Floating Heads & Blood Oozing From Walls | The Terrifying San Pedro Poltergeist Pt. One (Ep 306)

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this is part one of the San Pedro Poltergeist I'm so scared and I don't even know why it is the story of a vengeful entity who physically attacked attempted to kill and was relentless in its efforts to haunt not just one person but many and it turned into a yearslong haunting that followed multiple people hundreds of miles from home to home turned into one of the most volatile and terrifying hauntings that was a matter of life or death very spooky

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hey hey what's up everyone hey hello this is two girls one ghost two girls one ghost and we are your ghostesses that's Karen hello I'm Sabrina and we have a lot to talk about what what where do we start do we start with my functional freeze my paranormal investigation my haircut no Fatu or Bumblebee F which one do you want to start with oh [ __ ] oh my God you have so many um we'll do paranal first because this is a paranormal podcast okay to not scare everyone off this is a paranormal podcast and we also throw in some of our own personal live encounters that are not paranormal like a week ago from when this episode comes out on patreon I did a live stream on YouTube which you can rewatch also I'm dad today hello although I feel more baby we need to get a mug that says baby that says baby so how many items did you have cuz you collected them in Salem right yes so

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I went to the Salem flea market and I decided to use Daniel my pendulum MH and ghost tube to do a little investigation I had multiple items nothing had any activity but the entire time well something did but leading up in the beginning everything was fine okay and I had sent this picture to you I had found an atome electroshock machine that was from like the late 1800s to early 1900s and I don't remember all the specifics but this machine it's in this like box it's very innocuous looking unless you open it up and you see everything inside of it it's not like fully together where you could hook it up and use it now right there are some pieces missing and I would never try I wouldn't actually would I might I mean who knows no use use modern day I took scissors to my hair the other day is that how you got this haircut no no

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no I got I was like [ __ ] this we youing a haircut right now you're giving me the same exact cut no I went professionally to get a it done and then I was like it

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looks good but there I wanted more py in the front so I took scissors to my hair and we have learned but apparently I didn't listen to things that I've learned do not pair depression and scissors and hair oh I feel like that's the CL but it's a you're supposed to do it anyway yeah you're not supposed to do it but everyone to a little bit which piece which can you even there's I've I think I hit it but like there's a chunk over here that I oh I was like you just got to stop no I like this haircut a lot anyway back to the investigation investigation the electroshock at home machine so it was sitting behind me kind of the whole time and it was the one object that I was like if anything's haunted it's probably this sure enough the entire live stream everyone was like I'm getting weird vibes from that thing and I also didn't tell anyone what it was it was still in the box yeah cuz it's it's like a thick box and it's probably like this big and it has a latch on the top and then a latch on the bottom the top opens up and you can see

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like that's where some of the things are stored and the instructions are and the bottom latch is open and the battery is down there but basically some wild stuff happened we determined that there was a female Spirit attached to it the words that were coming through on ghost tube were like abused pain hurt no the name Steven came through fear came through oh my gosh and we were asking questions for when you picture someone in that scenario who has to or is forced to go through right that sort of treatment but it's also wild because in the manual it says like it treats all types of maladies which is also my new favorite word maladi maladies malady um I had a menstrual malady I was just about to say next time you period C you should just be like I can't record today of maladies overcome by malady that's what I put on Instagram when I had reschedule the live stream so throughout the live investigation which again if you want to see what happened you can go and watch

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it but a brief summary is we gathered that there was a spirit of a woman who I think she gave the number 27 at a certain point so might be 27 years old oh what I was going to say is this machine in the manual it say like used for every Mady like headaches oh I have a runny illness sh the [ __ ] out of me yeah and in theory it was basically like we think energy is way more a part of healing than yeah know it makes sense which I guess like Theory it's a good start crystals it makes me think of like using crystals and stuff no yeah it's a good start it's a good idea but I wish there was a cure all where it was just like here's one thing to do and it just helps you with everything but unfortunately it seems like whoever this was used on a woman who perhaps was 27 was hurt pretty badly by it we asked a bunch of questions and it was like said that she didn't die from the use on it but that it caused a lot of pain yeah and then it wasn't a stranger who used

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it but it wasn't a family member so I don't know necessarily who it was the name Steven came through and then she kept saying baby wow and there was a moment where a really intense energy came through and even everyone who was

The San Pedro Poltergeist Begins

listening and watching was like I just got a headache like I feel like bad energy so we did a whole intention setting and basically banished negative energy and everything like everything calmed and quieted what the [ __ ] and This Woman's this female Spirit kept saying doll and child and baby and I have a doll magazine that I had told you about that I got from the S flea market which is now sorry not going to be in the Pod Studio because we kind of all gathered that maybe it reminded her of a baby or her baby so we put it next to her to make her feel like she had her baby that's so sweet did it work I mean by the end of it everything was like a lot calmer and we made it very clear to her that she was safe that she didn't have to be afraid anymore and that like she's welcome to spend time here in my

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place and feel at peace and I feel like you need to start buying things specifically for her like clearly maybe she's into babies so like yeah I don't know are you going to start collecting dolls now and just put them all around her no no not quite the doll the doll magazine is enough but it was so cool and I felt so witchy it's also such a cool thing to do it with the community that we have to because so many people are so intuitive and I think when even people that aren't when everyone comes com together in a group suddenly people are experiencing stuff right so it's not like a one-sided thing where everyone's the viewer and you're just displaying things and doing your own investigation like it is very like holy [ __ ] what's going on it's the whole Community here yeah wow oh my God it was really really cool I can't wait to see these items I want to yes next time you have to come with me to the Sal flea market and then we have to do the invest it's open all year round great well no we started daycare so we can go have some Advent

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once he or I get adjusted to that yeah how was day one horrible M I went in with him I sat with him for 45 minutes and then I was supposed to leave him for 45 minutes and I sat in the lobby and within 10 minutes I just heard shrieking I was like that sounds like my baby this is this is big place like I'm hearing him like through the facility oh my gosh and I'm just like waiting it out waiting it out waiting it out and he's crying crying crying and then after 30 minutes I walk in and he's sitting on the daycare provider's lap and has toys and he like like hives everywhere he was crying so hard and she said that he had been fine when he was playing like individually and looking at himself in the mirror and playing with her and then when all the babies came down on the mat for playtime and they're all way more mobile than him because they're older they're like moving around and showing them toys and do would beel whoa whoa whoa babies can move terrifying so he was scared of the babies

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okay yeah I honestly props to you I can't imagine waiting those 30 minutes knowing you're baby is crying but you're C crying oh I'm sorry and I'm trying I'm trying not to cry right now it will be good for him like couldn't you can't cry in there cuz you can't make them think there's something bad so when I went back in I sat and played with him for another 10 minutes in there because I didn't want him to feel like I was going in and rescuing him from the situation like's here I'm I'm we get to escape like I was like no this is fun and like tried to help him play with one of the babies and anyway H I'm just like mad at my parents I'm out of Brian's parents why the [ __ ] won't you quit your jobs and move in and take care of Noah with us why do I need to go to daycare no would you actually really like that though yes I've asked them so many times I'll move in Noah Noah is like a 10 person job though I am really good at not doing

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things for myself and doing things for other people so I think I could handle it he's kind of he'll crush your soul he will I don't have one so okay then perfect oh any man I'm sorry that's okay

The Haunting of Jackie Hernandez

it's gonna be we'll see how it goes I'm giving it like a month of hopefully be by then yeah also I think it's good that he's going through this now because eventually he would have to go through this type of transition and it's probably easier at this age than yeah I have another friend who has a baby who's a year older than Noah and they just started at the same place and he was telling me he's like it's good to start younger he's like I can see a difference in like my kids's Behavior compared to the other kids Behavior so he's like there there is a difference for many kids with like yeah being in daycare and kind of getting certain social settings versus being at home yeah where you know Brian and I been to every whim of and request of Noah like he's never been told no yeah well he's a

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baby he can't be told no he doesn't understand no he doesn't know no yeah then neither do I yes and you're a theater kid at heart I dance for him all the time well I did tease a couple of other things but we'll talk about that in part two of this episode because this is a two-parter hey and hold on to your butts butts hold on to you butt hold on to them this is part one of the San Pedro Poltergeist Poltergeist I also think it's important to talk real quick at the top of this Sedro is a city in Los Angeles oh my gosh and I had this picked out for months and the timing of this but I'm sure everyone is in La is like it's all consuming I mean we both live there we have so many friends there even if you don't live there like just the amount of people that live there the amount of people lost everything and how scary and quickly it goes and it's also it's I feel like it's one of those

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things I mean it's horrible and like I think you and I were both up just like watching the fire I literally didn't sleep that first night yeah yeah it's terrible like constantly texting people being like are you still okay yeah and so many people aren't right but I I think there's something to the day and like the age that we live in where we see people living it through social media like watching the videos of people in their homes filming surrounded by fire being like I don't know if I'm going to get out tell my parents I I love them holy [ __ ] I mean truly like the news could only capture so much but like getting actual updates of where the fire was and the damage and destruction it was causing or is causing because at this point that we're recording it is still a blaze in multiple locations yeah they think it's going to pick up again because the winds are oh it's just so heartbreaking but I've never seen things just like fully demolished gone like I I don't know what I was picturing I was

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picturing like some of the structure still being there and it just being like kind of down to like I don't know just some of it it's not it's leveled it's

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gone but I feel like social media is the way that I was actually able to see I had such an accent when I said that actually actually able to see the destruction yeah it's terrible so if any of our listeners are in Los Angeles we are here with you we're thinking of you I did donate to the Pasadena Animal Society great yeah there was a place that I went to I'm forgetting the name of it I'll figure it out again but like you could pay to buy firefighter meals oh that's so nice yeah oh wait it's The pasaden Humane Society that's what I donated to but um if you are local or if you're looking for ways to help there's so many resources we'll link some in the episode description oh my God so we feel for you la anyway I thought it was important before we go into the episode to actually address this because otherwi

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it's this elephant in the room that I'm like we're not insensitive people it's clearly impacting us and so many people so we had to talk about it the San Pedro Poltergeist I do want to give a Content warning this episode contains haunting subject matter and potentially triggering content it is the story of a vengeful entity who physically attacked attempted to kill and was relentless in its efforts to haunt not just one person but many holy [ __ ] okay okay the fact that your content warning I was fully expecting it to just be like you may be haunted after this episode but we're in for it okay I don't think that this will haunt anyone I hope I mean granted we haunt people when we talk about like the most benign things so I don't know but shout out to the documentary called an unknown encounter the true account of the San Pedro haunting directed by Barry Conrad it was released in 1997 and Barry Conrad is one of the investigators who investigated this case so it's actual footage and evidence from

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the investigation there's so much evidence recordings interviews documentation photos and I highly recommend watching it it was I enjoyed it it was like a dollar on Prime nice the story of the San Pedro Poltergeist began with a couple of odd things small knocks objects being moved a strange feeling of being watched and it turned into a years long haunting that followed multiple people hundreds of miles from home to home turned into one of the most volatile and terrifying hauntings that was a matter of life or death so it goes against the saying when in doubt move out it did not work in this case to begin let's discuss the setting of The Story San Pedro California which is a South Bay neighborhood of Los Angeles and home to the Port of Los Angeles there are also a lot of photos in this episode so if you want a frame of reference of where it is relative to Los Angeles and everything check out YouTube

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St Pedro is the peninsula rich with history it was home to the tongva peoples and archaeological sites St back at least 10,000 years Spanish explorers first came to the area on November 24th 1542 which was the day of the Feast of St Peter of Alexandria so that's why they called it San Pedro in honor of the saint okay the land was then taken from the native peoples uh and by 1848 after like you know bunch of different territorial Wars it was under United States control and of course with all of this history and energy there's an energy left behind on the land there was also in 1929 I I had never heard of this and I we lived in La for how long in 1929 there was an earthquake that caused a dramatic landslide that caused 40,000 square feet of land and homes to slide into the Pacific Ocean Jesus yeah it was called the sunken city I I had no idea

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no and now I'm starting to worry again that all of the like dried next time it rains that's what everyone's really worried about okay I know now that we have some history of the land we come to the primary subject of this haunting her name is Jackie Hernandez Jackie photo of her Jackie was 30 years old and she was living in California and it's kind of unclear a lot of information about Jackie begins with this story and I couldn't find much interesting and it's also Jackie Hernandez is kind of a common name so it's not easy to find where she is now or where she was prior to this right but that is kind of interesting that like your only Legacy that's accessible has to do with polter activity Yep this makes me wish we didn't live in a age of social media and stuff so that we could try to rewrite our own well to be imag is pretty good I feel like you search us and ghost is the only Association yeah so she's 30 years

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old she's living in California but at this time of her life I think it's so it's 1989 she is leaving an unhappy marriage and again I don't know much of the details but she was pregnant with her second child and she had a 2-year-old son named Jamie and she's like I need a fresh start I'm leaving behind something that didn't fill my cup didn't satisfy me wasn't good for me and she wanted a fresh start a new beginning so she found a quaint Bungalow in San Pedro California that she believed would be the vessel the home in which she could have in a bungalow too just picturing how exciting it would be to just like roll up it's a beautiful La Bungalow and just be like yes I'm going to fill this with all of the things I love it was not what she thought was going to happen instead she entered a nightmare on November 17th 1988 Jackie Hernandez moved with her 2-year-old son into home and here's a picture of it oh

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lovely is it blue I think so blue like a light blue in that photo I couldn't find the exact address I think the house still stands and there's a lot of footage in the documentary I was talking about of the home so it wasn't too long after moving into this house that Jackie became convinced that uh she was not alone there was something else living with her something otherworldly and this reminds me a lot of the Poltergeist story you covered in October the SML possession the SML possession yes as with so many hauntings and Poltergeist cases there were so many seemingly innocuous and benign things that were occurring that Jackie was like it's the house it's new or there's like pipes creaking so she kept writing a bunch of things off but then there was one thing that she recalls being like I couldn't reason with it I couldn't rationalize it I couldn't figure it out she had a friend over and she was walking past her desk and there was a pencil holder that literally levitated and keep in mind she has a witness like her friend is sitting

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watching this happen Jackie's walking past it the pencil holder levitates flies off the desk towards Jackie I feel like throwing a pencil is a dangerous move yeah yeah she's like what there's intent to harm there yeah and that's like the first I can't write this off mhm incident in February of 1989 just 3 and a half months after moving in Jackie is walking past her children's bedroom and she sees something and she stops she's like maybe I just saw like a Shadow sitting there on her child's bunk bed is an old man what the a fullon Apparition of an old man sitting kind of Vibes though I'm about to play like fun Grandpa Vibes Santa Claus Vibes um debatable Intruder Vibes I do have a video clip that I'm going to play and this is from the documentary mhm and she describes this man so you'll get the Vibes right now okay every time I've seen him he's always been cross- L

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he's got a grayish he looks like he's a corpse it looks like a corpse and he's got a grayish uh tone to him and he's wearing a red flannel shirt and his shirt is tucked in his pants are high waters and they're like um the gasoline gas attendant pants that final audio is from the documentary okay I have one thing to say about this mhm this is supposed to be an older man who's wearing like the high-waisted pants or jeans or whatever a flannel but he's sitting cross-legged I think when you get to a certain age sitting cross-legged is really tough so this is either a demon or a very flexible elderly person it reminds me of I feel like old men like to cross their legs do they I feel like I've never seen that really pay attention next time you see I feel like the closest I get is I see this oh really I see and then they have to hold it because they have to hold it in place I see a lot of this with they like little one foot dangling yeah when they're like the the history

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teacher at the local college and they're they weigh 110 lbs we also don't know age we don't know how he's not like he might not be 9 yeah but he might be like 70 this is one of those things where like we're getting older and so my view of who is older is changing where it's like someone might see my dad and be like that's an old man but I'm like no that's my that's dad age that's my dad that's a dad yeah that's true dad age changes with your age so funny so yeah she is able to see all of these details of this man and she's like okay can't ignore that and can't deny that can't rationalize that but also people are like she's pregnant at this point she's like pretty pregnant she's about to have a baby so maybe the veil is kind of becoming a little bit thinner for her sure and I think a lot of people are writing her off when she starts to talk about it because they're like it's probably just a pregnancy thing you're also going through so many changes they're also like you just moved into a new house this is the first time she's living by herself with her kids or her kid and then she's about to give birth so there's a lot of stressful energy

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around her okay I mean despite that I feel like it's a pretty dramatic thing for someone to write off hey I more than once I frequently see a man sitting cross-legged who seems angry in my home yeah I mean a lot of people so that's like some people but then also a lot of people start to experience it in her house I mean the first thing that I told you about the pencil holder someone witnessed it with her yes true so the next thing Jackie recalled as unexplainable was when a painting flew off of her countertop now small things are happening every day it was as if something was gaining energy after a period of small hauntings so like small things would happen and then a big thing would happen so it was almost like gaining energy and then a big thing would happen then it go back to small things and then a big thing would happen whether it was seeing a physical manifestation of a spirit or something being physically manipulated and thrown in a violent Outburst one of Jackie's friends Susan castan she's featured quite a bit in the doc mentary she saw and felt the spirit and she said it even

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followed her to her own house once one day Jackie went into her attic which this attic is a hot spot for the rest of the story a lot happens in yeah she goes into her attic and like it's one of those attics where it's not a pull down stair thing it just like you have to press up the the panel and then put a ladder up oh yeah and it's in her laundry room so she pokes her head up and apparently sees floating heads darting towards her what yeah multiple heads that's what she says oh my God so this is when she's like okay I have to admit something Supernatural and otherworldly is going on and almost at the same time a strange liquid start to seep out of the light switch what the and keep this in mind cuz this is going to come back around and it so she gives birth to her daughter Samantha and she's now like okay something is really happening going on

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here and now I'm starting to worry about my kids I have two kids now I have to put them first their safety first and one night she has a babysitter over this babysitter's name is Darlene and Darlene is sitting in the living room with the TV on when she hears a sound coming from the bathroom she gets up to go investigate and then she hears a voice coming out of the bathroom it says don't come in here jeez why what are you doing she doesn't go in cuz she's like she's so certain I mean it chills her to the Bone and she was so certain with every fiber of her being that whatever that entity was wanted to hurt her and had she gone into the bathroom something bad would have happened it is interesting though that it it wasn't trying to summon her into the bathroom like it was almost like it was fighting it with itself like it knew it wanted to do harm because normally you hear like a get out or something luring right in but this one was just like don't come in here he was going to

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the bathroom and needed some privacy he was constipated he was looking in the mirror giving himself a pep talk you are brave you are strong you can scare people so this is actually an

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interesting point because there is some debate of how many spirits were haunting the home and Jackie believes that there were more than one and this story actually does make me wonder if this is evidence of multiple Spirits yeah like well also multiple floating Not That apter Couldn't manipulate manipulate yeah but like the multiple heads floating upstairs could be evidence of it too and in part two we'll discuss more of the breakdown the others so yeah maybe this was a spirit maybe there was a bad energy in there and there was like another spirit being like don't come in here I got this I'm fight this bad boy off I don't know but that was the final straw for Jackie and she was like I need help she calls up a team of parapsychologists that she saw on a local TV show met some of these characters people real life people before in episode 37 when which is so

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long ago wild there's no way I'm going to remember this you might we covered Incubus and succubus spirits and I covered Doris bther which was her story inspired the movie The Entity yeah and she was attacked by an incubus and this team investigated the case and there are these like famous photos of like light kind of surrounding her this is drawing a bell yeah drawing a bell ringing a bell there's probably so many phrases that we say but use incorrectly yeah so Barry Taff is the main guy who did investigate the entity Doris bther case which happened in Culver City California Barry Conrad Jeff wheatcraft and Larry Brooks there are some other people who were occasionally brought in friends and stuff but this group they were parapsychologists but they also were like film nerds like they lived in La I think they wanted to make it in the industry they would film parties weddings and a bunch of other stuff to

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actually make money and then this was their side gig that they would spend time their hobby how cool it's like us yeah hobby turned job thank God yeah yeah literally so Barry Barry Jeff Larry what yeah so barries and Jeff this whole group they were basically apprehensive and and I think similar to us there's a sense of skepticism when you enter a certain place just a healthy skepticism where they're like we don't know this woman it's possible other stuff is going it's an investigation because they have to investigate if something's actually going on exactly it's not really like us cuz we don't we're not skeptical hello ghosts we're here we believe everyone is haunted and everything is haunted so they're like we're going to go into this but we're going to go with an open mind but also being prepared that it's nothing so on August 8th 1989 they visit Jackie Hernandez's home in

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San Pedro California they're equipped with cameras and paranormal investigative equipment and immediately they are struck by the sensation of the home there is an energy about it and there's also a foul stench emanating throughout the home classic sign haunting red flag number one yeah so they said we always hear of it being a sulfuric smell but I wonder if there's something else like do they have like I'm wondering if there are certain demons like different species that have different smells attached to them so is like sulfur one of them garbage is another one like interesting you know it does remind me of the 72 Demons of Solomon episode because they all have such different attributes right like some of them appear as like chiseled romantic beautiful men and then others show up as creatures so right I imagine so they sit Jackie home in her house and they're asking her questions asking her to like recall and a lot of her experiences with these

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hauntings she tells them of basically everything I had told you and also of a deep humming that she would hear coming from the laundry room which is the room you have to go into to access the attic and she told them that she was physically pushed even though no one else was in the home and she felt what was like a hand on the bottom of her back and she's pregnant being shoved in her house at this point she had she had the baby okay yeah so she believed that there were multiple entities in the home haunting her and her children and this whole group they're like we can tell that Jackie is very very scared they continue to document the story and Jeff who he's a photographer so he has a camera with him kind of throughout this whole entire uh like a photo camera not a video camera this entire two part he's like can I see the attic cuz that's where she saw those heads darting at her and he's like attics are typically pretty haunted maybe I'll catch a photo of something right so he enters through the laundry room heads up into the attic bringing his camera along and the attic

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is Pitch Black he can barely see anything and so he starts snapping photos with his camera basically like using the flash to illuminate the space and potentially catch a photo of whatever's up there but he feels uneasy and he's like am I psyching myself out or is there something watching me because he can't take that feeling yeah where it's like I feel like I'm not alone but I know I am alone also he's in a stranger's house and I also feel like if I were one of the spirits there or for an entity I'd be watching and lurking but I wouldn't make myself so available to give him proof yeah I would just kind of be like sussing him out like dating yeah yeah stalking first then dating find out where they live watch them through a window see what they do see who they really are and then decide to go on a date or not so Jeff takes one photo he takes the second photo he clicks on the shutter to take a third photo and as the flash goes off the camera is ripped out of his hand

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what holy [ __ ] this is not what I thought was going to happen yeah oh my God so he's startled and he immediately leaves the attic but he leaves his camera up there cuz it was like ripped out of his hand he's not going to go follow it and it's pitch black oh so he goes downstairs and he tells everyone what happened and he's like I need to go get my camera this is so scary this is one of those things where you and I would hold hands and we'd get like four more people to hold hands with us and we'd all have to go in like this Big Blob of a chain go back up there to go back up Jeff never should have gone back into the attic but he does multiple times so he goes back up to the attic to find his camera see if he were a Larry or a Gary or a Sherry or Barry he wouldn't have done that but those Jeffs those Jeffs Barry barries do go up in the attic later no and I think a Gary too damn it Barry Gary and Larry in the Attic okay so Jeff goes back up into the attic he brings a flashlight to basically find his camera he goes up there his camera is in two parts the

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lens is removed from the body of the camera and neither of them are where he was standing taking photos damn the lens is on one side of the attic completely on the other end is it broken no it was just like disassembled and the body of the camera are so expensive I know and the body of the camera is on the other end so they are on opposite ends of the attic neither of them are in the spot where Barry or where Jeff you know it's one of those things where it's like if you say Barry it's probably but this neither of these were where Jeff was standing so had to move it move them nowry conad joins Jeff in the attic and he agrees something is off in there and a lot of the story does I feel like the other Barry and Larry and Gary and all these people are involved but a lot of the encounters and stories that I'm going to talk about are heavily revolving around Barry Conrad and Jeff wheatcraft okay so they spent a significant amount of time in this house yes if I were this woman I would be I

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would want that because to be alone with a newborn like fighting this thing I'd be like no the whole all the teams need to come in and get this thing out of here right and it sounds like she actually did have good friends because the fact that her friends have so many experiences means that they were over there a lot despite all the scary stuff happening and I don't have it in the research but there were multiple times where like we do and we tell people to do Jackie would out loud tell The Entity that they were not allowed there to leave to not harm her and her kids but it just didn't work has anyone ever gotten rid of a poltergeist with kindness I wonder you know I don't know like you just fully treated it like a kid having a tantrum and you're just

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trying to Gentle parent the Poltergeist like if you just start explaining things just like oh I get it like we have big emotions and I totally accept your big emotions in the live stream oh you did like anger came through and I go okay I

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understand that you have anger but you cannot take it out on me anger is a really big emotion that you need to learn how to process yes it's usually a secondary emotion so what's at the root of it like I Bally was that is the next wave of parenting going to get rid of all of the demons in people's homes and in their do they really just need to be gentle ped I do I'm in my gentle parenting parenting myself phas you can come help me with Noah okay so Barry Conrad joins Jeff in the attic and Jeff why he keeps going in the attic I don't know but Jeff keeps bringing his camera up there the second he turns his camera on when he's in the Attic it dies and then he would leave so the first time it happened he left the attic to go get another battery presumably but the second he left the attic his camera turned back on and the battery was completely full which is common we've seen this happen in a lot of cases this happened to us multiple times and it would happen over and over so he would go back up to the attic turn the camera on it was dead go back down battery come came back on this is also

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reminding me of when we had one of our we've played a live show like two or three times in New York city so far but one of the times when it was filmed yeah and our listener who was filming it for us he brought multiple cameras remember Victor was like well I know you guys are haunted and things happen so I brought like three or four cameras just in case one of them fails and almost all of them failed except for like one wasn't that in Portland was it yeah that was before we went on tour tour and then he filmed New York One On The Conjuring tour okay shout shout out Victor hey hey which also if you want to watch Back The Conjuring tour we're going to release it on patreon for purchase so you can go over there and check it out while in the Attic now things are becoming more physical towards Jeff something pushes him and Barry witnessed it Barry was like okay we definitely need to leave because whatever is up here clearly doesn't like us or doesn't want us to be here so they leave and immediately upon exiting the attic they hearing banging coming from the attic and it sounded

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like someone was pacing walking back and forth very angrily stomping above them wow okay One Singular yeah sounds like a pair of foot yeah pair of foots one pair of feet Jeff pokes his head back up Jeff and also it's really endearing and sad but also like you feel for him Jeff is in the documentary he talks a lot about how people like are like calling him crazy for continuously doing things after a lot of things happened to him but he also was like so desperate to make sense of everything yeah you'll see there's more that Jeff does that you're like what in the world the line between bravery and delusion is thin here is thin so he is hoping to catch sight or a glimpse of whatever is up there so he pokes his head back up in the attic and the second he does it the sounds the footsteps go quiet but he felt the atmosphere of the house change like it turned thick and molassy at the same time Jeff Witnesses

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three flashes of light pop really quickly in the Attic like pop pop pop this reminded me of the basement in The Conjuring house exactly yes that's I literally wrote reminiscent of The Conjuring house and the entity then after those three flashes of light Jeff sees a shadow that is darker than dark moving in the Attic lights keep flashing The Entity keeps moving slowly like dark thick molasses by the end of their first afternoon this is all happening in one their very first encounter with Jackie by the end of their first afternoon with Jackie these parapsychologists were certain that this haunting was legit so they continue to come stay at Jackie's house and do a full investigation a couple days after this first day at Jackie Jeff goes to get his photos developed and finds that there are multiple photos with orbs lights in them but when he took the photos he didn't see them we have a couple examples and in the documentary there so so many more I tried to take photos from my phone of

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the screen so if you see a reflection in any of them it might be me hi or my my

Mysterious Liquid and Its Origins

dirty computer screen um not the demon trying to sneak himself in yeah now this part blows my [ __ ] mind remember that dripping oozing liquid yeah well on August 26th happy birthday to me I wasn't born yet in 1989 at 4:16 a.m. more liquid is spotted oo this time out of cabinets how do we know that this actually wasn't you you weren't born yet this could have been your soul before you chose to move forward it sounds very much like me it does I'm starting to be really suspicious odd that you chose this story to tell I'm actually the demon in the S ped house so this is documented on video and photo in the documentary there seem to be no source to this liquid dripping they're like what is this where is it coming from and Jackie's like I've seen this in multiple places in the house there's no hum it's not like a AC is leaking there's no

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pipes leaking and it's also so it's on these cabinets and it's just dripping off the edge like there's no water inside nothing it's so weird it's one of those things where I wish people collected them they're about to oh [ __ ] yes and you're going to freak the [ __ ] out they bottle it up and they get it tested in a lab this is exactly what I was going to say people need to do can you guess what it was goat blood mother Trucking human blood do they still have it I wonder if they could do a DNA match and see if it there's anyone if there's any hits so in a more technical lab term it was human blood plasma with a high copper and iodine content which is common in male blood so they determined that this was male blood where in the [ __ ] planet of Pluto did this human blood come from I don't know they have no idea yeah and it's not like it happened once like it's happening multiple times there's just a vat of male human blood that this thing has on hand it reminds me of when we talked to Laura Norton and one strange thing podcast they told us about the bleeding house yes in Atlanta yeah yeah

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where the hell was this coming from so weird and how did it get into the house and start seeping out of multiple orifices and do they still have samples of it good question that is something that I would want to well I guess you can't collect blood because that's um considered a hazardous material you can't go into store and just find a vat of blood Vats of blood yeah no I think you would uh the police would be called yeah too bad so now everyone's like what in the actual hell is happening here I mean they're already like that but this adds a whole new layer to it where it's well because you have you have an outside scientific laboratory telling you this is human blood it's not just someone being like Oh there's like weird things ooing and how the [ __ ] would Jackie get male human blood to just even if she was trying to like do some sort of trickery like where is she getting this right Jackie is becoming hyper Vigilant and so now she starts documenting things on her own when the team and stuff are not there just 2 days after the blood blood was dripping from her cabinets Jackie is in her kitchen

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with her friend Christy zivkovic and both of them see balls of light arching and moving back and forth Christy was like I want to get the hell out of here I'm terrified I don't want to be in this house anymore and Jackie is like let me grab my camera and starts taking photos yeah she then calls Barry Conrad and this is the actual voicemail hey this is Jackie it's uh 10:30 Monday morning uh I got a picture of it I think I got about three or four good shots of it that's going around on the kitchen ceiling and there's a light film of smoke up there and I don't know where the smoke is coming from but I got the lights that have been zooming around there's been light themes on the dancing around on the ceiling and there was also a shape form you can hear her excitement she's like oh my God I caught it yeah right cuz she also now is knowing that like this group of investigators are also not forging any photos and documentation that they're getting and developing right and she even takes it to go get developed at this photography place called A1 photo and they are

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Professionals in developing photos and they're like even we don't know what this is they looked like this is how she described it they looked like little jellyfish that would start as one blob separate into multiple it almost reminds me of aliens I was liter that did you see my my like facial expression cuz I was like this is so something has come up so many times when people see like orbs and UFOs and so often it is described as a jellyfish shape and they they some photos that actually look UFO shape like but they're miniature like right tiny so what the connection between ghosts an aliens an aliens cuz even The Conjuring house there's such a blurred line between aliens and ghosts yeah and very similarly they had those flashes of lights right and even just like the way that people have like the the what's it called the um headphones est's method est's method like it was intended to be used to communicate with aliens and then turned out you could communicate with the spirit world it's

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just so blurry what is anything we do not know but these photos are not blurry they ni seg way thank you they're they're catching so many of them and we'll talk about more specifically in part two like the diagnoses of these flashes of lights but they often seem to morph and split into threes and then come back together so okay now hauntings are escalating and Jackie could swear that she heard breathing in her bedroom as she was sleeping MH so she's really worried about her kids and she's like I want to pack up my things and leave but she's broke she spent all of her money on this place she just left a life behind her and she's starting over she doesn't have the money to start over again right she's also energetically drained hardly sleeping the hauntings are escalating and by the end of that week does she have just one child or more two she's a 2-e old son maybe three

Escalating Hauntings and Frantic Calls for Help

at this point and a newborn I do Wonder like did they ever address it in the document if the kids saw anything or said anything yes um they didn't in the

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documentary but I found an article from Los Angeles Times that was written in 1993 that she does talk about how it has impacted her kids luckily her daughter she was a newborn she too young to really remember but it did impact the sun quite a bit wow oh poor guy yeah okay so by the end of this week this is the last week in August beginning of September 1989 Jackie was certain and so was the rest of the the team that whatever was in the house whatever was Haunting the house wanted to hurt her and it would go as far as potentially trying to kill yeah I mean I mean this face like I was surprised but I'm not surprised at all because we've we've covered so many stories like this where this is the natural progression this is the escalation path where like it does get to the point where it feels like something is not just trying to ruin your life it is trying to end you yes keep in mind the investigation with berri's Larry and Jeff started on their

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first day there was August 8th 1989 now this is September 3rd so it's a little under a month that is a lot to happen in just like 3 weeks yeah and so it is the night of September 3rd and Barry and his team have been investigating Jackie's home for so long that they're exhausted they have no real answers they've tried to do a lot of things to help cleanse the space or rid the space of this entity which they don't talk much about in the documentary which I think was interesting but they're exhausted MH and so on the early evening of September 3rd they decide we need to go home shower change our Underoos and we'll regroup but not long after leaving Jackie's house Barry receives one of the most frantic and panicked voicemails from Jackie I'm going to play it this is the actual recording from the night of September 3rd I'm not stay here I'm on here I got to get out of here I can't stay here the objects were being thrown across the room the kids toys were being levitated

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off the ground I was just ready to like uh jump in the truck and just drive until I ran out of gas because I had no money at that at that time I just want to get as far away from the house as possible so she's screaming in the voicemail terrified and Barry and the team are still together because they just basically left her house in San Pedro they call her back and she's panicking she's answering talking to them and this is also recorded in the documentary but immediately the phone call is disconnected Jackie calls again again the phone call is disconnected so B Bar you're Target yeah so Barry and his team are like we're coming stay there we're going to drive to your home they hop in the car drove to Jackie's house and by the time they get there it is now in the early hours of September 4th 1989 Jackie thought that they were all going to leave once Barry and the team got there but they were like let's do a little investigating and as they recall it felt like the entity had been waiting for this to happen like it had finally got and the energy it needed the Poltergeist activity reached its

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Pinnacle they enter the home lights are turning on and off objects are being thrown it was the first time in nearly a month since Jeff had been in the house because after like that first incident he was like I'm going to take a minute away he decides to go guess where the attic of course and he goes up with other Barry Barry Taff and Jeff wheatcraft go up to the attic it's 12:50 a.m. Barry Conrad is in the living room setting up a video camera while Barry and Jeff the other Barry and Jeff go up to the attic with a camera and a flashlight Jackie is with her friend and her kids at this point and she's like I'm not taking my eyes off of my kids the energy and the air is thick the attic is empty it is dark at 1:00 a.m. a light flashes near Barry Conrad Who's down in the living room and he hears three snaps like finger snapping and he calls to everyone cuz he thinks like oh the entity's down here like something's happening here come down here um I just want to give a quick

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content warning that there is talk of hanging and there are photos but everyone is okay just so everyone knows so Barry and Jeff who were in the Attic hear it and they're like okay let's go downstairs as Jeff is starting to go towards the exit of the attic he is physically attacked an invisible force pulls him up onto a loose nail wrapping a nodded rope around his his neck trying to hang him Jeff begins to shout for help and I'm just going to resay it Jeff did survive he was okay of course these events were traumatizing and there are photos which we'll show in a minute but Barry who's in the Attic with Jeff starts a panic he cannot see anything Jeff is yelling from across the attic and so Barry starts taking photos with the camera again trying to illuminate the space so that he can get closer and closer to Jeff and help him cuz he doesn't know what's going seeing that on the camera you're like desperately trying find your friend and that's what you see through the L you can't see you can't see the photos because it's like

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an old timey photo where you need get the film developed oh yeah so he's basically having to like guide him towards Jeff's location and Jeff is choking barely able to like get words out and when Barry finds him he feels around and realizes there's something wrapped around Jeff's neck and that there's this nail up so like Jeff is I'll show you a photo of how he was found so oh my God he lifted up a little bit his feet are barely touching the floor there's this like slat of the ceiling that a nail almost seems like it was attached to and something was wrapped around Jeff's neck attached to the nail in order for Barry to get Jeff down he had to physically bend the nail to remove the knotted rope finally you hear about like demons trying to strangle people I've never heard of this no Jeff still to this day like doesn't know how all of this happened and like he recalls almost blocking out which I think you would need to to mentally traumatizing traumatizing so finally

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Barry's able to help Jeff Jeff can breathe again but he's like terrified they quickly descend from the attic and there's also in the documentary there's footage of cuz other Barry who was downstairs brings the camera rushes to the laundry room where the exit of the attic is and is filming and you see Jeff descend and he has the Rope around his neck still nodded he has no idea how it happened they do note later on that the tie of the knot was a bow line knot which will come into play in part two oh interesting but it took so much time and effort to take Jeff down and Jeff is like I don't know what happened I lost time it all happened so quickly if you think about the amount of time it would take to wrap something around someone's neck knot it attach it to a nail MH that time did not pass and like he's an adult male so like the the effort to lift him like it all happened in a snap of a finger which is so crazy because it's almost like there was a distraction downstairs so that this entity had the

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time or like energy burst of fear to use again it's like all so shocking like how in the hell did this happen so quickly where did this rope come from where did the nail come from everyone is so confused especially Jeff he's shocked he is like if I was alone up here I surely would have died 100% he believes it yeah well I believe it too and it's almost it's reminding me in The smrl Possession when Ed Warren is being strangled and like that other team member ran up and was trying anything he could to like distract The Entity and try to save him

A Near-Death Experience and Ongoing Torment

it's like you you kind of have to have that secondary person you need help back up and the fact that the entity Has the strength to do that that makes me even more scared for Jackie because she's alone with two small children like what if this happened to her I know the kids are not going to be able to get her down but this was not the end of the night this was basically just the beginning and this wasn't even the close to the end of the hauntings what followed were multiple years of Torment continuous

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attacks and even more near-death encounters all of that and more next week on part two of the San Pedro polter guys holy [ __ ] M this is wild this is month one of like three and a half years of hauntings how is this not going to be like 18 Parts well you'll find out next week what damn it now I have to wait what a teaser isn't it so crazy that stories like this exist and we basically like just hadn't heard about it yet that's why I'm like we could do this podcast presumably forever yeah and these are really intense too I know it is one of those things when people ask like oh do you think you'll ever run out of stories no nope no never never okay I have a story and this is from our listener Anna Jean called Anna Jean I think I might have accidentally made a poltergeist I've no idea Jean is Southern but just like Jean feels like a southern name you know added on I have P her guys okay so Anna Jean she her

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Gemini mom wi those are the pronounce I love that I love the descriptor we got now we have more information yes we do maybe not Southern I now in our minds Anna gen is hi there ghostesses longtime listener here since episode one shut up shut up Pickle you come quat what the try and gum commercial literally no idea pickle you cumquat yeah like the why does it sound dirty I think it was meant to be okay a little bit where they're like arguing back and forth and they're basically like where would I have watched a commercial well this was like 15 years ago pre- Netflix oh yeah my recall ability well that's the only thing I have going on in my life I can't have new conversations because see you're so full with blank your brain is full of past Trident gum commercial and SpongeBob that's it there's a lot of SpongeBob in there Jimmy Neutron movie are the SpongeBob like thing where inside of SpongeBob's

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head it's a bunch of little SpongeBobs running around and the fil when you were talking about like the when Jackie had all of the stuff floating around and she's calling frantic in my mind the whole time I was thinking about when SpongeBob goes and he's trying to catch jellyfish and he like finds himself in that scary like underground section of Bikini Bottom area but I was thinking I was like what if Jackie had taken one of those jellyfish catching Nets just tried to catch all the items floating like would that be I mean there's jellyfish alien ghosts it's so fun getting insights into your brain I think SpongeBob can solve Poltergeist activity I think you're right we have all the answers it's right in front of us maybe SpongeBob created this poter that's my SpongeBob that's pretty good it was really not okay wow I felt like Gary is in it Gary's a snailing SpongeBob this is a scary episode SpongeBob I think okay where's the snail G you said there's a Gary I thought you were saying there was a snail in my story I was like I don't remember no but there's a snail and

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SpongeBob named Gary yes correct and he probably also would go up into the attic Gary did not go up into the attic okay well whatever okay long time listener ha since episode one I love you guys I feel like the two of you are my long lost ghost love and besties just want to start out by saying I seriously adore you both in your podcast thank you for keeping me company over the years okay so now on to the spooky things take a breath Jesus well I'm trying to go fast through the compliments and then slow through the ghost story I was like my go you really are SpongeBob's brain right now I've had a lot of paranormal experiences over my 27 years on Earth most of which I plan to eventually share so stay tuned for that all 27 years please yeah yeah today I wanted to write in about a few of my experiences at my haunted childhood home I've always been very sensitive and an intuitive person so upon first stepping into this house I could feel something lurking I felt its gaze constantly and it really just chilled me that's how it starts I refused to stay in my room by myself

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right from the get-go and I could tell that there was something watching us at all times yikes eventually my parents forced me to stay in my own room citing how much it was a privilege to finally have my own bedroom and I was happy to finally have my own space or I remember feeling that I should feel happy to no longer share bunk bed with my stinky older brother I had been looking forward to it ever since we moved out of our small apartment into the first real house that we've ever lived in but something just did not feel right all of my excitement and joy seemed to dissolve under the oppressive presence that resided in that house you made it such a good point earlier of like if you're an entity kind of sitting back and watching for like yeah you're getting a lay of the land and figuring out weaknesses yeah why make yourself known right off the bat that's a disadvantage don't show your hand all you have to do is be there and that instills enough fear yeah soon the invisible entity started to take more form one night I woke up drenched in fear someone or something slowly sat down on

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the edge of the bed near my legs and I remember my heart felt like it was about to burst out of my chest I held my breath all of the sudden there was a slow pressure of a poke to one of my legs and in shock and panic I rip back my covers only to find an empty bedroom of course I remember pleading to my parents to please just let me stay in their room or my brothers so much so that I would scream and I would cry I was just so afraid and my dad being a skeptic that he was insisted and enforced that I had to stay in my own room so I continued to have frightening things happen to me one night I woke up and instantly looked to the corner of my room only to see a Native American man crouching holding what looked like a dart blower or maybe a small weapon and he had white paint all over him and he wore a little to no clothing we made eye contact for a second and then he was gone but I will never forget the look on his face it must have matched mine pretty well because it was Ely an expression of confusion and Terror almost like a wrinkle in time you know

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like a they're like seeing each other accidentally through their own little portal time glitch another time I was at home alone and I'd rented the movie Paranormal Activity I was watching the scene at the end where one of the characters is thrown at the camera screen by the demon and it's very suspenseful and it involves hearing the sound of demon footsteps leading up the stairs until finally bang a dude is thrown across the screen and it goes black and then the movie's over sorry for spoilers well don't worry it's been out for like 20 years it's your fault if you haven't watched it yet but I sh you not as I'm watching this all unfold I'm on the edge of my seat I'm scared as [ __ ] I'm glued to the movie screen and as soon as that dude goes flying and bang my literal bedside lamp exploded yep right at the final scariest scene the same exact second the light bulb popped and shattered into a million pieces needless to say my soul just about left my body and I never rented another scary movie again terrifying one night I remember I woke up instantly

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terrified and the first thing I noticed was that my string lights that I always had and always kept on at night were mysteriously now off which left the room pitch black my heart thumped it was quieter than quiet in that room too much silence and all of a sudden as I lay there I felt something up against the side of my head and then I hear a single raspy word whispered please it was an older man's voice and I could feel his breath breath I don't think I've ever been so scared in my life before or since and I practically levitated out of that bed and out of that room screaming bloody murder all the way to my parents' room and down the hall and I don't even remember touching the ground I was out of there so quick please please please what please sir can I have some more the door to my bedroom stayed shut after that for months if not longer and even my very strict father saw pure Primal Terror in my eyes and finally finally agreed to let me stay with my brother who thankfully was cool enough to let me sleep on his floor it's kind of like you you would do that with

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Christian oh I I watched ET and I moved into my brother's room my parents had to put two twin beds in my brother's room and I stayed there until it was 12 years old and then begrudgingly and terrified I moved into my own room because of Middle School peer pressure otherwise I probably would have stayed in there until Christian was like you got to go got to go yeah I need once I went to college honestly after that my brother brother started to experience things too you brought it upon him oh sorry I misread that oh after all my brother had experienced things too okay like the time when my brother the rational left-brained one the one that would at first make fun of my creepy feelings about the house heard the man too my brother had gotten up to use the bathroom one night and he did his business and he shut off the light he walked out into the hallway that held all of our bedrooms and he stared out into the dark he said at the end of the black hallway he heard an older man's voice they bluntly hello my brother High tailed it out of there real quick and

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anyone who knows my brother Gus knows that he would never ever make up this sort of thing so I had to interrogate him in order for him to release this information one day my mom was Home Alone working in her office she hears a single bang on the window in the living room next to her office so she goes to investigate and there is nothing she goes back to work and again bang the noise she heard was definitely on the window and the only windows in that room face the backyard where no one and nothing was at the time so weird she thought and she says that she then walked around the house and into the backyard trying to investigate the source of the noise only to find absolutely nothing and right when she sits back down at her desk she hears the bang again but this time louder in in a succession of three bang bang bang and it scared my mom so much that she ran outside and she sat on the driveway until someone else came home as scary as that is I am I'm glad that her parents or her mom and other people are

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experiencing things because it felt like for so long she was alone in it and no one believed her yeah yeah that's true I mean yeah her brother experienced things but like didn't want to admit that he was exactly terrifyingly my mom has experienced this violent window banging before multiple times throughout her life almost as if it's following her but that's a story for another time that's an interesting story I want to hear I know very Paranormal Activity too yeah so much happened in that house door SL swiming Whispers cold spots many of my friends had experiences of their own including a time where my friend heard a man laughing in our guest room when it was only her and I in the house at the time another friend claimed to see a shadow standing over her as she slept and more had similar creepy feelings of being watched why do I feel like there's so many entities like it's not just one I almost feel like there's a portal that kind of like accidentally pop through or like some do accidentally pop through and they're like I like it here I'm going to stay well it could make sense too especially because of the moment where her and the Native American man looked at each other and it it seemed

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like she thought she was seeing a ghost but he probably thought the exact same right he was like who's this Stranger in this weird place right they both were probably most definitely alive just glimpsing at each other's timelines weird despite having not lived in that house for almost 15 years now I still dream about it nearly every week what I wonder sometimes if I might have created part of the energy that resided there we moved into this home when I was nine and I was very unhappy to move towns and to start over my parents divorced in that house and I went through a lot of tough adolescence there I struggled a lot with bullying and making friends during that time and I've heard that teenage girls can generate a lot of energy sometimes with all the emotions and energy they have and blood whatnot Lord knows I've always been steeped in Emotion LOL wow also after my parents bitter divorce my mom got her own place and I continued to experience things there too lots of polargeist day activity like things being moved or put in strange arrangements or places and the sound of

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things loudly crashing breaking and banging only to find nothing at all footsteps voices in the night Taps on the walls my mom also saw My Doppelganger there once so I'll have to write in about that next time so many intense paranormal things happened to me growing up starting with some dark force repeatedly trying to kill me as a baby and toddler in freaky and strange ways but again that's another story for another email feel like like Hercules you're defeating snakes in your crib I know and annae I'm mad at you where are these emails well maybe you sent them I got to look it up gosh I don't experience nearly as much now but I still have the occasional spooky occurrence I have so much more to share with you guys I'm looking forward to emailing you again soon sorry it's taken me seven years to finally write out one of my stories but I promise I will be better going forward I mean it's a long one so I get it yeah anyways thank you so much for taking the time to read praying I'll get to see you guys on this side sometime soon but if not I'll know where to find you much love always an a jeene she her Gemini mom witch well yeah

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you for sure are a witch I think that is very evident and clear and it seems like I I don't know I do think this house probably had some type of portal or something that maybe Anna jeene and her family like added to yeah but her mom has been having encounters for her whole life uh like I think it just runs in the family yeah but also like this house so many people had their first experiences here just like in Jackie's story her friends people that came into the house all experience things it it's like yes it probably is exacerbated by her family and her having this openness and this energy but it also seems so intense that non-believers people who've never experienced anything before enter and suddenly like boom first paranormal experience yeah although I guess the same could be said for my parents house yeah when she was talking about the encounter with the Native American in the corner it reminded me of this movie that exists and I just learned about it like over

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the this past summer it was a movie that I think we might have been a little bit too young for but maybe you've heard of it it's called Indian in the Cupboard you've seen it well it's a book isn't it wasn't a book that they made into a movie I don't know I I mean I don't remember anything about it but I definitely did watch it when I was like six okay I fell asleep watching it recently or I think or we turned it off I don't know but cuz they're like miniature people the only problem I have with this movie is that this is like a 9-year-old kid that for his birthday his family gives him like an antique cabinet like cupboard which it's like why I guarantee he didn't ask for that maybe he was into Antiquities but it was magical and he put a little like Native American figurine inside of it mm locked it and when he opened it the next morning he was alive uh that's the concept yeah it reminded me of that wow okay well I will be twiddling my thumbs until next week when I find out how Jackie

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survived this thing and she does survive yeah sorry for ruining the story well God I hope yeah everyone survives luckily but it is it's a wild ride and I'm very grateful that I've never experienced anything like it I know for the amount of emails we get where people experience really really scary terrifying things like it's kind of a miracle that you and I with the amount that we talk about the Paranormal and openness that we have to it haven't experienced anything that's kind of like skirting too hard on the terrifying yeah well the orbs of light thing really reminds me of my nightmare that he had the reoccurring dream with my sister like it was orbs of light fighting over her yeah interesting maybe it with aliens maybe I have encountered aliens maybe you have or maybe aliens and ghosts are the same thing we have no idea we have no answers no but if you've encountered anything even remotely like this or paranormal alien obser in any realm HLA all that hoopla haunting hoopla please email it to us at

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