Ouija Boards, Aliens & Terrifying Ghost Stories with Special Guest Payne Lindsey (x248)

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very spooky hello hello this is two girls one guy two girls one ghost and we are your ghostesses that's Karen I'm Sabrina and this is an encounters episode where you email us your ghost stories your weird strange things that have happened to you your friends your family the stranger you met on the bus and we read them back to you but I actually have a little bit of a surprise we have a guest today someone to share their story with us live on the podcast that's your cue I couldn't find a clean shirt

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are you guys matching okay this is weird Okay you stole my shirt did you see me get like you're literally wearing the same outfit as me why why are there two of these in this house look even like your yours has a poop stain on it okay well it's yours so you pooped on it this is like a HGTV like renovation Duo dve here I can't believe you guys are just like all right not only are you wearing the same shirt but pain they're both your shirts how stupid do I look you look pretty stupid but I look really great stand alone you guys don't look stupid at all [Laughter] together it's concerning yeah it looks bad I feel like we're just G to end up like the creepy twins from The Shining it's not stupid it's silly and also is that like a Vitamix or something because I 100% thought that that was a ready whip Cool Whip thing and I thought you about to squired it in your mouth and you held it up right before yeah I got to do it every time wait yum that's his weird like thing in a rider where you

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you request ready whip yeah I actually have been requesting whipped cream on my coffee orders yeah just out of nowhere that's a move what do you order for your coffee is it like a cappuccino or is it like a black coffee with whipped cream on it today I got a Moka latte okay so an appropriate drink to have cream on top yes I always switch it up some days I'm like feeling a little fancy yeah I want a little little boost little cream boost cream boost pay are you going tell us one of your own ghost stories or a story that you've collected from the thousands of people you've talked to I mean I have one kind of ghost story but it's going to be too long I'd rather tell it on a longer episode about your neighbor yeah okay so you told us that one on the episode of haunted last year last year there's one story that still freaks me out that I was told from Radio rental that kind of convinced me and my friend Mike that ghosts or something are real so I'll give you like the log line of

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that story that still kind of sticks with me a little bit okay and then you have to go change your clothes okay I'm not wearing the like I mean we should have coordinated better this I know this is embarrassing or or did we do it perfectly this is great that's true this will be the coolest thumbnail ever you didn't do this on purpose we absolutely did it on purpose we did it on purpose for sure oh oh my God fully convinced you guys are good actors together I was like that is weird yeah I sold you take a

Shadow man story

bow okay so you ready ready for it mhm yep okay so the story is called the shadow man and basically there was this guy and I met him in person and he's a super smart guy I think he went to like Harvard or something and has a successful job he's a no [ __ ] guy and he told me the story in person it was back when he was in college he Liv with two other roommates and so like for about a year they kept experiencing weird kind of hauntings in a way they

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like it started off really small where he would see like something in the corner of his eye and then eventually that sort of morphed into one day he saw a man with a top hat just standing in the kitchen kind of like broad daylight and he talked to his other roommates and they had seen the exact same thing and hadn't influenced each other at all and so towards the end of their lease these sort of uh occurrences were ramping up and happening more often and one night which he describes I think he said like this was the night that broke us and I was like okay all right ominous he said that he was in his bed and his door opens and it was really dark and there was like no lights on really in the doorway but maybe like one off in the kitchen so it was kind of almost pitch black yeah and he saw a figure of a person and he assumed that it was this room mate he's like what do you want

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dude like you why you standing there like that and then as his eyes started adjusting he noticed this really big bright white teeth smile that he referenced the closest reference would be the cat from allice in Wonderland that's exactly what I was thinking yeah Chesire Cat and as it got closer which it was moving towards him you know not walking but kind of floating towards him smiling the whole time too yes he realized that all it was was a smile and it was like a black entity like he's like so black it was like tar pit black hole like didn't make sense but it was just a really bright smile and he said that it felt like it knew it was scaring him and it liked it it's probably getting more power from that was it still wearing a top hat or was that just so the the topack guy was I

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mean either unrelated or some other Haunting in there and so like that night it freaked him the hell out and he went and slept in the living room and he said over the course of the next two hours his other roommate came out and so did the next one and they were all sitting there and they said they never even talked until the next day and one of their friends doesn't talk about it at all anymore like it it [ __ ] them up but they all saw the same thing that night and he's convinced that whatever that thing was was almost like the remnants like the remnants of a person like it didn't even know what it was anymore have I ever told you like the theory behind Shadow People and these types of creatures this one might be more of like a I don't know some creepy negative entity but right there's a theory on shadow people that it's like when you pass away there's an aspect of you that kind of like splits off from your soul that is more of like the

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negative Dark Shadow form of your body so like it used to be a part of you yeah but now has like festered and become something darker that kind of is what he felt like it was like like it was confused and trapped and it was mad that it was still in there and he thinks that all the other things that he experienced and he also said that all the time and you hear this a lot in Ghost Stories like it just real palpable feeling of somebody is in this room like like literally but I can't see them just the way he told it I I was convinced and he's no [ __ ] he's like I don't know what it is maybe science explains it one day but I saw this creepy [ __ ] smile and it liked the fact that it was scaring so did all of his roommates also see the smile yes so his roommates like sighting of the smile like an hour later was even arguably scarier he was sitting in his bed and he was looking at his computer chair and all of the sudden it

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slowly turns around and it's just that smile yeah like literally just like that like sounds like the ring or something right that's horrifying oh my God I don't know what that thing was but I don't ever want to see one or become one because it doesn't sound like they're having fun either yeah it was lurking around for a long time too like it I feel like it would be one thing if all the roommates experienced it all at the same time and then they walked out of their rooms and they were like oh but the fact that it was like one by one picking on them yes and it went down the hall like in the order that they came out like his was the very first door the second roommate a little further down the hall came out second and the third one came out last and so I mean you could make the assumption that it was going down the hallway one by one just messing with them what state was this in it was in Michigan I want to say or no okay what state states are which uh

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Minnesota that's that's a state right I think it was in Minnesota yeah when you're talking to these people do they seem scared while they're telling the story the ones who are telling the truth which are most of the people that I've ever met I mean some people have been like are you embellishing that which is like 2% of people I've met they always kind of say the same thing it's almost as if he's reliving some sort of trauma right yeah he is like begrudgingly telling this he's not super thrilled to go revisit this thing that he experienced that he's never really been able to fully settle or wrap his mind around answer and that bothers the hell out of him he's very pragmatic practical smart dude and he doesn't know how to explain it and he knows that some people just don't believe him at all but he knows that something really did literally happen well and it doesn't help that one of the guys won't even talk about it anymore yeah either it broke that guy you remember what episode of radio rental this is on it's called shadowman okay it was a pay wall story though so H sorry to get money so yeah basically this was

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all for five bucks uh this whole thing this whole charade today now we have to put this episode on our patreon so that people can only get it behind the pay wall but it it's also one of our longer stories it's like 23 minutes of this Saga of this dude being haunted by The Smiling shadow man before you go will you give us your creepiest smiling man smile oh my god really is this going on on the internet yeah absolutely I'll do it too you're not even smiling really are you asking me to smile this is about you guys this is about everyone well you know I can't I'm not good at it can you talk through your mouth and not or like through your smile talk through your smile yeah can I talk through my smile am I doing it now I feel like I'm still moving my lips a little I'm talking through my smilei oh I mou it's hard Fant trilo that's like the first step of it and I can't even do that do believe the shadow man we

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believe 100% yeah I grew up with shadow people in my house so 100% were they ever Just Smiles horrifying you see they were big teeth like cartoon in shape and being like surreal but literal teeth like they they looked like a real tooth not like a cartoon tooth like big old chicklets you know this is making me realize out of all the spirits that I've seen in my life I've never seen a ghost smile and I'm not sure I want to anymore yeah you said that you wouldn't want to be this type of spirit if you ever die I would just tormenting people yeah if I die before you I'll show up like that no please don't please don't do that and I'll match every outfit you wear you guys are reminding me of the is it like the little um eggs or something in Shrek what what are what like matching Duo no I need to figure this out I don't know why you guys are reminding me of this but you for some reason remind me

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of Humpty dumped that is really not that nice I could see it though so who looks like this thing us right now I feel like it's the attitude you bring in the outfits that is giving that egg energy yeah are you commenting on pay's really pale skin it's okay I know that I'm basically translucent I'm a damn translucent egg thank you foring thank you love you I love you I love Sabrina me too all right more ghost bye bye want to change my shirt forever I'm putting a oh you're not going to stick with the outfit it washes my skin color out okay what do you think it does to me well same with my gray that I wear every single day bye love you bye nothing like a headlock hug good work all right I feel like because pay just shared a story I feel like I should start yeah

Alien encounters

because the subject line kind of reminds me of pain because pain also has high

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strange the alien UFO investigative podcast okay and this title is called the government is late to the party acknowledging that aliens are real they are late to the party we all know yeah we've known that for a long time yeah two scratch up three alien visits I love the beginning of this I love it the first was very quick and still questionable visit from our friends in space considering that at the time I lived in the very populated suburb of Washington DC which is why I may question it today I was driving home from some kind of sporting event at my high school and the road I took was a neighborhood Road maybe only 9 or 9:30 at night at this point and the view of the sky is pretty obstructed by trees but there is a slight opening where I could see the sky and I noticed two brighter than usual Stars side by side odd I thought I proceeded to drive and I kept my eye up in that direction

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and in the next opening one of those lights beams to the right I'm still driving and the second light now darts to the left I'm not sure of many stars that are that bright side by side that can also move but who knows I was near the government protected places so it could have been something else entirely interesting or not or not a followup to The Story Goes alongside another experience that I had but in an entirely different area all the way in rural dirt road middle of nowhere Georgia and they say the peace level is 10 out of 10 here I imagine similar to that previous story I was in bed around 10: or 11: at night and I was shuffling to try to get to sleep I rolled over on my side and I faced the window and the moon and a star in the distance was beckoning sleep to override me but the sky got weird again on me out of nowhere I started looking out at the moon and its star friend and not even an instant later I blinked and the star was gone as if sleep wasn't going to happen at

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this point I got up and I looked at the sky and this time though I had an accountability buddy my boyfriend still awake also saw the exact same thing I did the star that was next to the moon at one moment is not next to it in the next oh my gosh are we maybe thinking aliens at this point absolutely I've been thinking it since the beginning right like literally from the first word yeah it's usually how we begin from the subject line we were like yeah aliens aliens the last story is my favorite to remember it ends well it's spooky AF it's very paranormal and In the Heat of the Moment of all of it I don't think that I could have reacted better to my instincts this happened in another place I lived on the mainland of a Beach town near a marsh and it was a medium-sized neighborhood off an older quieter Road nothing but the marsh and woods surrounding the neighborhood as a whole again I'm not expecting anything like what happened to happen in an area like that except the UN expected

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ghostesses I was in bed I was minding my own business doing what people do at night in the middle of the week I was sleeping and from what I can recall I was deep in sleep I awoke from my Slumber overcome with the alertness I was Wide Awake My Brain finally caught up to the rest of my surroundings and I looked towards the window of my room and I realized it was probably in the middle of the night and that yeah I needed to go back to sleep I just started to readjust my pillows my blankets and while I was adjusting I heard what sounded like a street sweeper it moved slowly with very bright lights down the street in the direction of my house I could hear the trees rustling from the Gusty winds I come from City area and that doesn't seem that odd for a street sweeper to be out right now but no cars park on the side of the road on both sides there aren't any signs that this neighborhood is about to get street sweeping and why would it make a tree rustle so much it just can't be that in this moment of almost catching up and questioning what it could be I stopped I

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had an overwhelming sense of wanting to go look out the window at what this thing might be see where the sound of the wind and where the lights came from but then in a split second a gut feeling told me I needed to stay in bed I should not get up to not move to not look in the corner of the room so I stayed absolutely still staring up at the ceiling even with the urge of something else telling me to go look into the shadowed corner and to look outside to see why are there like two instincts like fighting there's like ding oh it's scary the overbearingly bright light the feeling brighter than day now right outside of my window then as if the sheer panic and the scared feeling were too overwhelming I just fell asleep and that was that I didn't have any history at this point of sleepwalking or sleep paralysis nor did I know what those things even were plus I was able to move before whatever it was got close and now knowing what sleepwalking and sleep

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paralysis is like I know it was neither it also piques my curiosity that no one in the house woke up or knew what I was talking about and those are my UFO and alien nonsensical experiences and this is from T well T I think it's fair to say that like all alien encounters are pretty nonsensical because we don't know how to like really fully understand it yeah but the amount of different and various encounters T has had makes me think that aliens have te on like a radar because it almost seems like te has the aliens on a radar like to know when to look at a certain star and then that star disappear right well I guess it's like there's only one scenario where that happened where it was like where te and their boyfriend were in bed and then like both noticed the Moon Star buddy leaving I guess the other one like T's Driving or T's woken up in the middle of the night and there's like loud noises and all of this if I could play devil's advocate for one second for the very final story okay I do Wonder because this

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happens at my grandparents house cuz they live near like the marshes and the Sea Coast of New Hampshire and it's very very buggy yeah so at night there will be every once in a while it's not like a street sweeping car but it basically almost looks like a like a dumpster truck oh and it comes through and it sprays like chemicals to try to kill the mosquitoes into the air late at night when people aren't outside side to try to mitigate the like extreme problem they have that's kind of scary to know that they spray yeah it's happened for decades how dangerous is that job how much are you inhaling of that oh my God I know like I can remember it happening when I was really young visiting my grandparents and it's like this low Rumble of the truck the lights are on cuz they're driving and they're going slowly and it's like a as they're spraying that's the only thing that I'm like it could have been that because they were by a marshy area

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so maybe or t was abducted by aliens The Others I have no explanation for and I also can't explain the weird like back and forth feelings that t was getting while that was happening either and then just waking up the next morning like I feel like there's like lost time kind of too H okay well aliens are real we never have answers and Aliens we do know aliens are real but we don't really understand where they're from who they are what they want that's what we don't know they're alien to us and they remain that way that's why they're aliens cuz we don't know much about them okay this is from our listener Savannah and it is called a Ouija board and a demon

Ouija board incident

Yeet also I'm really excited for the story that I have at the end of this episode because it's heartwarming but it's also like oh my other dream aside from being abducted by an alien is what my last story is okay okay hello K and Sabrina my name is Savannah thank you so much for creating a safe and spooky loving environment for all of us spooky ghouls who are fascinated by the Paranormal feel free to use all the names in this

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story they have been changed except for mine before I start it is important to know some backstory about me and Karen's home I've always been fascinated by the Paranormal and I would consider myself Clairvoyant I would see tall shadow figures to having premonition dreams and I grew up in a Hindu household with my grandparents and my biological parents as Christians so way before this incident took place my friend at the time Karen who were no longer friends Ken moved into a rather creepy double wide trailer in the middle of the appalachin mountains perfect setting this was not too far from my childh at home the day she and her parents started moving all of their possessions into the home Karen and I decided to go outside and explore what we found in the backyard was rather disturbing to say the least we found a very old Lecter which is that Stan you'll see Bible standing on in Christian churches this Lecter was covered in some weird black tar-like substance we both knew instinctively not

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to touch it next to this Lecter were some old and very eroded stone statues of what looked to be Angels but we're not really sure we were kind of creeped out by this and ignored the feelings because we were kids and about 100 ft from this lectern was a large black tarp that was covering a hole how do you know I may ask well I fell into the hole we were running around and suddenly I tripped on the corner of the tarp and fell right on top of it to this day I have no idea what was in this hole nor do I ever want to find out this Lecter with this creepy suspicious substance the statues in this hole with a tarp I immediately thought rituals and dead bodies yeah what did it smell like I curious can't imagine good right yeah H I stepped foot in this house and it felt very off the air was thick it was hard to breathe it felt like you were drowning and that there were eyes all over you and the energy in that house

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felt very masculine to a point where every time I stayed there I would greet whoever was there with something along the lines of hello sir it is my pleasure to have the opportunity to come by today you have such a lovely home you got to do what you got to do to try to appease the spirits appease the spirits better safe than sorry I always tried to be polite and very formal whenever I felt him around I'm not really sure why but it felt like he was from a more formal time period plus he scared me so I was trying to make amends with ghost man so I wouldn't get possessed but now let's go into the demons back to the summer of 2016 in North Georgia appalachin Mountains yeeha summer break had just started and Karen and I couldn't have been more excited summer break for us 15-year-olds meant that I could stay at her house all summer go to summer break parties do illegal activities that 15-year-olds shouldn't do which you guys makes us sound like convicts but we just smoked weed and dabbled with a little bit of drugs no judgment it was a hard life back then so 2016 was her sweet 16

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and her golden birthday so we were Beyond ecstatic the night of her birthday it was me and about 16 others and I'm only going to name two of the others because the other ones aren't really relevant to the story so the main ones are myself Karen who's the birthday girl Sally and Cecilia we did typical 15-year-old crap talked about boys our crushes smoked some Devil's lettuce and it was around 11:00 p.m. When Sally randomly pulled out an old Ouija board naturally me being the spooky [ __ ] that I am was like hell yeah let's use it so only Sally and I used it I wanted to get in touch with my grandfather who had passed away one month prior he was my rock my best friend my everything and he was the one who had helped me with the spiritual aspect of my life and taught me about crystals and we would have early morning and night meditation sessions where we would focus on opening up our chakras well what we got with the Ouija board was very different for the first 20-ish minutes it was very underwhelming nothing happened and Sally and I both were getting disappointed all

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of a sudden the planchette started to move I got frustrated with Sally thinking she was moving it and when she said I'm not the planchet shot across the board so fast and violently and when I say violent I mean violent it ripped itself out from under her fingers and the planette was hot to the touch oh god oh see if this ever happened to me I would never i' never ever play again like swore off of everything par normal I agree so scary I refuse to take my hands off of it for a number of reasons but I had questions number one you aren't supposed to take your hands off without saying goodbye number two why was it so violent number three why was the planchet feeling so hot it was like it was on fire number four who and what was coming through so now you're probably thinking why you keep your fingers on a planet that feel like it's on fire but let's just say I was really good at disassociating and I was also scared that if I did take my fingers off didn't close out properly it would attach itself to me which snaps Sav

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Savannah snaps because following the rules that's the rule yeah yeah so the planet starts going back and forth to random letters and at first we thought it was gibberish and then Karen pointed out it was Latin I guess she was taking Latin in school I asked what is your name and it responded with o r c u s orcus I asked what do you want it responded with Karen and her grandmother's name after that Karen started to panic and ran into the bathroom me being the good friend I am said goodbye closed out the session on the Ouija board and chased after her 15 minutes later she felt a burning on her back so I looked and saw three bloody scratch marks down Karen's back I was a tad bit skeptical because she had just gone to the bathroom by herself for a while yeah and Celia and I went into the bathroom to try to recreate the scratch marks with everything sharp that was in there even with our own hands and nothing matched also the scratches were on a particular

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part of her back that was really hard to reach on your own it's almost like the entity wanted to do it specifically like that like hard enough and in a weird to reach area where it's like you know you know if you're trying to test out if this is real or fake it's really hard to disprove and here's where Savannah 15-year-old savan comes through so needless to say we were spooked but I wanted to continue I don't know why but I was so strongly fascinated by whoever had just contacted us and I wanted to know why why did it say Karen and her grandmother who is orcus I needed to know so we calmed Sally down and I tried to contact orcus again and I succeeded I asked what are you and it said two words God and underworld it was in that moment that I was like uhoh Savannah you screwed up and after those two words I immediately felt the ghost man's presence and I knew knew he was mad I mean I would be too some idiotic

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15-year-olds contacting the god of the underworld now when I say mad I more mean the fact that orcus was there and not so much at all of us together he kind of felt productive but it felt like there was a shielding from something more demonic so I immediately said goodbye I went to the bathroom and when I came back you guys would not believe what I saw stupid Karen and stupid Sally burning the Ouija board I got so Furious because I was like you never ever burn a Ouija board so my bad [ __ ] witch comes out and I immediately start doing my thing I grabbed Ken's crystals moonwater incense and I recited a few prayers we all stayed up a few more hours and then went to bed it was Karen and I sleeping in the living room on the couch and I remember waking up looking at the clock at 3:33 a.m. that was enough to freak me out on my own so I woke Karen up because sorry girl I am not going to be the only one awake at 3:33 a.m. you're going to experience this with me she was annoyed of course so I said the same thing to her we sat up on the couch and looked

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down the hallway and you guys we see what to this day still haunts me and warning this does get very emotional we see a woman now this woman was not with us at the party nor was it Karen's mom my first thought was [ __ ] did someone break in but the closer we looked at her we realized she was not alive her ball joints such as her kneecaps and elbows were backwards which caused her feet and arms to go backwards but her head was normal along with her torso ew ew ew ew oh my God it's so gross she was partly transparent with her hair down to her hips a white dress and the worst part of all of this you guys she was twitching like whole body twitching including her heart which you could see rapidly beating through her torso this feels so [ __ ] up to reference a cord of thorns and Roses this kind of feels like an amarantha move it's horrifying yeah like a torture

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situation Karen and I were completely mortified Karen and her dumbass decided to yell leave which made this scary demon twitching lady Sprint towards us and I mean at an unnatural Speed without hesitation so I stood up I grabbed a Bible which was on the nearby nightstand and I screamed the Archangel Michael protection prayer and once she was right in front of me she let out this blood curdling scream and then poof she vanished everyone in the house heard the commotion and woke up from it and they came running as for the ghost man I actually felt him in that moment come behind me and touch my back and the words you're strong and I'm proud came into my mind oh my God I'm glad he's helping in that moment he felt way less hostile than he ever had before so in the end the ghost man wasn't really aggressive towards me anymore and maybe I sent the demon back to Hell which is

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pretty freaking rad in my opinion also in my opinion I would say never use a Ouija board but if you do please don't be as stupid as us 15-year-olds as for Karen Sally and Cecilia we are no longer friends our friendship was strained and Karen started to be way more hostile towards me and I was stuck in a pretty abusive and manipulative relationship with her for far too long after that incident my life went into shambles and I'm pretty positive orcus has had something to do with it both my mom and my psychiatrist and I thought I had schizophrenia considering at night I swore I could hear people talking I would hear footsteps coming to my room and I would see tall Shadows but after a while it just randomly stopped and I don't have schizophrenia occasionally I still see shadows and I can kind of see and feel if something's off thanks for taking the time to read my story I will see you on the other side sincerely Savannah I mean that is such an unfortunate Ouiji board experience it's

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both incredible because Savannah now gets to tell the story right right but like right like glad we have this to experience it in its full extent too because it's it's beyond the board it's like moving into dreams it's potentially affecting people for years like Savannah was still exposed to like these voices and different paranormal activity for a long time so much so that she thought maybe she had a mental illness I mean I am glad that she was like getting that checked out because you know there are possibilities of that but like how isolating and terrifying to feel like you're experiencing this and it's so real for you but no one else is experiencing it wait so is this the story that you said you wanted so badly to experience for yourself no no no the story I have to end on oh okay I was like I'm like literally joking on my own saliva I would never want to experience this truly no never you kind of did with

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like the man charging at you but yeah but I didn't have a planet on a Ouija board ripped out of my hands moving across board yeah that's that's no that's for scary movies that's not for real life no thank you it's almost like the god of the underworld sent out like a underling to do their dirty work and that was the the woman with the backwards joints and stuff ah so gross so gross the one positive is that whatever Mass aggressive energy that was at Karen's house that Savannah had always like gone out of her way to say hello to showed up in a really [ __ ] positive good way when needed and Savannah seems pretty prepared given all the different scenarios and situations that were thrown at her you know watching the Ouija board burn Savannah's got a kit she's got some supplies she's ready to go she's trying to reverse what's being done yeah agre so I do appreciate that because without that like how much more yeah we don't ter would the situation be

Military hauntings

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yeah my last email that I will share is from our listener John hey guys love the podcast keep up the good work I'm a retired Air Force veteran and from 1989 to 1992 my first Duty station was the 1957 Communications Group hickham Air Force Base in Hawaii hickham Air Force Base and Pearl Harbor are right next to each other the porter gate actually passes from Pearl Harbor to Hickman and vice versa and both both were bombed by the Japanese on December 7th 1941 at one point while I was there I was waiting for my security clearance to be upgraded for a new job because I couldn't go to work until I had my new clearance I was working mid shift at the job control work center job control is the work center where units will call in Communications about maintenance requests to get equipment repaired job control was located on the third floor the l-wing of Pacific Air Force Headquarters and my shift started around 20 2300 so 11 p.m. okay and it ended the

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next day at 700 a.m. the graveyard shift you get to see midnight and 3:00 a.m. oh also the other day Ryan was like I keep waking up at 3:00 a.m. it's so weird like I hate just waking up in the middle of the night and it's always at 3:00 a.m. and I was like that is odd it does happen to a lot of people around that time perhaps it's just cuz it's in the middle of the night I didn't have the heart to tell him the Paranormal side the the story so pure I know he was just like oh always at 3:00 a.m. and I was like yeah weird at 3:00 a.m. that is strange Brian who's calling you what does he think of all the ghostly things that have happened in your house I don't share anything with him because he gets scared he didn't want him to be scared what do you think about the when the alarm went off though and then the uh curtain rods fell oh I very much was like this is a ghost and he he just like looks at me and just goes and walks

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away it's like a panic but a little bit of a smile and a I don't want to engage with this conversation moving on yeah so funny if anything happens and it like truly Spooks him into admitting the Paranormal is around us I'm G to have to deal with it he won't be he will kill the insects I will manage Spirits it's a great partnership you have over there mhm both appear just as frequently as the other so true in your life especially okay while I'm at work I am in an enclosed room with Cipher locked doors after hours no one can enter the room unless they call me and I Buzz them in a typical night is fairly busy until around midnight and once I get the job control board updated it gets pretty dead pun intended the layout of the room is as follows the desk was L-shaped and it sat against the north and west walls of the room the door to enter the room was on the East wall the computer we used to type up maintenance request was on the desk facing the north wall and facing the computer above the desk on

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the West Wall was a television that we used to pass the time when it was quiet when you were facing the television the entrance to the room is directly behind you I'm already picturing some weird shadows in the screen of the television I think it was my second night on mids alone I had just finished updating the job control board and I turned to face the television to see if there was something interesting to watch I flipped through some of the channels and settled down to watch then I felt it you know that feeling you get when someone is watching something over your shoulder yep I got that and it was coming from directly behind me in the direction where the door was so I sat there for a minute and I didn't turn around my logical brain was telling me that it was impossible for anyone to be in this room with me because I hadn't let anyone in but the hair on the back of my neck was screaming at me to turn around because there was someone behind me I turned around and nothing was there I found something to do for the rest of the night to just keep me occupied the

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next night after I got my work done I had the same experience I get settled down to watch television and a strong sense that someone is standing behind me watching television too they just like whatever you're watching that's exciting they're ready for the entertainment when it happened the third night I had had enough I turned around to face it and I said damn it if you're going to watch television just don't do it while you're standing right behind me and it went away that's a good point it's like you could choose somewhere that's not breathing down the other person's neck in a big room exactly I didn't sense anything for the next few days I just watched television until the end of my shift as if it had never happened several days later I get through my usual work I find something on television and I feel it again but it isn't directly behind me I sense it's coming from my left where the other desk was I don't know why but for some reason I didn't have a problem with that for for the next few months while I worked there it happened every night but

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never again from behind me always off to the left at that other desk but that's so sweet I know it was like a very like I am learning thank you you can tell me and I will take note right because before like maybe it just didn't realize whoever this was didn't realize that you couldn't see them and didn't want to Spook you in case you could so it was like well I'll just stand right behind we're like they're never going to see me right not realizing that you can also sense that that's sweet okay later in my career when I was stationed at Randolph Air Force Base in Texas I was a security forces augmente for the base for two years so I was a cop and I experienced a number of unexplained encounters when I was on patrol I'm sure the most memorable event was witnessed by myself and a couple dozen other members of the security forces Squadron it was late at night and the resource protection section had initiated a resource protection exercise there are a number of facilities on that base that are considered priority resources once a quarter the resource protection section will initiate a non-nonsense exercise to

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evaluate flights on their procedures this particular exercise involved one of the headquarters buildings on that base that used to be an old base Hospital the first thing that has to happen when securing a scene is that you have to get a 360° observation of the scene for a typical Square building this means that you would need to post someone on the two diagonal corners of the building and this particular building was not square and it required four units to acquire a three 360° observation so my partner and I were the fifth unit on the scene which meant that we were the unit assigned to perform the walk around of the business we pulled our M16s and our flashlights and we started to walk around the building checking to see if there are any open doors and looking through Windows to verify that yeah there's no one inside the building I come around one corner and I'm looking through a window on the front of the building that is directly opposite the exit door at the back of the building as I'm scanning the interior of the building through the window I see a large Shadow pass between

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me and the exit sign over the rear exit door uh my partner who's performing the walk around with me also saw the shadow I keyed my radio Randolph this is 420 I have observed movement within the building I should note now that everyone involved at this point is aware that this is an exercise another voice comes over the radio Randolph this is resource protection terminate exercise we do not have anyone inside the building resource prot section on the radio is a master sergeant running the exercise and he's basically saying this is no longer an exercise we have a realworld situation it's so scary that it's like the spirit is almost like knows that they can make it scarier like this is supposed to be an exercise and the go like well actually what if it's real so attitudes have shifted to a more serious posture we call out the building custodian to bring us a key and additional security Force members so that we can clear the building in the meantime myself and my

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partner are posted up at the front window to maintain visibility inside the building while we were waiting for the key we observed the shadow moving around inside the building at least three times I say at least three because there were a couple of cases where I saw something and she didn't and then she would see something and then I didn't interesting the custodian arrives with the keys and we moved to the rear door to clear the building we spent almost an hour clearing the building and we didn't find anything when we exited the building we noticed the flight Sergeant standing away from the building under a tree didn't find anything did you he says no nothing inside the building I said he knew this isn't the first time I've seen this happen I've gotten to the point where I won't even go in that building anymore if I can get away with it he says especially if it's in the basement where the morg used to be uh everything got filed in our nightly police blotter by the desk and apparent it wasn't an unusual occurrence for that building or

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for that base in general I was listening to your episode on Mothman and you mentioned the grinning man I feel like this just goes back to pain story too where it's just like the Cheshire Cat but you mentioned the grinning man he has a name injured cold which you covered we just did a whole episode on yeah yep most of what is known about injured cold comes from a UFO encounter just outside of parksburg West Virginia about 60 Mi Northeast east of Point Pleasant West Virginia relayed by a man named woodro Woody Darren Burger about 12 days before his first Moth Man sighting Darren Burger described injured cold as about 6 feet tall 185 lbs with dark slick packed hair he was wearing a black trench coat and he had a beaming smile during this encounter Darren Burger met a man in Black that had a beaming smile constant grin on his face and this man said that his name was injured cold he asked Darren Burger a number of questions about himself and parkerburg West Virginia which could be seen in the distance if you want more of this in case you didn't know episode 262

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we did like a whole thing on like woodro Daren bger encounters and inred cold and it's so fascinating because you also talk about the planet that inred said he comes Lanos Lanos Lanos Lanos yeah it's super interesting so definitely listen to that episode it was a good a good one the unnerving part was the fact that even though Darren Burger could hear what cold was saying to him the man's mouth never moved I just recently heard your episode with a story about the haunted train tracks in San Antonio and I've lived there for 12 years and I have been on those tracks more times that I can count on Halloween in the area cars get backed up for miles waiting to get their chance to be pushed off of these tracks oh my God that is so cool I can confirm from personal experiences that the road that crosses the tracks runs downhill and gravity is probably what is moving these cars across the tracks I personally have used a Carpenters level to verify that the road does run

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downhill I love that like you just bring like a level you're like the Bub's tilted steud y the bub yeah thanks for the podcast John John you have worked at a couple very haunted places it does okay like I know this is like a scary situation to be going through when you're like doing a drill exercise to like make sure a space is cleared and then a ghost pops up but I also like to imagine that the ghost is like well if you're going to do an exercise why don't I help you make it feel more real and that's exactly what the spirit did again I love hearing about like Air Force bases and military bases being haunted because these are people that are going into situations where they it requires so much bravery and yet there's so much fear of ghosts on these bases it's so funny but it's also like just proof in the Paranormal too where like they have a ton of resources to be able to investigate these things yeah and the

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sergeants like the people that are heading the bases are like yeah it's a ghost this place is haunted we've all experienced it I'm so excited I don't know when exactly I'm going to do this but the rendles shim UFO incident I started doing research on and it's very similar it's like a military base this wild UFO encounter happens and there's so much evidence oh my gosh I can't wait to hear about it oh it's such a crazy story but I'm going to end on this fun

Psychic medium encounter

story this is something I've said many times I would love to happen to me it is called psychic medium approached me at dinner oh this is something I also want but you always talk about this yeah this is from our listener Jess and I want to say that trigger warning it is a bit heartbreaking and sad and it involves loss but it's also a very beautiful heartwarming story hi Ghouls and kitty my name is Jess I have been a fan since the junior year of my high school which was 2019 you guys got me through covid

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and many road trips so thank you I have a couple of different stories I'd like to share with you but the story I want to share now happened a few weeks ago content warning mention of suicide and drug overdose I am the middle child and have an older brother 6 years older than me an older sister 3 years older than me and a younger sister who's just 2 years younger than me plus my bonus step brother who's the youngest in three years younger than my little sister which I think means 5 years younger than Jess for some backstory my dad had died by Suicide when I was just 6 years old I was six so my mom never told me that he had taken his own life just that he had passed away when I was around 9 years old I had the feeling that I needed to ask my mom if he had taken his own life I was young but I was not dumb she looked at me in shock and said who told you we immediately drove to my mom's best friend's house to talk to my sister and I about what happened with my dad

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she was practically my father figure growing up because she was always the other figure and other parent in our lives that we looked up to she loved the role and she had even gone as far as taping her boobs back and drawing chest hair and leg hair on and shoved her afro into a ball cap to take me to a daddy daughter hike with a youth group that I was in oh my god oh that's so sweet I loved her so much and I'm so grateful to have her in my life but anyway back to my story so I went with my older sister and a friend for a little girl's night out and my sister has a severe nut allergy and due to some pretty bad postpartum depression and OCD she really hates trying new places so we were deciding between these two places that my sister liked and once we got on the road we passed a restaurant my sister mentioned that place is cute maybe we should try it out so I was like that is so weird and so unlike you but sure so we did we went inside the restaurant and

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in the 22 years that I've known my sister she has never asked this question before she asked the hostess if they had bar seating and we were told that there was an open bar upstairs so we went around and we scouted out and there was one table open we took the spot and had the best food ever and some amazing drinks during our meal we kept seeing this one server who was clearly not serving in our area but kept coming over and she kept making eye contact with us and there was just like a weird tension between us and I kept noting it being like what is going on we finished our meal and this lady comes to our table she pulled up a chair next to my sister and said hi I know this is very weird I am a psychic medium and I'm so drawn to your table especially to you my eyes widened as I looked at the stranger who somehow felt familiar talking to my sister she asked if she could come sit next to us after she cleared some dishes

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and connect with whoever it was that was clearly trying to communicate with us obviously we said yes so a few minutes later she came and sat down with us she asked for my sister's name and date of birth she wrote down the information and started tapping her fingers and circling her pen on the page she was channeling right in front of us I could have died so she starts asking my sister if she had a friend who recently passed my sister thought for a moment but I immediately started thinking about her friend from high school who had really sadly unfortunately just recently passed of a fetanyl overdose the medium asked if there was a bracelet or anything that was connected to this friend and she shook her head no my sister was giving this lady nothing to go off of at this point I'm a little skeptical of the entire situation though I'm stoked that it's happening but I've never experienced anything like this and having listened to your podcast for so many years now I know it's possible and it does happen and I had always wanted to go to a psychic for the longest time but always stopped myself because I

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would get nervous and I was nervous that they would look up information find about my dad passing and kind of use that for those readings because you literally could find my blood type on my mom's Facebook that's how much she shares the psychic's demeanor changes and she asks my sister if her father is still with her and I kind of like to think that my dad shoved his way past everyone else trying to come through and was like mm- I want to make myself known my sister shakes her head know and looks over to me the medium asks for my dad's date of birth and name and starts to write his date of birth in my sister's shock State she struggled to remember the year of my dad's birthday and I turned my head and showed the tattoo with the year of my dad's birthday the medium thanks me and asks if I'm a sister I nod yes and she starts to tell us things to describe my dad to a te that he's Burly strong tall very funny and she asked my sister if she had a jewelry box that my dad had given her she shook her head yes and she looked at my sister and said he wants you to know

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that the jewelry box is from him does this make sense my sister stared at me dumbfounded and said yes I had no idea what she was talking about but I found out after we left the restaurant that my mom had actually gone to my sister's house that week prior and my sister pulled out a jewelry box that my dad had given her before he passed she showed it to my mom and said something along the lines of being grateful that my dad had left it for her and my mom who is an extreme narcissist said your dad didn't get that for you I got that for you and probably put your dad's name on it and then gave it to you well apparently our dad did give it to her and he wanted to reiterate that through the psychic oh I see I love that so much that he's like just going mean yeah this is going to mean so much to her and I'm not going to let this be taken from her she has to know it is from me yeah she mentioned us living in my dad's best friend's house and brought up his friend's obsession with Harley-Davidson she asked us if we had

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any idea what the significance was of a pearl and she kept clasping her hands together and said that our dad kept showing her the importance of this Pearl and that he was protecting it my sister said that she had just had a daughter and the birthstone of my sister's daughter is a pearl it's just so beautiful like there's so many signs that are so specific to what's happening to them right then the medium told us that our dad wanted us to know that he's protecting her like a clam protects the Pearl and that he was also signifying that he protects us kids the way that my sister's jewelry box protects her jewelry she told us our dad was saying something about our whole family being sad that he's not able to meet the baby hold her and get to experience her but then she said that he was puffing out his chest saying to hell I didn't I actually was the first to hold these babies acknowledging that in the other side he was holding these babies and it also acknowledged my sister had several miscarriages before the daughter that she had had and so we like to believe

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that our dad had been holding these babies on the other side oh my gosh she then asked if my dad had a cough my sister and I looked at each other and we were like no and at this point I was kind of let down just wondering if she was using our body language and stuff to get answers from us but she kept asking questions regarding a cough such as if he smoked or had lung problems Etc the psychic truly was having a physical reaction to it and she started coughing and she couldn't stop for like a solid minute or two and then she was likeold on how did your dad die and this is trigger warning for how it happened but my dad had driven to our cabin turned on the truck four-wheeler and laid down and died of carbon monoxide poisoning and affixiated to death the cough my dad was showing her how he had died oh my God she told us that my dad regretted it and it was too late and he really felt like we both needed to hear this that he was so sad and always regretted his decision but the psychic told us that he wants us

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to know that it's not worth it life is so worth living and he wishes he could undo the decision and he saw the ripple effect that his death caused and how it affect all of us I asked her if street lights going out were my dad showing that he was there watching me and she said yes some spirits on the other side are able to present themselves using electricity and if we see something over and over again and connect it with that loved one it's probably them presenting themselves to us as she was explaining that she said oh my gosh and the lights flashed and she got a message from my dad saying it's me it's me tell her it's me oh the lights like literally in this restaurant started to flash yeah this is such a powerful oh my gosh just even the fact that her sister initially was like let's try a new restaurant and let's go upstairs and that's exactly what she's about to say yeah to gain access to this medium it's like their dad was shoving them towards her yeah she said I don't think this was a coincidence that it

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happened to us despite all of my sister's things that she was going through to decide hey that place looks cute let's go over there sit in a bar area which we never ever did and meet a psychic medium who let us talk to our dad I mean I always assumed I would never get closure about my father's death but this helped me be more at peace with it thank you for having a safe environment for people to share their stories I am beyond grateful to have found your podcast and we definitely send in more stories keep up the y oiness Jess wow it's so beautiful and I'm just so glad that they had as much time as they did to communicate with their dad you know because like this person's this medium didn't like maybe she could have thought like oh my God I'm getting this overwhelming sense but like this isn't the day for me to communicate or she could have been like you know what like I'm here with my family or my friends or whatever like I just have like a minute but she sat there and took the time and was like no this reading has to happen it's really specific even if you're saying no to these she works there oh oh I didn't

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realize that I thought it was just like another Patron no she works there which now I'm like I want to know the name of this restaurant and find this woman and like Jess did you get her information have you gone back there since I would be like I'm going back 100% but it is just so incredible too that makes me believe so much more in people who have those abilities to connect with the dead when you're being like no that means nothing to me what you're saying and they're like okay but it means something to them and they like have to work it out and figure it out yeah it's not just like a throwaway sort of answer oh my gosh and the music or the jewelry box is from him it's from him dang I'm sorry for your lost dress that's really really hard but I do love that he was able to come through in this way and that it gave you a little bit more closure especially so many years later and that you know that he's watching over you and that anytime a light flickers and like the lights on the street go out it's him he's with you like I think that's so special and he came through in a way that is so cool it's like a way that

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everyone wishes that could happen you know you got like one of the coolest experiences seriously oh my gosh wow well thank you everyone for joining us if you have any ghostly paranormal experiences please email them to us at two girl1 ghost podcast gmail.com and uh if you would like episodes one week early and AD free join us on patreon we also have bonus episodes every single month and campfire stories every Tuesday night and this comes I think this episode comes out in September so if you've been with us on campfire stories and on patreon you've seen that we have some special guests Payne is also joining us on campfire stories over the summer while Ken is on maternity leave but Ken you'll be back from maternity leave like very shortly after this episode comes out I got a kick Humpty Dumpty off of his comfortable Campfire Story seat yes Humpty Dumpty you two together were giving Humpty Dumpty Vibes I'm probably so wrong if I rewatch I'm probably going to be like you guys weren't doing that at all but it's what came to you and I I

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appreciate it yeah I take it as a compliment R and view us on iTunes tell people about us happy almost spooky season well it basically already is spooky season it is happy almost October we love you all and thank you so much to our editor and producer Jamie Ryan who edits our audio and video that you watch and listen to we're grateful for you thank you and we will see you on the other side very spy