GHOST DOGS, KANGAROO CRYPTIDS & A POULTRYGEIST | Paranormal Animals (Episode 333)

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Vicious kangarool-like animal terrorizes Marian settlement. This ghost chicken was like, "Excuse me, no PDA in my pond. Ghost dogs, a paranormal bond at the Tower of London, a ghost chicken, and we're going to round it out with some ghost kangaroos." So, this is the paranormal pets episode. Yeah,

very spooky.

Hi. Hello. And happy birthday to you, Karin. Thanks. I forgot it was my birthday episode until right now cuz we're recording it a few weeks before. But thank you.

Yeah.

Yeah. I feel so Am I turning 32?

I know. I keep forgetting. Are we 32 or

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33?

We're turning 32.

I feel so 32.

It's so 32 of you to forget how old you are.

I It's all blur now.

I was still IDed the other day. So that felt great.

Oh my god.

Yeah.

Tell me about it. Where?

At Ledger in Salem.

No way.

But they ID everyone. So

Oh, okay. I actually did get IDed and I was like, "What the fuck?" I went to go get my dad a father's day gift. So I went in and I was like, "Do you guys have Bllandens?" Which if you're underage, you don't know what Bllandens is.

Yeah. Bllandens is a nice whiskey. Yeah. Or bourbon, sorry.

Right. So I was like, "Do you have Bllandens?" And then the like women were whispering. And then when I showed my ID, the one woman was like, "I told her that you were of age, but she was like, you need to make sure to ID this girl." And I was like, "That is insane." Like I'm like withered coming in like, "Do you have BL?" like this 20-year-old drinking

Bllandons.

Yeah. Anyway, I felt I felt nice that one woman who was in her 70s thought

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that maybe I was underageed.

Well, you look beautiful. You're radiant. You're glowing. You look like you're in a cult right now with your white.

I know.

I got rid of almost all my clothes, so I like really truly don't have much to record in.

I'm very impressed with you. I will like to say I've come to the conclusion that a capsule wardrobe is just not for me. And you made a suggestion. And you're like, "What if we had more of like a uniform for our recordings?" And I was like, "Kar, but then I can't write off spending so much money on clothes."

Like do that to me.

A lot of clothes for for these episodes.

And I b I get rid of my clothes.

Yeah. So,

but maybe I need to start coming up with a wardrobe of my own to wear here.

You're going to

You'll walk into the office next time and there'll be like a rack of just like I walk in and get dressed, too. It's like Alex Cooper has her like all her sweat sets,

the unwell ones. See,

that's what I need because I got overwhelmed by my closet and I purged just about everything, but to the point where now I don't have anything to wear.

You could show up nude.

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Oops. I could, but we'd probably get a lot of followers. Well, we'd get kicked off most platforms, but only fans would take us in.

Yeah.

Yeah. Um, hi.

Hello.

By the way, this is Two Girls, One Ghost.

Two Girls, One Ghost. And we are your ghostesses. That is Karen, the birthday girl. The glowing beautiful birthday girl.

Feeling comfortable.

Um, and I'm Sabrina. I wish we had like a extra light to radiate you. Oh,

here we go. Extra light for all of us.

Okay. I had a brilliant epiphany and I also thought it was very funny. So, I'm going to share it with you here today and with all of you. Okay,

so I love the summer and I love sitting out in the sun and tanning and getting bronzed and sun-kissed, but I was like, we're basically roasting ourselves. Like, we're literally damaging our skin.

We're baking.

And so I was thinking about how people tan differently, right? But I'll use Pay as an example. He is a very pale white

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boy.

And I was like, "Oh, like you don't tan, you just burn." I'm like, "You're a shrimp." Because shrimp start out like grayish white and then when you cook them they turn pink and then I was like I'm a a steak a nice fillet where you like roast them.

We're all pieces of meat that we just burn.

I think I'm a s'more. I turn a bit orange.

Oh, do s'mores turn orange?

Yeah, if you get them golden.

Oh, I guess you're right. Yeah,

you burn yours.

I love burning a s'more.

Oh my gosh. Sorry. This is like

what?

Such a stupid pivot. Um, but you talking about that just reminded me. I just learned about the boiled frog theory. Have you heard this?

No. What's this?

It's like not something frogs would actually do, but it's basically saying like if you stick a frog in a pot of boiling water, they'll notice and jump right out. But if you stick a frog in normal temperature water and slowly slowly increase the heat, they'll never know that they're in danger until it's too late. Which is not actually true of frogs, but it's basically like a life

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lesson of

Oh, I was like, who's testing this out? right?

Who's torturing the four frogs?

I hope no one's actually torturing the frogs. But basically, it was like a lesson in life that essentially like sometimes little things happen so frequently and if it doesn't feel like one big thing to shock you and be like, "Oh, I need to recognize this isn't good for me," then sometimes you don't notice until you're boiling and it's really bad.

I like that theory, the slowburn, sometimes you don't notice slowburn what's happening. That's a great

intro topic & Sabrina's foster kittens

transition because while we're not talking about boiled frogs today, we are talking about pets because Karen, you like heartwarming stories and when I think of you, I think of pets. I think of um Whoa, why did I just forget his name?

Wrinkles.

Wrinkles. I almost said like whiskey. And I was like, why? That's

because he's got nice whiskers.

Maybe. And we were just talking about bourbon. And then I think about wrinkles. And then I think about cryptids. So, I put together an episode

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that kind of puts everything that I just stated together. And I also right now have six foster cats. I have a mama and her five kittens. I was writing this episode while like sitting with them. They're so small that they're still nursing. Like, they don't eat any other food yet.

Um, but that also means that they don't know how to use the litter box. And um, so it's a bit messy.

Oh my god. But how sweet. How long are you going to have them?

Just until Saturday cuz then I go to LA. They just needed someone quickly and I was like, I can do it temporarily. But look at how cute they are. So sweet. And look at all six of them nursing or all five of them nursing on mama. How's Leia doing? Oh, you know, we're keeping them separate. Oh, but they're polyactyl. So, while that means they're not dinosaurs, cuz I always get that confused. They have extra toes. They have opposable thumbs.

Is that just like a genetic thing or is that specific to a breed?

So, mama has like seven toes.

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Whoa.

But, and I might be misinformed here, but what I remember being told many many years ago is that it's common amongst like incest and inbreeding with cats, which is common like if cats are in the same area,

they crossbreed with family members. So, this is the Paranormal Pets episode, and you're lucky that this fell on your birthday because it's episode 333.

Oh, so it could have been so spooky.

I was about to double down. 333* 2 666.

Yeah.

And be spooky as [ __ ] but we're going to do heartwarming.

Okay. I'm actually shocked that you did because I feel like you could have easily pivoted and been like, "Oh, we'll just do the encounters." All heartwarming.

No, I did this for you.

Thank you. You're welcome. I think we already recorded your birthday encounters. I don't even know what we did.

I don't know either.

Couldn't tell you.

We're just chugging along this year.

So, we're talking about ghost pets, pets

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with paranormal abilities, and so much more. And I feel like we talk about so many ghosts on this podcast, human ghosts, but we don't often talk about spectral animals. And there are a lot of them. Some of them are scary, some of them are tragic. We try to stay away from those. And instead of talking about hell hounds and not deer and scary creatures in the woods, we are going to talk about a couple of ghost dogs, a paranormal bond at the Tower of London, a ghost chicken, and we're going to round it out with some ghost kangaroos.

Interesting. I've never heard of a ghost kangaroo.

Well, you're about to hear.

Why can't there be?

They're running rampant, hopping rampant all over,

boxing the crap out of others.

Yeah, they're kind of been punched by a ghost. Maybe it was a kangaroo. Maybe it was a kangaroo.

ghost dogs

Okay, so there are a lot of ghost dog stories and we covered a few in the past and I just wanted to highlight those episodes in case people want more of them. In episode 13, we talked about I think a couple different ones. It was a whole pets episode.

I remember that.

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So we did the Hound of Gan, which is an avenging ghost dog in South Carolina. We talked about the Belmont Hillsboro protector, Preston the Boxer, who is this like amazing boxer who saved a child one night on Halloween and continues to protect children and like make sure they get crossed the street safely. And then we also talked about Nightlife, who is a ghost dog that shows up at parties, literally a party animal, which I did not remember talking about that one, but I love it.

Okay. Okay. And then episode 27, we talked about Grreyfire's Kirkyard, the cemetery in Edinburgh, where there's Bobby, the ghost dog that roams the cemetery. And then episode 82, we covered, and this one was sad, but the Overton Bridge.

Oh, yes. Where sadly and tragically, a lot of dogs have, for some mysterious reason, continued to jump off the bridge.

Yeah. And I will say it does in a way it feels like we've covered a lot of stories for only having 333 researched episodes but also not enough because

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that's not that's like just a handful. I I mean I think we have some scattered throughout or like mentions. I think in in the White House episode I think you talked about the demon cat like the ghost cat that's supposed to

haunt there. And then in the Tower of London episodes, I did talk about the spectral bear and animals that are sometimes seen.

And there's a lot of other just like animal hauntings trickled throughout where like there'll be like a little Chihuahua that haunts some place or whatever, like the back of a bar.

Yeah. So, we're going to begin I thought I wrote we're going to begin this amazing episode, but I wrote we're going to begin with an amazing story, but this is also an amazing episode. Believe in yourself. This is a story about ghost dogs, reincarnation, and Scotland. And it's also going to set up what I'm researching for my next episode. So, episode 335. Because as I was doing this, I was like,

wait, this story is so juicy and there's so much more to it. So, I'm just telling you the I'm giving you a teaser for next

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week, but I'm giving you the specifics about the dog.

Ballechin House: reincarnation as a dog?

Okay, this is called the Bolicanin House, and it's considered the most haunted house in Scotland. But the hauntings begin with a man who believed he would be reincarnated as a dog. He believed

second. Sorry.

What?

If this is my birthday episode, then Sven should be celebrating.

Oh my gosh. Sorry. There's no reason for Sven to not celebrate me. There we go. Woohoo. Sven is so festive. We gave him lock jaw though. Now that Sven is ready, we can continue.

Sorry. Yes. Okay. Okay, so the hauntings began with a man who believed that he would be reincarnated as a dog so deeply that it may have come true. So our story is about Major Robert Stewart who after serving in the Indian army and becoming fascinated with Hinduism, he returned to Scotland convinced he would one day inhabit the shape of a black spananiel. So much so that he told everyone.

Everyone.

He was manifesting it.

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Yeah.

And writing it into

existence.

Existence.

Literally. And so he lived in the Bicanin house, which we'll talk about the history of that more in two weeks time. But in order to make this transition easier, he lived around upwards of 14 dogs. And his idea was that like one of these dogs would basically serve as his vessel when he departed this earthly plane.

Oh, so he's just kicking the dog's soul out to take it over. He's possessing a dog. I he listen it didn't work out that way because upon his death his nephew inherited the house and his nephew's name was Did I even write it? No, because I don't like him. Um, as the stories should be told, if you don't like someone, write them out.

Don't share their name. But this nephew, and I don't know all of his reasonings behind this, but he was not keen on the idea of his uncle returning. Maybe he was like, "This is my house now. I don't

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want uncle coming back.

So he very sadly ordered all of his staff to like to kill any dog that stepped foot on the property. This is my birthday episode.

That's the saddest part of this whole episode. Oh, there is death of a chicken later. But oh my god. But that didn't stop Major Robert Stewart because he was like, "You think you beat me? No, no, no, no. I'm going to come back as a spectral dog. So do what you may, you can't get rid of me." So one day his nephew's wife is like sitting in the study

doing something when all of a sudden this like wet dog smell emanates throughout the whole house

and she's like, "What is this?" And then she like gets up to go investigate and she feels something nudge against her leg almost like a dog kind of just like rubbing up against her.

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She's very confused. As time is passing by, more and more people start to report the smell, the feeling of a dog walking past them. People seeing a large black spananiel crossing rooms. One witness watched his own dog greet the phantom dog very happily and like playfully. Visitors spoke of persistent thuds like a wagging tail striking a door when no animal was present. A guest in the home had brought their own dog and they were sleeping at night and woke up to their dog like jumping around and playing and they're like, "Oh, does our dog have the zooies?" I think this is back in the 18 1900s, so they probably were saying the zooies. Um, but then they noticed that their dog is not playing by themselves. They're playing with what looks to be another dog, but there's something wrong. It is a bodyless dog with just two detached black paws and as they notice these black paws like jump up like excitedly and the paws land on the bedside table next to them. So I imagine

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like the little dog like hello and then it disappears. I'm so curious too because if so many dogs lost their lives on this property I'm curious if this is him in some way coming through as a dog or if this was one of the dogs.

Yeah, I don't know. And I also don't know how many animals actually did get killed on the property. I'm hoping none, but I think that's wishful thinking. And

either way, that's the ghost dog of Balican House. And

sounds like a very happy dog.

There's so much more to these hauntings, including like an entire society that formed in this house to do paranormal investigations. Yeah. Which we will talk about in two weeks. H I wish we could just trade episode schedules so that we could just learn about it next week, too.

No,

I know. I'll have to finish my research.

Postbridge Bloodhound

Okay, now our next paranormal pup is a little bit unusual. It is the postbridge

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blood hound, who is more of a paranormal booze hound. Because this kid is because this kid this kiddo

this dog is not protecting kids on Halloween or avenging anything and he isn't some guy reincarnated. Actually though, saying that out loud, I'm like, it actually would make sense if it is someone reincarnated or a spirit of a human showing up as a dog because let's travel through time and space real quick to the village of Postbridge in Devon, England, where in 1861 a tin miner named James Webb buys some land. He buys like 2 acres of land and he was going to build his home there and then instead he's like, "You know what? You know what? Our town is missing a pub." So he asks permission from whoever you ask permission from. Hey, can I build an inn/pub? Approval granted, stamped, sign, seal, delivered. Go on, go forth, sir. So 1863, he opens his pub, the new inn. And for years it was the local

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watering hole.

It was called the new inn.

Yeah,

I like that.

The new inn.

It's just new in town. It's the new inn.

Have you been over to the new inn?

Yeah, that literally.

What's it called? The new in. the new inn.

It was like a little lazy, but

I like it though.

Okay, so for years it's a successful pub and inn, but then he passes away. I think this is like 1889 now. And so James passes away and his son inherits it. His son's name is John Webb. But around this time, it's 1889, so it's like leading into the prohibition era. There's like a political, societal, religious movement called the temperance movement that a big part of it was that alcohol is the demon's drink. So, it's a movement to push away from drinking. And John, and there's like a whole story about how like John's wife was very pious and was like, "John, stop drinking." And he stopped drinking. But I'm like, why blame the wife? Like the whole world is not drinking. So

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anyway, John is basically urged to cut back on his unholy activities of drinking and he decides to take it one step further and if he's not going to drink, if his wife's not going to drink, if his friends are not going to drink, his clients and customers aren't going to drink either.

Oh wow.

So he rebrates the inn entirely. I mean this is also like the government we're leading into prohibition. So, it's about to become

the religious part of it is weird because what what was the religion if it had anything to do with Christianity? Did Jesus not turn water into wine?

Okay, Moira.

I know that's actually a good question. During the prohibition movement, were churches allowed to serve the blood of Christ?

Right. Those priests were getting [ __ ] up between Jesuit priests.

Oh, yeah.

Those guys be boozing.

He rebrands the whole inn. He changes the name to the Web Temperance Hotel. Again, a little bit lazy, but on the nose. Here's the thing. They

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weren't competing with a ton of other businesses, right? Like, they didn't have to file for

And I guess it's no longer new,

right? Yeah.

Yeah.

It's old,

middle-aged, middle-aged in. So John Webb not only rebrands the whole inn and gets rid of all the alcohol, he makes a show of it, like a very dramatic display of no longer serving alcohol at the inn.

He takes all of his barrels, all of his casks, all of his gin, his whiskey, his beer, and dumps them into the roadside ditch. There's so much alcohol that it turns into a stream that flows into the nearby river. I feel like if I were someone who was trying to figure out who was actually secretly serving alcohol, that over display of following rules would make me think that he was just like an underground like he he was the like ring master.

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It wasn't illegal yet. So,

okay.

So, he

Oh, so he was just really doing the most.

So, he makes this dramatic display. And you might be asking, Sabrina, like where's the ghost dog in this? Well, the ghost dog enters that very evening. So, as night falls and the stream of brown and red weird what's it called? Um, jungle juice that is flooding

Yeah.

the the stream.

Oh, it's like playing the game Moose.

What's that?

It's where you have you have an egg carton. It was a New England game, but I made people play it in LA sometimes.

I'm upset you never.

There's a No, be happy.

There's a bowl.

Mhm.

Just a large bowl. Everyone who plays pours a little bit of their drink in. So, it's a

concoction of yiness. There's an egg carton that you prop up and then you bounce a penny. If it goes on the right side, I think that means you like take a sip, however many sips of yours. So, if it goes up like three, you take three sips of your drinks. If it's on the left, you give out however many.

If it goes into the bowl, everyone has to put their moose antlers up.

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And whoever's last

Whoever's last has to drink the bowl.

The whole bowl.

Yeah. It's really dangerous game. Don't play it.

So, do you want to celebrate your birthday later?

No. Anyway,

I don't even drink hard liquor anymore.

Anyway, so that night as night falls, locals see a dog walk up to the river and fully lap up the booze. And then to add to it, this dog then vanishes into thin air.

Oh my gosh. And ever since that night, people have seen the same spectral dog that looks like a blood hound, continue to come at 3:00 a.m.

Looks like a blood hound.

Every night, even well after the alcohol dried up to the stream, lapping up the now invisible alcohol. I'm curious, did people talk about the dog just as a dog, or were people saying this was like a hellhound? Because it makes sense if they're like, "Oh, the alcohol is of the devil and now there's like this

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hellhound demonish beastly ghost dog creature that's coming to drink the devil's juice at 3:00 a.m."

That would make sense. But from the articles and things that I was reading, it seemed very like, "What's up with this ghost dog who's drinking the like alcohol streaming it up?"

And even to this day, people report seeing the ghost dog doing this.

Oh. And that's why I'm like, okay, well, maybe it does make sense it's a reincarnation or like a spectral form of a human being showing up as a dog.

Like the original owner, James Webb, like he'd be like, "Not all my precious money gone to waste. Well, someone has to drink it, you know?"

Yeah.

So now the inn is renamed the East Dart Inn, and people swear to hear a dog walking around click clacking with its little nails

in and around the property. So, now

a bond between kings and animals

we're going to talk about the very deep bond between humans and animals and how

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sometimes that leads to them passing away at the same time.

And I found two stories that are quite strange but also interesting.

Okay. So this first story is from the Tower of London which I had not heard this story when I was doing my research which we covered the Tower of London in episodes 209 and 210. In that episode we did talk about the royal menagery and the various animals from all over the world that the kings kept on the property.

But this story is of King George II. It's the 18th century. And during this time I believe the lions that were a part of the menagerie they named like the dominant male after the king. that gave us his namesake.

Mhm.

So, the male lion is also George. And George II apparently built quite the bond with his lion counterpart. So much so that when George II fell ill, so too did the lion George. And within days, George the Lion passed away and then so

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too did King George.

That's weird.

Isn't that weird?

Yeah.

But I feel like the lion passed away first so that he could be waiting for King George. his protector to bring him

on the rainbow bridge

or was this like a case of extreme heartbreak and stress, you know,

right?

It depends because I I can see where someone in that position would feel such immense stress and feel so isolated whether they display that to the public or not. Like to feel so alone because everybody who interacts with you wants something from you, but the only thing that doesn't aside from maybe just like food.

Yeah. is an animal,

right? They're more pure.

Yeah.

I also don't really know how often King George II was like visiting his lion and

you know his whole menagerie. I feel like I mean there's a lot of We're not going to do it, but we could have a whole conversation about how like it's unethical to keep animals like this, you

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know. So,

do you remember at LMU when they brought a lion?

Oh my god, it was the saddest thing in the world. Yeah, that was the last time they did that because we every all the students were like, "What the fuck?"

Oh my. It was awful cuz our mascot is the lions.

LMU Lions

and they thought it was a good idea to bring a lion

which was like in a cage

to the campus

in the hot sun.

Yeah.

In the middle of Yeah. Everyone was pissed. So

they did not do that again. That's for sure.

Okay. So a similar story is of an entire pond of fish in Normandy that felt King Henry II's death quite literally and dramatically. So King Henry II was in his castle at Exme which is 5 miles from this pond in Normandy and just hours before the king's death out of nowhere these fish begin to attack one another like killing one another until not a single one was left alive. Oh, and as the last fish died, legend says so too

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did King Henry II.

That is really creepy.

And I don't think I was like visiting fish on his time off,

right? Well, it almost makes How did he die?

That's a good question. I don't know.

It made me wonder if there were like some sort of political whatever wars or something and this was kind of like a display of the forces that would eventually end him. Oh,

like almost like an omen or like a warning or just like a a replication of what was happening but in fish form and accelerated.

Yeah, I really don't know.

That is weird. And like there was only one mention of this story. Like I couldn't find it anywhere else because King Henry I died by eating some type of fish

even though he was like told not to. So that dominates the internet when you look it up.

ghost chicken of Pond Square

Okay. Well, now we're going to pivot to Ghost Chicken. This is the first chicken put on ice.

Wow.

Yeah.

Because my mind first went that it's

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like on ice. Like when you go to like a fish market and then they have the fish and then my second thought was like it's wearing figure skates and it's on the pond.

Yeah. Disney on ice.

Disney on ice. But it's the chicken performing. I

Well, the chicken is kind of performing a little bit and a little bit. There's a lot of drama with this chicken, but it's also sad. There's death of a chicken here. But our story begins with Sir Francis Bacon who we have all heard of but he was an English statesman, a philosopher and an early scientist born in 1561. Sometime in 1626, Sir Francis Bacon became intrigued by and determined to experiment with meat preservation.

So it's a cold January night and Sir Francis Bacon was traveling with the king's physician to Highgate. He was, you know, shivering in his itchy, scratchy clothing, trying to stay warm in his layers when all of a sudden the cold helped an idea come to mind. What if we could use the snow to preserve

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meat?

Oh.

And he says this out loud and the and the physician goes, "My kind sir, Sir Francis Bacon, that is a brilliant idea." And so he's so elated that he encourages Francis Bacon to experiment post haste and he's like reroute the carriage and they instead of going to the castle they reroute to in town there's this like woman who has chickens

so they buy a chicken from her they have her pluck the feathers gut it yes they killed the chicken

and this is not like an easy quick thing. So, you know, she's doing her work and in the story it says that Sir Francis Bacon, as she's doing this, goes outside to grab the snow. But I'm like,

the time here isn't really working out. But Sir Francis Bacon apparently spent a lot of time outside while she was prepping the chicken. So, I like to imagine he built a snowman or two, then gathered the snow. By the time that the woman was done plucking the chicken, he comes inside and he stuffs the chicken

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with the snow.

Oh, he puts it inside of the chicken.

Inside of the chicken.

Oh, weird. cuz this is I mean it's early days that no one's ever done this before. He didn't know what else to do. It's not a bad idea.

Wait, when was this? 1626. Where was this? Highgate, UK, England.

It's just weird because like trading routes existed. And I'm just thinking about all the Nordic northern hemisphere indigenous groups that like were already doing that with moose, with bear, with elk, caribou, whales. Like that was already kind of like a practice to use ice.

Yeah. I don't know.

I don't know either. Do some research. But that's interesting.

This is the first time like it's happening where Sir Francis Bacon is.

There was I think there was a movement in this time where people were trying to do meat preservation. So like maybe there is some overlap with others. But he is stuffing this chicken with ice.

Mhm.

He's determined to test this theory. But in his post haste and in his building of a snowman and spending a lot of time outside, Sir Francis Bacon caught a chill, one that turned deadly. And

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within 2 days time, Sir Francis Bacon died from pneumonia. And ever since his death, people have reported seeing a spectral white bird without feathers resembling a plucked chicken running about in circles in Pond Square

before then disappearing into the ether. A poultry gist,

if you will.

That's good.

I did not come up with that, but it was very applicable.

Oh, that's what I did to land it. Yeah. Nice.

Thanks. And there are so many encounters with this poultry guyist. In 1943, aircraftman Terrace Long was crossing Pond Square late at night when he was startled by the sounds of a horse and carriage. So, he like looks around, but he sees no horse and carriage.

And then just as that sound disappears, the sound of a chicken like clucking comes in its place. And he sees this white plucked chicken running and clucking around and then he disappears. My mind is now going just if he hadn't

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passed away, would he still have died by having bad chicken?

But he didn't eat it.

But how would he have tested if it was

Oh, that's true. Like if he didn't die from the cold, would he?

Would he have still died or from the chicken?

Had he not spent so much time trying to preserve meat? It's so interesting how like he was trying to use the snow to preserve meat, but the ice and the cold killed him.

Yeah.

It's ironic. He was working with ICE to find a way to sustain life

life and it killed him.

Yeah.

There's also a lot of debate over Sir Francis Bacon's like death and all of this stuff that I didn't get into, but

if people are historians, don't at me. Okay. So then in the 1960s, a stranded man saw the same plucked chicken running in circles again before disappearing. So, it's very similar encounters where it's like the chicken running in circles, which is very sad

and makes me think it's a residual haunting. But then there's this one encounter which I enjoy and I think it's very funny. This ghost chicken decided I

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don't like romance because one day there's this couple canoodling in the pond square. It's 1970 and they are entangled in a passionate kiss on a park bench.

Oh, romance. when all of a sudden this ghost chicken starts running in circles around the park bench, scaring the living daylights out of this couple that they like sprint out of there as fast as possible.

Oh no, I thought it was going to be like a Disney scene where like it runs circles and then like sparks start to fly up and then they're levitated in their kiss and they're just like floating in their embrace.

This ghost chicken was like, "Excuse me, no PDA in my pond."

Yuck. It's like a chaperon at a school dance. This couple like looks back to see where this chicken came from and where it went and it's gone.

And that's so weird. Like I don't think the UK just has rogue chickens running around. Right.

Right. And it's like specifically in this pond square where the story of Sir

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Francis Bacon like getting a chicken and trying to preserve meat

happened.

Would you ever have chickens?

In theory, yes. I think in practice, no. be a lot of work, a lot of upkeep.

It's a Yeah, because they're dirty in their cages.

And my neighbors have some. So, I wake up to the

They're very chatty.

Yeah.

In our you can have chickens. You just have to apply for permits.

There's a lot of them actually in our blood. When I go on my walks, I see a lot of their little hens. Pens. What are they called? Crates. Cages.

What are they called?

Pens.

Hen pens.

Hen pen. That sounds

No, I feel like it's there. There's has to be another word for it. A chicken walk.

That's not what I was thinking of.

Yeah, I think it's called a chicken walk.

Well, that's wrong.

Chicken ce.

Coupe.

And then the walk is when you have like an enclosed whatever for them to walk around in outside of their chicken coop.

The coupe.

The coop.

The coop.

That's what we were looking for.

the ghost kangaroo

Okay. So, I told you I was gonna include

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a crypted in this.

Yes. So, our final story is about the ghost kangaroo, which is a very strange phenomena, mystery, potential crypted

that has been lurking in the United States.

Yeah.

In the US.

In the US, which is why it's like this is not a kangaroo like this because it's the US. We don't have kangaroos hopping around.

No. Who started this lore? Was it the Australians? No, it was the uh Wisconsinonians.

Good old Wisconsin had some bad cheese and suddenly they were hallucinating some ghost kangaroos

and then it traveled throughout the country. It crossed state lines. It has been all about it's hopping around.

It is hopping around. Okay. So, there's a lot of mystery with this and and it's going to be left open-ended. Far out of their natural habitats, but close to home to us

Mhm.

are some ghost kangaroos.

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I'm kind of scared. I don't want to encounter one.

For over a century, people across multiple states have reported sightings of kangaroolike creatures hopping through cornfields, standing on country roads, and even peeking into living rooms. How do we know that it's cryptids and not just an escaped group of kangaroos? So, that's the thing with this crypted and this entity, this kangaroo. There are so many stories that have kind of spread, but some of them can be traced back to an escape kangaroo or like a zoo situation, but a lot of them are just open-ended cold cases. The kangaroo cold case. One of the earliest sightings was recorded in 1899 in Richmond, Wisconsin. It was June 12th, 1899, and a storm was ripping through town when a woman saw a kangaroo leaping across her backyard, and she was certain it was a kangaroo. A whole investigation was brought into this cuz people were like, "If there's an escape kangaroo, like, we should get

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it back to where it belongs. There were no kangaroos in like local zoos, and there was a circus traveling through town, but they didn't have any kangaroos in their circus troop."

So, it was a mystery. Things go quiet. There are no further reports until 1934 in Hamburg, Tennessee. The newspaper headlines read, "Giant kangaroolike beast spreads terror in Tennessee. Vicious kangar-like animal terrorizes Marian settlement. Tennessee's odd animal seen again." H officers scoff at marauding animal. In the span of a week, this kangaroo beast was and this is this is the only like violence reported with this entity. Okay, this beast was reported multiple times killing ducks, massacring geese, taking the lives of beloved German shepherds and keep in mind kangaroos are considered herbivores. They are only violent if like they feel threatened and even

territorial sort of situation or

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something. Yeah. Even then, like if they have killed people, it's truly a territorial thing and they don't then eat

the person,

right? They're not predators.

Exactly. So, this behavior is unusual that it's killing all these animals. Unusual on top of the fact that it's unusual that they are hopping around in the US. So, the entire town gets together to track the beast

and they follow the tracks to a cave. But the cave, like once the tracks go into the cave, the tracks completely disappear. Which makes me think about the cave system with like all of these beliefs that there are cave systems under the Appalachia and that they're actually like little portals into different places. How is it getting from state to state so quickly?

Totally.

The caves,

which is like the whole thing with the missing person's map overlapping with the cave system. It's like, did people disappear into the caves or did something drag them into the caves?

Unknown. Also, there's a website called curator 135 that like has so many

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article like the newspaper screenshots that I was like, "Thanks for doing a lot of the work for me." So, a lot of the images in the YouTube video come from that article and that website. So, shout out to you. So, the town's folk never found the beast. They followed the tracks to the cave and then it was gone.

Mhm. Which also makes me think that no one wanted to go into the cave looking for it. But perhaps it teleported to another state, to New Jersey, because in May's Landing, New Jersey in 1900, a family reported a strange sound coming from their barn. Upon investigating, they saw a creature that looked like a kangaroo the size of a baby cow. They estimated at least 150 lbs, and it bounded out of the barn at an unbelievable speed and then disappeared off their property. Wow. And this was another common thing that everyone who saw it was like, "Okay, maybe I don't see kangaroos every day, so like I don't know." But it feels like it's moving at really weird speed.

Yeah.

And the hops, like the space between

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each footprint would be massive.

Wow.

And I also don't know much about how far a kangaroo can hop between each hop.

Me neither. If it was using its tail, wouldn't there be like a tail indent, too to propel it forward? I don't I don't know how kangaroos work.

Well, then that's another thing is that some of these stories say that it would hop off and then there would be no trace left behind.

Maybe these ghost kangaroos are similar to Bigfoot and that they're just because they vanished without a trace. An interdimensional being.

Yeah.

Opening up portals.

That is a theory. So 1900 scene in New Jersey. And then in 1907, I don't know, presumably it spent 6 years in the whole tri-state area. It's in Pennsylvania. And it's 1907 in Pensburgh, Pennsylvania, where multiple reportings are happening. It is spotted near Pleasant Run. Many of the witnesses stated that the creature moved extremely fast, appeared to hop or bounce. Those who saw it at a moment of stillness

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reported that it looked gray in color, had large feet and a tail, but that it had a head that resembled a sheep. which well kangaroos kind of do. Yeah.

They're like an in between like a dog and a sheep,

right?

Yeah.

And a deer

and a dingo.

And then in 1974, so there's like a good chunk of time where there aren't any like massive sightings. There's like one or two one-offs here and there, but it's almost 70 years later. Chicago is now harassed by this kangaroo beast.

Like downtown Chicago,

Garfield Ridge. It's a neighborhood of Chicago. So, it started in October. A woman named Ruth Owens calls the police and I'm sure this dispatcher was like, "Okay, this lady crazy." But Ruth Owens reports that there is a kangaroo on her porch trying to break into the back door. This is so far beyond a spectral sighting cuz these things are are spending a lot of time are very visible.

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Very. So, naturally, the dispatcher is like, "Okay, lady." But she calls it in. And so two officers show up to their house very dubious, probably like, "This is gonna be an easy one. We'll go get some coffee." Yeah.

Yeah. But they arrive and they see it. The kangaroo like beast is still there, which is also wild cuz that means that it's been there for some time and then they do a standoff. They stare each other down and then the kangaroo hops off towards the back alley. The police officers give chase, running after it on foot. But when they get into the back alley, poof, the kangaroo is gone. H they investigate and there are no reports of missing animals. They check all the zoos. Nothing. And also keep in mind like another whole theory here is maybe there's someone who's keeping exotic pets illegally,

right? Yeah. Yeah. But in all of these states, in all of these instances, and they're not reporting it,

unless there's some nomad with a pet

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kangaroo that just travels around,

maybe in the days that followed this report in October, multiple other reports come in. Drivers swore they saw a kangaroo crossing the road in front of them. One man claimed that the creature leapt over a fence that was nearly 10 ft tall, which again, I don't know how high kangaroos can hop. Another said it moved too fast to be real, like it was skipping through time. And the newspapers called it the Chicago Phantom. And it became a full-blown media phenomena all over the country. People were cracking jokes about, talking about, pontificating about. Paranormal investigators were like, "Is this a Tulpa?" What? Kangaroos can run up to 44 miles per hour.

That is crazy.

Of course, it looks like they're going through. Holy [ __ ] Okay. Kangaroos jumping height. around 10 feet.

Okay, so it it's possible this is a re real kangaroo,

but it keeps disappearing and vanishing

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into thin air.

Sometimes they're known to jump 25 to 30 feet in a single bound, too. Powerful leaps forward. So that would make sense why there's such a huge gap.

Yeah, if I saw that, I would for sure.

Beasts that you guys have out in Australia

and apparently in the US. But so a lot of people are like, "Okay, is this mass hysteria?" Like, we've heard the reports. Now, is like everyone else seeing it because it's being talked about a lot.

Is this some interdimensional being? Are there portals that it's like traveling through? Is there a time slip? Because if you think about pangia, at one point in time, all of the continents were together that maybe there's presumably all these animals were like walking all over the different areas. And that is why uh there are lake monsters.

Yes.

All over and why mermaids exist everywhere.

Exactly. So then Oh, there's like a bunch of articles where Okay. This one

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called help call task force. And I think it's like talking about police activity that week.

She throws left. Police hightail it. That's the title of the article. And then four years later in 1978, a family was sitting down for dinner and Wakusha Wukesha, what Kesha Wisconsin when a noise outside caught their attention. A kangaroo jumped through their backyard and they all saw it. And again, when they tried to give chase, no kangaroo in sight, but it could have jumped 30 feet and

or just Yeah. hight tailed it at up to 44 miles hour.

Yeah, we're not catching that.

Jeez. Two other men in town claimed to have seen and taken a photo of this kangaroo beast, but the photo is like very very difficult to find on the internet. So, if anyone finds it, let us know. And remember how it all like started in Wisconsin. It is interesting like that the last like really big report of it in 1978 is back in Wisconsin. So, it returned home to its roots. But my favorite article and my

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favorite term for this being, I can't take credit for, but it is called U, an unidentified hopping object. Hopping. Bless you. It was so funny that you couldn't laugh, you had to sneeze. I didn't know where it was going to go. I thought it was like humanoid or something. A Humane Society official called it a wild kangaroo chase, but members of a suburban family insisted Thursday that the animal seen jumping through their southeastern Wisconsin backyard was definitely not the common rabbit, cat, or dog. It was pretty quick. It was hopping and we knew it had to be a kangaroo. Somebody needs to come forward and claim their lost kangaroo.

Well, also, how long do kangaroos live for?

Yeah. How long did this stretch? Because this happened from the first report is 1899, but there are reports all the way to today. Like 1949, a bus driver saw it hop across the road in Ohio. 1963 someone saw it in Santa Clara, California. A sighting in Buffalo in

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1964. For a decade in Minnesota, residents were seeing it in 1957 to 1967. Again in Ohio, 1968, New Jersey 1989. Back in 2019, again, there's another report in Wisconsin, back to its roots, where police were called around 7 a.m. to a bridge near Fox City Stadium where a kangaroo had been spotted. And upon arrival, there's no evidence of a kangaroo. All the local kangaroos were accounted for in zoos, any like exotic animal zoos and everything,

which is wild, too, because it's not like if there were a family of kangaroos, we would know.

Yeah.

Right.

Right. You would hope, you would think.

Okay. What's your guess on lifespan before I click search?

I want to say like 50 to 70 years.

Honestly, that makes sense because I was going to say 17, but given that every fact

probably way less, but

is wrong. I'm going to guess 34.

Okay, it might be like 17.

6 to 8 years in the wild, but can live up to 20 years or more in captivity with

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proper care.

In the wild is probably

the record for a red kangaroo living in the wild was 27 years. Oh,

but so definitely not from 1899 to present day.

Yeah.

So, these sightings have happened so often and like I said, there are some instances where like people have been able to locate said kangaroo and bring it into captivity or take it off the streets.

But what about all these other instances and all these unaccounted kangaroos hopping around the US? There is a cryptozoolologist named Lauren Coleman who has written a book and done so much research about this. So if you want to read more, he wrote a book called Mysterious America all about these sightings, like a whole timeline, documenting them, trying to find evidence of like any reports of missing kangaroos

and theorizing of what it could possibly be. Wow. What do you think it is? I have like I kind of think it's it's weird because it seems like it's a real

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kangaroo, but given just like the Yeah. And like across different states and different times, it's like how often are there these rogue kangaroos that never get caught?

I know.

For a hundred years.

That's so weird.

And it would be one thing if it was Australia, right? Cuz then you'd be like, "Okay, it's Australia. There's kangaroos."

Mhm. We've never had a documentation of a kangaroo species habitating in the United States,

right? Which also makes me think, and I always think of this story, we read it many, many years ago, but from our listener, Kin, who experienced an alien abduction and was on an alien spacecraft and saw like these exam rooms for all of these different creatures and like interdimensional species, not just from Earth, were being replaced in certain areas to try to help keep them from going extinct.

Are kangaroos going extinct? And I'm like, or are kangaroos breaking loose from the spaceship and hopping through

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Wisconsin? I don't know.

I don't know.

It's such a weird mission.

Maybe you can outrun a spaceship if you can hop 44 miles per hour.

We don't know the rules.

No, we don't.

But yeah, those are your paranormal pets. Happy birthday.

Oh my gosh. Thank you.

I am so excited, too, because Okay, so there's another story that I was going to do, but it would it needs its own full episode, but it's of Keith, ski [ __ ] Ah, ski [ __ ] Ah, ski. God damn. Wait, hold on. Let me close my eyes because I'll visualize the pronunciation. I think I have a photographic memory. Um, oh, in ki. It's this bird. An African gray bird that

How did we start talking about ski?

Because I couldn't. I was trying to pronounce it, but I mispronounced it.

Oh, it's inci. It's like n apostrophe k i s i.

Okay.

And I almost said nki. Okay. Here we are. But it's this amazing story that has been so heavily researched and

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documented and tested about a woman. I think her name is Amelia. I can't remember her last name, but she owned this African gray parrot named in Kissi that could read her mind.

Telepathy.

Telepathy. And they literally have done like over 165 tests to test the telepathy between them. And I mean, of course, it's science and or not science and the people are

well, if it includes telepathy, people say,

but it's such a cool story and I'll just give you one little teaser, but I want to like cover it and give it its whole episode.

It also like the bird was the vocabulary was like over 800 words that Amelia had taught to this bird.

Birds are very smart.

Very smart. Like truly, he read her dreams.

That is so crazy.

Yeah. And then when she was watching a movie one night, like he was in the other room and he or she, I don't know, gender of the bird, would say things that were about to happen in the movie before it happened.

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It's like truly a familiar that everyone else gets to experience, too.

Yes. Um, what listener story do you

listener story

have?

Okay. So interesting that your first story was about someone coming back as a dog because this is very appropriate for the listener story I picked out. It's called My Dad Died and Came Back as our dog.

Hi girls, my name is Elena and I recently found out about your podcast through a friend and ever since I have been hooked and I think I would honestly die if I ever heard one of my stories on one of your videos.

Well, don't die.

Surprise. Stay alive. You never know if we're going to read more. I often find myself relating to other people's stories since I inherited some abilities from my grandmother who is a witch.

Oo, I've only seen her twice in my life because she lives in a whole different country. But last time I spent like 12 hours altogether listening to stories about her paranormal encounters. And of course, I shared some of mine. Back then, she told me that she believes the witchiness in our family tends to skip a generation. And due to that, my mom was

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not really gifted with such powers, but instead,

haha, mom,

I was the chosen one. As a person who has lived with my mom for now 20 years, I think that's not true at all. So, let me tell you why this story mainly revolves around my mom and my dad. My dad was not religious. He was very spiritual though and he loved animals and it always seemed like he could speak with them.

He was mostly a dog person. Didn't really like cats. But for some reason, he was the only person I know who could make cats see him as a master. Since we all know cats see you more as

okay you are papa cat

right. So especially the cat we had. It was very bossy, very nonchalant, constantly annoyed. It was an orange cat and it definitely always had an opinion. It wasn't a domestic cat and constantly roamed the streets. None of us could really ever scold it, play with it and almost never came to cuddle, but for some reason it really loved my dad. always kind of listened and learned when

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my dad would scold it. Always came home when he would come home as well. And the weirdest it ever got

sound like telepathy.

Totally.

Well, there's also like who did it has like an entire book

about like dogs and telepathy and there's all these studies about how like dogs know when their owners are going to come home even when it's not like on a routine. Like say like you decide one day to come home for lunch or like from work for lunch, the dog knew.

Which is crazy. Yeah,

cuz it's like I'm sure they did it in the test where it's like the sound of your car's tires from like a certain distance. When when did it happen?

No, it would be like the moment they were leaving work, the dog

would go wait

would like something would happen with the dog to indicate that it knew that the owner was coming home. Like telepathy realized

humans

I feel like we're just the ones left out. Like we're the dumb ones. It was like,

I think we have potential. We've lost whatever we're supposed to tap into.

Society has dumbed us down.

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Yeah.

And AI has prevented our critical thinking.

And AI doesn't give us the correct answers from the Google stuff.

Yes.

Okay. Uh, the weirdest I ever got with that cat was when my dad died. It happened out of nowhere. We were all devastated.

Oh jeez. I was 6 years old at the time, so I don't have many memories from back then, but my mom has many stories, and she's told me all of them like a hundred times, and they never get boring. She remembers very vividly the day before my father's death. She was coming back from work, and there was no one else at home. She had let the cat out in the morning and knew it would not come back until my father was home. Surprisingly, the moment she walked through the door, she saw the cat right in the middle of the living room. At first, she was confused. How did the cat even get in? Since there was nobody who could have let it in. But that confusion was soon replaced by the eerie energy around the cat. It was just sitting there staring at her like it was trying to tell her something that she couldn't understand. I have chills. And

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for some reason, my mom started getting this really uncomfortable feeling. And just as she was about to approach the cat, it started literally screaming. It wasn't just regular meowing. It sounded like it was crying, cries of pain,

like someone was torturing this cat's soul, like it was grieving.

My mom got really scared and so she kicked the cat out. She didn't sleep that night because she had this feeling that something really bad was about to happen. The next day, we found out that my dad had passed away of a heart attack. I remember that right before the funeral, I was sitting alone in the living room, and the cat came up to me and just kind of stared at me for a bit. before it came up, got in my lap and cuddled me like he wanted to give me closure.

Wait, so did dad came back as the cat?

Maybe. When we came back from the funeral, the cat was gone and we never saw the cat again. Ever since then, me and my mom started having trouble sleeping because of the exact same recurring dream. In the dream, we would

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see my dad. We'd cry and keep asking why he left us. He would always tell us that he's always with us even though we can't see him. And at some point, I stopped having these dreams, but my mom did not. A year later, we decided we should get a dog. My mom was really skeptical at first since she was still missing our cat. But after the pressure from me and my brother, she finally agreed. We got an adorable teeny tiny wiener dog exactly 1 year after my father's passing.

Oh,

it was his favorite dog breed. The first night we spent with her at home, it was also the first night my mom dreamt of something else. She had a dream where she saw my dad walking into his grave and then a few minutes later walking out of it as our new dog. Oh my god. Over the years, our dog started doing things that we felt had a connection to our dad. For example, my dad hated cigarettes, but my mom was a smoker and he would always try to get her to stop. So, our dog would always chew up all the cigarette boxes. to stop. And another

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example is that my dad absolutely loved chocolate candy that my grand would send us from Russia. He refused to eat any chocolates other than those. And as you know, chocolates are deadly for dogs. So every time we left the house, we would pick them up from the end of the table and put them somewhere else where the dog couldn't reach. Well, one time my brother was the last one to leave and he forgot to do that. My mom was furious and she was worried sick. And when we got home later that day, the dog had devoured all of the candies. She had even unwrapped them and she was perfectly fine. And this was the happiest that we had actually ever seen her in a long time. Finally,

she almost seemed confused as to why my mom was mad.

And there were so many more examples that I could give, but I've already rambled.

So, over the last 13 years, this dog has very much convinced us that this dog is our dad, who came back to support us and show us that he's always there.

Oh, that's so sweet. This story is actually not as crazy as some of the other ones I have, such as my great-granddad coming back as a ghost

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who haunted my granny, but I'll share that one in a different email. Thank you for reading and stay spooky, Elena.

Yeah, Elena, I feel like you have a lot of stories. You spent like 10 hours passing ghost stories with your grandma who's a witch,

right?

Why do I wear a shirt that says like my grandma's a witch?

That would be cool. Yeah,

we got to get our own line as if we we can't

or we could just do like grandma witch, baby witch, like you like different names for where you are.

Yeah,

that reminds me there's a really cool clothing brand that So, my friend Alison, she was just watching the movie, which I have not watched, but it's called Last Stop in Yuma Country.

Oh, yeah. I've heard of this. Um, and she sent me this still Bigfoot for president. And she then sent me the link cuz she was like, I think you need this shirt. And it's

from your wardrobe.

Local boogeoogieman.com. And they have a ton of cool like local boogeyman.com.

Yeah, they have really cool shirts.

Your wardrobe is literally just

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just all the t-shirts from local boogeyman

and white pants.

White pants and big foot.

Your wardrobe should get

I got my white cult leader. Got my white pants on.

Cult leader meets like Bigfoot Hunter.

I like that. That's the vibe.

That's your vibe.

What's your vapel wardrobe?

Um, share with us any of your encounters with the other side, whether it be with paranormal pets or just anything odd and unusual. If you've seen The Ghost Kangaroo, let us know. We want to know what's going on. Two girls one ghost podcast@gmail.com. And if you want episodes one week early and ad free, join us on Patreon. We have so many other fun bonuses over there as well.

And you can watch us on YouTube as well.

Mhm.

Shout out to Jamie Ryan who edits and produces our podcast. And thank you to all of you.

And happy birthday, Karin.

Thank you.

We love you.

Thanks.

This would not be the same without you. It really wouldn't. It would be

you and Sven.

It wouldn't exist.

We love you all

and we will see you on the other side.

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And also Sabrina got me a coffee. Stopped and got me a coffee and not herself one. So that's a true friend and birthday gift.

Very spooky.