HAUNTED COLLEGE DORMS & SORORITY HOUSES | Ghosts, spirits, and urban legends on campuses (x313)

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But the dorm didn't just come with college energy. It came with something else.

One sister was like a haunted artifact lover bringing things in and no one else knew. The chapel was built in 1748. It had been used in the revolution as a hospital.

We have a theme encounters from college.

[music and singing]

Yeah.

Very spooky.

Happy New Year.

Happy New Year.

2026. What are your Actually, never mind. I don't do those.

Yeah, I know. I was like, I don't want them.

No, I resolve whenever it's time to resolve throughout the year.

Yeah,

I follow.

I put pressure on ourselves immediately. This is what I love about the moon cycle. Like if you if you feel so

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inclined to be a little witchy with every new moon cycle, you can do like an intention setting, a look at where you are, reset.

It's not about the new year. It's about what feels right to you.

And also like we don't need to give another piece of homework and more tasks to ourselves.

No. There's enough pressure in life.

Yeah.

Literally, life is way too complicated.

I know. It's

like we were not meant to deal with the things that we deal with. No. And I feel like it's impossible. This Oh, this is two girls, one ghost.

Two girls, one ghost. We are your ghostesses. That is Karen. Hi, I'm Sabrina. And this is the first encounters of 2026.

Makes me want to vomit saying that number.

But I was going to say it feels like we've talked for so long about I don't know if this is what you still want, but it's definitely what [laughter] I want for myself in my personal life. Like the slow life where it's like kind of like it feels like it's the '9s again. Like I want my childhood again repeated where it's like all the noise, all the chaos,

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like things just feel slower and more intentional and like you get to live in the moment and

there's just less to do and less to see and less to talk about.

But I feel like I can never get there cuz it feels like as soon as I like

think of getting somewhere, there's like 17 other things that get stacked on top of it that that pulls you away from that. So, let's make everyone have all the money in the world

and we don't worry about taxes. We don't worry about paying bills.

I think that's the solution. No more bills.

Oh,

cancel the bills.

Cancel the bills.

And let's all just sit and tell ghost stories. I think that should be the new goal in life. No bills.

Food away from life complaints and straight into the dead.

Yeah, exactly. And we have a theme. You just got lost in Sven eyes. Well, because this started bothering me. Sven has a loose plastic hanging out of the roof of his mouth, but it's I can't get it. It's just

Keep your mouth shut.

Yuck. Sven.

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He's got He's got some

over your tissues.

I don't think he has any tissue left. [clears throat and laughter]

We have a theme.

Mhm.

It's encounters from college.

Haunted Universities where Sabrina and I met.

And you're going to go first.

Yes, I am.

I was thinking as I was in the bathroom before this episode about how long ago college was. And I'm not even I can't even say it. I don't want I can't do the math

years since we graduated.

Oh, I was like, "Wait, it's been longer than that since we graduated."

Yeah.

Bleep that out, though, Jamie. I don't want people to know. [laughter]

I don't want to catch

crazy. It's interesting because I was actually thinking yesterday about how if I could redo college with the knowledge that I have now, I actually would because I feel like

a lot of the mistakes and regrets I have from that time period were not learning moments. They were just terrible decisions that had nothing to do with my growth or who I was or could be. It was just I consumed way too much alcohol. And

but don't you think you could say you learned that you don't like consuming

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alcohol from those experiences?

I think that came with maturity anyway.

Yeah.

But I would have gone back because I think the things that happened didn't change me weren't for the better and only hurt people that I still love. So, I would go back and do it only if I could do it with the knowledge I have now.

I would go back to do it just to do what we asked for in the beginning of this episode. Less adult cares in the world. [laughter]

Less bills. I mean, even though college is expensive as

except for the bill was $60,000 a year

to go to Loyola Mount University.

Universally.

Universal.

And we learned how to speak there.

Caleb's shadow

Yep.

You're gone first.

Okay. This is called Caleb's Shadow. Hi, Karen and Serena. My name is Bri, she her and I'm a new listener of the podcast. Absolutely perfect to get into around the Halloween season. I have a spooky story from college. So, here we go. It was the summer of 2014 and I was going into my senior year of college in downtown Chicago. I will say my one complaint with all the stories that I

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picked out. I don't think anyone told us their actual university. It's just stories from their college, but we don't know where they are.

But here we have a clue. Downtown Chicago.

Chicago. Okay. I was an RA and me and a handful of my other RA friends volunteered to spend the summer in one of the dorms hosting students over break in exchange for free housing.

That is a great

sponsor to afford college.

I had never lived in this dorm, but it was long rumored to be haunted. I've always believed in the possibility of spirits and the supernatural, but I'd never really had an encounter myself, so I didn't think twice about it. One night, my roommate and I were having a movie night, a sleepover in our friend's room. My roommate Sarah and I slept on the air mattress in the living room while our friends Nick and Caleb were asleep in their shared bedroom. In the middle of the night, I feel Sarah tossing and turning next to me and moaning, "Stop. Knock it off." I asked them what was wrong and they said, "Caleb keeps trying to tickle my feet." Caleb, knock it off. Our friend Caleb is a notorious prankster, so it wasn't a

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complete surprise that he was messing with us. A moment later, I started to feel really cold air on my feet and a tug on the side of the blanket. I told him to knock it off because I was trying to sleep. Eventually, I turned around and I didn't see anyone at the foot of the mattress, but Sarah told me he just ran into the kitchen. The kitchen was a few feet in front of us and it was to the right, so it was blocked off by a wall, but you could see the entryway from where we were sleeping. "All right, Caleb, you can come out now," I yelled from bed. I saw Caleb silhouette a complete shadow quickly walking forward out of the kitchen and then backst step back in. Caleb has a very distinct silhouette, a very pointed nose, round belly, and quiff hair. So I was sure that it was him. Sarah and I both kept yelling at him from the air mattress to come out and stop pranking us. But he never reemerged from the kitchen cuz it wasn't Caleb. So eventually I got fed up. I got out of bed and I walked into the kitchen. It was dead empty. I thought I'd been seeing things, but Sarah told me that she had also seen Caleb walking in and out of the kitchen.

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So, we both looked around for a moment in the kitchen and then around the hallway, expecting him to pop out and scare us, but nobody was there. We nervously went to the side of the apartment and knocked on the bedroom door. Caleb and Nick had both been in there the entire time. And with the arrangement of the apartment, he would have had to pass through the living room where we were sleeping to get back to his bedroom if he was in fact breaking us. So, we definitely would have seen him, but Caleb had never left that room after going to bed. The four of us were now absolutely freaked out. We stayed up for another 2 hours watching friends to calm our minds.

Sarah and I slept on the floor between the boys' beds because we were way too afraid to be in the living room

and we never stayed the night in their apartment again. And I couldn't have been more grateful to move out of that dorm by the end of the summer. I hope you enjoyed reading and thank you for considering this story for your show. See you on the other side, Bri. Okay. It's terrifying in the sense that you don't want this to happen to you, but it's also playful and I'm curious about the ent like it doesn't seem like it's a

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bad entity.

No, but it's also crap. Well,

who was it and what? [laughter] And also the fact that it was like mimicking Caleb silhouette if he had such a distinct such distinct features and like the way that

it was the shadow shaped

a spirit attached to Caleb like a family member or someone that looks

or what if Caleb was astral projecting in the middle of the night and he doesn't want to do is tickle their feet.

Yeah. What if he was like lucid dreaming and didn't realize maybe didn't remember when he woke up.

My cousin Jason who we met at the North Carolina show who like infamously doesn't believe in ghosts. He's not my favorite cousin of yours.

He only because of that. Every time I see him, he goes, "So, you have a new ghost story?" So, I saw him at my mom's 50th um birthday immediately. So, Sabrina, any new ghost stories to share? And I was like, I told him the sleep paralysis uh in Edinburgh. And he goes, I've had sleep paralysis before. It's weird. And I was like, excuse me.

Classic.

I was like, how do you explain that? He

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goes, I don't know. Chemicals in your brain, man. We all see the same creatures.

No, he definitely thinks it's weird, but like won't. He doesn't not believe in ghosts. I think he just hasn't had an experience and he wants to have one.

But it reminds watching people who do believe in ghosts.

Flustered.

Oh, he is a pot stir. If I ever knew a bear.

Yes.

And the bear is me and the bear is actually Sasquatch.

The bear is anywhere cuz I will

in this situation. You don't want to pick this bear. [laughter] I'll always pick you. Um,

haunted Alpha Phi

speaking of bear, I actually picked this story for you and it's from a sister of yours.

What?

Alpha

and do little like didn't you have like Alpha Fe bear or something?

Yeah, you do your bear ears and then you go my other hand's holding coffee so I won't do it. But the alpha fee. So one hand for I just always remember you guys did the alpha fee bear ears.

I don't know. Was a bear our mascot or something? We all did barriers and you

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were the which is this.

Or if you were me I thought it was a fake mustache.

Okay. So bear must have been ours cuz you did kite too.

Yeah. Kite was our like symbol.

Okay. So we must have but the ivy was you know what? Who knows? I was such a bad alpha fee that I ran for office. That's what you call it.

Became chaplain and then cut the initiation. I edited it cuz I was like this is way too long of a ceremony. Made it efficient, expedited. I got those girls in and out real quick.

Well, thank you for talking about initiation because this story brings up initiation. This is from our listener and your sister

Michaela

and it's called Haunted Sorority House Alpha Fee. Hi, I just read Listen to your podcast and I'm hooked and trying to catch up. I'm currently listening to episode 78, Sister Sister, which discusses haunted sorority and fraternity houses, which I'm taking as a sign to share my story. I rushed in 2017, accepting a bid and then moving

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into the house in 2018, which was never my original plan. It was truly last minute. I was asked to take a room on the first floor with a girl named Lauren, not her real name since I have not asked her permission if I could share this. But that that leads me to ask you, did you always like did you go into college knowing that you were going to rush a sorority?

Honestly, I watched the show Greek

Yeah. in high school and it was one of my I absolutely have to do Greek life

and [clears throat]

and LMU happened to be the school that I fell in love with and it's like one of the only Jesuit schools that also has Greek life

and our Greek life was not traditional Greek life we don't have houses

there's no houses

there's no Greek row

there's no Greek row and it's very like

it's like joining an organization

like we're in different sororities but we're still

most of our friend group friends it was

DG theta alpha it was

we were a mixed group I had no I never put any thought to cuz my mom wasn't in an authority. My dad was a landai and had a lot of scary stories from those days. Oh, I'm sure.

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So, I can't say it was like enticing but then at LMU one of the unique things is you don't rush your first semester. So, you have a full semester

and then people rush their second semester. So, all of our friends were rushing so I was like I guess I will too.

Yeah. Cuz like some because everyone else was doing it, I did it too. Situation pressure.

Yeah. I jumped off the bridge.

Some schools literally like you go before school even started to go rush, which is crazy. Yeah,

that's so scary.

No, it was a very different experience for us.

I would do one of those like semesters at sea or something to avoid that. [laughter]

I love that. Okay, so Lauren and Michaela move in together. Lauren's not the real name, but Lauren and I were not close and we had extremely different lives. She was a homebody and I spent more nights at my then boyfriend's place than I did at the sorority house. Anyway, after moving in, we participated in rush and weirdly uncovered porcelain dolls in our ceremony closet.

These dolls were never in there before.

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We have no idea how we got

of Alpha Fe. I can tell you that porcelain dolls are not a part of

a part of it.

Yeah.

Yeah. We were all terrified, but we put them back where we found them in hopes to not disturb whatever could be attached. Unfortunately, that did not work. Preference round. I had a I love this because as I read this, I was like my brain already cuz it was it's an abbreviation. It's PNM, but I immediately had potential new member. Like I knew

Wait, what is it?

PNM, potential new member.

Oh, I thought you meant it was didn't say after that. And I was like, then what else did you

No, no, but like she didn't write that. I just knew.

PNM's potential new members. So, preference round, I had a potential new member tell me that she watched a book fall off a shelf behind me during my speech. It made me want to throw up, but that was not even the worst experience. In the house, we regularly heard walking, vacuuming, and our heavy chapter room doors opening and closing being slammed shut, which we were able to kind of brush off after arguing in

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the group chat about who was causing it. What really made me feel super sick was when Lauren decided to go home for a weekend and left me alone in our double. That night I had the most uneasy feeling on the first floor. Like the entire floor I felt so uneasy in.

It was as if someone is in the house that shouldn't have been there and they were watching. I brushed this off as me being stupid and I went to bed. That night I woke up to hearing tapping on our wall/ window frame. I looked to where the sound was coming from and I saw a tall man in a hat under Lauren's lofted bed sitting in the futon. I couldn't see his face, but he was in a pinstriped suit with a fedora. I could not move my legs. I couldn't say anything. It felt like I just had to sit there, lay there, and watch him watching me for hours.

That's awful.

The next morning, Lauren came home and I immediately told her something weird happened last night. But before I could get any details out, she stopped me and said, "Is it the man under my bed?"

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What the

If I wasn't already scared, I was now my pants. She told me it happens whenever I'm not there.

What?

And the first time, it felt so real that she got up and swung her hair straightener under the bed, denting the wall because she was trying to hit him, but there was no one there. The straightener hit the wall. [gasps] Oh my god, this is so scary. Especially because not to like immediately go to like mur murderers, but like

right

Ed Keer, Ted Bundy, like you think of all the examples of like these terrible people going [clears throat] after

Golden State Killer like standing outside the window, you know, like it's just

Yeah. We also realized our dreams were the exact same. So, we asked the girl in the single next to us and she said she hears tapping but never saw anything or anything else weird. She just assumed it was one of us tapping. We truly never got an answer to as to why this happened or what it was, but we never let the others sleep alone in that house again. Thanks for reading. Um, I have loads of other stories like the girl under the

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stairs at my grandma's house or visiting my friend at Ohio University where the campus sits in the middle of five cemeteries which create the shape of a pentagram. Love the podcast. Can't wait to eventually catch up. Michaela. Wow, that is freaking terrifying. And to [clears throat] have no answer. And also the weird the fact that it all started around these dolls appearing in the ceremony closet.

I almost forgot about that detail. I did forget about that detail.

Like and I feel like Michaela probably didn't think anything of it, but then looking back it's like, oh, this is kind of when everything started.

One sister was like a haunted artifact lover bringing things in and no one else knew. So creepy.

I also wonder what those dolls looked like. They were probably very creepy.

Did you have a house mother? Didn't people have house mothers when they had like actual sorority homes?

Is that a real thing?

I think so because we went to for Alpha Fe when I was chaplain. We did because we didn't have a house. We did initiation at the USC Alpha FE house. They like let us borrow the house

and the like house mother lives in the

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house.

I think so. I met a house mother. I met some 45-year-old woman. I [laughter] don't know.

I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine living in a college house. No. Oh my god. That would be that's the worst. Why would you want that?

Awful.

You have to be the heaviest sleeper. You have to give zero shits.

I could never do it.

Like what's the motivation?

Unless like your daughter like unless you're like Rory and Laura Gilmore. Like

yeah,

which they would never be sority girls, but that's like the only reason I could be like, "Oh, that makes sense."

I can't imagine ever doing that.

If anyone knows how that works, please let us know.

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haunted dorm & ghost cow

Okay, I have this is called haunted dorm room dorm and cow ghost.

Well, now I know why you chose this one

for picking a story for me last time, but I picked this one also for me. [laughter] Hi guys, you can call me Ben. I just listened to your podcast for the first time and I loved it. It made me want to

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share a story of my own. So, here's some backstory on myself. I feel like I've always had some type of ability when it comes to the paranormal, and I've always been into spooky stuff. I always thought that maybe I could read energy from places and people specifically, but as a kid, I would experience the energy, particularly negative energy so intensely that I would end up freaking out and have to be taken home from places.

Oh, that's so sad. But also, it's a good kid to have,

right? Yeah. like read the literally read the room

the energy. I also feel like I tend to attract out of the ordinary things happening to me which I guess is what this story in particular is about. I finished my freshman year of college at North Dakota State University a few weeks ago. I really loved the school and I'm excited to go back, but I had an array of strange experiences, especially at the start of the year. My first weird experience was in the first 2 weeks after moving in. I was writing a paper

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for one of my classes and my roommate was at one of his clubs that night. So, I was home alone. It was probably around 9:30 or so, and I felt like I'd done enough work. So, I took my headphones off and I was just going to scroll on Instagram for a while. Maybe 15 minutes go by and I started hearing really low male voices talking unintelligably. Not that weird, but it definitely was not my roommate talking outside the door because his voice was not that low. It kept going on and I was trying to tell where it was coming from and it felt like maybe it was an echo chamber in the room. These low low male voices. So I went into the hallway. All the doors were shut and when I came back in the voices were gone. Everything was pretty normal for a while.

But as the semester went on, more strange things began to happen. One weekend in October, I came back from somewhere or the other. And now an important part to note is that my dorm room has no AC. There's no ventilation unless you bring a fan or you have a window open. I had these metallic hooks on my bed that I could put a lanyard

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like my school ID on. I did that just like every other time and went to go click around on my computer. A few seconds after I hear something and I turn around to see my lanyard had unhooked itself from the hook, flew across the room, hit my roommate's chair, and landed on the seat of that chair with no ventilation. Something picked it up and threw it six feet.

Yeah. That's not like it just falling off the hook. That is

Also, I don't think a fan could blow it six feet.

No.

I just thought it was weird until me and one of my friends went on a haunted campus tour.

I would love let us do that.

Could you imagine if we went back to LMU to do a haunted campus tour?

That's cool.

That would be so fun.

That would be

Is that the only thing that will bring you back to LA?

Yeah. LMU, if you're listening,

if you want me to get on a plane and go to LA, that's the only way. At the end of the tour, they asked us if we had any ghost stories. I told them mine and they asked what dorm I was in. I said the

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name and they had a physical reaction which told me that something had happened there. And unfortunately, there had been known suicides in that dorm.

Jeez.

But that in tandem with the two things made me think that maybe something else had been at play. That friend I did the tour with had an experience, too. Her dorm was supposed to be haunted by the namesake of it. But her spirit is angry because they gave the building her [clears throat] married name and not her maiden name.

I would be pissed about that, too.

One night, past midnight, my friend heard heavy footsteps outside and went to go see what was going on. She said at the end of the hallway, she saw a woman wearing a long dress with her hair tied up in a bun walking down the hallway. And no one does that in the middle of the night during the week. She assumed it must be the ghost of the namesake of the building. And then there's this campus legend. It's more funny than scary.

Okay.

Years and years ago, the college had a cow that produced a lot of butter. Like

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an entire colleg's usage.

That's a really esteemed cow. Unfortunately, the cow ended up dying and they buried it somewhere on the campus. However, during that time, records were moved around and the record of where the cow was buried was lost. So there are now cow. No, [laughter]

there are now cowbones somewhere. Beyond that, it is said that students who walk around on the south end of campus at night may hear mooing. And sometimes a spectral cow appears to them and wanders around campus.

I love this. I love this haunting.

Perhaps trying to find where it is buried, too.

Or is that an indication of where it's buried?

Maybe it's the south end. Somewhere on the south end of campus. I tried to see this cow, but I haven't yet. Thanks so much. I'm definitely going to listen to your podcast more now from Ben.

I'm obsessed with this cow and this legend for the school. What a cool, unique story.

I saw a video the other day where it was this man gave a gift to his wife, but it

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was like a push present, but it wasn't like a bag. It wasn't a, you know, like a material item. I mean it was material in the sense that it was material but he literally shipped I want to say it was like six block of butter from France from France to their home and then he put together this like beautiful little basket with like baguettes mustards like so they can make sandwiches and she like loves butter.

Oh my god that is such a good gift.

I know. I was like I kind of feel like that would be

Oh giant butter.

Yeah. me up. me up.

That's a grape push present.

That is a haunted college.

Yeah, there's a lot going on. It seems like every dorm is haunted. But I do I would like to Okay, North Dakota State University. Hold on. I had to do a quick Google cuz I'm like, is this like in the middle of a city or a town? Because I'm so curious about the ghost tour. Like is it an on campus offered ghost tour or is it just like a ghost tour in the town that they stop in front of the

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What's the verdict? It is like in the middle of a town.

Okay. But that doesn't mean it's not a campus ghost tour,

right?

Should we look up the town and see if

Wait, this is confusing though cuz like all the buildings around say that they're a part of Jesus Christ. How big is this university?

The state school probably.

Damn,

it is the town.

I think it is the town.

The town is the college.

Uhhuh.

growing up on a haunted campus

Okay. Well, we were talking about who would be a dorm or like a house mom. As you were telling me that story, I was thinking about I remember my freshman year, I think it was on like the top floor of our dorm at the very end of the hall instead of like an RA, there was a teacher and his family living there. And

is that just cuz like there they put them up to be

I think they Yeah, like housing for them teachers to come.

But I was thinking about that and I have a story that is from someone who grew up on a college.

On a college? What?

Yeah,

man. What in the sweet life of Zach and

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Cody? Like that is such a unique experience.

This is from our listener Maisy.

How I didn't know you could.

It's called Growing Up in a Haunted Dorm. A real childhood story. Hi Karin and Sabrina. Could you imagine having people over to your house be like, "Hey, I'm going to have friends over. Come to my college.

Come to my college." Also, I feel like honestly like having raising kids on a college campus also in a way feels very safe because

just through gossip and everything like all people on college on the campus are going to know.

Yeah. The kids And so you have a million eyes and babysitters on your kids at all times.

Yeah. Okay. Hi K and Serena. My name is Maisie and I'm a huge fan of the podcast. I wanted to share a bundle of paranormal experiences from my early childhood.

A bundle.

All surrounded around a place that most people don't grow up in, a college dorm. From the late '9s into the early 2000s, my family lived on the first floor of a dormatory at Arizona Western College. My mom was the volleyball coach. My dad was the football coach and head resident.

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And that made the dorm our home.

Wow. I'm so curious what the actual dorm looked like.

Well, we're going to get some tidbits.

When they go when they do those like games or whatever in Harry Potter and they all have those like little tents on the field, but then you enter the tent and it's like massive. That's what I'm picturing.

I mean, it was probably magical for a kid

cuz it's definitely bigger than a normal dorm.

Yeah, they probably have multiple rooms. Yeah, probably not.

It's like a apartment,

but it probably doesn't have all the bells and whistles. But yeah, actually when I went back to LA, this is now like 5 years ago, one of the trips, I went and saw some of the new dorms on campus, and they look like

Wait, they're new dorms.

Yeah.

Where?

Where? Um, Dhini.

Are those the newer ones anyway?

No, those are the oldest ones. But they literally look like fancy new apartments.

Damn.

Yeah.

Kids these days. Yeah. Um like they had a couple Jamba Juice right there.

Yeah, I think so.

Wow, that's nice to live right there and

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then walk across to Jamba.

Um okay, so my sister and I had the run of the place playing in the lobby, riding Barbie cars through the courtyard, bikes through the halls, which we later found out terrified the students cuz it's total shining vibes. [laughter] And we would be watched over by students and staff who adored us. But the dorm didn't just come with college energy. It came with something else. Even as a little kid, I could feel the energy. We never liked going to the second floor because it felt dark, heavy, and even when the lights were on, it felt a little spooky. I don't know how to describe it then, but now I understand that I was sensing energy. I was already tuned in. One of my clearest memories happened when my grandparents came to visit from Montana. My grandma invited me to sleep in one of the empty dorm rooms with her. It had two twin beds, one on each side. So, I woke up in [clears throat] the middle of the night to muffled talking. And when I sat up, I saw two men standing at the foot of my bed. This also makes me think that this dorm was empty for a reason.

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One of the men was tall with long red beard and a straw hat. The other was shorter with brown hair, wearing overalls and chewing on what looked like hay. The shorter one looked up at me and said, "Oh, she's up." I dove under the blanket, then crawled into bed with my grandma. She didn't question it, just pulled me in. And the next morning, I tried to tell my parents, but they told me it was just a bad dream. But I knew it wasn't.

Uh, hell no. I feel like I mean, it's skewed coming from us because obviously we believe in the paranormal, and I feel like everywhere is haunted, but like if someone told me a ghost story specifically on a college campus, I feel like I would believe them.

I know.

More than most other places. It's tough though because I understand as a parent if you're not experiencing anything and if everything's pleasant to you or even if you are experiencing anything and you know you're going to live there for a really long time like you don't want to like add to the fear.

Yeah. And also like differentiating between what is like a nightmare or imagination versus a real experience.

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But years later when my grandmother was dying from cancer, we visited her to say goodbye. She had kept handwritten journals and tape recordings when she could no longer write. And in one of her entries, she wrote about that night.

It confirmed everything I experienced.

This is like

she had seen them, too.

Holy

I looked at my dad and yelled, "I told you."

He just nodded, admitting they didn't want to scare me more since we still had to live there. [sighs and gasps]

So, she saw the guys, heard them say, "Oh, she's up." But that man came back. Not long after, I had another encounter with a short brown-haired man. I was sleeping with my head at the foot of the bed cuz kids are weird. And in the middle of the night, he popped up from underneath and yelled. Just yelled. Startled me awake and then he vanished.

Under the bed?

Yeah. Literally like

You have too many stories about people under the bed today. This is scary. [clears throat] That's like the classic like ghost story monster trope and I

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feel like we almost never encounter it. Well, I'm also imagining these beds are like higher up cuz like I had my bed lofted.

Yeah.

Needless to say, I never slept with my head at the foot of the bed ever again. And I still don't know why or what he wanted and why he popped up and yelled. Okay. But also, we were the chaos cuz here's the twist. After a while, my sister and I leaned into the spooky energy cuz like if the dorm's haunted, we may as well play into it, right? And we started scaring students on purpose. One of our favorite pranks is we would hide in the lockers in the women's locker room during my mom's volleyball games. Right before halftime when the team would storm in stressed and sweaty, ready for coach reaming, we would jump out and scare the ever loving soul out of all of them. To us, hilarious to them, emotional terrorism from children. [laughter] I mean, could you imagine you're losing a game and then your coach's kids pop out like haunted goblins? I think it's hilarious, too. Uh, I have even more stories tied to that campus. Creepy buildings, unsettling student experiences, and things my parents only

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started admitting to me years later. Jeez. While nothing truly dark or harmful ever happened to me personally, there are definitely some stories from students that weren't so nice, which I'm going to share. There was even one specific dorm room from what I remember that stayed empty because of the heavy, almost suffocating energy inside. No [clears throat] one ever said it out loud, but everyone avoided it. So, here's my reflection. I truly believe that the land itself was sacred and had seen a lot and not all of it good. Like I mentioned, there were definitely dark things that happened there. I'm gathering some more facts and stories about those. But what's wild is I felt like something there always protected me. Maybe it was something in me, something that awakened young. I was already doing my own little rituals as a child before I even knew that they were rituals. Maybe it was the people around me, my parents' players who came from all over the world, brought their own beliefs, energy, and protection. But one of them was a Native American who lived on a reservation, and she taught us so

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much and radiated calm, grounded power. I loved being around her. Or maybe it was my grandmother who grew up on the Black Feet Reservation in Montana. While we are not Native American ourselves, her life was deeply shaped by the land, the people, and the culture she lived among. That [clears throat] influence wo itself into our family story in quiet, powerful ways. And I carry a deep respect and gratitude for these traditions. Whatever it was, even with so much happening around me, we were safe. And that's why I feel called to tell this story now. But my experiences didn't end when we left the dorms, because everywhere I have lived, everywhere I have traveled, even now, I have more experiences. I've grown into my craft and now have a full space dedicated to diving even deeper into it.

Oh, I love that.

It's simply who I am. You were called to it

and honestly I love it

or born into it.

Truly, I feel honored to remain connected to whatever exists beyond the veil. If you're interested, I would love to share more stories from childhood to today. Yes, always. See you on the other side, Maisie.

Wow, what a cool childhood.

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Dang, that's a very cool childhood

and unique.

Mhm. I can't imagine doing it for like multiple years, too. I would because I don't know how long Maisie lived there for but I could imagine like say this is the like writer in me the creative being like okay she grew up on the college campus from ages like 5 to 12 then she went off to like do high school wherever like the fantasy in me is like she goes back to college to this school.

Yeah.

And like is reacquainted with all the spirits.

That's the movie movie idea.

Damn. Except like it's kind of her real life. I know.

I wonder if she has ever gone back there.

Maisie, let us know.

Tell us.

Tell us everything.

I also love the name Maisie.

I know. It's a very nice name.

I met a Maisie only one time ever when I was 12 on a cruise [laughter]

and she was from like Tennessee or something and she had like this deep southern accent where it was like me and a bunch of other 12-year-old girls, you know, like like 13 to eight, like the whole crew.

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Yeah.

And she had these big like fake press on nails. I don't think they were press on. I think she like actually went and got her nails. She's like 12 and she was constantly like going like this and I've never forgotten her cuz I thought she was

so cool

and coolest name.

Yeah. Okay. A college dorm from 1854 and the neighboring class building from 1748. Oh, and another thing about Maisie [laughter] Maisie from the cruise.

What if Maisie listens?

Oh my gosh.

Maisy remembers you from the cruise.

Maisy would not remember.

Karin from Vermont.

Just

she had boring plain nails. this silent girl who was like, "What?" It was her birthday on the cruise, so we all went and had dinner and she ate frog legs.

How French of her.

I know. I was like, "Holy you're very daring girl with your fake nails."

Like, I really want to find this Maisie. I feel like it wouldn't be that hard. Stuck out to me

cuz you could figure out what days you went.

Did your parents work for All State? And when you were around 11 to 13 years old, did you go on a cruise? Started in

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Athens, Greece, and ended in Venice, Italy.

Did you have your birthday on a cruise?

Slide into your into Kin's DM.

I have a photo of you that I took of you eating frog legs.

This This is my new like obsession. I want to find Maisie.

She was blonde. Very blonde. Cuz I have like a whole a whole uh

you know, like one of those What are they the like old cameras? Like the windup?

Yeah.

Whatever. I had like a bunch of those,

the disposable cameras.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so I I like more recently like looked at photos from them.

Post it on our stories like, "Is this you?"

If my parents didn't throw it out in their uh move.

hauntings on centuries old campus

Hello, Sabrina and Karen. My most favorite podcast hostesses and their ghost skeleton. If ever I have my earbuds in and one of my family members tries to talk to me, they wait to see until I turn the volume down or I glare at them. If I glare, they know I'm listening to Two Girls from Ghost and that they need to wait a bit. I love the tude. So good. On with my tail. I've

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always been both terrified by and enamored with ghost stories. I still remember wrapping both of my arms around my dad's leg as a little kid as he stood in our living room trying to decide if he wanted to change the channel from a version of A Christmas Carol with no remotes in the mid1 1970s. The ghost of Christmas past had me locked onto my dad for dear life. I couldn't look away.

Yeah.

My favorite ghost story is The Legend of Sleepy Hollow.

Growing up in a small village in Vermont, complete with a covered bridge and a population of about 250 people. The I from Woodstock. The idea of Sleepy Hollow and the Horsemen was very real to me. My favorite horror movies are the Swedish version of Let the Right One In and the others. Wait,

the Swedish version?

Swedish version. We got to see that.

Yeah. Sometimes the scariest movies are

Swedish films are

and just like international like the El Orphanado.

I'll never stop thinking about that.

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That one so scary.

Yes.

Okay. I don't read much horror now, but when I was in the second grade, I was a precocious reader. And in the 80s and Stephen King's classics being very popular, I was eight trying to read them. My parents told me not to read them. No argument. Well, that meant that I was just going to hide in the back of our Subaru hatchback and read Pet Cemetery, Gujo, Firest Starter, and Christine.

I'm obsessed. [laughter] I love that.

I still can't sleep with the closet door open. Christine is the only book that made me jump while reading now. I want to read that. We Eric brought that up recently on Campfire Stories. Like the haunted car situation. Yeah.

Yeah. Cuz none of us understood what he was talking about. It was embarrassing for all of us.

We felt like idiots.

Yeah. But I didn't have any ghost stories until I went to college and I moved into a dorm in an old town in eastern Pennsylvania.

Where?

Yeah, please tell us. She doesn't.

H

It's a lovely campus with tall modeled

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sycamores whose roots make the sidewalks buckle. Buildings of field stone and brick. Some dating back to before the American Revolution. I knew friends who had odd experiences in our dorm and in the fourstory art studio building. Okay, another clue. Four-story art studio building. Eastern Pennsylvania University. Should I start doing the [laughter]

I'm going to do a Google search.

Yeah. But the close proximity of the music building is what kept us all a bit antsy when working late into the night. The music building filled with practice studios and a chapel. Okay, there's a chapel. The chapel was built in 1748. We're getting more clues. Not only that, but it had been used in the Revolution as a hospital. Another big clue. This would probably explain why my friend Steph woke up one night, looked out the window to the small balcony off of her dorm room, and saw a pair of worn bridges and boots with hobnail souls emerging from under the shade. Our dorm was only 8 ft from that building, which was named by Reader's Digest as the most haunted college building in the country.

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Okay. Readers Digesta most haunted college building.

College building

in the US.

In the US,

Pennsylvania. So many clues. This is like riddled with clues.

I know.

Yet we have no answer.

Gettysburg College. It's the first name that comes up. There's also University of Pennsylvania. Alagany University. There's so many. Or Alageney College. But Gettysburg College is what comes up when you search Readers Digest. Masonic College building. Okay. And I looked up if they have an art studio. And if they do, an art building in arts and music are hosted at Schmucker Hall. Watch. for like so wrong. Yeah, the one that came up when I was searching Eastern Pennsylvania was Eastern University.

Okay, now I got to look at images of Schmucker Hall and it is four stories. Boom. We found your college. You gave too much information. [laughter]

No, this has to be right. Oh, and she said see attached. Oh, is it

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for Oh, it used to be called So, this was the This is the picture of the old music building and it was called the Moravian Seminary for young ladies. That was hard to read.

Wait, it's Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. My brother went to Bethlehem or he went to Lehi, which is in Bethlehem. So, is it Lehi? What other universities are in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania?

Wait, but it looks just like Schmucker Hall. You sent us on a goose chase. Okay, there's Lehi and there's Moravian University which is focus on liberal arts.

Well, this is very confusing.

It would be less confusing if you told us where

tell us. Well, we can look up the name of that building. What's the name of the building in the old photo?

The one in the photo says the Moravian Seminary for young

Moravian University.

Okay. [laughter] [gasps]

Well, we still figured it out,

man. Did we? I still like am questioning if it's even right.

It's for sure it's this Bethlehem.

Okay, finally we're there.

So many clues for me when things

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happened. It was only upon thinking about them a minute or so later that I realized that what I just experienced wasn't possible. My roommate and I had a large room with towering ceilings. Our heat register was always off but clanging away at night and we were perpetually warm. I was often in the room alone which was when I felt things and heard things. One night, I heard people walking around the room above ours. And then I realized the sounds weren't coming from upstairs, but between them and me, like the 10 ft of air above my head. Ooh.

Not on any floor. Another time, the dorm was quiet, and I heard someone come up the echoing stairwell. I heard the swinging door to my floor open and shut, and then nothing.

No one was there.

No one continued on through the hall. No one turned and went back down or up the stairs. They just vanished. My nana was very open to and gifted with things beyond the veil. She loved to tell me about our Romani ancestors. More on her another time because she was really amazing.

And when she heard that I was experiencing these things, she put

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together a little packet of herbs for me for protection. I love your grandmother. I hadn't felt threatened, but I was scared when I was alone at night. I often slept with my back smack up against the wall. After shaking some herbs on my skin before bed, I settled in comfortably, but it was not a comfortable night. Once the light was out and I was under the covers, back against the wall, I felt a presence swoop in very close to me. It radiated insult. My eyes were tightly shut, but an impression formed to my head. This was a woman in a dark dress from the 1800s, which would make sense given my dorm had started in 1854. Oh she did tell us [laughter] as a seminary for young ladies. That's another huge. We had a picture and she said the original name. Sorry, I'm blaming everyone.

We had to do all this like searching and [laughter] it's literally right in front of us.

But that was fun, wasn't it?

It was It was We went on a little scavenger hunt. It was fun.

She [clears throat] was bent forward, a face not far from mine. I can't explain

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what happened next, but I have experienced it twice that night and when my nana helped me find her grave site when I was lost in the cemetery. I didn't hear it externally, but I sensed it inside of me. Someone clearly saying, "I have never done anything to you." And then it was gone.

What a strange sentence,

right? It's like, "Did you think I was mad at you?" Like, what? Oh god, it would be a horrible eternity to spend your whole

anything to you

afterlife thinking that everyone's mad at you.

So sad. That is torture.

That's how

That's so sad.

I brushed those herbs off as best I could and then I never used them again. As an art major, I spent a lot of time in the art building, which was attached to the very haunted music building. I would hear friends working in their studios after dark and when I called to say good night to them, everyone had already gone home. That would mean that they hadn't been the ones making the noise.

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I was the only one there.

Four floors, about 40 rooms. I hated having to go down those long empty hallways, closed studio doors on either side, and then down the creaking wooden stairs into the yawning gray shadows of the first floor. At the top of the stairs was a light switch for the first floor hall. So, I gathered my courage. I snapped the light off, barreled down the stairs, lit only by an elevator room at the end of the building. I was all braver for those first few stairs. But when I was equidistant from the second floor landing and the door to the outside and the fresh air, I felt very much not alone. I could only push myself to keep going despite fear, relieved to have finally get outside and take in a gulp of cold air. Of course, there was another way out, but that was through, you guessed it, the music building.

I thought she was going to say like jump out the window.

I know. I was saying the same [laughter] thing. A big slide from the

parkour from the bell tower at the top. the parkour [laughter] down the building scale. Spidey webs.

Spidey monkey. My brother used to do

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that. Like literally he would remove his screen from our home window on the second floor and he would parkour out of the house.

When in winter

when he was like

just all seasons or when there was like nice snow pile below.

No, all seasons.

How did he get down?

Parkour.

You can't parkour just on open air. He would like he would go like the like side of the roof and then like the wall and then down. Graham, that's dangerous.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

Christian had outside of his room the like roof of the first floor had extended.

So in the winter I never did it cuz I wasn't brave or stupid. [laughter]

But in the winter he and my dad would go up on the roof and then they would make like a huge snow pile below and then jump into it from the roof.

Snow can get hard. I know. Here's the thing.

Survived.

I only broke bones doing sports. Christian broke bones just

jumping out

doing life. [laughter]

I only went through the music building twice in the dark by the light of an

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exit sign. Shivers. I love your podcast so much. And your friendship is the bomb in the midst of a lot of awful things going on in the world. That's really nice.

All tight to each other. Lastly, I was listening to TG while driving the other day, not long after I started listening to the show. I'm a newbie. And as I drove at dusk, I saw dull flashing out of the corner of my eye. And I looked to see the audio display blinking, then going blank and then returning to its usual letters and numbers.

What?

I It did this in a loop over and over again. There was no interruption to the show.

Pranking your car.

But the display went berserk for a bit and then stopped completely.

My car is 2016 and it has never done that before. Keep up your fantastic work. See you on the other side. Melissa in Pennsylvania.

Well, Melissa, that is a haunted ass school. Those are really pretty. I like the Bethlehem. It's beautiful.

I know a couple people went to Lehigh, too. I can't believe I'm so glad you went to LMU cuz obviously [laughter] we

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met we wouldn't met, but I can't believe you didn't go to Princeton. Like,

one, I would never have gotten into Princeton.

I forgot that you have to get admitted. You can't just choose. And two, I grew up going like literally I ran those I ran that campus in high school.

It's like the prettiest campus I've ever seen.

Yeah, but it was my high school experience. Like we literally would go to Princeton campus all the time.

LMU is also always what it is like one of the prettiest campuses.

Different beauty.

Yeah.

There's like

So it's not like you left one beauty for something ugly.

No.

Some of these universities you guys I'll go. Wait, someone recently emailed us saying like the school I went to is like the ugliest campus. [laughter] We were like, we have to look this up.

Sorry.

And it was pretty ugly. It was like concrete buildings with no windows.

I I needed something pretty. Christian was even worse than me when it came to the aesthetics of a campus. Christian, my younger brother, ended up going to LMU, too. But he touring one of the colleges in Texas. He said he didn't want to go there because he didn't like what type of grass they had. [laughter]

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What kind of grass did they use of grass?

It was too sharp and thick bladed. He didn't like it.

It, you know, you can't fault a man for knowing what he likes and doesn't like

sometimes. And that's a, you know, campuses have lots of grass. So, if you don't like the grass, and that's a big deal,

you're going to be thinking about

there was there. Freshman year, I remember during a rainstorm, our friend Chase and my this girl Sally who lived across the dorm, we got dish soap and we went to sunken gardens. It was like the like big quad, grassy quad that was between like the freshman dorms

and we put the dish soap on the water

and like the muddy grass and we like started like mudsliding.

That's so fun. [laughter]

And PE came up to us and they're like, "What are you doing? Like you can't do this. you're ruining the property. And we're like, we're having fun. And he just like rolled his head and was like, you got to stop. And then left.

Oh man.

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Yeah.

Chase might be a supernatural being because I think he existed in every group with everyone doing everything all the time.

And he still does.

How does he do it?

Social butterfly.

Yeah. He has like a thousand unread text messages. So

just like you. [laughter]

Yeah. But I finally did what you told me to do and I all as red. So now after doing that last week,

what are you at?

107.

Nice.

Yeah. So I haven't responded 107 times to people in the past week. Although I will say there's like there's like at least 15 that I think are like Cyber Monday. Like

Well, there were also a lot on Thanksgiving that you and I are both in.

I still haven't opened that.

But I just felt like I should include you in those group texts.

Thank you.

Yeah. [laughter] Thanks for including me. Um, and thanks for including us in sharing your ghost stories. We hope you continue to do so. If you have any stories in any topic, it can also be a topic that we've already covered because we will revisit them or we'll find a way to include it in another topic. So, please email your

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ghost stories to us no matter what. Our email is two girls one ghost podcast@gmail.com. It's also a new year and lots of new things are happening. We're planning on new merch for the year. We also have some exciting bonuses on Patreon like bonus episodes every month, episodes ad free one week early. We also are doing witch class. We also have book club the end of this month. We are reading we used to live here by Marcus Cleer and we'll be meeting at the end of January to discuss. So if that interests you, please uh join us over on Patreon. Thank you to Jamie Ryan who edits and produces our podcast and our producer and social media guru Emma Leventter. Thank you guys so much. We love you all very much and we will see you on the other side.

Very spooky.