I'm going to do it I'm going to email you and spoiler alert I started this in February of 2023 it is now December of 2023 and I'm finally finishing the email

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so it was an 11 month long writing process you still sent it that's all that matters you sent it and that's huge I was adopted at a young age with my two sisters and one brother we were adopted by our mother's brother and his wife who also had four kids we moved into this very Rinky Dink little town in the middle of the woods like little as in there were only three main roads and surrounded by pine trees and big oak trees and your property was a couple of acres and you had some space between you and your neighbors the school was located in the neighboring Town 30 minutes away this so sounds like somewhere near where I grew up I'm sure most of America's like this yeah I'm pretty sure the the first town in Branchburg where I grew up didn't have its own high school because it was too small yeah my high school we had it was like five or six towns that fed into one yeah to have enough kids my aunt and uncle were not good good people I was the youngest of all of

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the kids in the house and my earliest memories that I have are foggy at best and although I cannot remember a lot of what happened or what I experienced I do remember the pain and the sadness and just so much anger those feelings were always so strong when I remember feeling alone and out of place one thing pops out of my memory and I didn't think of this as an experience or even really remember it until a couple years ago but I had an imaginary friend which is pretty normal for kids especially for children who've experienced or dealt with trauma mhm my imaginary friend lived at my dayc care he never spoke to me but I knew his name even though I don't really recall him ever telling me his name but his name was Mr Z he was a shadow that walked on the ceiling and when I was upset or I was getting hurt my eyes would go to the roof and he would be there he never spoke but I would feel safe and I would feel comforted and numb to what was going on around me he was was almost always with me at that daycare from hell but he

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never came home with me though I wanted him to so terribly at some point I don't know the exact time frame the daycare was shut down by DCF and I never went back and I never saw him again at home my uncle had severe anger issues and some backstory I don't know how to say this in the correct manner but I was the only child in household that was half black the only adopted child with a different father my uncle and Aunt they were very racist people and I didn't realize why I was treated and talked to in a certain way growing up but eventually I filled in the blanks as I got older it's so sad it's like on top of having lost your parents and then being amongst your family who's supposed to like take care of you feeling so alone and so ostracized I can't even imagine for something that you can't help at all too like why does that why does it matter it shouldn't there would be good days where everything would be going great and no one was yelled at or was in trouble when

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out of nowhere things would just totally flip with my uncle and he would change one time he came out of his room while we were in the living room watching a movie and he was just in this rage and he started tearing up the living room screaming that we were too loud and quite literally he ripped the ceiling fan from the ceiling and I was on the floor when this happened only about seven and I felt sheer Terror and I quickly ran to my room that I shared with my two sisters and that night I just laid in bed too scared to breathe I would take a breath in I would hold it and then I would let it out slowly and wait before breathing in again I was just so scared that I would be too loud and he would come into the room in a rage but this time that I would be the target of his anger the layout of the room we stayed in had a bunk bed which my two sisters that were older slept on the left side of the door and then the single bed that I slept on the foot of the bed that I slept on faced the door of the bedroom which was always open and that was one of the rules that you could could never shut the door to the room

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that night as I laid in the bed barely breathing paralyzed with fear it slowly transformed into Terror my eyes were locked on the doorway of the room my breath completely stopped in the doorway sticking out as if someone was peeking in was the black silhouette of someone it was only the head as if whatever it was was sneaking a peek at me and through my Terror my tears streaming down my face I rasped in a quick breath with my heart slamming into my rib cage and whispered please stop and the had slowly pulled back out of the door frame at this time I think I rationalized it as maybe just one of my Foster Brothers who'd always like to mess with us a couple years ago my niece was explaining to my sister that she did not like to sleep by herself because at night she always saw this black shadow man looking through her door at her I'm curious if it's the same room or if it's just a familial haunting right maybe it is a familial haunting or just like an openness maybe within the family to

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perceiving that type of Paranormal Activity as I grew up being the youngest by 6 years there came a time that I was the only child left in the house and one of my last stories based in this house for this email had a lasting impression on me when I was 15 my uncle got a new job where he was out of town during the week and then sometimes he'd be out of town for 2 or 3 weeks at a time it was Christmas break I was home alone and I was in my room reclining in my bed reading a book and I was under my covers as it was just so cold in my room that day I was under my comforter the room was still then suddenly I froze as hot air landed on the right side of my face I froze and I heard the slight sound as if someone took a breath in before it came back out and breathed on me again I don't know how long I sat there completely Frozen but I just stared blankly at the book page in front of me and then suddenly I erupted from my bed I ranan out of the room to one of the spare bedrooms I sat on the bed the

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entire time waiting and expecting to hear these footsteps behind me and I sat on the bed book and knees clutched close and I just didn't hear anything I then began to rationalize what I just experienced maybe the heat had just kicked on and the stream was hitting me even though I could still clearly hear the breath that had been taken in from whatever decided to breathe their hot breath on my face that's also such a very purposeful hunt it's not like an accidental like Brush by you it's a I'm sitting in front of your face and I want you to know I'm here and I'm going to breathe my hot breath on your face unless it was just also trying to read the book and just forgot that it was a mouth breather I was like oops that's a cute way to put it but I feel like I'm just getting bad vibes yeah at some point I ended up laying down in the bed of the spare bedroom and it just felt so much safer to stay in there instead instead of returning back to my room and being out in the open parts of the house which

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I wouldn't have done so willingly without having that motivation I laid there and I tossed and I turned moving on the bed trying to get comfortable as I began to read again when I did the unthinkable I moved to where my legs were hanging off the side of the bed in the air I laid there and I read my Percy Jackson book and then I froze again this time it was not hot breath on my face but what felt like an ice cold Line run down the back of my leg after a second I slowly began to get up when an ice cold wrist wrapped around my ankle my pants bunched around my ankle and the ice cold was just seeping through I tried to kick out and there was this resistance before the feeling and the hold was gone and then I shot out of that room and down the hall out of the back door where I ran someway into the yard before I just collapsed on the ground and I had an anxiety attack oh my God there until the sun began to set and then I went straight back into my old room this time

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I locked the door to my bedroom uncaring of the fact that if my aunt came home and checked on me I would be in some deep [ __ ] for having the door closed I slid into my bed I pulled the covers over my head and I made sure that they were tucked in deep around me so that there were no openings then I closed my eyes shut I laid there silently until I fell asleep luckily nothing else happened to me on that night but those are my most stand out encounters at that house in that I can remember things were never consistently big enough for me to talk about like oh maybe we have a ghost or maybe I have a ghost everything felt like such a norm that all these little things were just another day in the house and I can't even imagine that that life at home or home life was a safe space to talk about things like this no and it's like some of these things are terrifying paranormally yes but it kind of seems like some of the stuff that was happening there between humans was scarier yeah and probably perpetuating

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the Paranormal everything was such anorm that all these little things felt like just another day in the house like when everything was quiet at the house it sounded as if someone would be walking down the hallway hand dragging along the wall especially if you were there alone my next story is long as well but hopefully it won't be too long for you guys but it is kind of a crazy one and for privacy sake I will change the names of the people in the story when I turned 17 I left the house and I never returned I was lucky enough to have a friend whose dad let me stay with him and his girlfriend and it was really great and I was able to work on myself and start to understand who I am as a person which I'm still trying to figure out that

Ouija board incident

today almost 10 years later hey me too back then yeah back then I was kind of an [ __ ] I was always extremely scared growing up about anything horror or paranormal or just anything that could be labeled as spooky until I moved out of that house my best friend Dustin Lisa

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and Brandon and I were always doing this stupid stuff together and we were always trying to one up each other growing up in the little town of Crystal Springs I knew of some little places and some urban legends that would really spook my friends my own experiences included when telling people about Crystal Springs I always say that we have two notable places the wildlife preserve that contains the springs that runs where we technically get the water for Zephyr Hills water company and the Crystal Springs graveyard the graveyard is such an interesting place in the' 70s when Crystal Springs still had a decent population the graveyard was where the kids would sneak off to go drink and party a lot of the parties ended with them shattering or breaking tombstones which is really pretty terrible as many of the Tombstones were not replaced leaving many of the graves unmarked that's very sad some of the headstones were so old that there was no notable family around to pay for the replacements so all of these unmarked graves are just along this open field

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and looking across you can see the dips in the ground of where they are I talk about the graveyard a lot there's even this fake urban legend that one not the real one one of Bloody Mary Spirits lives there there's a tombstone and the name on the tombstone is Mary a blood this grave used to be listed on the plot but now you can find it on the finder grave website and I believe that this is because a couple years ago someone went and desecrated some of the graves including Mary Bloods trying to dig out her tombstone because it was sunk into the ground when coming to the graveyard if you don't know where this Tombstone is located you would be hardpressed to find it so one day Lisa comes over and she has her great great great grandmother's Ouija board she told us that it had been given to her and was passed down the family line that's so cool she wanted to go to the graveyard and see if we could contact any Spirits so at this point I want to remind you guys that I'm 17 at this time I was

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young I was a dumb teen and I was an [ __ ] at this point I'd never used one of these boards but as I was finding myself I found a lot of bravado and being in a group of friends and I never backed down from any challenge I knew what was said about Ouija boards and the door that could possibly be opened but like I said I was young and dumb and so I told them yeah we could take this to Crystal Springs graveyard so Dustin Lisa and I we picked up Brandon we did not tell Brandon where we were going and the drive was a bit ominous I know even with that bravery of being in the friend group there's still this sense of trepidation you know so to get to the cemetery it's on these back roads in the thick of the Woods dirt road after dirt road until you come to turn once more and then there's this metal gate shrouded by large trees and bushes with a long beaten path between it we get there and I tell Brandon that I had to go grab something from my cousin and he looked like he thought something was up or funky about my story but he didn't question climbing over the

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gate and walking down the path or Lisa bringing a big tote back with her for this quick stop oh poor Brandon yeah what a horrible prank for Brandon it's so funny cuz like it's like they clearly know Brandon would never come along willingly if he knew the real but the fact that they continue to bring him anyway I know the walk was about half a mile and then it opened up into this large field revealing the old decrepit graveyard immediately Brandon noped his way back down the path but Dustin jogged after him and grabbed his arm come on Brandon it's fine you can't just run off we all need to stay together you don't want some hick Billy finding you alone to dice you up sure terrify the guy even more I know Dustin's way of trying to convince Brandon to stay was not helpful as they both began to wrestle Brandon was trying to get dust off and Dustin was trying to keep his hold of Brandon I yelled at them to stop and then I just got between

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them Brandon I'm sorry that we lied to you I just wanted for all of you to see it and I knew that you wouldn't come willingly so you don't have to come in if you don't want to but please do not run off at this point I could tell that Brandon was angry but he was breathing heavily and he nodded just stay here you don't have to come into the graveyard I just want to show them a few tombstones and then we'll be really quick Brandon says fine but hurry we shouldn't even be here which he was correct but I do want to clarify a few things first I knew of the history of this place I have a fascination with graveyards and cemeteries and I always go in and I go in with respect I had explained the history to both Lisa and Dustin as well and we were careful to not walk on any of the grave sites that being said I don't know how respectful doing a Ouija board in their resting place was but we walked along the Tombstones and I pointed to some of the oldest ones and ones that you were unable to make out the dates or the names and then we came across the tombstone Mary a blood her

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tombstone was sunk low into the ground grass grew over hiding it from plain sight it was here that Lisa pulled out her Ouija board and decided that it was going to be the perfect spot as she began to place it on the ground near Mary a blood's Tombstone her and Dustin began to settle around it I glanced to the opening of the field where Brandon was sitting against the tree before I Shrugged down to sit and join them I half listened as Lisa explained the rules to Dustin as I placed my fingers on the planet and we sat there for about 10 minutes or so asking questions and occasionally the planet would move and at this point I was fairly certain that one of them was just playing around and moving it but I didn't want to draw attention to it because we were just there to have fun right and that's a hard thing about Ouija boards it's like yeah you are putting some trust in other people and totally when scary things happen at least you have't out like you can be like oh someone else was moving it it was for sure someone else was moving in and like no no no you weren't moving I wasn't moving it yeah exactly

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at one point it just became a talking session with us all joking with each other and our fingers were still pressed against the planet when slowly it just began to move h e l l o hello I remember dramatically rolling my eyes and saying hi Dustin L and I laughed as Dustin immediately began the I promise it's not me and as he was denying that it was him the planchet moved to no now I've heard people talk about how you can tell if someone in your group is moving it and it most definitely was not someone else it felt like something else I don't even know how to describe the feeling of dread that physically just washed over my body as the planchet moved across the board to know it was such a strong and sure movement and it felt like this deep Hook grabbed onto my chest causing me to heave forward as if something was trying to pull me to my feet the tips of my fingers white with the amount of pressure that I was exuding down to keep my fingers pressing on this planchet my

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eyes met Lisa's and it must have contained the question are you moving it because she shook her head before looking down at the board with her brow furrowed if you're not Dustin who are you she asked and still feeling something was not right I glanced at Dustin who was pale and then I felt the planchet move to Z and this is the point where I do have to remind you guys again young and dumb hey trying to make the situation lighter I called on my false bravado from earlier masking the Deep unease that I felt Z oh like Mr Z my sweet friend I joked it immediately moved to yes at this point I began to think that one of them was moving it again despite the tiny voice in the back of my head telling me that this was very real and I needed to get the [ __ ] out encouraged by my Brave face and probably thinking that I was messing with them Lisa spoke over Dustin who began to scold me for framing him in the beginning Tara told me about you Mr Z you left her

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immediately the planet moved to know well if you didn't leave where are you Lisa asked maybe let's not piss off the ghost Justin spoke after a minute when nothing happened I'm not pissing anyone off Mr Z likes me Lisa retorted and the planet began to creep towards no before finally coming to rest on it uh I don't think he likes you Lisa Dustin cleared his throat I don't like that I know we all had that weird nervous laugh thing going do you like me I asked because I was nervous and I was scared and I wanted to know if I was being followed by something that wanted to hurt me young me clearly not knowing or thinking that they could lie the plet creeped over to yes do you like my friends I asked again and it began to move back to yes but stopped before making it all the way maybe that means only some of us Dustin widened his eyes and then pointed at Lisa tauntingly do you like Dustin Lisa asked

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and the board moved to no with the same momentum as the first time it moved well then who does it like I mean you only talk to like five people Dustin began to say as Lisa cackled as the planette began to move and started spelling out something else b r a and before it could finish Lisa guessed Brandon and it immediately moved over to yes I like that it likes the one person who is like I don't want to communicate with the dead I know we all look back to the opening of the clearing where we had left Brandon and Brandon is not there what the [ __ ] where did he go Dustin moved his hands from the plan ignoring Lisa's grasp got up and made his way over to where Brandon was Dustin wait I called and I may be stupid but even I know that we needed to stay there and stay goodbye before removing our hands unless we wanted some bad [ __ ] to happen yes at least you know that and that's when it began to move again and spell out phone and then spell out dead I

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immediately pull the planet to goodbye I do it with so much force that Le's fingers come off the planchet and the planchet came off of the board [ __ ] that I get up and I run to the front of the clearing where Dustin was yelling for Brandon not helping Lisa gather her things or the board maybe he went to the bathroom Dustin said as he started to make his way through the thick of the trees he probably just can't hear us how far would he need to go I exclaimed I'm looking around I'm trying to see any sign of him and the Sun is beginning to set so the forest is looking pretty dark from all of the Shadows guys his phone is going straight to voicemail Lisa rushed over to us not believing it I pulled out my phone and I tried calling him and yeah it went straight to voicemail I literally just said it was Tara Lisa gave me a look and then I looked at her bag there's no way that it would know dot dot dot I got goosebumps at the thought did the board really just tell us that Brandon's phone was dead before we tried calling Brandon's phone and found that it was was dead which feels like a good thing right I feel like this this entity came through with

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such dread at first and I don't know if that's just like communicating with the dead is scary like that but it felt ominous at first and now it's telling you like an important message which is like was it feeling creepy because you weren't actually expecting to make contact with anyone and you're in this like old creepy graveyard I or was that feel like can something be both right you know like we've learned more recently in some of our excursions about some demons or like trickster spirits that can kind of be a little bit of both like even the Fay the Fay is a great example of something that can be both good and bad have different energies yeah first they're sour then they're sweet Dustin came out of the trees and he was totally out of breath no sign of him but it's literally so creepy in there maybe he went to the car to charge his phone I suggested Lisa nodded well I don't have a charger but maybe so we all booked it down the path and we got to the car but Brandon was not there he was not in it he was not around around it now I don't advise anyone to do this but after several minutes of waiting around

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the car we got in the car and then we drove up and down the road to see if maybe he got mad and began to walk home and now at the time I assumed that this was a good idea but looking back if he really had just stepped into the woods to use the bathroom and then we had left he was probably freaking out it was now pretty much dark no street lights and his phone was dead it was a pretty dangerous situation after a good solid 45 minutes we drove back to the gate but it was so dark that none of us felt like we should go back without flashlights so we got in the car and we decided to call his mom his mom answers the phone and Dustin begins to calmly try to explain the situation to her and she keeps interrupting him saying what what I can't hear you tell whoever is with you to stop Whispering on the phone I can't hear a word you're saying and then she just finally hangs up stop I forgot that part I know we all immediately began to talk over each other when I pulled out my phone and I tried calling her and I noticed that I have a Facebook message from Brandon from about 20 minutes ago he stated that he was at his brother's

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he had him come pick him up before his phone was about to die and we had all been taking too long and he had tried calling out to us but we were all ignoring him so he just decided to leave which is so weird that they didn't hear that either you know like they yell at Brandon and Brandon can hear them but Brandon yells at them and they don't hear anything that's terrifying like they were in a little bubble he said he was lucky that his brother came when he did because his phone died right before his brother got there and he was pretty sure it broke because he had his phone on the charger the whole ride home to his brother's house but his phone was essentially a brick and it just was not charging we were very fortunate that this ended in the way that it did we all did end up apologizing to each other for how the day went and how the situation turned out and Brandon never trusted anyone ever again well to this day Brandon doesn't believe that anything happened with the Ouija board oh Dustin doesn't believe that the board spelled out phone dead when he went to to go look for Brandon cuz it was only Lisa and uh Tera at this

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point and I didn't think too much about the interaction with so called Mr Z both Lisa and I still occasionally bring up the encounter and how one of us had been messing with the other one but deep down we know that we weren't none of us ever really addressed whatever reached out to us that day I mean it did say it was my imaginary friend from childhood but we wouldn't talk about it and we didn't talk about anything that happened with the board besides Brandon's situation as for the board Lisa had left it at my house and hid it in my closet in a room that I stayed in at my sister's when I moved out I forgot about it and I left it there my sister said that she was cleaning one day and she found it so she had her husband burn it in a fire pit outside I am sad about the ending of this board but I also understand cuz it was like 100 plus years old but if I found a Ouija board in my closet I'd be like what the actual f is this get out like I would not be cool with that in my home especially like being surprised by it totally and if you know any like I

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don't know how much Lisa shared with her sister about the situation if they ever discussed it but even so even without that if you find like this old creepy Ouija board you're like nope no chances are being taken here nope my sister and her family would talk about how for months when they would get up in the morning the fire pit would be smoking Embers hot like whatever wood that was in it the night before was Ash and even on mornings after nights when the pit was not used without fail every morning something would be smoking that Ouija board still on fire burning through the Realms God that's creepy that's just like I feel like that's confirmation that that was the right move or not yeah maybe I don't know it's so powerful I've had a few encounters since then a little here and there but it wasn't until a few years ago when I was telling scary stories at night with my sister's little sister-in-law Mandy and I had reached over my shoulder to turn out the light and to make it scarier that something growled in my face a

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growl so loud I felt the hair fly in the air behind the sound and Mandy screamed and I accepted yeah maybe I'm haunted maybe something is following me crazy that a dramatic event like this would make me acknowledge that but that's a story for another time I have plenty more things have been pretty calm around me lately and I am hoping that it stays that way and that I stay safe a few bumps in the night won't deter me from my path but I've had some pretty scary experiences and I feel like the energy that I carry with me sometimes manifests it sometimes your podcast causes things to happen too but only one time was frightening it was while I was listening to your episode 191 Julia's possessed any who I think I should end this email here what happened when you were listening to Julia was possessed I know Tera you shared so many stories and you just leave us with a cliff hanger on that H we need an update I love you guys I love your podcast and all that you do

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to help me get through the long drives and sad nights you guys are my favorite ghostesses with the mostes parentheses wrote CU spelled out mostes which is kind of hard to spell out in parenthesis Tara wrote LOL hopefully that comes across as intended and yall don't think that I'm trying to say that you have most testies well right now K you do you're grown a pair wait I actually do I have you're growing a pair I'm growing a pair wait I've always dreamed of having a penis and now I kind of do yeah it's just in UD too can't wait to see you on the other side much love Tara from Florida wow I mean Tara you've had so many experiences and have had multiple things breathe and growl in your face which I don't love yeah and it's like I can understand what's happening in that one house that

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terara grew up in too because there was such anger and violence being perpetuated by the adults there and it didn't feel like a safe space and I'm sure there was a lot of fear and it just like you know it's an attractive thing for darkness and unfortunately like certain energies to come try to manipulate and so I understand all the activity there but man I feel bad that like the growling the the Ouija board experience like Mr Z potentially popping up and it's like is Mr Z good is Mr Z bad is he both all of this is happening after Tara has moved out of her aunt and uncle's house so it does make me think that a lot of like other family members probably did experience things but no one ever really talked about it so I'm just really curious right well her niece is now talking about it her niece now sees the shadow figure creeping in looking in her bedroom at night okay

UFO encounter and closing

well I have one story to end this on and some kitty purs for everyone some ASMR from Leia she's so cute okay so this is a

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story from our listener Antonia and it's called I saw legit aliens and okay she says hey I'm listening to episode 50 and I wanted to tell you I was in Belgium in 1989 and I was a witness to this and it's a link to a Infamous UFO encounter which I had never heard about in Belgium I I don't think I've heard of it either my father was in the armed forces and we lived in an army base camp near Brussels it was late November and my mom and I were outside one night just sitting by the fire chatting away when my mom looked up and saw a triangle of lights above our chimney it was completely silent and stayed there for about a minute and then it shot off so fast that my eyes couldn't follow it we lived near a huge military base at the time so we didn't really think anything of it probably just some secret army thing but my father was a colonel high up in NATO and the British Army and he came home

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the next morning saying that they had a wave of sightings and nobody knew what it was ooh ooh multiple Witnesses they asked the Belgian Air Force to investigate and they didn't know either he's 70 now and still is adamant that it was UFOs and then I saw this report on the wave of UFO sightings last year and I was like oh my gosh I was there I'm one of those people so the link is it's the Belgian UFO wave it happened or it began in November of 1989 reports are filed most were many weeks after the event but many of them reported a large object flowing at a low altitude that was flat triangle shape with lights underneath and I think it was like over 140 reports I want to do a full episode on it but this is from Antonia and now we're going to go do some research about it dude deep dive now I'm so curious and also just the fact that so many UFOs look the same in so many of the reports

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it does make me wonder like is this a man-made ship from future humans that we now see as aliens and their time traveling like it's just yeah I don't know I don't know either yeah for that many witnesses and so many different forces like coming to be like what is this and with all that was investigated seemingly no conclusive statement yeah there was no way to prove what it was and yeah okay you know what I found out the town that my brother and sister live in Morristown New Jersey there was a massive UFO hoax like an Infamous UFO hoax in that town feel dang I don't know more about it but I wonder if the people who did the hoax still live there I'm curious what if your sister or brother are neighbors but they're best friends they have like afternoon tea with one of the biggest alien UFO hoaxers out there yeah and then their sister has a podcast where

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she believes all the alien stories so what a my sister's a secret podcaster that would be a tost she does a voice changer and she just her whole podcast is going through all of our covered topics and trying to debunk every single one wow she's like our biggest hater yeah where she's like outing my secrets H there are podcasts that exist like that out there where their only podcast is about trying to talk [ __ ] on other podcasts and I I hate that like do something better with your life there was one that did it about us yeah we were one episode but they were doing they were I mean every podcast like they covered every podcast yeah don't look them up don't give them any lessons to spend your life why you hater yeah to spend your life literally hating on other people and like picking people apart is so I can't even imagine the negativity that is just like percolating in their body body like that is just not a way to live that's some bad energy we don't want to be around bad energy we

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