The Aliens Forgot Their Cow?! | The Rendlesham Forest Incident (Ep 301)

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very spooky hi I have a ghost story for you already oh yeah but this is two girls one ghost two girls one ghost and we your ghostess say that's Karen hello and I'm Sabrina how appropriate we have ghost St this is a ghost podcast and you have a ghost story it's so appropriate so I was in Atlanta this past weekend for pay had like a live show and Maggie freeling and Laura Norton and all the Tenderfoot type people were there and Maggie's partner is this like ex special ops Viking looking guy like he's massive

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and Maggie's tiny and he just he reminds me of have you ever met Brad Le uh yeah yeah he's like that he's just huge our friendly has a massive husband B she has this series on Instagram where it's like big Brad little and like insert something big Brad or little cup and it look like the tiniest little cup and he's actually holding like a chalice but it looks like a teacup in his hands so he's like that and I don't even know how it came up oh Maggie was like oh Greg has a ghost story but she was like the caveat is he doesn't really believe in ghosts and I was like I feel like that's half of the emails we get too where people are like I am a skeptic but here's the most terrifying thing that's ever happened to me yeah or like I've never experienced anything paranormal but this and happened and this happened and this happed by aliens and there was sleep paralysis and then my pet Chihuahua came back from the grave and tracked his little Dirty Paws through my house yeah you're haunted yeah you're haunted so Greg's haunted or was when he was 15 him

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his younger sister and his mom lived in this house in Connecticut mhm and he's super vague about like what was happening but clearly stuff ramped up to a point he said like he started like hearing things and like it would be like people walking around as if someone was home but no one else would be home the classic beginnings of a haunted house right it got to a point where he said he thinks he saw a physical Apparition of something H again unclear but it got to a point where his mother called the landlord and was like hey we have to break the lease because of the hauntings guess what the landlord's response was I'm so sorry I thought she had left are you kidding me that's like probably the worst response to ever hear that's so

The Haunting of Greg's Childhood Home

scary isn't it terrifying I thought she had left who is she that's the question and what the hell happened to all the other people who' lived there before and what had they done she had left to think that she had left and how intense was it to need to break the lease right I feel

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like we all can we all have the stamina to endorse some light level hauntings right so it must have been a littleit must have been enough where yeah if you're maybe she wasn't sharing everything with her son you know don't spook the child well because I think it sounded like Greg was almost experiencing the most hm I wonder if he remembers all the details or if he started to block it out does it become a little fuzzy I don't know he also having been special ops had like really high clearance but it was specific to what he was doing in the military so he's like I don't believe in aliens because I have high clearance like he had the highest clearance in his that sounds like something someone would say who had high clearance who gets asked about aliens a lot and then I was like also there's probably a higher clearance that you don't know about because you are not cleared to know about that higher clearance oh 100% I think whoever we can think of as being the highest person to have clearance is still not the highest like this is a conspiracy broadcast and

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aliens are real okay speaking of aliens should we just get into it yes you have your green on I should have done the same I got this from Amazon cuz you're a pro Amazon Shopper you need to do like an Amazon storefront but can I tell you what I so I ordered this on Amazon and I get this like package that I'm like what is this I'm not kidding I think it's the same brand but I think they accidentally sent me like an outdoor fire pit cover instead of this swe you cover yeah do you need the fire pit cover I thought you got a free like whole fire pit for a second I wish no um and I was like well this is not the sweater I ordered nice the metal BD okay so today in honor of Christmas we're going to talk about the renam forest incident I know nothing about this the Woodbridge Airfield is an American Air Force Base in eastern England and on December 26th 1980 it was the site of one of the most infamous and most documented reported alien encounters SL sightings to date

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I'm on the edge of my seat I'm like do they get abducted do they shake hands do they have tea together I have no idea I guess I should clarify UFO sightings and I have an audio clip to play for you Wood Bridge field was the sight of something that Witnesses say seem to be taken from science fiction hey this is Erie this is strange here some want to look at the spots in the ground it was not an aircraft uh it was an aircraft it speeded up and it came towards the lodge come back here somebody put a beam on him you're going to have to be back 10 15 ft I see it okay fine okay lights off he took this long to Doc flying saucers mysterious lights and even aliens I'm so curious because they seem so calm when they're saying like put the beam on someone put the beam on it are

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they actually [ __ ] themselves when they're trying to give their orders it's so crazy I literally have that so there's another clip will play in a little bit but like it's an 18-minute clip which you can listen to the whole thing and we'll link it in the show notes of this episode it's 18 minutes

The Rendlesham Forest Incident: Background

and you even hear them say it's so Eerie it's so strange but like yeah they're talking like military people it's like very but inside are probably like shaking yeah so this is the renle shim Forest incident sometimes called or referred to as the Roswell of the UK oh mhm also I want to shout out Payne and high strange because he basically sent me all the audio files and interviews that they did with Charles Halt and Jim pennison who are two of the witnesses the original like were there the night of nights of oh multiple nights yes okay so as some background rendam Forest is a 3700 acre Woodland in suffk England it is a large recre area with bike paths

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running paths places to camp and so much more and as of I think like 2005 they created a UFO Trail like literally in honor of oh that's so cool I like that yeah so kind of like Roswell yeah touristy right for people like us who want to want to see something when we go there exactly the only thing is because the Royal Air Force Woodbridge Airfield is such a it's like a military base there's not much like it's not Roswell in the way that Roswell is they didn't feed into it it's not like a town that you can go visit and it's all alien themed but there is one trail that you can hike that's the UFO Trail in 1943 much of the area was cleared for construction of the royal Air Force Woodbridge Airfield which we're going to call RAF a a lot of of words RAF was constructed in 1943 as a military Airfield during World War II to assist any damaged aircrafts returning from German raids then around 1947 as tensions are rising with Russia during like the Cold War the United States took

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ownership of the airbase and it has been home to various fighter squadrons gradually it was phased down during the early 90s as of 2006 it now operates as the ministry of Defense Woodbridge operated by the British Army and then there was like plans to like phase it out completely and no longer have it as a military base but then they were like just kidding we need it oh okay because the world is scary yeah okay so the renam forest incident took place at the end of 1980 and during that time the F was operated as a twin Airfield for the bentwaters 81st 79th and 20th tactical Fighter Wing and then the 78th Fighter inceptor Squadron and there was an American High School that was built on the base so for people with kids to have their kids go to school yeah that's all of my mom's stories growing up cuz my grandpa was in the Air Force so like all of her stories are about Bas yeah being on Bas living on base so now you have

Witness Accounts and Initial Reactions

context so there's all these different squadrons of American military men men

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and women and families living on the base and this brings us to the incident over the course of 3 days multiple Witnesses stationed at the Woodbridge Airfield reported seeing UFOs and so these have been based on the like Freedom of Information Act these are accessible to the public in the documents they say that two UFO incidents were investigated by the Air Force when over the course of a couple days a triangular luminous flying object with a red light on top and a series of blue lights underneath was spotted so it's the same thing for 3 days all these different people saw this exact same aircraft not just like numerous unidentified objects there are numerous and it was two specific incidents over the course of three days okay another description in the document States citing a circular translucent ground hugging disc with various lights moving erratically about the night sky one of which occasionally beamed a shaft of white light downward hm so like the

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typical she suck up the cow sucking up the cow and there are Barnyard animals involved in this story no way I don't think any were hurt hi not the cows December 26th 1980 the day after Christmas boxing day which is why we're doing this story right around the holidays with our tree our spooky Christmas tree with a million little spends all over I can't get over how they're hung anyway it's 3:00 a.m. when Security Patrol near the East Gate of the RAF Woodbridge saw strange lights descending into the nearby rolam Forest H naturally they're like this seems concerning what's going on did an aircraft crash in the woods so they call it into Command Center one of these men who's working in the command center his name is Jim penniston he is or was at that time fifth generation military Security Police a flight Chief staff sergeant and he was doing his job I think he had like just done like some

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Patrol thing that he had to do and he walks back into the command center to get a cup of coffee mhm when someone else there is like hey peniston they're calling for you on the radio and he's like what's going on and they're like there's an incident over by the East Gate you have to head over there right now and pennison's like okay well like what's going on and they're like they'll brief you when you get there it's super strange so yeah so peniston's like what the [ __ ] am I walking into right and also I'm confused about being on this bace and having all the technology that they had nothing showed up on were they not already being like Wait nothing showed up on the radar so I think something did show up on the radar but it like kind of it was confusing because otherwise I'd be extra spooked if there were just lights in the woods and none of our equipment picked up on anything they did pick up on something and I

The Investigation Begins

think like going out to it they were like it must be just like an aircraft that and also keep in mind this is like cold war stuff so like they as the US Army base are like like what the [ __ ] is

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this like a spy situation what are we walking into so pennison's like okay well this is really weird and strange but he goes over to the east gate and he's like what's going on apparently the man who's patrolling just points over to the forest oh my God and there in the forest is a light a red/ orange light flickering and the closest penison could describe it he was like it looked and glowed as if something was on fire but the strangest thing was that that over top it was this like white light bubble like almost like a Force Shield yeah is what I'm imagining it that's so strange I was picturing you know those little rubber toys where you pop like you put them why have we talked about these recently I think that's why I'm thinking of it cuz you brought it up a few episodes ago oh we talked about it with Georgia which is an episode that's coming out next year oh yeah teaser that's we talk about putting them in our mouths yes okay so I'm thinking of that where it's like just like a big rubber Dome I'm also picturing is it the Simpsons oh yes where they live in the

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bubble it's The Simpsons movie that's the whole movie so now penniston like his order I guess like based on protocols and stuff is to call this in he's like this is a security problem now we have to call it in report it and so a team of five servicemen now including peniston head into the forest to go investigate and they approach the scene of what they think is an unidentified crashed aircraft so like an aircraft from it's not theirs it's not it's not a US military aircraft instead they are confused to see strange and unusual lights and a craft like object hovering above the ground perhaps landing and that was one thing is when penison got to East Gate he was like did something crash and the people patrolling were like no the way that this object came in and down from the sky it looked purposefully as if it was Landing knowing this land like rendam Forest is

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all these wooded trees if you look at an aerial shot of it which I don't have but just like a canopy of tree are there any clearings not really not like big enough not even big enough for a helicopter to come in and land so this is strange another strange thing so they see this object hovering almost Landing it was definitely not a crashed aircraft and there's a photo of a man named burrow one of the five men who's like in this patrol service he reported hearing a noise like a woman was screaming and animals making noise so there's a Farmland like right next to rim oh my god do you think a woman was abducted and just doesn't know and she was screaming but her memory was wiped she thought it was a night terar I for sure believe and I'm so curious if there are people who live in this area who have like weird encounters from that weekend where they've lost time or anything because there are so many moments where like occasionally flashes

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of beam light would go down from these objects in the night sky and I'm like what are they doing yeah 100% people

The Craft and Its Characteristics

being abducted they heard someone actively being abducted and shrieking that's what I believe me to We believe everything what do we not believe okay so this object was triangular in shape 3 m wide emitting a pulsing bright light it appeared to be moving through the trees glowing and metallic and the patrol men reported that the animal anal on the nearby Farm were going into a frenzy which trust your animals trust your pets it also reminds me of um nope where like the horses and all of the farm animals are going crazy I was thinking about nope a few days ago when someone posted like a weird Cloud on Tik Tok or whatever oh yeah and I was like ah that was such a good detail and nope the One Cloud that just never moved what was the cartoon where the whole sky was aircrafts what I want to say chicken little but it's not that wait the sky was aircraft or like they lived are you

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thinking of like the Jetson where they all like no like it was basically like the entire what we thought was the sky was actually like a reflection that like spacecrafts were admitting I have isck idea maybe I'm not sure I've ever seen Chicken Little so I can't tell you someone's screaming at us right now so amongst this chaos Jim pennison who's the guy I was just talking about in the beginning he is having trouble reaching command he's never had this problem before so there's something interfering with Communications and calms and at some point I think he gets separated from the rest of the group and he's taking photos with his camera and he begins to see a bright white light and the atmosphere around him changed like it felt like he was walking through static that's so weird and he kept going forward really nervous yeah and he's moving forward and he's moving towards his bright light and the bright light exploded so bright that he like all of his instincts he thinks like some

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explosion is happening he drops to the ground terrified and he was like despite all of my training I knew that this was nothing I had ever trained for Wow and he fully believed he was going to die isn't that so scary ter to be in that moment and yeah to be like the most equipped you could be as a person because you've just gotten all this training and realize you're so incredibly helpless you are just a little tiny human yeah cuz you have no idea what you're dealing yeah when the light dissipated and he could finally get his bearings he stands up and he makes note of a craft so close to him he could touch it it was black and it was glasslike and there's a picture of what it looked like to him it had beams of light pouring out from underneath it and he recounts that it was solid fixed to the ground oh wow he drew it and he you know knowing aircrafts he works on a military Air Force Base like he is looking for exhaust he's looking for or anything

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that you could recognize from an aircraft mhm and he doesn't see anything

The Symbols and Their Significance

there's no evidence of how this craft flies like it just scientifically based on his aircraft knowledge is like there's nothing indicating that this can travel or work the way that we know or slice in between trees in a densely packed Forest exactly and then that electric feeling comes back he still cannot connect to command center he is alone with this craft and then as he's like circumnavigating it looking around it he sees symbols lettering he recounts in it's episode four of high strange he recounts being like few like I'm going to see it says NASA like I'm going to see it's going to say where this is from like like what country it is but he realizes these are symbols he has never seen before the closest thing he can compare it to are like glyphs oh interesting I also find it interesting just that

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like an alien species would label their craft cuz that feels like a human thing to do well are aliens just humans from the future or wherever or from the past and we are the version of a reset Humanity honestly wouldn't be surprised if aliens are Egyptians okay we are same train of thought cuz that's exactly where I was at as they had things going on they understood energy they knew way more pyramid cons iracy land I mean that spacecraft kind of looks pyramid like that is true there are points there are points they were not as phallic obsessed no they were more advanced than we they were and they loved cats and they loved cats which makes me love them okay so he is like examining these symbols and all of a sudden that light flashes again and when he could see again the craft was gone penisin was so unsettled he truly he honestly was like is this even real am I actually seeing this or am I

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hallucinating like he was so confounded and so confused because it was so out of anything he could explain right that he was like I don't know if I'm your whole reality shattering in front of you yeah you're like oh my God am I suddenly hallucinating or am I experiencing psychosis right exactly he could not determine what was real and what was not and to this day the events of that evening are confounding and traumatic this is a quote from when he was interviewed for high strange everything here is a trigger there's no way around it what I was seeing was stuff I had never encountered in my life or since then and the trauma of dealing with it he said I've always been able to tell you everything it wasn't but there is a problem when it comes to what it was I do not know and he even says like in that episode he's like I'm going to have nightmares tonight because I'm recounting yeah also so I in doing research for this episode I was like

The Aftermath and Ongoing Mysteries

purely just trying to find the timeline events like a very like straightforward

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timeline of events which it's impossible to find straightforward timeline because a lot of I'm telling you the story in the way like how it happened in the in the reality like timeline of it but most of the accounts are kind of disjointed because it's different people's perspectives and like a higher officer put it all together oh okay and it's like I came in on the 28th and this is what happened on the 28th but then going back and hearing from other people this is whated happened on the 26 this is what happened on the 28th kind all over all over the place yeah the information was disseminated in like a disorganized way but Jim penniston has written multiple books one of them is the timeline and I was like hell yeah it's going to be so straightforward listen I opened this ebook on my Kindle it is 1,066 Pages Jim is there like you know when you read fantasy books when you open it up and there's a map that shows you kind of like all the lands are does he not have that on the very first page

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like here's you know 1200 BC nope it starts with the brief history of Woodbridge wow Jim can write those fingers are flying and then the epilog is a code within a code about an ancient code cuz I think he's trying to understand like the hieroglyphs and the symbols that he saw if you're curious and want to read more about it it's called the rendam Enigma book one timeline and I think this is what he thinks the symbols look like oh oh they totally look Egyptian this is also reminding me of when we would make up secret languages as kids or like in Middle School we'd like type to each other on the computer using webdings like me and friends or whatever and then you have to it's like when you send me that freaking postcard oh yeah I forgot to and I was like what the [ __ ] is this I was like figure it out I Creed a cipher like you got to figure this out eventually but you had handwritten it so I'm like how am I supposed to recreate this

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on got to figure it out I think I I mean eventually I did I think you did pretty quick I might have told you I need I was like what is this Cre what have you done okay so this we're still it's a night of the 26th December 26th the only issue with pennison's account of The Craft is he's alone so of all of the things that happen over the course of these three nights this is the only portion of it where there's no other witness that peniston was alone which is also even scarier for him because he's already questioning reality he's like is it real I was alone no one else saw it and I don't think his photos that he took ended up like again it was interfering with all technology and everything so I don't think he ended up getting anything on camera so the rest of the service team did see enough because as they're patrolling they see more lights in the sky crafts hovering over the farm and more So at around 4:00 a.m. I believe it was protocoled to call the local police and that's what they did they call the local police who came in and they

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scoffed and they were like that's just the light from the orphan Ness Lighthouse which is Miles Away on the coast and also how does that just like that makes no sense okay so look here's the map Lighthouse is here redel Forest is over here so a light from a lighthouse is supposed to travel over all the hills and terrain and somehow penetrate inside underneath the canopy of the trees in a ly packed forest and then simultaneously be in multiple places at once and create massive flashes of light that penison thinks it's an explosion and causes all the farm animals to go crazy and is emitting beams down from the sky wouldn't that be a nightly event then right rather than just two nights over the course of three nights so the suffi constabulatory no constabulary doesn't matter how you say it still a new word to me there's a file on the case that was released in 2005

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under the UK's Freedom of Information Act and that also can be accessed on their website but there's a letter dated July 28th 1999 written by inspector Mike topless nice I like it he notes that one of the police constables who attended the scene on the first night returned to the site in daylight in case he had missed anything because since all of this everyone's like well the police didn't actually investigate it enough or they're trying to cover it up cuz they went out there that night and they're like we don't see anything like what they saw they were like that's caused by animals there's like indentations and they're like an animal did that and if there's like tree branches broken they're like an animal did that which I understand yeah yeah yeah and also if you're the police coming out there and you didn't see any of that of course your first explanation is going to be something that you can base in reality yeah but this isn't like some teenager this is like a whole group of military people saying what the [ __ ] hey you

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should be aware of this yes I would imagine that you wouldn't write things off so quickly it seems like as a police officer you're doing it based off of evidence and they don't see any evidence and the evidence that they see can be explained as animals so it's quoted there was nothing to be seen and he remains unconvinced that the occurrence was genuine the immediate area was swept by powerful light beams from a landing Beacon at Raf bent Waters and the forness Lighthouse I know from personal experience that at night in certain weather and Cloud conditions these beams are very pronounced and certainly can cause strange visual effects the Lighthouse Keeper was like absolutely not he debunked the theory yeah I it doesn't really take I think an elementary school child could debunk that theory or conspiracy theorists like us it just doesn't make sense or just people who believe in aliens and like but also like when you hear the whole police are all about evidence give me

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the evidence that a lighthouse can do this let's stand here for days and make sure show doing their due diligence they did search the wooded area and found three strange Impressions on the ground in a triangular pattern as well as burn SL singe markings and broken branches there is one photo that has been published in the book you can't tell the people you can't it's such an old dark photo that you can't really see or tell anything but it's m mhm yeah there's like a little a little uh little something something again the police claimed animals had things ended there sure maybe it all could have been written off M but it didn't end there and what these men and many to follow encountered in that dark rendam forest in 1980 remains a mystery to this day apparently the British government never investigated as a security threat they were like we don't believe we are in danger but they did investigate it and there's endless documentation and books about this incident one of which I mentioned the Jim pennison one Payne and

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his team talked to Charles halt whose testimony is incredible not only because the event has been so ingrained in his memory but he has original documentation and audio audio documentation from that night 44 years ago interesting and that's the 18 love that he kept it yeah cuz I feel like so often these things just disappear or they end up in someone's garage somewhere which I guess that's like how Greg and Dana finds so many things where it's like you know someone squirrs it away and then 40 years later there's some Widow that's like oh what do I do with this what do I find yeah look at this thing well so Charles halt he was a deputy based Commander so he worked at Woodbridge Air Force and this cassette taped that he ended up recording 18 minutes of that evening like my question is is that all he recorded or is there some of it that's missing right although Charles Hal talks about it so openly so he I think he would have said if if there's anything missing but because he's working for the military that stuff went

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into record mhm again you can listen to the full 18 minutes I'm going to play another clip in a minute but the following is Charles ht's testimony Charles halt is now in his late 70s and he remembers the day as if it were yesterday it has left a mark on him and is still unexplained and in his own words he says that it being unexplained is a burden like it's really hard for

The Start of the Rendlesham Incident

him to still to this day not understand what it was what happened yeah team went through in a traumatic event yeah all of these men did yeah so it's 1980 Charles halt was a deputy based Commander working at the Woodbridge Airfield September 27th Charles halt walks into the police station and was greeted by a desk surgent who could not wait to tell halt what happened the night prior he's like belly laughing hardly capable of getting it out like you're not going to believe this last night Burrows penniston and cabis Knack were out in the woods chasing UF foes all last night

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haha these Sil little boys and Hal's like okay like definitely need to look into that but they continue on with their day and then it's December 28th and I'm not sure what time this is all happening and I'm not sure if it was like December 27th into the like early morning of December 28th but basically the officers are celebrating their Christmas party 42 officers were at the Woody bar they had just eaten dinner and they were getting ready for dessert when Bruce England who was the only officer not at the Christmas party because he was on duty patrolling he walks in to the bar white as a ghost also that sucks to be the one person that doesn't get to go to the Christmas I know I know Bruce England walks in pale as a ghost and he pulls halt aside he looks him dead in the eyes and he says it's back the UFO is back I feel like you're having a theme with like I thought she was gone it's back like all these lines that are just horri like they're movie lines like are movie lines so naturally halt he

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goes into like business officer mode and he's like okay let's go into the forest and check it out and he turns on his little cassette player and Records again this is like a segment from the 18-minute clip we're about 150 200 yard from the site everything else is just deely calm there's no doubt about there some type of strange flashing red light ahead I saw yellow attang in it too with weird it it appears to be may be moving a little bit this way it's it's better than it has been it's coming his way it is definitely coming this way pieces of it are shooting off there is no doubt about it this is weird his anxiety building yeah you can hear it's coming this way there's no doubt about it he's like breathing breathing getting closer this is weird there's no doubt about it and the majority of the audio and this is like very what you brought up in the beginning like it's so clear that him and all the men who are out

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there are witnessing something so strange and yet they're trying to remain calm they are military trained men who are trained to deal with like high stake situations so yeah like the audio sounds relatively calm cool and collected but you can tell they're like what the [ __ ] is happening because this is Eerie it was weird and it's terrifying yeah they came across three indentations about an inch and a half deep 10 to 12 in across equal distance apart and when they use the guer counter to look at radiation

The Eerie Encounter in the Woods

levels the thing starts going wild who the radiation readings in the spots of the indentations were nine times higher than in spots like far away from the indentations and the sides of the trees where they had been like burned or rubbed or what not and are closer to the indentations had the same high level radiation so what animal does that that good question they

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don't maybe an alien animal an animal from a different realm yeah yeah what if we're looking at spaceships wrong what if we're looking at them as crafts and sometimes it's just an animal just a beast we don't understand interesting Transformers Transformers robots in Disguise I feel like you just did like a cartoon Transformers like not the what's his name shil buff I almost had even it's not the even Steven version as you can imagine this is all so surreal and confounding and it becomes even more so when they see there between the trees to the East and in the nearby farmer field a glowing red object and keep in mind when you look at that map of like where the lighthouse is and where the renam forest is if you're looking East you're not looking towards the lith house in the farmer's field is a glowing red object similar to the first night Barnyard animals start going crazy and although it's maybe half a mile away

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Halt and the men can hear the strange sounds coming from the farm it was awfully loud and that glowing red light grew brighter and brighter so bright that it looked like the farmer's house was on fire holy crap and as quickly as it appeared it disappeared moving with deliberate and controlled motions I guess not disappeared but it like started moving away yeah H is radioing back to command and at this point everyone is aware of something strange going on in the woods the object reappears in the farmer's field it flies at a very high speed and then hovers remaining in the field where at least 15 people who are in the weapon storage area of the military base can all see it I wonder what it was like for the farmer in his home that's what I'm like where's that story yeah he if it looks like his house is on fire like don't you think he'd be like completely shrouded in light he was abducted he was probably Abed that was the woman's screams that they heard at first they're like trying really hard to rationalize it like this is this has to be a craft from like a

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different country or a human has to be controlling this like that's they want to believe that so halt says let's approach it and so they start approaching it and the craft moves toward them which you can hear in that audio clip that I displayed it's definitely moving towards us it's moving towards us and then you can hear him on the cassette saying here he comes from the south he's coming towards us now they're trying desperately to rationalize what this thing is but now they start to see sparks flying off of it so bright that it was like looking at the sun scientists have tried to say that there is a sunflare or like sunbeams it's like this is late at night yeah even if there is like some weird flare or a meteor coming in from space you would find evidence of that or there would be evidence of it you know it's so strange too like the the sparking cuz obviously it's not from like any motor or anything because is it something with like idea the Heat against the metal or like whatever this thing is made of

The Mysterious Lights and Sounds

right and then a beam shines down on the

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ground and at that point like how could you possibly think it's man-made anymore rationality is gone logic is gone confusion is here to stay and even to this day it is confounding later that night they then also saw three starlike lights in the sky two were to the north one was to the South all three of them were hovering for what felt like two to 3 hours and seemed to beam down a stream of light from time to time my God this is reminding my own alien sighting in Kia when we were in in Kia in college in like the house was called that I lived in when we saw over the ocean the two spaceships and then one was like right above our house and then it join the other two and I'm wondering if we had stayed out there and watched for longer if we would have seen any seen more beams or anything happening but you know it was 20 minutes of panic and then we ran inside and you were like do not film it no one film I was scared that they would never you call your mom or didn't or text your parents i s goodbye text my

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family Charles Halt and like all of the men are like well we see these objects let's try to get closer and every time they would try to get closer at this point in the night the objects in the sky would move further away almost as if they knew that the military men were looking at them and trying to get closer that's so silly too to like oh the men take one step and they're like scoot back one yeah it's like cat and mouse which in believing this is an alien species of some kind you don't know if they're Friend or Foe you don't know what they're there for you have no way to communicate with them they're playing it mischievously like you don't know how to engage with them so then after December 28th nothing never again they never see it again for days months and years even to today people have tried to piece this together to try to find answers halt put together a memo which is now known as the halt memo has been made publicly available again with the Freedom of Information act I'm pretty sure it was published January 13th of

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1981 so it wasn't reported or put into file until weeks after the incident which is why some people are like this is all made up or like the details are wrong and people in those couple of weeks expanded upon it and dramatized it but it's like well maybe they did a report but like it took a long time to put it all together and also everything's being filed ually like come on and yeah there's just so many steps and like protocols you have to go through and different like channels and stuff that I feel like things get really delayed when it's yeah it's like the classic you know military or corporate dilemma okay so in the halt memo it's like broken down into three occurrences I guess and in the third one it says at one point this object appeared to throw off glowing particles then broke into five separate white objects then disappeared immediately thereafter three Starlight objects were noticed in the sky two to the north one to the South

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the objects moved rapidly in sharp angular movements and displayed red green and blue lights the objects to the north appeared to be elliptical through 8 to 12 power lens they then turned into full circles the objects to the north remained in the sky for an hour or more the object to the South was visible for 2 or 3 hours and beamed a stream of light down from time to time numerous individuals including the undersigned whose trials fa witnessed the activities in paragraphs 2 and 3 I'm so curious what the different colors of lights mean I mean red and green Christmas right yeah they're just like we like these colors yeah I don't know P my spacecraft like all the cool kids have the blue or is it like UV those like UV lights that you put on your skin that's how they eat through different exposures to lights they're like plants yes oh they're

Skepticism and Theories

photosyn synthesizing syi sying it is weird cuz it's like well okay we're seeing these colors but like what is actually happening and what do those things feel like like does your skin burn when the red light hits you I know

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but it feels like you're Jello or you're swimming through water when the green one does like it what happens or do they travel with light is light their fuel M that's kind of cool that is kind of cool is that possible scientists anything is possible well I guess light is an energy source like we have light travels and light travels the Egyptians are so smart Okay so after these events media and tabloids are going crazy and the very first audio clip I played part of it was from like an original CNN news report from that time so people are like strange things are happening in the suffk forest called rendlesham reports of strange aircrafts all this stuff but then tabls are like you know the way that news reports alien UFO related encounters I think makes it sensationalized and then draws up a lot of like perhaps they take some creative liberties because they can and it

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creates confusion and then when it becomes so public people are like I don't believe this and then you get all the like tinfoil hat people being like ah this happened and this is what it is right us right exactly us so Skeptics claim that it was all a hoax and I can't remember what year it was but there's a report from the BBC and they reported that a former US security policeman named Kevin coni claimed that he created these lights as a prank but he like came forward saying that so many years later and I feel like he just wanted to say that something to say others say it was a down Soviet spy satellite especially because this cold war Russians some say they saw a bright Fireball over Southern England which is what I was saying like scientists were trying to say flare yeah there's also and I I did not analyze all 18 minutes nor do I know the timings of the lighthouse light but people people say the timings on halts tape recording

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during his sighting on December 28th indicate that the light he saw which was in the same direction as the light scen two nights earlier flashed every 5 Seconds which was the flash rate of the or forness Lighthouse as soon as you said that there was a like incremental time that's exactly what I thought right CU all the lighthouses they have different right they rotate yeah and they all have like different things so that voters know like exactly where they are amount of time Skeptics have said that the star-like objects that Halt and these other men saw were misinterpretations of bright stars distorted by atmospheric and Optical effects and they thought that one of them the one that was positioned in the South matched the position of Sirius which is the brightest star in the night sky so basically there was 3 days of like a perfect storm of weird weather and light phenomenon yeah they basically are saying that these are optical illusions but what about the and cows and what about the like literal indentations and

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objects that they saw in the forest and the burning trees exactly to this day halt believes that he witnessed an extraterrestrial event that was then covered up I also believe that that is what happened me too absolutely I'm glad we're in agreeance I need no more evidence I feel like we're always in agreeance the only thing I'm ever skeptical about is Bigfoot encrypted those ones are yeah it's well I fully believe in Bigfoot but but is bigot an alien I'd be more likely to believe in Bigfoot if Bigfoot's an alien I know that Bigfoot I know that Bigfoot exists but the question of like what is a

The Aftermath and Ongoing Mysteries

Bigfoot yeah that remains so I found an article from the BBC that was written December 26th well I think it was 2020 I forgot a number in there okay called renon Forest UFO yeah 2020 because the article is called renon Forest UFO are we any closer to the truth 40 years on and so they talk a lot

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about the incident but they also have an interview with a man who lived and worked in the renam forest area his name is Vince thurkettle and he recalls that he didn't see anything during those nights but on a late December so like 29th 30th he gets a knock on his door he sees a car pull up and two men in suits I'm like black suits yeah come and knock on his door and they wear sunglasses or have really pale skin it's a really good question I didn't get all those details he recalls like being he was like this is strange so these two men they knock on his door and they start asking him questions like asking him and they keep repeating the question like they keep asking did you see anything strange in the night did you leave your house in the last couple of nights it's like well this is kind of strange like this is what I'm experiencing that is strange you two weird men coming and asking me things right Vince though does not believe in aliens like he is so very much like this is just something strange that happened and he actually stands by the lighthouse theory he doesn't buy

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into the alien Theory but he does think the timeline of everything is really really weird because basically they knock on the door and he thinks it's reporters mhm but the news didn't catch word of this incident until like early January so he's like okay who were these two men people keep telling him like you saw Men In Black right and he's like no I don't like I don't think so like sure maybe that's weird and he definitely thinks there's like some type of cover up like the one thing he stands by is that the timeline is weird and I think so the way he kind of says it in the article he says like the way that they concluded the conversation was kind of weird so like they reached a point in the conversation and this questioning where they realize Vince doesn't know anything and the two men kind of just look at each other and I added the word strangely but I imagine they looked at each other strangely and they go oh well fair enough probably nothing in it and they left and I'm like in in him is it

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Vince or were they British one of them one of them I know had a British accent okay because I feel like that's that's like C well I don't want to do like a horrible British accent right now but yeah but also like who are these guys I'm like what did they why why why were they there why did they need to know and if they were part of the US military who were on the Air Force Base wouldn't they have put that in their documentation that they looked around and they spoke to people the woods and didn't get well and you'd also identify yourself right they did not they were just two random men yeah in suits we start doing that yes yes we might actually get some alien stories out of it I mean listen have you seen anything weird and people are like actually yes what a wild I mean I fully believe all of these people experien something paranormal it is interesting cuz it's this one and then like the what was the one in Zimbabwe the aerial School phenomenon strange when it just lasts like it's such a concentrated amount of activity

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that lasts just a very short period of time where it's like a day or two it's so weird it's like well what's the point were they just browsing did they come for a specific thing and they completed their mission and we're just assuming that they're poking around it reminds me of the other one you talked about too where like the two men were in the boat oh yes uh oh God I can't remember what it is starts with a P yeah but the two the two men in the boat two men in the boat regardless like I feel like a lot of alien encounters it's like a sporadic over like one short amount of time like there's a lot of different sightings and then gone yeah yeah so what are they looking for in that area like what what mission were they sent on yeah I don't know but that's the renle Sham Forest incident there are so many resources and books and thousand page novels about it that you can read about and people have spent their lives theorizing trying to piece together what it possibly was I will say despite no definitive answer I

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definitively know it's aliens it's aliens yeah you don't have to convince me I know all of you out there it's aliens 100% believe that yeah dang I feel like this is going to be one of those things where like I pretend that I

Personal Alien Encounters and Reflections

never said this and then you're going to like roll the tape and pull the clip again like I do feel like I want to experience a lot of alien phenomenon like this same like that would actually be cool like if I'm not being abducted do think it would be cool to kind of like see a SP spacecraft and kind of like run through the woods to try to see what we see 100% you know let's run through the woods yeah it feels like should we be naked I feel oh I was going to pitch red sweatshirts and a bike but we could also be naked ET okay okay well how about I'm red sweatshirt in a bike you're naked in the basket I'm ET you're ET we'll put a a cloak over you I was going to say like it's such a weird pitch for me to be like the one who wants to be naked don't actually want to be naked I just like the the imagery of

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two women naked running through the woods witches witches looking for aliens yeah it's all the same universe it is okay knowing absolutely nothing about what you were going to talk about I feel like I picked actually maybe the perfect most perfect emale really because it's called I smell aliens and see cows and your story had aliens and cows well it have farm animals we don't necessarily know cows they were you're right there were cow cows be you have a knack for those types of things you do know when cows are I know when there are cows yeah you need a cow I know like I'm not on Tik Tok often but I for some reason the videos where like people have cows that like come into their house and like bathe them yes is on my feed that's what I want you should have that there's a farm in this area called Appleton Farms and they do emotional support cow therapy and you can sign up as you could do the adults you could do the family or you you could

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do the kids oh I know well I'm doing it you need a lot of therapy but cow therapy I think could be top of your list dude I need a lot of therapy now that I'm a mom but cow therapy is going to be I'm going to do it I'm we're going to do the family therapy so Noah's also going to get to hug some cows soon there's two cows on the property that you can hug um and let them make you feel better for your baby shower my gift was all cow themed that's true yeah and I cannot wait until Noah fits in that cow outfit you got it I gave Noah his first cow yeah his well he is the cow you gave him like a onesie zip up like Halloween cow costume I also gave him a cow stuffed animal he's Cow happy he's a cow Cowboy a oh he's a cowboy cowboy wait that's actually so perfect cuz I do the little thing with him he loves it where like I put him on my knee and I go this is the way the cowg girls ride cowg girls ride cowg girls ride this is the way the cow girls ride so early in the morning so and they go this is the way to cowo D cowo DED cowo

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D and he's like loves it so cute we're gonna get that boy on a on a cow soon hello my spooky ghostesses Sven and Leia my name is Nadine you can use my name and I've been now listening to you for a few years and I've been hooked ever since I recently in the last year got my mom into listening to you and she loves it too and every time we're together we play it in my car fun I've had a few encounters with the Paranormal and it's happened to me for as long as I can remember I have had predictive dreams I've had an old war ghost who hated Boys near me and some haunted dreams where I can only see them but not anyone else H but today I do want to tell you about my first Alien Encounter that I had with my mom we were in a small town in New Mexico and we were heading to El Paso to pick up my uncle and my aunt who came from Ecuador to visit as my husband and I were buying their home from them in our town it was about 8:00 at night it was dark out and we were driving my mom and I were chatting and we were listening to the Pod and my mom goes hey

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look up at the sky there are four lights blinking now mind you this sky is open and we do have drones that fly out there but there are more than four and also smaller in size and these are big lights that are going horizontal blinking what episode were you listening I need to know four 3 2 1 and then we blink again 4 3 2 1 and then would change to 3 2 1 so I pulled out my phone to try I just got the shiveries so do you get touched or something no I just got so like I pull up my phone and I tried to take a picture but my camera is not pulling up fast enough and then two one and then again to one and then gone nothing just completely vanished and I couldn't take the picture and plus I was driving I'm sure that I would have sucked at it anyway but my mom and I were in shock and we were silent and we just started cackling like mad women and I was like I I guess they thought Sabrina was here so they came looking I

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wish is that why I haven't been abducted because my voice is playing in so many places they don't know where I actually am they can't pinpoint you you're impossible cuz I'm also actually not talking most of the time unless we're on the podcast cuz I'm pretty quiet gal you're everything everywhere all at once basically my God you're all over they can't find stop playing the podcast everyone just SK over all of Sabrina's Parts make it one-sided where it makes absolutely no sense that's when you're going to be like oh yeah this does have one brain cell this this episode feels worse strange yes my mom starts laughing harder and we're having a blast but we're also in a bit of shock maybe we're delusional together anyhow my mom is my best friend so I love when we have moments like this together so cute in the midst of laughing I roll down the window and I smell fresh cow [ __ ] and I say laughing again like a psychopath I think they dropped a cow when I pulled out my phone I look at my mom and I gasp I need to send this in I need to tell the girls I need to not forget well it's 2 weeks

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later I forgot until right now so here I am I called my husband after seeing this happen and I was so excited to tell him that I saw aliens and he was like what and I told him again what happened and he just started laughing and was like you need to email the girls oh yeah he listens too as well as my three creepy kids pyramid scheme no so this was my strange funny crazy email but I finally did have my first UFO sighting and I thought you guys would get a kick out of my mom and I's Adventure love stay spooky see you on the other side and hopefully one day on this side naen I love it so much it's a light-hearted like yeah see some weird lights smells like cow [ __ ] aliens it's kind of like you know I love emology and I love knowing the origins of like weird like you know blow smoke up your ass is such a good one cuz it literally used to be like a medical thing that they would do they thought it would help I think originally they thought it would help with drownings weird they thought like if they blue smoke the water would like I don't know anyway throw the baby out

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with the bath water exactly I love the emology I really want the aliens dro the cow like some like something like that to be a term we use like instead of like drop the ball you drop the cow let's make something up right now what does that mean to us the alien dropped the cow it means they got caught oh interesting the alien okay like they got caught so they had to drop the cow all right that's now in our language they dropped the cow so if you catch me I'll be like I dropped the cow I dropped the cow or I caught you and you dropped the cow yeah the alien dropped the cow the alen if you text me that I'm going to know immediately you got caught I did red-handed not red-handed you dropped the cow I dropped the cow yeah it's like red-handed yeah let's create new words in terms of phrases and let's all agree that this is aliens and if aliens visit you please tell them where to find Sabrina I had example number 3,252 was that a number yeah of why all numbers believe I'm a ghost why what

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happened all weekend every automatic thing wouldn't work around me maybe there's some weird well what if okay so when you got your aura photo you were becoming you were tapping into these psychic abilities so I do wonder if there's like just some weird energy happening like I literally was in a bathroom going like this a million times under the sink and then there were three sinks I did it to every single one nothing another woman comes out of the stall immediately goes and works weird then later a door that was automatic I'm laughing now like what if it wasn't automatic but like no like it was like one of those motion ones you go through life and you're so used to everything being automatic you're like the toilet won't flush the door won't open just like everything is actually manual around not that dumb you guys give me some credit but I know the difference between a faucet with a handle and one with those are a little more obvious yeah um and it was not one of the petal ones for those of you wondering if it was like you have to press it down fancy no is that fancy or is that I don't know I don't know it is more hygienic I feel like I called it fancy but like that's

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what they use outside a b at concert the water fancy for a porta potty yes anyway anyk you guys for joining us yeah and if you have ghost stories or alien stories or anything that you just want to share with us please email us at 2girls one go podcast at gmail.com and if you would like to be inducted into an Illuminati is like adjacent cult Illuminati adjacent yeah cuz we can't get sued by the Illuminati obviously we can't we're not stealing their branding but you can join us on patreon and get sucked and you got to join to figure out what that means for you and the offerings we provide okay the offerings that you must provide us in order for the offerings we give you back it's basically a sacrifice that you give to us your ghostesses not your God is and we give you something in return it's an exchange of sorts yeah magic you

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can it's magic not consumerism It's Magic it's support it's support it is you can also support us by well is it support I don't know just if you want to find our social media and then rate and review us it's there rate and reviewing that's support tell other people about it be like nine get your whole family to listen your mom too and all the aliens and the cows and your field shout out to Jamie who edits our podcast thank you Jamie and we will why have I been doing that lately I don't know I think because you have to do so much for the podcast while I dissolve into a puddle and like have a life straw trying to not drown that now you're like oh I have to do everything well I also think the way that you CU you had just finished saying one thing and then I was like oh well we've done all of the things so the next thing to do is next breath is the yep okay but I'll let you and we will see see you on the other side