Reddit Scary Stories | The Creepiest EVPs & Paranormal Evidence (Ep 363)

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Whenever we're about to like see or hear something that is thought to be demonic, it always crosses my mind like, should we not be listening to this? Is this summoning it? And I give you no choice. The most mindblowing piece of evidence ever, ever, ever. I'm very excited for today's episode because it is terrifying paranormal evidence found from Reddit.

Yeah.

Very spooky.

Hi. Hi. I feel like I have not been in this room

cuz you haven't.

For so long.

We were ill.

We were ill. We were recording like the old days.

Yeah.

Giving old school vibes. You're sparkly. Is that your lip gloss? I didn't I know it was on Noah, but I [laughter] didn't see it before.

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Well, the color has all gone away somehow. I've eaten the color and the glitter has stayed.

It's Fenty. I like Fenty.

It's really cute. Yeah. Thanks. It was like a dark mauve and now you can't tell. It's just my lips cuz I I put it on and then immediately ate breakfast. [laughter]

So, I'm just left with sparkly pale lips.

I like it.

But the color is really pretty. if you were able to see it.

One [laughter] day I'll see it.

You'll see.

But hi everyone. Hi. This is Two Girls, One Ghost. Two girls, one ghost. And we are your ghostesses. That is Karen.

Hi.

I'm Sabrina.

And there is an impostor amongst us.

What do you mean? Someone made the fake YouTube.

Oh. Oh. [laughter] LIKE, WAIT, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN US. I thought you were between all of us. Between you.

Someone really thought you were going to like call me out for something and I literally started racking my brain of like, what did I do?

Your secrets. [laughter] your secrets. I was like, "What? Did I say something?" No.

Do you really think if I had anything to say, I would say it here or not to your

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face?

I don't know. What if you needed eved witnesses to a fight? [laughter]

Well, it wouldn't be if

no. [laughter] I'm sorry that I scared you for a second.

No, there were imposters amongst us.

Guys, we made it. This is like the moment

it feels like maybe this podcast

someone basically stole all of our videos from YouTube and then created a brand new account and we have to give them credit. The logo that they had was cute.

We did like the logo though it was generated from chat

for sure. For sure. But they were reposting our videos. Same titles, same thumbnails, same like literally every copy and paste. They were responding to comments. gave us a new name though, which we won't say cuz we the channel's been taken down now.

It's been removed. But yeah, how crazy.

Yeah, we made it.

It was kind of a thrill [laughter]

though. Pretty stressful, too.

I know. Yesterday was one of those days where I feel like, and we're recording

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this February 18th, so yesterday in context is actually like a week or two when this episode comes out. But I feel like it was one of those days where I was doing so much like when I was working for like a long time, but I didn't check anything off my list. And I think it's because I spent so much time harassing YouTube and

and like indiv you had to individually go through every single video.

I was like, "Oh, shoot. Okay, we need to do this. We need to do this." And you're LIKE, "I DID THAT. I'M in the middle of it. [laughter] I'm reach reach ahead of this person." You were like, "Whoa." cuz I saw it at like 1000 p.m. the night before. So, I had started it that night.

How did you find it?

People on our YouTube were like, "Hey, did you guys start a second channel?" And then multiple people on our I think it's our Lake Linear episode. We're being like, "Hey, like just so you know, there's a fake account."

Impostor.

There was an impostor.

Are you watching Traitors?

No, but you do.

I haven't watched this season. I've watched clips.

I tailor everything I say to you,

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Sabrina. [laughter] Okay. Well, I have something. Okay. I'm very excited for today's episode because it is, let's just say it's terrifying and also incredible evidence, paranormal evidence found from Reddit, but I have a

Sabrina's psychic experience

personal ghost story to share first.

Yeah,

I'm still This happened last night. You texted me at 8:00 p.m.

And that was like right when it happened. Okay. So, as context, I'm going to This is close my computer business.

Oh, wow. Serious.

This is turn to face you business. Okay. I have not done the gateway tapes in maybe eight months, right? But yesterday was such

Last night is when you decided to do it.

So yesterday was such a busy day and I I feel like I'm trying to be better about

Wasn't there an eclipse?

Yeah, but that doesn't matter.

And on lunar [laughter] the or not lunar lunar lunar lunar year.

But okay, nothing bad happened.

Interesting timing of your Yeah.

So I am really bad at decompressing.

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like I'm just not good at it. I will continue working. I will continue looking at a screen until midnight, but I'm trying to be more conscious about like having a balance and like setting boundaries. And last night I wrapped up work at like 7:30 and then I was like, "Okay, I'm going to take a bath and I'm going just listen to like green noise and some meditative music." Not even like music, just sound.

I was in the bath and I was like, "You know what? Maybe I should meditate." And I was like, "You know what? I haven't done in a really long time is gateway tapes." So I decided to put my head and the scariest thing about the gateway tapes is that you have to use headphones because it's binaural beats

and so you really do feel kind of isolated and you your eyes are closed and it feels

like your environment

you put on one of the like noise cancelling ones that like really

I use my noise cancelling earpods. Um

but okay so I lay down and I'm doing gateway tape one like volume three. It's like the third

Mhm. track. And it's one of those

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situations that's so wild because the point of it is to put your body to sleep, but your mind is still awake.

At least for this the tape that I'm working on. I haven't gotten to the more advanced level.

Do in a tub.

No, no, no. I got out of the tub. I said in the bath is when I decided I wanted I got out of [laughter] my own.

I did not do Thank you for clarifying. I got out of the tub.

11 stranger things go into your little tank. I'm on my bed. Leia's next to me. Yeah. So, your body is asleep. And even my aura ring will said say, "Did you nap for like afterwards I checked it immediately and said, "Did you nap for 20 minutes?"

Which last time you did it too, it like always tracks that your body is really good at meditating. I feel like it's the binaural beats.

And without that, I'm not good at meditating. M so I do it and it is really weird because you kind of feel I try to keep my hand like on my chest or my stomach because I want to have like some type of grounding which might get in the way of things but it literally

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felt like my lower half of my body was like severed off of me but not in a painful way but in like a that my body doesn't exist way.

Oh weird. But my mind is

Do you think that maybe all of your consciousness just feels like it's in the top half of you and that's why

you felt like you were missing part of your body cuz just your like soul is right here.

Yes. But even still like my whole body felt was asleep like my hands were heavy everything. I was just only conscious of it I think of my upper body because my hands were on top of it. But okay, in the they call it level 10 where you're kind of in this other I don't even know what to call it in the gateway maybe as you get like they talk you through the meditation and you get into it and you're kind of like in this protective bubble but it's when your body is like fully asleep your mind is still awake and I start getting these like visions and this is something I had the last time where I had like that image of a man and like my future child like pulling me towards them but the second you try to like really focus on an image

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it goes H

I kept seeing Whitney we Thor and

that's [laughter] so crazy.

No, this is crazy.

Was Whitney doing this?

No, no, this gets even crazier. I kept seeing Whitney, but specifically she was dealing with a situation where she felt like someone was watching her and it was so specific. And in the last couple of weeks, I've been like, "Oh, I want I should check in on Whitney. I haven't talked to her in a little while. Like, I just I should text her." But I haven't. But I'm having this experience.

[clears throat]

But I wonder if somehow you were projecting some of this on me cuz last night I literally was getting into bed at like 8:15 and I thought to myself, I haven't talked to Whitney in a long time. I owe her a phone call.

That's also wild. That's so weird.

Which it must be from you like projecting what's happening.

And then her and I talked cuz this is okay. So, I'm I keep thinking about Whitney May Thor and she is specifically dealing with and I see her looking like out a window. And again, this is like it's so hard to explain what it looks

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like cuz it's more of just like imagery rather than a full like dream playing out or whatever it is. She's looking out a window like to see if someone's outside watching her. And she's saying like, "I feel like someone's tracking me."

It was weird.

Which is scary too cuz she has dealt with stalking. So, in my mind, I'm like maybe it's just like a random thing and like yes, she's told us stories of dealing with stalkers before.

I have more images and other things like some that make no sense to me and I keep like I keep trying to like make sense of them but I they don't. Anyway,

I finish this and I was like I have to reach out to Whitney. I text her and I say I like don't mention the the dream or like the gateway things at all. I go friend how are you? I've been thinking of you a lot lately and wanted to check in. And she goes, I dreamt about you last night, probably because I was listening to you when I fell asleep. And then I go, "Wait, so weird. I just did a meditation and you came up so clear, but it was weird because I was seeing you being scared of something. Like you felt like someone was watching you." I didn't

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mention that part up front, but uh, hey, you jumped to me, so now I can tell you I'm having weird meditation messages about you. She sends me a voice note. I won't share it, but basically the day before before she was room with me, she had gone to the dog park with Goosey

and she was sitting there doing whatever, writing, journaling, and then when she got home, goes about her day, yada yada. It's like late at night, she's falling asleep and all of a sudden her phone starts like doing this weird sound and she looks at her phone and there's notification that says like an item has been with you. Oh my god. Someone had slipped an air tag into her bag while she was at the dog park cuz it literally [ __ ]

it literally showed the time that it started cuz like you can open the map, right? And it shows that it had been following her since the time she was at the dog park and like was with her since. So someone put she found it in her bag.

That is terrifying.

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She did the things that I saw in my meditation. She looked out the window to see if like there was someone outside watching her. She called someone and had like said the words that I heard her saying in my meditation.

I have chills.

Isn't this insane? I facetimed her immediately and I was like,

have goosebumps on.

I know. So, it's not really a ghost story, but like I had a psychic moment doing the gateway tape.

That is crazy.

Isn't that wild? One, I'm concerned for Whitney's safety and I definitely need to reach out to you now to see how she's doing. But two, like I feel like you are I know you were like, "Oh, no, I'm not good at the meditation. It's just the B binaural beats." [laughter]

No. Like that's so intense. You literally like saw into the past and witnessed like you timeraveled. I had a psychic moment. That is crazy. Are you going to do it again?

Oh, for sure. And I'm going to be more I'm going to be better about it cuz I I really do believe and I've had moments you and I

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both have had moments where we're a little bit more in tune and more woowoo and experience things in like the paranormal psychic realm.

But I also feel like

even when I get hit vision

Yeah. Like I saw an image of her.

Uhhuh.

Like I've never had that. It's just like a feeling where like I know what's going to happen,

right?

Or that someone's going or like you feel the emotion. And you feel you're just like given the knowledge of the person.

Yeah. It's interesting cuz I don't really feel like I'm seeing it in my mind's eye. It's not like a clear image. It's like the idea of the image if that makes sense. It kind of goes back to the conversation of how we think see things or think things.

But it wasn't like you were doing this and somehow like astral projecting to witnessing Whitney go through this. Like it happened a different day.

The day before.

Yeah. That's what is blowing my mind even more because it's like you went and it wasn't like you were accessing Whitney's memories like it was like you were watching her

experience it

experience it.

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Oh my [clears throat] god.

Yeah. I don't know. But that's super weird. And

you don't just also like take that long of a break between the tapes and then just pick up and do that.

Yeah. Cuz there each of the meditations are like 35 minutes.

Okay. I want to do them now.

I really think

is this going to be my therapy?

No. It's cuz it's not really therapeutic. It's

I know. But don't we talk about how [laughter] maybe I need something that's like therapyesque true therapy.

But this is not a healing your body situation. It's about like getting into the universal consciousness.

Yeah, maybe that's what I need. [laughter]

Anything to avoid truly fixing myself.

I made Karen cry yesterday talking about how

she said you need therapy. [laughter]

Well, I said it a lot nicer than that. Like, hey, I'm going to say this again. I was like, I don't. Here are the 17 steps that I plan to do instead of therapy. And you were like, I don't think so. [laughter] I'm going to start crying again.

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Instead, I'm coming over on Saturday and we're going to plan

design

or just hang out,

whatever we feel in the moment.

Um, but yeah, that's my

That's wild.

A little psychic moment.

Oh my god, that's really really cool.

Yeah.

Damn. It's also weird because I feel like what I was saying is like you and I both have had like little hits of, you know, psychic moments or whatever you want to call them, witchy moments. And I feel like I often secondguess myself so much because I'm like, "Oh, it's just my brain." Or it's the same thing when we did the automatic writing.

Yeah.

Where it was like I feel like I'm just like writing random things that come to my mind,

but then sometimes they ended up being like real things

to other people in the room. Okay. We actually, now that you're saying that, this is a perfect Also, Whitney was there last time when we did the automatic writing, but I feel like this is a perfect example of what happens.

Whitney's present. [laughter]

You are picking up on something someone else is experiencing, like a third party in the group, and I'm picking up on you

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in that moment. [laughter]

Cuz in the automatic writing, I

Yeah, you picked up on me.

I was like, I don't know what I'm seeing. And it was just like a whole description of you and what you're going [laughter]

Yeah. I was like, "Uh, okay.

All right.

Wow. Oh my god, that's so cool."

Yeah.

Well, maybe if this is Why am I opening my computer? You're talking today. [laughter] Um, but if like anyone was waiting for a moment to start the gateway tapes, I feel like this is a huge

Yeah. motivating story that like maybe you'll get to tap into.

Yeah. It does also make me think that all the other things that I'm seeing that don't totally make sense will eventually make sense. Dana Newkerk told us.

Yeah.

Sometimes things are out of order. They come at random times and then like seven years down the road you're like, "Holy

shirt balls."

Yeah. So stay tuned for my future.

It's a future I can see.

intro: paranormal evidence from Reddit

Um, okay. I'm very excited for this episode. We love paranormal evidence

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and we love Reddit stories shared on Reddit. I went deep diving on the paranormal and ghosts Reddit threads, forums, whatever you want to call them, and it got to the point where I think I maybe listened to and watched like a thousand plus videos. And

oh my god,

Reddit was almost like, "Girl, take a break." Because I would like click on something and then the top would be like, "This was unable to load."

And then I would refresh it and then it would finally load. But it [laughter] was like

or are you like desensitized to paranormal evidence now having viewed like a thousand?

No. And there's once the first one I'm going to share with you is like the most mindblowing piece of evidence I think I have ever

ever

ever. That's wild cuz you just made that declaration about Wyatt's video from Winchester Mystery House.

I'll probably make it again about a million other things. But no, this is

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cuz I specifically am focused on

what's his name? Wyatt or Warren?

I think it was Wyatt.

Wyatt. Okay. Sorry. I don't remember.

Don't second guess yourself.

W

have therapy.

But this episode is mostly like EVPs.

Okay.

So, specifically when it comes to EVP evidence, this is insane. We like evidence. Photos, videos, scratches, possessions, EVPs. We love it. We love it all. We want it. It's haunting. Give it to us. We've like caught a lot on our own podcast, too.

You all have actually helped us catch them and you'll like be like, "Hey, does anyone else hear this sound?" And then it's a male voice that we've heard multiple times on the podcast.

Yeah, that was one of the

It's wilder

things. And for context, what Sabrina is talking about is a few years ago, maybe like four or five years ago, we did like a one-off show in Portland, Maine. And for that, we did like a Boston and Portland.

Yeah. And for that, we like put together like a couple EVPs that were captured on our podcast and we realized that we

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captured the exact same male voice that sounds like maybe in their 20s or 30s in the background of our recordings like 3 years apart that are not the people that we were living with at the time. And we had both moved apartments

many times. So, it couldn't have been like a neighbor passing by or like just someone else who like works remotely on the other side of the wall or whatever. It made zero sense. There was no way,

right? We We don't recognize the voice.

We don't. And I It does. I mean, it maybe it's Fen. And also, we had our aura photo taken for our holiday cards in 2025 on Patreon.

And in our aura photo, we we did individual photos. This entity, this like what they call spirit in aura photos does not show up in either of our individual photos. Together, there is a spirit that shows up

in our aura photo. And then we went again cuz we're going to house witch in Salem every single month this year to get our individual photos done and then

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our photo together and our January photo. She was like, "Oh, there's a spirit again." Still in only the photo of you guys together.

We'll see. February is coming up soon.

Yeah.

Okay. So, I basically wanted to take to Reddit, which is simultaneously the best and scariest place on the internet.

Yeah, it is. There's a lot of uncensored things.

Yeah. And I wanted to see what people on Reddit deem to be the most convincing piece of evidence cuz I do feel like the ghosts and paranormal forums have their fair share of skeptics. Mhm. Mhm.

And there were a bunch of

It's also hard in the world of AI now.

But so a lot of the posts that I did find were from like 5 to seven years ago.

Yeah. Which is that's better cuz most people didn't have

the skill or access to things that could manipulate like that.

I will say there were quite a few that I listened to that was very clearly like the person just pretending it was like a ghost. Like they were clearly like sitting in their bedroom being like, "Oh

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yeah, I got an EVP." And it's like them. Hello.

Yeah. because you can tell the difference when it's something like right up to the microphone or something that's kind of in the distance and you can't hear it in the moment.

I am going to briefly share what EVP stands for.

It stands for electric voice phenomenon and it's basically a voice or sound that often times isn't heard by the naked ear, but is heard after the fact when you replay a recording or a video or something. But sometimes people do hear it in the moment. Like if you're using a spear box or you hear something and then it also gets picked up.

Yeah.

On on the recording.

I mean like another great example of this if anyone went to when we did our 34 run tour about the conjuring house when Greg and Dana Newkerk came with us when we were in the upstairs room. Greg had brought out like one of those like old school tape recorders that like you'd think of in like a

the one 1980s like investigation on the

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table or whatever. literally only records when it hears when someone's talking.

Yeah. And there were plenty of EVPs caught on that that we did not hear live. And it wasn't like we were asking things, waiting for an answer, nothing would be heard. Asking another thing, waiting for an answer, and nothing would be heard. But then like it's not like we waited days and then reviewed

audio. It was in the moment. Greg would go back what we had asked and then listen so that we could like keep the conversation going.

Yeah. Wild. You really don't hear these things live.

Some of them you don't. Some skeptics or skeptics the not fun folk like to say it's radio interference or just our brains finding patterns like parado. Um but we said ghosts and so too do a lot of people on Reddit Paranormal and Reddit ghosts. I'm going to start with, like I said, one of the most wild and intense EVPs I've ever ever heard. And it's a long one. Like, this isn't just a

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quick like one thing. It is a I think the clip is like almost like a full minute and a half.

Oh, wow.

I do want to give

someone talking like of the EVP.

It's a lot of things.

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I can't breath EVP

is like as we go through these evidence, I'm going to give a little bit of context. I'm not going to say what the people hear. I'm going to play it. We'll discuss. I'll then share what the people heard and we'll play it again.

A true test.

Yes. I do want to give a little bit of a content warning because this EVP is believed to portray potentially a murder

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or a death. Yes, I found it first. Okay, so it is it was actually posted at quite a few places all over Reddit, but I first found it on the Reddit Ghost forum in a thread posted 5 years ago by someone named Oxom's Razor. The original poster was asking for the most compelling piece of evidence out there, and then this user responded with the EVP we're about to play for you. I'll play it at normal speed, then I'll play it slow down, then we'll discuss what we heard. But this EVP was first shared on Art Bell's Coast to Coast on April 2nd, 2005. It was recorded by a group of paranormal investigators called the Ghost Investigator Society, GIS, during an investigation of the Odgen Exchange Building. I'm probably saying that town wrong, in Odkin, Utah. This building first opened in 1931. It was used for business and commerce. And over time, the elaborate and ornate building fell into decay and disrepair, but it has been deemed a historical landmark, but it's currently sitting boarded up waiting for repair. I couldn't find the

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exact date that this EVP was taken, but clearly before April 2nd, 2005, the GIS group visited this building for an investigation. Two of the members, Brendan Cook and Barbara McGith, are the people who went on coast to coast with Artbell and shared this. And Cook recalled that the group had been recording on the upper levels for quite some time. his battery on his laptop was getting low, so he decided to go downstairs to one of these office spaces that had an outlet that he could charge his laptop in. He plugged it in and set it on a shelf and left it to record. And keep in mind, this building when they're there is abandoned. So like maybe there's like desks and like like some office type things left behind.

Yeah.

Water is not working. There's not really a ton of office supplies. There's no no one else around. There's just not enough account for what is captured.

Yes. Leaves his laptop recording on a shelf and he goes walks out of the room

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to rejoin the group. So the entire group is elsewhere in the building. No one is in this office room. The recording is silent for 7 minutes. Oh well, okay. So it wasn't until after the investigation that Brendan Cook listened back to this recording. It's silent for 7 minutes. We won't listen to the 7 minutes of silence, don't worry. But after those 7 minutes, he discovered the most haunting EVP. Again, no one was in or near this room at the time. There were no children present in the investigation or the building. And there was absolutely no water in this room, let alone in the building. There was no running water at the building. Period. So now I will play the EVP at normal speed and we'll discuss and I'll play it again. That's really

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great. Heat. Heat. I want to go home. Except I am home. Isn't that

What the [ __ ] is that? Okay. Wait. You know what? I know you gave all the context and everything about like the building and murder and

things like that, but the entire time

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my brain was just envisioning like that this is somewhere whether you want to say it's heaven or hell, but like somewhere that like these other beings and entities are like I was almost picturing this like big ornate like chapel with like an indoor pool like like a bath house. I'm picturing a bath house with like

like basically like angels like talking and like arguing together.

I wish that were the case

cuz angels are also really scary sometimes.

They are. What do you like from that? Do you want me to play the slowed down version and then we'll discuss?

Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I couldn't. Can you actually make out what people are saying?

I can. So the slowed down version I pulled out like the specific moments that there is

talking.

Talking. Okay.

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The water is the craziest thing to me.

The water is so clear.

Do you hear anything?

I thought that the Well, you can't make out what the male voice is saying. The like, if you can call it male,

demonic.

Yeah.

Yeah. But the female voice sounded like it was saying, "I can't breathe. Can't breathe. Can't breathe." That's exactly what people hear. And again, like people don't know any of the context of like who these spirits are, but they believe they are hearing a child

being drowned.

My god, my heart is like racing listening to that. It feels wrong. So,

oh my god,

in the Artbell conversation on Coast to Coast, they all discuss and what they believe they heard was a child crying out, "I can't breathe." multiple times. Then there's this menacing darker, deeper voice saying, "People don't know." Like a couple people on Reddit

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were theorizing and some were saying, "I hear murder." Either way, it's like a really dark

almost like demonic sounding voice. It's not pleasant. And then there's splashing of water, which is what leads them to believe like they can't breathe. Like is someone drowning a child and they're saying I can't breathe. The splashing of the water is truly cuz there's no water in this building. And also never at any point

so clear. It's like someone's sitting next to a pool,

right?

But it sounds like an indoor pool. Like it sounds like you can hear the echoes. It's like when you go to like

swim laps at like the gym's pool.

Yeah, it does very much sound like a pool. hear. Yes. The sound reverberating off of the walls and the ceiling.

There was no water in this building at the time. So, this is not like kids messing around splashing on the water. And even if it were, like that doesn't sound like this exists in our realm. This is something that is like either residual or just like I hope it's residual to be honest. Like I hope it's just like weird

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leftover like energy. But there was never at any point

a pool like that. There was a well in the basement. Oh,

but this is an office.

Yeah.

In like commerce building.

Maybe there was like a bath or something. I don't know. In some in one of the offices

because it is like the splashing is kind of slow. Like it doesn't sound like someone's like thrashing for their life in it. But also the voice saying can't breathe already sounds really defeated.

Yeah.

Like really weak.

Right. It almost sounds like you're hearing the thoughts of the child as they're being drowned because if you're not to get into like the really gruesome details, but like Yeah. Like as they're fading away in that residual moment.

I want to put that audio into the different like editing softwares we have.

Yeah.

And see if we can make out what the darker voice is saying.

Okay. Well, let's listen to I'll I'll

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play the slow down version again so that everyone can really listen now that we've talked about it. It sounds like the child is saying, "I can't breathe." multiple times.

Then you hear the demonic voice and then you hear the water splashing. Oh, you know what? It just made me think

what

kind of like what you were saying with like it could be the child's thoughts. The what if the demonic voice isn't a like truly demonic voice at all? Like what if this is the child's like memory? like you're seeing their vision as they're losing oxygen and they're saying can't breathe and it sounds like it's echoing and then all the voices get distorted and low and stuff and it's just like you hear the water splashing around you as you're losing consciousness

just cuz I have fainted many times and

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like voices dot

distorted yeah

as as you start going down

I mean I prefer that over a demon I mean the whole situation

if the person was either witnessing someone drown or drowning them you can say that they are pretty

demonic Anyway, but

isn't that isn't that like

that's that's I would never go back there. Like that is so scary.

It's a full minute long MVP. [laughter]

Hold on to your clavicle.

Clutch your clavicle. [laughter]

Clavicle.

So that is really terrifying.

Yeah, I

I'm with you on that's the water piece is just like

right

that adds so much to it.

So much. And I don't think I've ever heard like an EVP like that.

No,

it's usually just a voice.

Yeah.

But it really does make me feel like it almost puts into perspective a residual haunting in a different way where it's like even if everything has changed

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about a space, the residual energy like lives there. Like that means like that space that it was back at the time of the incident

still exists. Mh. Okay. I promise my next one's a

spirit doesn't like him EVP

little bit more uplifting. Well, it's not like necessarily uplifting, but it did. It made me chuckle.

What a hard pivot from potentially [laughter] hearing a child drown.

Yeah. Sorry. This EVP was posted one year ago on again Reddit Ghost by someone named Quail Main957 and it was titled Caught an EVP. Do you hear what I hear?

Do you hear what I hear? as context. It was recorded at the Martha Washington Inn in the ballroom. I hear something very clear, but I couldn't really So, I'll play it.

Okay.

And um on Reddit, this is like a video of them sitting in the ballroom replaying the audio on the recorder,

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but this is I'm just playing the audio for everyone. I cannot make out what is being said.

Okay. In the next here, I'll I'll play it again. So, I tried to remove like background noise to try to make it a little bit clearer. Let's see.

Get down from there. I hear get down from there. Go something something like the other way or something like that.

Okay. I heard go away for the second one, but it's like go away by something. Like there's pieces of it that I can't hear.

Okay, so I I vote get down from there. Go the other way.

I heard clear as day. Jake's an [ __ ] [laughter]

Wow, what a different interpretation.

And the hard thing is that so I don't

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like post or comment on Reddit. I kind of just lurk. So, I don't know if this is a normal thing, but people who were trying to post what they heard like it kept getting deleted. So, I do think like people were hearing a curse word. Oh. Um, but

wait, now I'll play it again.

Yeah.

So, I can try to hear yours. I'm having the like Yanni Laurel thing where like the first time I heard what you heard and then the second time it like went back to what I was hearing

that cuz I don't hear get down from there. But I think also because I like have listened to it so many times.

You have in your mind what you heard.

But yeah, so let us know what you think. I don't know what the original poster's name is,

but I but of course like in my mind I created a whole story of like what if his name is Jake and he pissed off the ghost. [laughter] Jake's an [ __ ] Go away. Mary Washington is back from the

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dead pissed at Jake. Get the [ __ ] out of my hotel.

Whoever Jake is seems like the spirit does not like him.

Yeah. But then it does sound like go by something like here. Let's play that again. [snorts]

It's [snorts] hard the second words. Like I'm not committed to go the other way, but I'm committed to go. Go. Something something.

Well, you did hear away and I heard away. We both heard go one more time.

What?

Will you play it one more time? I I really want to know. That's the hard thing about this. It's like we can't have confirmation

or like go get gray. Oh, interesting. Okay. [snorts] Go get Chris. [snorts] It kind of does feel like go get and then I don't know. What do other

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people think?

Jake's an [ __ ] Go get Chris.

Go [laughter] get Chris. I mean, I also didn't do a ton of research into the history of the Martha Washington in and like the hauntings and stuff. So, like maybe that means I had to do another episode and see if there are people named Jake and Chris in that story. Maybe one of you know. Anyway, let us know what you hear that like the whole point of this is we want to hear what you hear too,

right?

Um, and that's the hard part about EVPs is like you don't get to interview the person who said something and you're like, "Wait, come again. What did you say? What was this? Didn't catch it."

Exactly. And then sometimes when you listen to them over and over, you start to like hear random things.

Hear something else. Yeah.

Yeah.

I have a EVP that I'll play at the very end from a listener where what she heard like now when I listen to it, I feel like I hear what she hears. But the first time I listened to it without reading what she interpreted, I heard something else. So I'll share that at the end.

That was the thing is like I was trying to not read what people heard before I listened.

Yeah.

But it's hard. And then also, I don't know if other people have this, but like

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looking at my computer screen while listening is actually more distracting. Like I feel like I need to like close my eyes to listen.

And that's why I was going like this. I know it was a video podcast and that probably wasn't the best way to just [laughter] stare at the ceiling.

Um, how do you listen to EVPs?

dairy ranch EVP

Okay, so this next one was posted 9 years ago by the user Jack_Shid in Reddit Paranormal Forum in response to a poster who asked, "Anyone who has captured their own EVP recordings, can you share them?" Jack posted this EVP with no context beyond saying, "This was recorded outdoors in a park. I am a 49year-old male with a very deep voice. There wasn't anyone around for miles from where I was. I was completely alone." After various responses, Jack did then post an update, but I'll share that after we play it. Okay, so this is the normal speed.

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Coming back,

right? It sounds like something coming back.

Yeah, he's coming back.

Okay, now slow down and isolated. I like how I'm using like isolated as like a techy term, but I don't know what the [ __ ] I did. I just said like clean up this audio. I hear [ __ ] and then a cough. He's coming back. Oh, interesting. Like [ __ ] he's coming back.

I definitely hear someone like something coming back. Okay, so Jack updated the post twice. So he first added that he wasn't claiming

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it was a ghost for sure, but it was unexplained and he was very much alone when he got this recording.

His second update was this. He shared that the location where this was recorded was a dairy ranch in the late 1800s to the early 1900s. History says the rancher was having an affair and the rancher's wife killed him and his mistress and then took her own life. The recording that he captured was taken in the place where this farmhouse once stood.

Oh, dang.

A lot of people on Reddit seem to think it sounded like a younger male saying, "I don't think he's coming back." Others heard, "She's coming back." And then the original poster, Jack heard, "Hello, hang on. Someone's coming back." So again, I'll play it. Yeah, that's interesting because like when I was thinking that I was hearing

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the cough,

it was to me like a second person coughing.

Interesting.

Like the one person says [ __ ] like person A says [ __ ] in my mind.

Yeah.

Person B coughs and then person A said he's coming back or she's coming back or something.

Interesting. Okay, let's play. Which if it was the like affair or something and then the the mistress is saying something he's coughing and then

she's coming back.

She's coming back. Yeah. Interesting.

Like it's like almost like a clearing of the throat, I think.

Or like Adam. What's his name? Adam.

You're pulling a lot of names.

Yeah. I mean, I definitely hear coming back.

Yeah. Which Yeah. Like you're saying, it could be like the moment of like, oh [ __ ] she's coming back.

Mhm.

What do you hear? It's so hard, but it's also very, very fun.

I know. H.

Gettysburg soldiers video

Okay.

I could do this all day.

I know. Okay. Well, the next one. So, I tried to keep this like mostly EVP so that everyone who's listening to can can play along and hear and not be like, "Oh

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my god, every single one of these is a video that I have to see."

I wasn't as nice for the listener stories at the end. [laughter]

I tried to be nice, but this there was one that I was like, "Okay, this is a video I need to play." So, this is for those of you who love Gettysburg and Ghost Caught on camera. This was pretty much mentioned on every single Reddit thread where I was where people were asking like what's the most convincing piece of evidence.

It was also all over YouTube and the internet. So, people have probably seen this, but as context, back in 2001, a family was in Gettysburg on a Civil War battlefield tour. I'm not really sure of much more context, but in this video, it sounds like there are two people in the family sitting out in a field in Gettysburg at night when they caught something very strange at the edge of the woods. I'll play it and then we can discuss. And I do recommend coming over to YouTube to watch this, but if you don't, we will put it on social media so you can see it there. But if you're listening, you can also hear the commentary of the two people.

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Don't move in there now. There's a motorcycle. See?

I don't see nothing down there. Can't be the motorcycles, honey.

There's another sparkle. You see what I'm saying?

What is that?

What is that

tree?

No, you moved it, right? Right there. See?

Uhhuh.

Look.

There's nobody there. Where? I can't see.

Look.

Is it the people?

Can't be.

There's nobody.

Not up in the trees.

There's nobody down there no more. See

the fact that there's a kid too there like making commentary. I have seen this

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before and it it shows people like it appears that they're like marching back and forth but when they when they go forth it looks like they're up on like a ledge like a different level.

Yeah. But it almost looks like they're ducking under. So there's a rock in the video on the like left side of the frame and it almost looks like the idea is that perhaps it's like the Gettysburg soldiers and like spirits like repeating like a march or movement of some type of thing that they did. And it reminds me a lot of like the Hawaiian night marchers. But there's a rock at the bottom left of the frame and it almost looks like there are multiple beings ducking under something going right and that's where they like stand it back up which is why they're taller.

Oh,

and they're like going through like a march and it almost makes me think like was there a tree there and they had to like duck under a branch and go around it to do their

right

to go in their path. Either way, it's so like distorted because you can hear the guy in the video saying like up in the trees cuz like right now,

right,

the way that the terrain is is it's just

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trees. So like when you see them coming back like they're suddenly like

8t in the air

appearing to walk back.

Yeah. It's wild. And and I can't tell.

It's just like you could do 400 episodes on Gettysburg.

I know. We should do at least one cuz I feel

Have we never done one? We covered it briefly with um National Park,

but we haven't really dug into it cuz I think it's overwhelming. There's so many places.

Yeah.

And it's not just the battlefield. Like Gettysburg is a whole entire town. You can like every historic building has its own story and hauntings.

There's so Yeah. My friend Greg Oh, that reminds I was going to say my friend Greg has also experienced a bunch that I think like we've read his email.

Yeah. which just reminded me I owe him a text back too. [laughter]

How many unread are you at right now?

I'll tell you, but it's not truly how many have not been responded to cuz I did the

the mark as unread.

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The I marked everything as red when I got overwhelmed. It says I have 70, but the true answer is probably like 200.

Yeah, but since you last marked all as red

since I last marked. Yep.

Let's see. How many do I have?

I'll never feel bad about myself.

I have unread. That's a lot for you. You were

I don't have a child. So, so

our friend Chase has like thousands though, so I don't feel that bad because

Chase has more.

He also has thousands of friends, so that makes sense.

And works in like the entertainment business and is like on the go all the time.

Yeah,

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Sallie House EVP

Okay, the last piece of evidence I have. Well, I guess it has like multiple pieces of evidence in this is from one of the most haunted places. Like if you Google the most haunted places in the United States, this is on every single list. It is a place that you and I have talked about on the podcast early days.

Ooh. It is the Sally House.

Oh. So, one of like my tactics when I was searching for evidence was I wanted to find like generic evidence. Like I kind of like the everything I've shared before this, but then after the Gettysburg video, I was like, "Oh, like let me look up specific haunted places." Cuz you know, Waverly Hills, people get countless pieces of evidence. The Queen Mary, people get countless pieces of ev evidence.

And then I searched the Sally House and I found this and I was like, "Yes, please." So the Sally House is in Achinson, Kansas. Sorry if I said that wrong. And I initially covered on episode 7. I was going to say, I remember you covering it.

Yeah. Early days. I get the Sally house and the Whe confused sometimes. Like I

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don't actually remember what happened separately in either of them

family living there. The Sally house is pretty tragic.

Axes, right?

No.

Murders.

Uh deaths.

I'll give you context.

Okay. Yeah. I can't remember.

That's why I was like I'm just going to give brief context and not go too in depth. But if you want to listen to that whole episode, it's episode 7. It is an infamously haunted house. It became wellknown in the early 1990s when a young couple Tony and Deborah Pikman moved in and almost immediately they started to experience hauntings. They were like very benign at first, just like doors opening and closing, lights turning on and off, small things, objects moving on their own. But then they very quickly escalated and they became terrorized by an entity that they started nicknaming Sally. It escalated to physical attacks specifically targeted at Tony, the husband. And through investigation and research, people have come to believe that the spirit is of a young girl named Sally,

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who died during a surgery performed by the original owner of the home, Dr. Charles Finny, that she had a bad case of appendicitis. He tried to perform surgery on her, like the family brought this girl over like late in the night. He tried to perform surgery on her on like the dining room table. Unfortunately, she passed away. There are no records of this girl, Sally. But based on like paranormal investigations and conversations with this spirit, people believe it's a little girl named Sally. People bring toys to the house. But here's a twist. Why would a little girl be attacking a man? Why would this little girl be scratching and having demonic growling voices? And people believe that Sally is not a little girl at all, but a demon. There's also like my belief and I don't know if we talked about this in episode seven, but I feel like the little girl spirit probably does exist because there are moments of like child like like playfulness.

Yeah.

But then there's something evil that has

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come into that space cuz there were a lot of like medical perform like things happening there,

right? Yeah.

Unknown history, but like was it such a traumatic death that it opened up the space for a demonic entity? And then also the amount of people and PE like energy that has been like thrown onto this house in the years,

right? Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.

Maybe something festered.

A lot of things could start out as something and then evolve to something else just given how much

right

extra energy people are bringing in and putting towards a home.

Exactly. So this brings us to our evidence. That's just like tiny background. Basically over the years so many people now have gone to investigate, do paranormal investigations. There have been a lot of EVPs, a lot of photos of people being like physically attacked

and getting like marks on their body. And this brings us to 2012 live sci-fi investigated the Sally House. This is a team of investigators led by Tim Wood that conduct live interactive paranormal investigations

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with spirit communication, Ouija boards, rituals, all to verify and document not paranormal activity, demonic activity [ __ ] [snorts] And I think Tim Wood and Live Sci-Fi have like tons of reality TV shows and like paranormal shows. Whenever we're about to like see or hear something that is thought to be demonic, it always crosses my mind like should we not be listening to this? Is this summoning it? And I give you no choice.

I think we set intentions. I probably shouldn't have said this in the beginning of the episode. Maybe don't listen while driving. I don't think this episode will be haunted.

I feel like it won't be.

I'm being so fun about it. Like I'm we're we're just fun.

Two ghouls sitting and talking. [snorts] Ghost stories and girl talk. [laughter] Um, call back to when we said we weren't gonna say the name of that YouTube video channel.

The traitors. The traitors. Okay, so this group, no surprise, went to investigate the Sally House in April of 2012. This video was posted on YouTube on January 4th, 2013. And I'm

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only pulling like two pieces of evidence from that clip. There's a link to the original video in the show notes if you want to watch the whole thing. There are some really scary EVPs that were recorded while in the Sally house, specifically in the basement, but they did catch a lot of different other EVPs. Some of them were using the Frank's box, and I feel like playing Frank's box or spirit box tapes on audio is really like disorienting, so I chose the non Franksbox ones. Oh, I did put a disclaimer here. The following clips are believed to contain the voice of a demonic presence. Listen with caution or don't listen if you're too scared. Chicken [ __ ] [laughter] Fighting words. The first one was recorded in the basement of the Sally house. It is immediately after the investigator asked, "Do you believe in God?" And I'll play the response that they got.

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I hear

he's up up there.

Oh, okay. I hear no help there.

Oh, okay. Will he play it again?

Yeah.

Or not up there.

He's not up there.

He's not up there. He's down here. But it's interesting because it's like in response to do you believe in God?

The no help there makes sense in the context of like haha good luck like you think he's going to help you

right

but also not up there also makes sense.

Yep.

It is mocking the Either way. It feels like it's mocking the idea of

like Yeah. It feels like okay well if he does exist he's so far away from you and I right here right now. You and I, buddy, alone in the basement clutching

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my sweatshirt.

Clutch your clavicle again.

Clutch your clavicle. I had to I had to fix his bones. They were coming apart.

I know. Put them back together. We've said it before, but one time he had a full body. He was sitting here. Doors were closed. Came in a couple months later. He had been dismembered.

Yes, he had. Maybe he's like, "Hey, you guys, I'm supposed to be a ghost, not a skeleton. [laughter] You're misrepresenting [clears throat] my body."

Or he's like, "I don't want to live here. Let me let me give my other half to Sabrina. She can [laughter] bring it home with her.

Okay. So, now the second EVP also took place in the basement. In the EVP, you will hear the investigator ask, "Is this how you show up? By inflicting pain?" And then this is what

is this? How you show love by inflicting pain? Okay, now I'm hearing something very

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different than I heard last time. I kind of don't think it's an EVP. I think it's just a noise. But if I was the whisper forced to declare this a voice, I would say it's saying you think.

Okay, I heard sick. But now I'm hearing sexy. I still hear you think. Yeah, I think

I also heard Nick, but I think I was like hearing like

you keep pulling names. Every single EVP are hearing ick. Like an ick. Like you said, think sick Nick. Like

Yeah, there's like a

there's something with a K.

Yeah.

But then at the end of the video, I was curious cuz I was like, was there a Nick on the investigation or did it say neck or something? You know, because at the end of the video, they show a photo. As they're wrapping up the investigation, an investigator felt a and again like they never say the name of the investigator just says like an investigator felt a burning sensation on his neck and then in the video they show

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a photo and it's like very clearly three scratch marks down the back of his neck and they're like very very

red and clear and I was like is there a connection or am I trying to find a connection when there is none but yeah they contacted a dark entity in the basement of the Sally House. [sighs] [gasps] Man, makes me think of when we were at the Lizzie Bordon house and what was the entity's name who kept calling us [ __ ] Carl.

Oh, yeah. Carl.

Yeah.

Well, he didn't declare himself Carl. The h the the people working there

called him Carl.

Yeah. Cuz he's not a real human entity. He's like a

No. not as a demonic, but like something something that was created from all the other energy.

I think one of the most fun moments for me at the Lizzie Bordon house was so we were like downstairs. It was scary. Carl kept calling us [ __ ] [laughter] and then we like moved locations and finally closer to the end of the night

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when we were up in the in the like third floor hanging out with the kids and it was so great and they were so interactive and they were like calling out things like reading goodn night moon and they were saying like night and horse and snake and like all the things we were playing with and then suddenly they were like door he's coming right there look don't go and then all of a sudden it was like [ __ ] [ __ ] and we're like god damn it Carl found us got to ruin our fun time with the kids.

He came all the way up from the basement

to call us [ __ ]

He had to go like three or four flights of stairs just to call us [ __ ]

Thanks, Carl.

Call him as you see him, Carl. [laughter]

Actually, you know what? I got hit on the other night.

You did?

Why am I saying you did? Like, I'm not surprised.

Well, okay. So, I It was Valentine's Day and

Wow, what a romantic day we hit on.

I decided Well, okay. So, I'm trying to be

like, did you go to a club? I meant to ask you this. Okay. So, I'm trying to be more fun and like do you

I thought I was hallucinating when I saw your your Instagram story.

I literally [laughter] I lit Let me tell you. So, I So, my friend Madison and a

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bunch of her girlfriends were going to go to Leica in Cambridge for Valentine's Day. Like they're like, "Oh, like it's a fun Latin like club. Let's go drink and dance." Then I go, "Okay, what time are we meeting?" And Madison's like, "I think we're going to go there at 1000 p.m." I nearly lost my [ __ ] [clears throat] And Madison's like, "Please come. Like, you can't back out." And I was like, "I need to

10 p.m. like 10 p.m. invite me over at 7 to start pregaming cuz if I'm not already out of the house, then it's not going to I'm not going to get there."

Exactly my point. So, they're like, "Okay, we're going to meet at this girl's house who lived in Cambridge at 9:00 p.m. I

That's so late.

It's so late. I got ready at 7:00. I was ready by 7:30 and I was like, if I have to sit here for another two and a half hours before we go out, I will not make it out.

Yeah.

So, I decided, you know what? I I'm going to go get myself a cocktail at a bar down the street from where we're

I love that. So, I walked to this place

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in Cambridge and I sat at the bar, got a massive thing of nachos and ordered a 818 tequila on the rocks and I just sat there and I listened to an

audio pregame for your Latin club.

Exactly. And I listened to um Janette Mccertie's new audio book.

Oh, I haven't I loved her first one.

So, this is a fiction.

It's a fiction.

It's I was I went into it thinking full on it was going to be a memoir and uh it is fiction. It's like a It's called Half His Age and it's a kind of sexy but sad, disturbing novel.

Well, it's probably like fiction, but

probably inspired by something

inspired by some things in her life and probably a lot of

I listened to I'm glad my mother is dead before listening to this one.

Is her writing style?

It's very similar. I think that's why it I was confused,

but yes, it's fiction. I was sitting at the bar listening to it and just enjoying my nachos. Curling was on because it's the Olympics on the TV in front of me. Madison finally texts me at 9:00 p.m. is like, "We're almost at my

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friends." And I was like, "Oh my god, like this is crazy. I can't believe I'm still awake." But so I'm like, "Okay, I'm gonna close out." I ask for my check and I pay it. And all of a sudden, I feel someone behind me, this man, and

an entity, [laughter]

this presence, unwelcomed entity. I was like, "Ah, what do you want from me?" Um, but he hit on me and was like, "Hey, I just wanted to come over and say like, you're really beautiful. You like my male voice?

I love working." Yeah. Drooling. [laughter]

No, it was very kind. It was a very kind interaction. It was flattering, but I was like, I am not. I'm so like, "Thank you, but I have no interest in dating. Um, have a great night." And then the table behind me because this is Valentine's Day, [clears throat]

right? And also like you're alone getting a cocktail or something like you know other guys who have interest are probably like oh this is

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a single lady.

This is a like great like she's out she's

maybe outside of my apartment does not mean I want

but it was on a particular day.

Yes. Fair. But okay. So then the couple behind me approached me and they're like were you just hit on? And they were like, "We haven't been out in 8 months. We had a kid and this is our first date night out and you just made our night so [laughter] exciting." And I was like, "I'm so happy to entertain.

I'm so glad I could be your entertainment." But yeah. So,

did it make you feel good? Did it give you a little bit of energy before your Latin club experience?

Um, no. I mean, of course, it's like flattering, but like I I'm not like I am in the phase of my breakup where I have no desire to date. like I am like so

emotionally still like attached in that way that like I couldn't do that and I don't want to.

I'm focusing on me, baby. Going to eat my nachos while listening to books on audio. Um, [clears throat]

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but then we went to La Fabria and I left within 10 minutes cuz it was too late. [laughter] So, I took a video of our feet dancing. And I will say it's one thing like someone approaching you at the bar I'm less bothered by because it was a casual like like people weren't getting drunk and rowdy.

The men at La Fabria were like predators.

Oh, really?

You would be dancing and keep in mind I was there I was there maybe 20 minutes. Madison said she was proud of me. But like you we it was like eight of us girls. We're all like dancing doing our thing

and it was like a horror movie. You would see a man like at the bar staring at you. You'd look away. You keep dancing. Next time you look back, he's three feet closer.

You look away, you look back, he's like behind you. It's like a like when a cat is like lurking, like hunting.

Yeah. Do you hear ringing right now?

Yeah. I thought it was just my ears. You know what? I was just making sure that I

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I we both were hearing and it wasn't like a psychic hit because now I'm obviously a psychic. No, I'm not. Um

Oh, you know what? There are people working in my basement. [clears throat]

It might be like a drill or something. Yeah,

there's always [laughter] people in my basement.

It's true.

Also, can I just say like one thing which is cuz I got a lot of responses on Instagram when we had the snowstorm which was now like a month ago in Boston. We had like I don't know two views now.

Yeah. We got like at my house I got like 40 plus inches with

plowed by 40 in.

I got plowed by 40 in over like a two week span

when it was super cold and nothing was melting. We had one warm day and then I got like snap cold again. We got ice dams. So for everyone who's like that's so magical. Oh my gosh, I wish I was there. That's so beautiful. It makes me wish I lived back east again. We have to have someone come check every single exterior wall in our house for water damage because water was pouring inside of one of our rooms. And we have

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evidence in a couple more rooms because the ice froze on our roof down the siding of our house and all in our gutters and then backed up and started going into our house. So, I think I might have to move out of the house potentially if the water's like super bad because they're gonna have to take apart the walls. Just because something's pretty on the internet doesn't mean living it [laughter] so great.

Yeah.

Do you have more?

No, that's it.

Okay. I have I have evidence.

It's your turn.

listener stories with evidence

This isn't my turn like in terms of presenting evidence, but um

from a listener.

Yes, I have two listener stories. This is from our listener Sarah who is quite a few stories. Um, I'll read some of her other stories in a in a different episode, but specifically wanted to share it's a video, but you don't need to watch the video because really it's just an EVP.

Okay.

From uh the Vanderbilt mansion.

Okay. It was the end of summer in 2016. I was on the final vacation of my farewell tour before college, and

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Snapchat memories had just been released. My friend at the time, her family, and I were spending the weekend in Newport, touring the old mansions and eating the best New England clam chowder.

It was early in the morning and we had pulled up to the ticket line to purchase ground tours of the Vanderbilt mansion. I was in total awe and I told her I wanted to take a video of the grounds. I was super excited that I could take loads of photos and videos and not take up any of my phone storage because of Snapchat. So the entire trip was documented thoroughly via Snapchat. Of course, the day was wonderful. The tour was insane. The charter was a flowin. And that night, we went back to our hotel room and I [clears throat] was perusing my footage when I got to the very bottom of the album and I clicked on the grounds video that I had taken that morning and I noticed a whisper during the last second of the video. I sat straight up in my bed, put my headphones in. That was a [ __ ] whisper. Luckily, my friend's dad is an audio engineer, and he immediately

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listened to the video to see if it truly was a separate sound from the wind, which he confirmed, and said that he couldn't even render the audio because the wind seemed to silence when the voice spoke.

Oh. Ooh, that gives me the chilly.

So, here's the video. I also have a photo of a potential ghost, but I have no clue where it is. If I find it, I will add it. Stay tuned for the update. And then I'll tell you what Sarah heard after.

Yeah. After we listen. We listen. Okay. Ready? Closing my eyes.

Wait, will you play it again?

Yeah. I hear like deny or like

I hear deny and then episode like there's a lot of words but then like episode.

Oh, interesting. Okay. Sarah heard I

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died in this house.

Oh, let me replay it. I when I first listened I heard I died for my sins.

Oh [ __ ]

And now listening I hear I die for this.

Okay. Play it again.

The I keep hearing like episode at the end or like deny for Okay. Wait. I wonder. Okay,

I die [clears throat] at the end of the episode. Spoiler. That's what I'm hearing.

Well, let us know what you guys hear. That's from Sarah. I'll read some other stuff from Sarah another time.

I mean, that is really spooky. Just like clearly there's an entity right next to Sarah. Like right there. I mean, also speaking of like doing a whole episode about Gettysburg and like how impossible that would be because it's like there's

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so many hauntings. I feel like the old houses of Newport, like each house could have its own Yeah, they're not houses, they're mansions. [laughter]

They're real.

Um they like each of them could have their own episode because they have

so much history and also like there is a lot of history of like poor treatment of slaves and

yeah,

even just like the staff members too. It's wild. bad things that happened there and just of course hauntings.

The Vanderbilt mansion. I went a couple years ago and it is just crazy hearing how much money they spent and like knowing that they were outspending themselves and they were still like whatever, I don't care. I'm trying to be flashy. Like that was [laughter]

it was kind of wild.

Um, okay. So, I have another email to share. This is from our listener Annette. Hello, spooktacularly wonderful ladies. So that was a hard word to spooktacularly.

It's a lot of questioning myself as I

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was reading it.

Yeah,

I'm Annette. You can use my name because I don't give a [ __ ] [laughter]

Energy through morbid and I have been hooked.

I've always been able to feel what other people are feeling and over the years I figured that I am an empath and some people might think that that would be so awesome or whatever, but I don't think that. [laughter] Some people I don't feel

some people I don't feel anything from until I've spent a lot of time with them. Most people though seem to be screaming with what they feel at me.

Oh no,

it's so overwhelming.

I need to be able to turn it off and have some kind of control. I cannot be in crowded places because of this and I feel it all comes at me and it's just all too much and I will have panic attacks. I'll feel drained of energy and for the longest time I had horrible migraines. In 2015, I was referred to a neurologist when my left arm and hand went numb and the ER assured me that I wasn't having a stroke. I was diagnosed with MS, but luckily that man cared enough about my migraines to try me on different meds. And finally, a year ago,

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we found one that works.

Oh, good. I'm sorry. I've never told anyone in my family about being an empath, so I'm sure my daughter who listens will have some questions when she hears this. They do know about this photo, though. I shared it on Facebook a while back. This photo is of a cousin through marriage. We'll call him Jay. We hung out a lot and he would come stay with us or we would go visit my husband's grandparents and we would say and we would see Jay there. The grandparents had custody of Jay and they were more like his parents until Mama D passed. She had cancer and lost the battle.

It upset us all. She was such a wonderful lady. Even more upsetting was that Gramps then kicked Jay out like he was just this unwanted pest. Even though my marriage into that family didn't last, he was still family and actually is family to my daughters. So, I ended up taking him in. Now, this photo was taken over 20 years ago, and shortly after, Mama D had passed. We were just chilling in his aunt's house at her

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pool. Now, at the end of her time there, the [clears throat] meds that D was on made her face really puffy and swollen. When I snapped this photo, Jay was the only person in the pool. When I looked back at the photos on the SD card, I cried. I freaked the [ __ ] out. And then I cried again because I surely did not expect to see D in the pool behind him.

Oh my gosh.

Lots of love and good energy from Annette. [gasps] Oh my gosh,

it is so clear. Like she's just on the other side of the pool like wandering around. Her hair looks wet like she'd been underwater. Yeah. Like is she swimming in the pool? Yeah, she's just there swimming. Wait, this is wild. She's still hanging out with the family and with her like essentially son.

It's also interesting cuz like I can't tell if when you're looking at the photo, the face of the spirit is very white. Like almost like a ghost white, you know?

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Yeah. I can't tell if it's that's how she's appearing or if it's the light in the world that's kind of exposure cuz like if you look at the left hand side of like the the water and then if you look at Jay just like his chest where the sun is hitting him it's like blown out

it does make it even more haunting.

It makes it more haunting.

Yeah. Damn. Wow. I love paranormal evidence.

Mhm.

That is

so wild.

Juicy stuff. Um, if you have your own paranormal evidence, please share it with us. Or if you have caught EVPs, we want like we want to hear them and we will do an encounters episode. I mean, we have like people have emailed us, but if you have not emailed us yet, this is your sign. The universe is calling to you. The universe is sending you this message. It's not us. It's the universe. It's not us begging you for your paranormal evidence. Um, but yeah, email us at two girlsodcast@gmail.com. Uh, what else? Love us.

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Speaking of EVPs and whatnot, if you do join our Patreon,

years ago, there was a very convincing EVP that someone sent us of potentially an alien abduction

captured on someone's phone that was in their pocket.

You can find that on our Patreon.

The whole video is on there. Actually, let's see. How do you How is it labeled that people can search it?

I think if you just search alien EVP

Oh, yeah. Alien videos from encounters 114. The whole two long things are posted for you to be spooked out by. They are very spooky. Good memory. Good reminder. Now I want to relisten to this. [laughter]

I was thinking of it in the very first story that you shared from Reddit with like the noise of the water and everything cuz I was like, "Okay, well, we also have heard one that's like kind of convincing for like

being dropped onto the ground and like the worring of a space of the leaves, everything." Yeah. Yeah. So, join us on Patreon. Also, rate and review us, subscribe on YouTube, like us, share

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