Grim Reaper Hauntings | Near Death Experiences, Hospital Haunts & The Man in Black (x331)

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Do we all have our own Grim Reaper? In the same way that we have like guardian angels?

Yeah. Do not open your eyes. There is a dark figure next to me.

Oh my god.

This figure was standing almost 8 to 9 ft tall with black smoke coming out of its face. Johnny, you've never met me before.

[laughter]

But my name is Grim. Today's episode of It's All About the Grim Reaper and your encounters with the Grim Reaper.

Very spooky. Hello. Don't look in your closet. Don't look at the end of your bed. Oh no, it's there. You don't know who's coming. It's us. The Grim Reaper be reaping.

[laughter]

I love the Grim Reaper. The Grim Reaper has I My perspective perspective on the

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Grim Reaper has changed over the years of the podcast.

Especially when we did the episode of the Grim Reaper, but I feel like this this encounters episode might make us go back to like the scary version of the Grim Reaper. True, because today's episode of Two Girls, One Ghost

Two Girls, One Ghost is all about the Grim Reaper and your encounters with the Grim Reaper. Well, of which there are many. Um

Of which there are many. Like the Grim Reaper is supposed to be something you don't see unless you're like about to die according to lore and legend and um I'm concerned about some of you. Actually, there was a listener Did I put it in here? Are you going to read it? I can't remember because I was nervous to read it. Oh, I it is in here. Okay, well, I'm I was nervous to read it because it like left on like a really big cliffhanger. Should I just read it?

Yeah, I was like, wait, can we start with that one? There's no reason not to.

I it's from 2019, the original email. Okay.

I sent a follow-up email being like, "Hey, are you okay?"

[laughter]

And they haven't responded.

Oh. It's not about things specifically, but like it Okay. Well, you know what I

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think Okay, sorry to interrupt for for you're about to go into this.

I wasn't meaning to start. I was more like I think about the one listener's story. Maybe it was when we did the Grim Reaper episode a while back. I think about that one listener who would see the Grim Reaper and know when like a neighbor or someone was going to die cuz they would watch the Grim Reaper go into these people's houses.

It gave me the chills.

And then within a couple days that person would have passed.

kind of like this story.

[gasps]

Okay. Okay. How are you all [laughter] doing? I feel like we just jumped into it because you and I haven't recorded in 2 weeks either.

Yeah, well, and also it's an encounters. I feel like we jump into encounters a lot.

We do. We do. But it felt like I felt like we didn't get to catch up and then we didn't check in on all of you.

[laughter]

How are you guys doing? Do you Have you switched over to your iced coffee yet?

Do you see what I see? Hopefully not if it's the Grim Reaper.

Grim Reaper hovering over my husband

Okay. This is from a listener. They gave a fake name for privacy. Mhm. Jasmine.

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Hello Karen and Sabrina and cute Leia. I'm from California. I just wanted to start off by saying how much I enjoy your podcast even though I get scared about everything and anything. [laughter] I started listening about 3 months back because a good friend of mine suggested it to me and I'm almost done with the episodes, but I only listen at work cuz I'm too scared to listen at my home. I wanted to share a few things that have been going on. Some of my stories are mine, but most of them are my husband's and they make me terrified. This first story happened the past weekend which was back in May of 2019. And it has been the most frightful of them all. My husband and I were asleep. And since a lot of things have been going on, we're no longer heavy sleepers like we used to be. All of a sudden we are both woken up. My husband and I are shaking. Like terrified shaking. Jeez. My husband starts saying, "Don't open your eyes." Me, terrified, shaking, said, "Why? What's going on?" He said, "Do not open your eyes. There is a dark figure next to me." Oh my god, I'd be

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freaking the [ __ ] out.

So, I don't open my eyes because I knew, yes, I was going to freak the [ __ ] out.

Also, everything we know, I'd be like, is it even my husband talking to me?

Like, is this something [laughter] else?

but I also when someone tells me not to look, I I just have to. Yeah. And also, we'd be more we'd feel more prepared than any partner.

Yeah. To deal with said shadow. Agreed.

very scary. When this was happening, I felt my shoulder get cold, and I tried to like pull the blankets up to get covered up, but I could not, no matter what, get It was just my shoulder being freezing cold. I could not warm it up. I had no idea what was happening until the next morning when we really woke up, and I asked my husband, "What the hell happened last night? Is everything okay?" He looked at me with a serious face and said the Grim Reaper visited last night. He stood next to him by the bed staring at him without saying a word. I mean, I I I already have questions because it's like how many paranormal experiences has this guy had? Did he see just like

a dark figure and be like, "Oh, that has

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to be the Grim Reaper." Like, okay.

[laughter]

I'm like, "Shit, did he actually see the Grim Reaper?" Yeah, the Grim Reaper introduced himself. "Hello, my name is Grim, {comma} Reaper."

John, you've never met me before,

[laughter]

but my name is Grim. Nice to meet you. Actually, I like the name Grim. It's very black doggy wolf. Yeah. Yeah. This figure was standing almost 8 to 9 ft tall with black smoke coming out of its face. After he saw the figure, we both tried to fall asleep, and it took a while cuz keep in mind, I was not opening my eyes, but we were also terrified. After this, my husband had a dream. And in his dream, he was in a gray room, and it was just him and the Grim Reaper, and all he heard was this. "It is your time." But in Spanish. [clears throat] The Grim Reaper basically was telling my husband he was going to die. And then she attached a photo of what they saw and it just it's a photo of the Grim Reaper like with the scythe. Holy [ __ ] It's so scary to think too that he was awake during it and awake enough to be able to alert his

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wife. Well, they both were shaking like they were physically having a paranormal experience while the Grim Reaper was just in their space. Yeah, cuz I almost think of it as like people are so far close to death that they're almost like in a delusion and no one else will know that they're seeing anything or it's like in their sleep they'll have a dream about it. But this is there's basically a witness. So, my husband told me that this is not the only time he has seen the Grim Reaper which is also why he knew. The last time he saw him was a few days or a week before his uncle passed away. Again, the Grim Reaper showed up and that time told him what was going to happen to his uncle. But this time the Grim Reaper showed up and said it's your time. Like it was very specific saying it's your uncle who's going to die and like said how he was going to die. Why in my mind I know that it would still involve him dying but for some or like a version of that but for some reason my mind immediately went to Tim Allen's

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Santa Claus it's his time to become the Grim Reaper it's his turn. I would watch that in a second.

[laughter]

Should we should this be our passion project? TM it's ours.

[laughter]

The spin-off.

[gasps]

Uh and I want to play the Grim Reaper the dead one. I want to I want to be the Grim Reaper who dies. I've always wanted to play a dead body on a TV show. Oh well, here's your moment. Let's write it. Write it and write it again and Alfred Hitchcock love it. You get to be in every single one of his films and have a scene. He does? Yeah, he's in every single one of his films. Oh [ __ ] Now I got to rewatch them and look for him. Um okay, it's been 3 days now since this dream and nothing has happened. But last night I had a dream and I saw the Grim Reaper and he told me it was meant for my dad and he gave me the date of 10/26. I have no idea what that means. Is that the day? Is that the month and the year? I've been so uneasy and worried and I'm not sure what to do. What do you ghouls think? It's terrifying. My second story

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What do we think? We think you should follow up to Sabrina's inquiry. I Well, and I'm so concerned. Okay.

Yeah. So, we haven't heard back. I sent this email like 3 days ago asking, but okay. That's the Grim Reaper part and then there's the second story. This happened last year in 2018. My husband and I stay in my parents' basement. I know you guys don't like basements and it can be creepy sometimes even though the house was built new and they moved in before it was just land. That literally means nothing. My parents built the house that I constantly talk about.

haunted house was a brand new build.

Yep.

Yeah.

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We were watching TV and we were dozing off, falling asleep. I was trying to get comfortable when all of the sudden I saw a tall black figure in the wall as if someone was walking past and their shadow had reflected on the wall. Oh, interesting. My husband and I were both laying down. We both saw it, shot up, looked at each other and said, "You saw that, right?" And we both said, "Yes." In order for there to be a shadow on the wall, someone had to walk by the TV

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which was right in front of us and there was no one there but the two of us. The windows were shut. It was completely dark except for the TV being on and I still do not know what this was, but I just wish things would stop happening. I have more stories that include black magic and a witch and more dark figures. Please let me know if you want to hear them. Yeah.

Keep up the great work. See you on the other side. Scaredy Cat, Jasmine. Scaredy Cat, Jasmine. Um Isn't that very like I'm very concerned? Yeah, cuz I I keep looking for for something else. Like, it's your time. Your time for what? But I'm like, okay, well, what other context with the Grim Reaper? Say that and I'm like desperately searching for I know. It's your time to do a little dance. Right. Yeah. Your time to shine. It's your time to

Reaper is a person to perform for. The Grim Reaper is a person

Sourdough starters is waiting [laughter] for you on your counter when you wake up. Is that your new hobby that you want to pursue? I can't

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I can't even eat it.

one? Can I? Yeah. I've always been too nervous to try. You can totally. All right, well, maybe I'll try. You can do anything if you believe in it. [laughter] Including conquer your allergens. I have no idea, but it also sounds like it's just everything their life has like the paranormal experiences are all kind of like dark and shadowy. Yeah.

So Well, okay, here is about Jasmine's dream. I I don't know what to say about like her husband experiencing the Grim Reaper saying it's your time. I hope it's for sourdough or to become the Grim Reaper because that's fun, but maybe Jasmine had that dream the next night about the Grim Reaper saying it's about your dad because she was so scared. Yeah. And like we don't understand dreams, but like I do think when you have a really big fear, sometimes like your dreams manifest that and share you like share a message. They don't all mean something paranormal. Okay, well, okay. Let's go off of this idea. What if in 45 years from now Mhm. it is her

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husband's time and he is getting visited by the Grim Reaper, but he is like revisiting all of the moments in his life that really stood out in at this time. And for some reason something about like that day or just like being in bed with his wife, it's like he goes back in time and his memory is so intense Yeah.

Grim Reaper is with him showing him all these moments of his life. Yeah. It was life reflection 45 years in the future. It's not about today. Yeah. No, and I Okay, I have no answer to that, but I also want to make it clear I don't think the Grim Reaper is bad. I think yes, seeing the Grim Reaper is a scary It's a very scary visage visage visage image. image [laughter and clears throat] image Is she okay? No. Well, cuz yeah, before we started the podcast and heard things about like [clears throat] actual experiences with the Grim Reaper, you think of an entity coming to like literally murder you. Right. Which is

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not what the Grim Reaper is.

it's more of like he's your he's ushering you to the other side, and yes, carrying a scythe is very scary, but I almost view that as he's going to fend off any like negative entities that are trying to take your soul. Yes. [clears throat] He's your He's your guy.

the way. You're going to have a gentle easy step forward into your actual state. He just has to blend into the shadows. Actually, black make it is slimming. It makes him look better, and it's what he's comfortable in. Oh, have you seen There's an artist who does like images and also animations of this like really cute little Grim Reaper. Oh, I have seen it. Yes, it's so cute.

every time cuz it's like the Grim Reaper just wants friends and wants to like be around, but then the butterfly dies when it gets too close. I like to think that there's multiple Grim Reapers, that it's not just one. Cuz that's a lot of work to do for one person. Yeah. And I like to think that when you're in the afterlife, it's a little bit more leisurely, and it's like a hobby That's their hobby to help people cross to the

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other side, and there's like a whole group. Oh, and they have meetings.

they have cloaks because it's like they have to hide their identity. Yeah. Yeah. It's a uniform.

Cuz people would be confused if there's like a thousand of them.

17,000 different Grim Reaper faces out there. So, I also like that idea because then that means I can be a Grim Reaper when I, you know You said it in the beginning, you can do whatever you want as long as you believe in it. As long as you believe in it.

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Wait. This is my new girl math ideology. Okay.

Okay. So, you can get like a doctorate in like many different topics and things. It doesn't mean like you're an official like doctor, right? We've been doing this podcast for almost 9 years, which makes me think we are qualified to say we have doctorates.

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That's my karma. So funny. Wait, someone had just either commented or like DM'd saying that we should be on um Why can't I remember Ali Ward's ologies? They were like, "You should be on ologies." And I was like, "To talk about what?" [laughter] Like, what are we an expert in? Delusionology?

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[laughter]

Fake it till you make it? Like, what? But it was it was a nice compliment.

Yeah, it was a nice compliment.

like that. Yeah. You can call us Dr. Sabrina, Dr. Corrine.

[laughter and gasps]

Yeah, interesting. Next story. Next story.

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my dead grandma unalived my sister

Okay, this is an interesting subject line. Oh. It is called my dead grandma unalived my sister. Grandma's

concerning. Concerning. Do we like grandma? Was grandma chiller was she or was she like mean? came a grim reaper and helped usher. Yeah. I don't know. We'll find out. Let's hear.

We will find out. Okay, this is from Adri, I think is how you pronounce the nickname. Okay. And

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there are some content warnings for death of a kid and domestic violence. And typically when people send in stories like this, if things get a little too intense, we do try to take out some of the details. Yeah.

On the fly. So, we'll give you another warning when it comes up. Okay. I came across y'alls podcast on YouTube a couple weeks ago and I love it. I work graveyard shifts, 10 plus hours a night, and your podcast always plays all night long for me.

graveyard shift? I'm so curious.

Right.

Like nursing? Yeah, what do you do? Security. Hm. I'm throwing a few encounters that my family and myself have had with the supernatural. I've always had a connection to spirits and the supernatural. I'm almost 24, but for as long as I can remember, I have always been able to see and communicate with spirits only when they want to be seen or communicated with. Like a cat. Yeah. So, it's interesting cuz it's not like it almost is like you lack control over when you get to experience things.

Like you can't be like a psychic and medium and just be like, "Okay, I'm

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ready to open the channel or whatever. I'm calling upon these people." No, you have to wait for them to want to talk to you.

Yeah. [laughter] Oh god. Is this thing on? My sister was 11 months older than me, and my doctor said that my mom was allergic to my sister. Some weird blood type stuff. It's the Rh-negative Oh my gosh. thing. Yeah. Woah.

They get have to get tested for. Some weird blood type stuff I still don't really understand, but my sister was also a micro preemie baby. My sister was born at 24 weeks on the dot weighing 1 lb and [sighs and gasps] 3 oz. Oh my gosh. She was in the NICU for months and while she was still in the NICU, my mom got pregnant again with me. At the time we lived in Port Lavaca, Texas. My parents ran this bar on a beach. So they were friends with everyone in town.

That is very cool.

That's so cool.

Yeah. It's also so like I know Texas has a huge coastline, but I literally never think of Mhm. Texas beach.

Beaches. Like you go to the ocean? What? When news got out that my sister had

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finally come home from the hospital, which was 3 months after she was born, she had a lot of visitors, but my parents didn't want any unnecessary germs. So my mom would basically just show my sister through a window and visitors [laughter] would look at her from the outside. My dad was outside chatting with our neighbor when one of the game wardens, who was also a family friend, came by to see my sister and to see how we were all doing. My mom was inside with my sister and my dad and my neighbor was outside with my dad and the game warden when my mom noticed that there was a shadow behind the game warden. And the shadow was a little bit darker than both my dad and the neighbor's shadows. So my mom takes a closer look at his shadow and she swears that the shadow is not his shadow. It looks like the Grim Reaper. Oh no. Both of my parents were [clears throat] raised Catholic, so my mom stepped away from the window with my sister and started praying.

I mean I can't even imagine the panic she probably had. Yeah. Cuz like she hasn't Yeah, this child who spent so many months in the NICU.

Yeah. It's a miracle that she's able to

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bring her home. Yeah. Oh my gosh. After the neighbor and the game warden left, my dad came inside and said, "Did you see that?" Which was shocking because my father did not believe in the supernatural. 4 days later, they found the obituary for the game warden printed in the newspaper. Oh my gosh. Okay, on to some of the other stories. When I was about 1, my sister was 2, and a hurricane came through the Gulf. At this time, my dad was working for an oil company and he was about an hour and a half away from where we lived and he didn't have time to make it home for us to evacuate. Oh my gosh.

The roads were already closed, but the city officials told my dad that he was allowed to go home, but once he made it home, his only option was to hunker down. He could not evacuate. We rode out the hurricane together and after it had passed, our house and only a few other structures on the beach weren't flooded or damaged. That is so lucky. My mom thinks that there was a guardian angel watching over the house during the hurricane. Wow. Both of my parents are from the desert of West Texas and

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realized that that hurricane was too much water. So, they sold the house, picked up and we moved north back to the dry desert area of Texas. When I was 5, my dad's work had transferred him to Farmington, New Mexico. So, we picked up and moved there. At this time, my mom was a nurse and she basically could just go wherever she was needed. So, moving with the family wasn't a huge issue. In Farmington, there was a very diverse population which consisted of a lot of native people and my family became friends with this Navajo family because our moms worked together and they had daughters around the same age as us. So, by default, our dads also had to become friends.

Of course. Which is how men work.

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Our parents were outside barbecuing while us kids were inside playing and that is when my parents were told about flush pedestrians. My father's a skeptic, but my mother believed every single word of it. My mom had overheard

Especially in New Mexico. Yeah. Also, like, you're new to the area. Believe whatever someone's telling you.

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Mhm. My mom had overheard some of her native co-workers talking about it a few times and also learned that was disrespectful to ask them about it, so she never did until this night when her friends brought it up first. My mom had a billion questions, and of course her friend was happy to answer any question. That same night, after everyone had gone to bed, my sister and I both overheard my mom and dad talking, so we both kind of learned also what flesh pedestrians were that night as well.

[clears throat]

Months had gone by. We had not experienced anything in that nature until one night. We were on a trip back from Albuquerque to Farmington. I was asleep in the back seat of our car, and my sister was half asleep. Our dog was with us. He was in the trunk of our SUV. My parents were cautious about leaving us in the car because it was the end of fall and beginning of winter, and my dad and my mom had both been needing to use the restrooms, so they didn't think they'd be out of the car for any longer than maybe 2 minutes. But my dad, who was a retired firefighter and EMT, took the keys out of the ignition, locked the car so both

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him and my mom could run to the gas station really, really quick, use the restroom, and where we were parked was at a gas pump underneath the light right next to the window of the convenience store. So anyone in the store could see our car. So this made them feel like they could dash in and dash out. I had woken up to our dog in the trunk throwing a fit. Just your panties. He's barking, he's growling like I'd never seen him do before, and I heard my {quote} dad knocking, calling both my sister and my name from the back of the car. Oh my gosh. I was about to turn and look when my sister grabbed my hand and said, "Don't. Don't look. Close your eyes. Jack will keep us safe." which is their dog. So I did what my big sister said. Holding her hand, crying, but keeping my eyes shut. A Native American man from inside the convenience store came out screaming with my dad and my mom following right behind him. The man So they all saw it. Yeah. The man scared away what they believed

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to be a flesh pedestrian. My mom to this day will not speak about what happened. She can't even describe what she saw behind our car that night. She said it kind of looked like a normal person, but it wasn't and it was more of like an energy and for a split second she was questioning if she had even seen what she had seen. They all saw it, all of them. I mean, how brazen of this entity?

It [clears throat] only takes a minute. It makes me think it was watching. Like it was it was following them for a while. Yeah.

Waiting for an opportunity to have the girls alone. It makes me wonder, too, cuz like one of the reputations of flesh pedestrians is that when you speak about them, it's almost like turning on the light and calling them to you. Right.

me wonder if there was any sort of reference or conversation or just like constant thought about it.

going to say. Yeah, cuz sometimes if I think about it too hard, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, don't think about it for more than a minute cuz something might come."

when you tell yourself to not think about it, you think about it more. Yeah.

Luckily, and not to say that they they aren't up here, but like we're definitely not in a hot spot for it.

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Yeah. It felt like an eternity, but honestly, it was probably more like 15 seconds from the time that I woke up to the time that that man came running yelling from the store. Okay, so now on to the main story, which is so crazy cuz like these are the

so many. Yeah. And the reason for the title that probably caught your eye because there is a backstory, so stay with me. I promise it will all make sense. My mom is Latina and she's one of 12 kids. Oh my gosh.

has nine brothers and two sisters and she's one of the middle children. There's [clears throat] so many middle children. Yeah.

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really the only like thing is the the first and last.

You're the oldest or the youngest. Otherwise, you're a middle. Otherwise, you're just in the middle. The age gap between her and her older sisters was about 15 years. Oh, wow. So by the time my mom was a teenager, she was the only sister in the house. Her older sisters and some older brothers were already moved out of the house and starting families of their own. And so doing all of the household duties fell on my mom while her brothers went out and worked. If my mom made even the slightest

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mistake doing anything, my grandma would discipline my mom. And this really did borderline on domestic violence multiple occasions.

It's so sad. My mom wouldn't be working fast enough, or she wouldn't cook fast enough for the family. I'm going to skip over some of this stuff, but for like a blanket explanation of what is going on, there were times when like attempted drownings and

Oh my gosh. Like the general punishments and cutting hair and just like really terrible, terrible things happened.

Yeah, that's awful.

[sighs and gasps]

Okay. My mom couldn't take it anymore. She hated how my grandma treated her. So, my mom left when she was 16. She ran away from the house and got married to her first husband. My dad was her second husband. In 1994, or maybe it was 1995, and then my mom got a call from her brother saying that their mom was in the hospital and wouldn't make it through the night. After everything that my grandma had put my mom through, my mom still drove 2 hours away to say goodbye to her mom. Okay. [clears throat]

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When my mom got to the hospital, only two of her brothers and her mom were in the hospital room. My mom kneeled down to give her mom a hug and kiss on the forehead. And when my mom was about to stand back up, her mom pulled her back down and told my mom word for word, "I'm taking one of your girls." Just loud enough for my mom and one of the brothers to hear. Evil. Evil. Not long after my grandma passed away peacefully in her sleep. The crazy thing is, my mom only had two daughters. My sister, born in June of 2000, and myself, born in May of 2001. When I was three, my sister was four, and my mom and sister were standing in the hallway by my room when my mom heard me having a full-on conversation. She had never heard me talking to myself like this, so she asked my sister, who was next to her, who I was talking to, and she said, "Oh, is she talking to her imaginary friend?" And my sister goes, "No, she's talking to grandma." Insert [clears throat] grandma's name here. And she writes, "I don't speak my grandma's name out loud

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cuz I do not want to bring that energy around."

Yeah, fair. So, we don't know grandma's name. We don't need to.

And we don't need to. Yeah. My mom told me that to this day she didn't know where she had gotten the strength, but she managed to pick myself and my sister up, each in one hand, and run us out to the car. She drove to her brother's house a few blocks away, and told her sister-in-law and brother what had just happened. This was the same brother that had been in the room when my grandma had said those last words.

heard it. Oh my [clears throat] gosh. Both my aunt and uncle went and cleansed our house of any negative spirits and energy. My mom did not take my sister and I back home until my dad had gone back home from work later that night. And when she told my dad what happened, my grandma had passed away years before my sister and I were born, and my mom had never told us anything about her mom. She barely even spoke to her mom, and when she told my dad everything that she'd been through and what had happened that day, there was no doubt that this really was my grandma's ghost who I was talking to. There's no other explanation for who

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else it could possibly be. My mom also knows that this was not the first time I had spoken to her, and she knew this because how would my sister, who was not in the room with me, know that I was talking to grandma when my mom asked? It also makes me think that her sister had been talking to grandma, too. Mhm. Uh. And now this is where content warning for child loss comes in. It was the first day of spring break in 2008, and my mom had a few days off and decided that night that she would take a little trip to Carlsbad, New Mexico for the weekend. We lived in Midland, Texas at the time, so it was going to be a fun two-hour trip. Since it was the first day of spring break, my mom let my sister and I sleep in a little bit, and I remember waking up to my mom shaking me saying, "Call 911, something is wrong with sister." Mhm. And then running back to her room, I grabbed my phone, I went to my sister's room. I won't go into great detail about what happened, but after an hour of EMTs and another 2 hours of trauma doctors, nurses, med students, and so many other people trying, they finally had a call time for death for my sister. Everyone

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did everything that they could, even down to putting a pacemaker in my sister thinking that maybe she was having a heart problem. My parents were divorced at the time, so I had to call my dad and we were following the ambulance Oh. to the hospital. When they finally called it, my mom and I were so distraught, so upset. I couldn't pry my mom off of my sister's body. My dad had called my uncle and not long after our families came filing in. Five aunts, six uncles, lots and lots of cousins. My sister was only 17 at the time. And after about 30 minutes

I know. After about only 30 minutes, a couple of nurses that my mom had worked with in the past came to settle my mom down and help her leave the room so that they could take my sister away for an autopsy and toxicology. My mom and I actually weren't allowed to go home for a while. Because my sister was only 17 and she was relatively healthy, the police department actually opened up a case and had a search warrant for our house to investigate if there was any likely cause of death, like drugs or something

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in the house. Of course, they could only find the basics, like mydol. My family and I were sitting in what looked like a conference room in the hospital waiting for detectives to tell us that we could go home and we were silently crying, praying to ourselves, and holding each other's hands when my uncle said, "Do you know what today is?" And we all looked up at him. And he said,

No. "Sister, it's March 10th." Is that the anniversary? I didn't understand what he meant by that, but my mom's brother's eyes got wide. They all looked at my mom. March 10th was my grandma's birthday. The grandma that told my mom she was going to take one of her girls. For years, my mom had thought in the back of her head that my grandma would have found a way to take me because I was the one who had communicated with her when I was young. But it turns out it was my sister. I hate grandma. Hate her.

Right? She's evil. Evil evil person.

Later that day we were cleared to go home. My sister's autopsy results came back the same day we were planning her funeral arrangements. She had passed

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away from a pulmonary embolism.

[clears throat]

Her passing was basically just completely out of the blue. Everything else on the report came back perfectly normal.

So terrifying. So sad. And that's pretty much it for this email. I was 16 when my sister passed away and I'm now 24 with a 4-year-old son. I've had a few dreams about my sister and there've been a few times when my son was a baby where I'd catch him looking over my shoulder laughing and smiling at someone behind me and I think it was my sister. Not a day goes by where I don't miss her. She was my best friend and she would have been such a great aunt to my son, but I know that she's in a better place. Thank you for the amazing podcast, Adri. I am so sorry for your loss. I

Terrifying. Terrible. Yeah, it's so devastating. And how evil. How I know. Just

It's like it's almost like you let your guard down. Like you have that warning and you so you like think that it would happen when the kids are really young. Hate that so much.

Yeah. Grandma is evil.

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[sighs]

And also Adri's family's just like super in tune with the paranormal. Like an encounter with a flesh pedestrian, seeing a grim reaper. Yeah. So many different things. Jeez. All

seeing the Grim Reaper

right. We never said it would be an uplifting episode.

No. [laughter] Definitely not. All right, well this one's a little bit more uplifting. Kind of. Okay. In the sense of it's not there's no death necessarily. There's near death. Okay, this is from a listener Emily and it's called Seeing the Grim Reaper. Hi Karen, hi Sabrina. I recently found your podcast and I cannot stop watching and listening to your podcast all the way over in Australia. I am absolutely hooked. So, when I was little and I didn't begin to start experiencing this shadow until I was five. But when I was little, I lived in this house which I absolutely loved. But one thing set me back from sleeping in my own room. I had sliding doors for a bedroom door and in this doorway, I would always see this shadow. It looked like the Grim Reaper.

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And no matter where I moved my bed, it would stand at either side of the doors just watching me. To the point where I was scared to go to bed and I would always run to my mom and dad's and sleep in their bed or I would scream for my mom to sleep in my bed. But I would never see this entity until I went to bed. That's so creepy. Now, we moved out 2 years later when I was seven and once we moved into this new house, all was normal until I started experiencing near-death experiences every once in a while. Like there's a bunch. That is absolutely terrifying. No wonder the Grim Reaper's like standing there waiting. Like he's nothing to do with it. He's just like, "Man, you're this is a risky life. I'm just going to like be near you." Right. So the first one when I was 8 years old in the year of 2007. My best friend came over to stay the night and I recently found out that I could do backflips off of my pink bunk bed. I slept on the top bunk. Oh boy, did I learn. The last time I did a backflip off of the top bunk, it

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tremendously failed. I did it wrong and I landed on the crown of my head hearing a crack in my head.

[sighs]

I was lucky to actually have survived that because it could have ended up so much worse.

Oh my god. The second one when I was 10 years old, later turning 11 that year in 2009. Long story short, I was hit with a long heavy wooden pick handle, like the handle of a pickaxe, and I went into shock and lost a liter of blood. I woke up in the hospital having survived with only a couple of stitches in my forehead. The third one was when I was 11 turning 12 in 2010. So for weeks, I had been suffering from a really bad head cold that led to a bad chest infection in our winter, so late July to mid-August. I was put on antibiotics, but they weren't working. My last trip to the doctors, I had literally passed out on the reception floor because I couldn't breathe and my nails were turning purple, like ready to fall off.

I was rushed to the hospital and diagnosed with severe mycoplasma pneumonia. And if I hadn't come in, I

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would have died within the next hour or two. Jesus. I had like a punch card, like fifth visit free. Cuz these are really extreme.

I had to undergo a lot of physio in and out of the hospital for a while. I was in the hospital for 3 weeks and finally came out on the week of my 12th birthday. Wow. I don't know how, but I feel like I was supposed to have died all three of those times, but maybe I have a guardian angel watching over me. Oh, I hate this. This is like Final Destination. After that, I never had a near-death experience until 2020, which is a week after I turned 22. Okay, so a full decade. Right. I had a full tonsillectomy, removal of both tonsils and the soft palate in my nose. I later got told after the surgery that during surgery, I had a mini stroke and nearly died. Like that's a freak accident too or like a freak experience. Yeah. My grand- It's so terrifying cuz you're like literally having a medical emergency during surgery. Like Yes.

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That's so scary. past during surgeries. I know. She like that's you have the whole team of medical professionals like there. How? I know. I definitely believe my grandparents were watching over me. And now after that, I have a numb left side. And now a month before that experience, I was sleeping peacefully. I entered a deep sleep, but later that night, I woke up with sleep paralysis. And there it was, the Grim Reaper, who I had not seen after so many years, was just floating at the end of my bed watching me. And then this happened. I have not seen the Grim Reaper again. I hope to never see it again because I feel like it only ever warns me of my future or I don't know, curses me. I don't know, but I'd like to hear what you think. Love you girls. Have a great day. See you on the other side. Much love, Emily. Are you like the Harry Potter of the Grim Reaper's world, maybe? Or it's like he's just coming cuz he can't believe that you're surviving so much.

I know. I got to see this girl for

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myself.

Right. Like I don't think the Grim Reaper, yes, it's scary to see that entity, but I don't really think that the Grim Reaper's like causing these. I think it's it's there

Yeah. in case the near-death experience turns into It almost feels like the Grim Reaper is only supposed to show up when death is actually about to happen, but somehow she keeps cheating death. Right. So he's just like I have to stay here all the time. Again? Like what what? Like good for you. Well, then this also brings up a conversation that I hate I love hate to talk about and I feel like yeah.

Fate. Yeah. What is fate? And clearly it's not the most predictable. Like maybe there's like an energy that shift that happens and the Grim Reaper reads and is like, okay, this person is near death and they show up, but that doesn't guarantee the death. It's hard cuz it's like we only have the perspective of what we've been told of our human

brains. with our human pee brains cuz it's like in one part I'm like, okay, well, let's

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think about all the stories where people were, you know, like the cat suddenly attacks the ankle and they needed to go back inside and get a band-aid and that stopped them from being in a massive pile up and like dying. But it's like, did the Grim Reaper know that the cat was going to do that already? Or like Well, we don't know. Do guardian angels already know that things were supposed to happen and like 7 days prior were like, I'm going to interfere and the Grim Reaper's like, great, I don't even have to show up cuz they're going to say like what Right. What feels like we had a miracle but was actually planned. But then that's what it makes it feel like unfair. Was it planned or like why can some guardian step in at certain moments and then others don't or

Yeah. are people missing message Yeah, it's like what's the rhyme or reason?

know. Ugh, my god. But so far with these three stories, Grim Reaper isn't bad but grandma is. But that grandma Grandma's?

Grandma's

[laughter]

not a good grandma. Smear campaign. Just that one grandma. Yeah, that one grandma. Terrible, terrible.

other grandmas but specifically Yeah. that Okay. Call her

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Grimma.

[laughter]

Grimma Grimma

Grimma

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Grim Reaper lingering in hospital room

What? All right, I have a Grim Reaper story from our listener Amber. Amber says, I have worked in hospitals since 2005. I started out as a PCT, which is a nurse's aide, and then eventually became an RN. When I worked at the bedside doing direct patient care, I was in the ICU. I now work in nursing professional development, which is nursing education, at the same hospital that I started out in. Early in my career, I had a patient that was elderly, and we're going to call her Emma, which is definitely not her name, but I don't want HIPAA accusations over here. Fair. Well, she was doing well and even was going to transfer out of ICU soon. I went in her room to get some vital signs, and it was still dark outside her window. To keep patients on a sleep-wake cycle, we had these lights in the hallway, and the room was very low. When I walked in, Emma said to me,

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"Who is that outside my door?" And I turned around quickly, but then I saw no one was in the hallway. Yet, I did get the feeling we were being watched. Mhm.

I told Emma there's no one there, but she was persistent. And so, I even went and I moved the curtain so that she could see, and then I turned on some of the lights. She asked me to shut the door because the man is outside of the door. Oh. I slammed the door, and this is probably important to share that I am a scaredy-cat. So, it really doesn't take much to scare me. I can listen to scary stories, I can read them, but I cannot watch scary movies, and I certainly don't want to find myself with a ghost. So, yeah, sure, I slammed that door in the invisible person's face outside of the hallway. I have zero time for any of these shenanigans. Emma continued to talk to me about what the man looked like. Of course, he was dressed in all black with a hood. Nope. I'm not doing this today. I remind myself that Emma has had some dementia. I give myself a pep talk. I will not be the victim of a shadow in this person's

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room. So, I go back to Emma later, and she's very upset because the man in black is now standing by the door inside of her room. Oh, he's getting closer and closer. Even though I just walked in the room, I turned around expecting to see him and I can just feel that there is something there. I have chills. Of course the lights are on, the curtain is pulled back and there's nothing. Not even a shadow that I can blame this on. Since Emma is now increasingly agitated, I look at the same spot that she's pointing to and I say, "Sir, you need to leave now. Emma does not want you here." I love that this is her approach.

Yeah. Like that's the best

Mhm.

[laughter]

And it's also respectful. It's not like, "Be gone!" Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, "Not now."

also making Emma not feel crazy and like helping [clears throat] help her feel safe, yeah. Emma settled down and I went about my day. So, the day keeps moving and Emma continues to have these moments of agitation. As I check on her, the man in the black hood is making his way closer and closer

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to her bed. Which I understand is super scary, but I feel like as a Grim Reaper, it like must be part of their job to show up days before and be there, be a presence that they see so that when they do cross over and it's just the two of them. It's not as terrifying.

Yeah. Hopefully. So, he's making his way closer and closer to the end of the bed. Eventually, he's sitting on the couch like visiting hours didn't end at noon or something. She's adamant that he is here and she is becoming more and more scared and I can see the fear on her face. Yeah. She points to him. She literally can't take her eyes off of this man. This man that I cannot see. By this point, I'm very freaked out. Most patients will go in and out of these spells, but hers are consistent and I am certain that we have a presence in the room with us. Mhm. So, I decide I'm going to be stern. I'm going to kick this demon out of the room with threats now. I'm 100% sure demons respond to threats, right? So, I look at the invisible man and I say, "Sir, I have

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asked you several times to leave. Visiting hours are over and Emma does not want you here. Leave or I will get security.

[laughter]

Yeah, you heard me. I told that demon, obey visiting hours. Don't just walk through the walls. Secondly, I threatened them with security. Can you imagine that call to security? Yes, security, I have a demon here. Can you please make them leave the premises?

[gasps]

Emma thanks me and calms down. Like maybe Mr. Demon did leave the room. I realize my shift is almost done and after I check on my other patients, I decide to let Emma know that I am leaving for the day. From the door I can tell that she's terrified and looking out towards the window in her room. I gently ask her what's wrong and she starts whispering. She's shaking. [laughter] She's so scared. She whispers that the man is standing right beside her, now looking at her.

Oh. I have never wanted to run so fast in my life, but that would be very unprofessional. So, I decide to ask Mr. Demon to leave one more time. Seeing the fear on Emma's face, I know that we are

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dealing with some sort of maybe evil presence. I don't know. I cannot say, but I also cannot stand to just see her so upset.

Yeah. So, I get all up in what I assume is Mr. Demon's face and for the record, I must have assumed that he was somewhat taller than me because I [clears throat] was looking up and shoving my finger forward like right up into where I thought his face would be. And I talk to him so sternly and I tell him his time is up. He needs to leave Emma alone. He has zero business here. I tell Emma goodbye and I storm out of that that room so fast that I hope the demon would not be able to catch me. And I clock out feeling great about how sassy I was. And that is when I hear it. A code blue for the ICU. Literally as she's clocking out.

[sighs]

I throw my bag down. I run to the unit. I stop at the end of the hall. It was Emma. She went into cardiac arrest.

Oh my god. And Emma ended up dying. There was absolutely nothing we could do to save her. The gravity of the situation hit me like a ton of bricks.

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I had been threatening death all day long and I had no idea. I now truly believe that death had been with us all day and despite my best attempts, he would not leave. I carried some guilt for a while over the years despite how many death experiences I have had, I have not had another experience as strong as this one. I'm sure he was there and I've talked to him again since. Sometimes he would listen and leave, other times he did not. Damn Amber.

I've chills. I know. And Amber, that's so not your fault. You're a good nurse. What an amazing nurse. Please, please, not that, not now. But also like it's not your fault. Like you can't you're not God. No. Also, I'm thinking of the Grim Reaper's perspective now too where like

[laughter]

he comes and he's like, "Oh gosh, this nurse again." Yeah. So like on a bad day he's like, "I can't do it. I'm finally [laughter] here." It's like I woke up on the wrong side of the bed. I don't have any energy.

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Freaking Amber again.

[laughter]

She's always all up in my face. That's I mean Amber, you're an amazing nurse and your patients are lucky to have you.

Grim Reaper story

I have one more from our listener Lex and it's called Grim Reaper story. Hiya Ghostesses. My name is Lex and I have many spooky stories, but I'm going to share one of my very first encounters and of course it has to do with the Grim Reaper. When I was younger, I lived in a small town, one of those you blink and you miss it towns in Minnesota called Breckenridge. If anyone listens from there, hey. This is where the story begins. So in my small town, kids of all ages would hang out together and I was having a Halloween party at my mom's house in second grade. I had a friend who we'll call Casey who was in fifth grade and she had invited a few of her friends over to the party along with a few of my other friends. Man, I felt so cool. And I had a bunk bed. It was one of those with a twin bed on top and a full size futon bottom. We put up blankets and made it super dark, and the older girls wanted to play

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Bloody Mary, the Candyman, the Green Guys, which I've never heard of the Green Guys. Have you?

Yeah, no. I'm going to look that up. Maybe that will be another episode. We can do that. The Green Guys. Things to play at your Halloween party. Yeah. Actually, that's a good one.

I'm saving that. Okay. We would all take turns on getting out, turning the lights on, and it was fun until during one of the chants, I looked over to the opposite side of the bed I was on, and right there standing was the Grim Reaper. He didn't do anything, or say anything. He just stood there. My second grade self was stuck, like super scared. I swear my heart was about to fall out of my chest. I thought everyone could see him, and I didn't understand why nobody was saying anything. And it was my turn to turn on the light, and they kept telling me to go, turn on the light, and I screamed and pointed, "You don't see him?" Everyone stared at me, was like, "What? No." And I even blinked, and he was still there. Like, why was I the only one who could see him? I was done playing the games after that, and I've always felt like someone watching, or

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with me since then. I've also had many close death encounters, and part of me wonders if he's the reason. The odd thing, though, is the stories that I usually find of the Grim Reaper are horrifying. But mine wasn't. It was more of me screaming. He didn't do anything, but just literally stand there. I was the one who freaked myself out.

yeah. It's a terrifying image.

image. So, yeah, don't know what that was about. Thanks for reading. Thanks for being you. I'll see you on the other side, Lex. It's like, was this entity Do we all have our own Grim Reaper in the same way that we have like guardian angels, and this entity was like always there, but showed up in that moment to like warn her? Like, stop messing with this. Maybe. I don't know. Or was it like just weirdly timed, and there was a death, but she didn't realize it? Cuz maybe it was like the goldfish died 5 days later at this house. It's [laughter] like something that you wouldn't necessarily like hear reported.

[gasps]

Oh man, if every goldfish that I ever

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had had a Grim Reaper.

[laughter]

My sad fact is that I didn't know that hermit crabs molted and so I think I threw out threw out a few. Molting hermit crabs. But maybe they found another shell.

RIP Jonas. RIP Maybe they made a shell out of something in the trash. Maybe maybe Maybe I don't know. I don't know. Pets are pets are hard.

Yeah. RIP to all the sea monkeys I ever had. I never had sea monkeys. They don't. Yeah. Don't. It sounds so fun, but when you have to clean the tank, there was like no way for me to not murder a few.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a fish person. Mhm. Like I don't think when I have kids, I don't think I'll get them pet fish. It's so stinky. It is stinky. Mine was kind of like my parents didn't want me to have a pet fish. Mhm. But in the the third grade, there was there was like raffles every year and I won an aquarium in the third grade and then my parents were like, "Well, you can't have a fish." So the aquarium sat in my closet for years. And then when I was in middle school, I

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was at the town like the country town fair or whatever. That's where I always got my fish. I was like, "Well, I have a tank."

Yeah. Town fair is where my fish facility and then when I was in high school shout out Owen who asked me to to a prom when I was a sophomore by putting two fish in my locker Mhm. and a note that said, "Of all the fish in the sea, I chose you. Will you go to prom with me?" And then my cat literally fished one of the fish out of the bowl and ate it.

god.

know what happened to the other one. I'm sure we tried to keep it alive, but yep. Damn. Yeah, cats and fish don't really mash.

No. But anyway

But humans and Grim Reapers do.

[laughter]

many hauntings + husband saw the Grim Reaper

Do you have any more? I do. This is from Maria. My husband and myself have had our own spooky encounters, but at different times in our lives. My husband grew up in Maryland and I grew up in Missouri, and here are just a few of our encounters. When I was a young teenager, I moved in with my dad and stepfamily. The area we lived in was along the Missouri River, and it used to be a

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thriving township. We even have a Civil War era cemetery and an old-timey schoolhouse near us. Oh, that's cool. My friend Sam, who passed away when we were he was a [snorts] freshman and I was in eighth grade. His family lives in an old schoolhouse That is very It was so cool and we would climb up and go into the bell tower.

Yeah, but only like one or two people were allowed in the bell tower at a time because it was like a little bit precarious and we shouldn't have really been up there.

Yeah. But they are very cool. My old theater was a little schoolhouse. Really?

Little red schoolhouse. That is spooky. I feel like that place had to have been super haunted.

sure. Yeah. The area where we live sits on the land where the area hotel had been located. My stepmom told me that the hotel burned down after the owner, in a fit of depression, over the dying town, ended up dying by suicide and set the hotel on fire. Jeez. Oh my gosh.

All of this to preface the experience that we've had. So, now the actual stories. One night, I

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was home alone. I was watching TV and suddenly I felt someone near me. I thought it was my dog until a strand of hair was a lifted above my head and yanked. Ow. I yelped and then I heard a man laughing in a playful way. I screamed "Hello?" Stupid me. And then I hear laughter again. I was so freaked out. I ended up hiding underneath the covers until my dad and my stepmom got home. And then I told them what happened and my stepmom simply said, "Oh, yeah. That's Frank. He's mostly harmless." Okay. Well, after that encounter, I did have a few more pranks played on me, but nothing major. Adding on to that, my stepmom once told me that one time she was dreaming and she dreamt of this woman in Civil War era clothing sitting at the edge of her bed crying. She begged my stepmother to help her cross the road and to be reunited with her husband and child. She said that a witch was holding her captive and wouldn't let her cross. My stepmom woke up crying and noticed that the edge of the bed did have an indentation on it

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like someone had been sitting on her memory foam mattress. Whoa. Aw, that's so sad.

That's so sad. Years later I was driving down my road around 10:00 at night and there's part of the road that diverges off into another road and forms a sort of crossroads. And I saw a young blonde-haired boy in night's clothes playing in the crossroads. I made a note to call the family down the road and tell them that their youngest son was playing outside in the road and I drove past and then as I looked back after I had just passed the boy was not there. He had vanished. I assumed that maybe he was the little boy that was the crying woman from my stepmom's stories' child. Maybe he was hanging out outside near our house in the road. Mhm. Anyway, I used to work at a Subway and I was the regular opener which meant that I was often there in the very early morning hours by myself. One morning I was getting ready to bake bread and I heard a thud. This wasn't overly unusual because we did have a lot

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of product that was stacked in bins and these bins were often overflowing with bags full of pickles and vinegar and all that. So

Yum. I went about [clears throat] my task and then I made my way to the back. Surely enough there was a bag of pickles on the ground. The creepy part was that the pickle bin had not been overflowing. In fact, the bag that fell would have had to have been picked up and tossed to even get where it had landed.

Ghost just wants their pickle. I know. It's delicious. In addition to the pickle bag on the floor, the very heavy freezer door was open. Dummy timidly said, "Hello."

[laughter]

What if feel that's the response to everything? Hello. And I heard a deep voice respond, "Hi there." And then laughter. Give me pickles.

Give me pickle pickle pickle. Pickle.

[laughter]

I was so freaked out to say the least. I almost left, but I also needed the job. So, I told the ghost, "Be chill. Be chill. I'm just trying to do my job." And I hear a cheerful, "Okay."

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And then a sudden absence. That's amazing.

[laughter] [gasps]

I told my boss about this later, and they were like, "Oh, yeah. That's probably the previous owner of the building." She said that he'd been around for a while. He never hurt anyone. It's called Pickle Peter. [laughter] Pickle Peter? Pickle Pete. And luckily, I hadn't encountered him. Wow. But I never encountered him again after that. Be chill. Be chill. Be chill. Be chill. I need this job. Just be chill. Okay.

[laughter]

Okay, so that's it for my stories, but my husband has some stories, and they are way creepier. When my husband was young, about 4 or 5 years old, he was made to attend the funeral of a great uncle. Being younger, he wasn't overly interested in funeral services, so he looked around. In the back in what should have been an empty pew, he saw his great uncle sitting next to a hooded figure with a scythe in his bony hands. The hooded figure raised his skeletal finger to where his mouth would have been and made the motion that you would in shushing

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someone.

[sighs] [gasps]

He told his mother and pointed towards the back, and his mom couldn't see the figure. The figure did the shushing motion again to my husband, and then the figure grabbed the arm of the great uncle, and they both disappeared. He is fairly certain he saw the Grim Reaper that day. That reminds me so much of a book I just read. I made sure I was just looking up the title. It's called Under the Whispering Door by T.J. Klune. Hm. It reminds me so much like that moment specifically. The concept of the book is like someone dies and then is like living in this in between after world and like being ushered in like seeing moments from their life like that. Oh, interesting.

Yeah, it's really cool. Have you read the book If I Stay? I have not.

This feels more If I Stay is more like YA. Yeah, this is more Well, it's pretty sad, but still They made a movie out of that, right? Yeah, I never saw the movie so I don't know how it how accurate it was to the book, but

I do think they're different, but it's

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similar in concept. There's [clears throat] a lot more like characters in the like in between world. And it's exploring that. Like it's like exploring

what the in between world is. I like that.

Yeah, it's really good. Okay. When my husband was about six or seven, he was up later than he should have been and he was playing on his PlayStation in his room. He got an overwhelming sense of dread come over him and out of the corner of his eyes he noticed a shadowy figure. He turned and looked into the hallway and saw that there was a shadow with red eyes. Ew.

He immediately threw the cover over himself and stayed there until he felt the feeling of dread pass and that same figure did visit him again when he was a young teen and he had moved to a different state at this point. This time he asked it to leave and he has not seen it since. I love a ghost that respects boundaries.

Yeah. Keep up the spooky storytelling. Sincerely, Maria. Wow. Damn, we had a lot this episode.

Yes, and that's just what we plucked from the inbox. So Pickle Pete and lots

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of Grim Reaper. Lots of Grim Reaper. But again, like none of them it's the Grim Reaper is a scary sight because death can be death is scary scary. Yeah, like just knowing that there's Cuz we don't know what's on the other side. And also I guess like not knowing how you how someone will die. Yeah. Like in certain situations it might be clear. Right. But if you're just like with your uncle or something or like in your bedroom playing games. Yeah. Or having [clears throat] so many near-death experiences.

your time. That one's still like, I

That one's really scary.

hope everything's okay. Yeah. I think the uncertainty is what's scary. I don't know if death itself is scary. I think we've talked to a lot of people many times. It's very scary. If you believe in reincarnation. Yeah. But yeah. [clears throat] No, like I'm terrified to die, but I'm I'm not terrified, I guess, of the act of dying. I'm terrified of every thing that I leave behind. Yeah. Cuz you have a kid. Especially. Yes. Me and my

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Yeah. It's It's It's so interesting. I was driving in Iceland, like I drove a lot of the trip, and it's like this is scary road. There's like one road, and the weather was so unpredictable. There were parts of the road that were just like they don't plow them. Like it's literally the It was like snow on the road.

Yeah. Um but I was driving and having my sister in the back of the car, who is a mother of two kids, like the entire time I was like, this isn't even about me. Like I need to make like I have precious cargo in my car. Like I don't care if I do, but like she has to live.

That's so funny cuz I was literally just talking with Litha about this, and I was saying how like I've always been a more like cautious and nervous traveler. Yeah. And like you kind of are like, well, I don't care if I die today, whatever. And then I was like, but now like I am not even just keeping myself safe, I'm keeping Noah's mom safe. So it's like I've become like way worse. I'm like a traveler. Yeah. Which is why [laughter] you don't travel. Which so I don't. I stay in my house. Anyway.

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travel without him. If we go, we go together. Yeah, we are on team PR for Grim Reaper. He ain't so bad, but death is scary. Mhm. So if you have any emails about the Grim Reaper or about anything paranormal whatsoever, please email them to us at twogirlsoneghostpodcast@gmail.com. And if you want episodes one week early and ad-free, you can join us over on Patreon. There's also bonus episodes and we have campfire stories every Tuesday where you can join us live to share your ghost story with us and we just we just chat and have lunch and you know, like just hanging out with your spooky friends.

Yes. And there's other things but I'm going to pee my pants. So, thank you to Jamie Ryan for editing and producing this podcast and thank you to all of you. We love you and we will see you on the other side. Very spooky.