Growing Up Haunted | Corinne’s Demons, Ghosts & Shadow People (Ep 207)

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very spooky hi hello welcome this is two girls one ghost oh well that's Korean I'm Sabrina hi this is a very special episode of two girls one ghost because it's not like our ordinary episodes usually we research something or we read your encounters but remember how Karen and I are haunted and how we bonded over the fact that we were raised in haunted homes or around the Paranormal yes this is part one of

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our personal encounters that is true we thought skip the research look within figure out what happened in our past to bring us here yeah and so we're gonna tell you all of our ghost stories or in this episode is probably like 15 I'm so wild and it's so interesting because I feel like over the years you've told me and our listeners some of these stories but every time you go to tell a story of yours I'm like I have not heard this one and how have I not heard this one yet the fact that we've been doing it for five and a half years and I'm still learning new things about you is our new hauntings about you and new things about you new paintings incredible and terrifying I mean I it is terrifying I think too the thing with hauntings and growing up in a haunted houses there's just so many things that are little so you're like oh well I don't oh I'm all over the place already which is not a

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good sign for this episode but yes so like my point being is when you grow up in a haunted house I feel like there's just an accumulation of a little hauntings that happen and they don't feel significant enough to tell people and so I feel like in the past my experiences that I have told on other podcasts or told to you or or throughout the history of ours have really just been a mean few and so I'll probably retell versions versions of short shorthand versions of those today but I did try to mark down in chronological order some of the larger things that okay happened and mix in a few little things as well okay I feel like this is your life story like if you were to write an autobiography or a memoir it would be this episode you know what I'm upset with myself about is that in high school I think it was my freshman or sophomore year I'm about to sneeze which is why I'm making these weird faces it was freshman our sophomore year of high school I got like

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a black book that was really really thick and it had lined paper on the inside and I was like I'm gonna start writing down every single experience that I have and every step that I take to like discover my spirituality and so I probably wrote in that thing for a year and then of course I'm the person who goes through and if I don't finish a project I like dump it and throw it out yeah probably like Korean sometime in college I went in and was like oh I don't need this anymore I clearly never stuck with it and then tossed it I'm so sad I know it's sitting in like a waste facility somewhere ugh it has so much potential I wish you couldn't I wish you could look at like when you're going through old clothes or old memorabilia whatever it may be nostalgic things from your childhood you could touch it and it will signal to you if

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this will be important in your life later zap it back in you yeah maybe that's just maybe some homework for myself where I'll sit down one day and try to like truly write out everything that I can remember in chronological order and then maybe I'll just like say from here on all the stories aren't from my memory but will have happened essentially live like I'll jot things down as soon as they happen yeah but we'll see I guess our podcast our podcast is that for a lot of people where they just keep replying in the email thread and we get to see the the different things that happen to them wherever they end up living and and all of the hauntings they accumulate over time but yeah for this episode I'm gonna

Early childhood hauntings

start in a time that I can't remember which is when I was born so these are page zero age in the womb oh even before you were

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born yeah okay literally in the womb okay let's get going let's do it okay so I I have notes because I was like I don't want to jump around too much I have to do this in a chronological order all right so when my parents were pregnant with me they lived in Guilford New Hampshire which is by if you know the geography of New England at all Guilford New Hampshire is one of the towns that borders on Lake Winnipesaukee which is like a giant Lake and my family's had some crazy experiences there too but they they lived in this smaller house it was the first home that they purchased and they were pregnant with me in this home I think it was like a two bedroom or something and so when I was born basically like as soon as I started to exit the phase of just being like a little blob of a baby and started having a little bit more like interaction with the things around me I was interacting with someone else like there there was always someone over my parents shoulder or someone in the corner of the room or

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someone that I was like looking at and smiling at and laughing at and like pooing at so whoever this was they were a a good spirit we can presume because I was really enjoying their presence okay go ahead I was gonna say don't you just wish you could remember all of that and oh my God I know who I do wish that yeah and so I think my parents thought that it was the spirit that lived in their house because there was an older man who they would hear Apple actually let me back up we've never actually had confirmation that it was truly an older man I don't think they ever saw this person but they just got the energy and like the feeling right of it being this older man in their home and this man in our home in Guilford would flicker the lights he would turn it on and off he would flush the toilet in the middle of the night he would whistle and

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just wander around so they would just like hear him whistling through the halls and then he would also sometimes open the front door and leave or like come back in and so my parents would but he leaves it I guess like yeah my mom said that she would have to like go and close the door when he would leave yes sir I don't think it happened a ton but like enough where you know right especially if you're like home alone with a newborn baby that's kind of yeah concerning so we kind of thought that it might be the spirit that I was interacting with and it could be but there's no confirmation of that and then another thing that I would kind of like to think is it it my dad's dad passed away when he was in Middle School um and my cousins some of my cousins are a lot younger than me and one of them did uh basically confirm unknowingly that his Spirit was going and seeing her so when she was really little she would talk about that's this guy that would

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see her and then looking through old photos she pointed at my grandpa Robert and was basically like oh that's the man that visits me at night so and so it makes part of me is like it could be also him it could have been especially if he visited a younger cousin it's likely that he visited all of you right and then this cousin and I were probably like 16 18 years apart and eight right so it makes me think that maybe he visited all of the cousins when we were really little and just some people yeah seeing him and some people didn't but that was something did you see the spirit like how long did your parents recognize you were interacting with something something um but it's not physically here I don't think too long because I was born in that house but I'm well I say not that long but probably like two two and a half years

Littleton house and shadow people

okay it's long enough but not long in the grand scheme of things because then we moved to Littleton New Hampshire and

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so my parents built a house in Littleton New Hampshire we moved from Guilford to Littleton my mom didn't really know anybody in that town and I think it was like a hard period of time for her because she was just at home with me and my brother was born in Littleton so Christian was a newborn so she had a lot going on but someone did move with us and that was the guy from the little old man from who's with you he did I love that he came to love you and the only reason my parents know that he moved was because of the same MOS like the flickering lights the flushing of the toilet whistling the opening of the front door the flushing the toilet is maybe my favorite thing because it implies that ghosts still go to the bathroom yeah and in the middle of the night you know you wake up at 2AM you just have to pee yeah and you go buy it all the time I do have memories though of the ghost

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flushing the toilet like not me seeing him but I have memories of in the middle of the night hearing the toilet flush and being scared and knowing that it's not my family because my dad at the time was working a lot and so I spent a lot of time sleeping in my parents bed with just me and my mom and so the toilet would flush and I'd be like in the room with the only adult that was in the house and then there's an infant and we're just like uh and I'm I'm like four so she can't she can't be like oh no the ghost right right yeah so this is the house where ice my my first memories are so like I actually remember the hauntings here unlike what was happening in Guilford and we were only in Littleton for two years before again we moved from my dad's work um but in Littleton I heard the toilets flush I remember one time sleeping in my mom's

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bed and seeing like a cartoon version of a ghost like if you drew like the you know like the the arched head and then the squiggly bottoms and the two big like eyes in the middle like it literally looked like a piece of construction paper that someone cut out I saw a ghost like appear like that and go move across my parents hall or not Hall but like the wall of their bedroom and slip into their bathroom that was attached to their bedroom it was 2D it looked like that it was so weird and so I don't know what was there that wanted to be seen but maybe not to like spook me maybe it was like oh such a young kid like I'll make myself appear like a cut out of a kindergarten aged ghost I don't know or I don't know it was really strange it's also one of those things where like do ghosts have the control of her being visible or not because if you're four if you're young you just are way more in

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tune and you don't have that like societal you know go start reel or you're seeing things in your head so you are way more open to the other side that just you could see it that you could see the spirit right although I will I also think it's almost scarier for whatever it was to appear that way because it stuck with me so much more than if I've Just Seen A person yeah because it was just so different yeah and so in that house like there were those like smaller odd things that happened um but then I had an experience with shadow people that was recurring and this was terrifying and this I know I've said on the podcast before Sabrina you've heard it but there was I call them like the family of shadow people because it really did Scare the family like I remember a dog like a shadow of like a dog there it like it looks like when people have the stickers on the back of their car that's like Mom and Dad and like little Johnny and little Susie and Little Annie and little Marie

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and then our dog Fufu like that is is basically how it felt but there were so I called them the shadow family because they were of varying Heights and like varying shapes but for the most how many were there oh uh four or five and then they lived in our mud room so the way that the house was set up we were at the end of a cul-de-sac and then there were just like acres and acres and acres of land behind the house so we really only had the Neighbors on either side of us and then there was no one for like a couple months at least a few miles so it was really quiet there which I made it sometimes creepy well you guys also built this house which I think is evident to the fact that well land can be haunted so you could have built on haunted land but that it might not necessarily be the land or the house it could be the people living in the home and your family has had so many

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encounters and experiences that I just believe the ghosts flock to you you're a ghost magnet I concur I think that that's been proved it definitely has but yeah so this

Shadow figures and fear

family of or the these shadow people I didn't have a name for shadow people for a really long time I actually learned what shadow people were when I was like probably like 14 13 14 watching an after school special and watched like the one of those Ghost Hunter shows and then they said shadow people and describe them and I remember getting up and running to my mom in the kitchen and being like Mom because it was before you could rewind or replay television so I like rushed her into the room to hear it and she was like oh my God because she'd heard me describe it so many times but basically in our little 10 house I would see this collection of shadow people that would only hang out in the mud room wall in the walls in

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that hallway and the way that our house was set up was it was two stories and when you come in through the garage there's a mud room and then there's a bathroom attached to the bedroom so when you come in through the garage you would you know take off your jacket take off your shoes you could use the bathroom right there and then you get off the tile flooring onto the hardwood and that's when you're in the kitchen the dining room and then it's it's like an open concept into the playroom so the playroom had these French doors that would close but it was all glass doors so sometimes I would be in there with the doors closed if I was playing and my mom was like vacuuming or doing something but I could still I would have a clear view down into the mud room I could see the door to the garage see this is the perfect time where you want where you want the like visual graphic that comes up of like drawing the rooms in the house when you're right and describing it yes yeah I need to make it in The Sims and just somehow insert it into the video that's a fun idea but

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right we make our old childhood homes oh we should do that sometime and just make the layouts of our old homes and describe where all the hauntings were clear my schedule this is where this happened that's for that yeah we're done we're not podcasting for the next seven months we need to make our Simpsons uh but these shadow people would appear only when my mom was not on the first floor so if my mom was ever upstairs doing laundry or had to run upstairs to do something I would be playing like with my Barbies in the room and then I would just stop and I would heat like I wouldn't hear anything but I could sense it that's so much and then I would look over and I would see them and they would like appear and be like dancing around the wall I say dancing but basically like they're lurking and like darting across the walls and it was terrifying and I remember so many times like countless times of me just like being so Frozen with fear or sometimes I would crawl up onto the couch and try to sink myself into it where they couldn't see me and then I would just like not move at all I wouldn't Flinch my body the only thing I would do was scream

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until she would come down so I was screaming but I was not moving an inch because I didn't want him to see where I was hiding oh it breaks my heart so much because like just I'm picturing young little you and now I want a picture of you up on the screen at that age so that everyone can see how cute and little you were oh will it that's a good call let's insert like what we looked like at each age so you can that's a great idea what hauntings happened to little innocent us feel bad for us feel bad for us but it's so sad and and so malicious the fact that it waited until your mom was upstairs or they I guess there's a group of them meaning that they knew they were scaring you and they meant to scare you yeah they meant to they meant to and then they would disappear as soon as my mom came down and I can only imagine how my mom felt you know like she was home alone with these two young kids in an area that she didn't know anyone and I was constantly seeing people on the walls and the bathroom was also there that was the only

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bathroom in our first floor and she would have to bring me to the bathroom every single time I had to go because I was too scared to go by myself and I have a memory um of one time where my mom was just like she was washing dishes you know had the plastic gloves on and she was like I can't take you to the bathroom right now like I'm in the middle of something you need to go by yourself and mind you the bathroom is 12 steps away from where she was so it wasn't like she was sending me off into the abyss but I was so scared of going into that area by myself that I stood there and I peed I just like remember looking up at my mom and saying okay and then just peeing right there because I was like I said my creepy comments to my mom where I was like I was waiting for these trance yes so this is when I was three so from

Past life memories and signs

age three to like five and a half is when we lived in Littleton so at age three I had two different experiences where my

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mom believes maybe a past life or like my soul was kind of bleeding through into this life and the first one was and I might mix mix up these orders and some of the details my mom can tell it better but basically there was a time where it was just me and my mom home alone and and my brother and she was trying to get me ready for bed and to get a three-year-old to like brush their teeth and get ready for bed isn't always easy you know some nights they don't want to go to bed and so I was getting really frustrated and she said my voice kind of changed and it didn't it's not necessarily that it like got down to like the level of an adult mature voice it's just that the clarity of my voice went from being like a little kid to a well-articulated enunciating voice and I turned to her and I said how come you're the mom now and she was like oh what do you mean

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because you were the mom before and I didn't answer and she said I just kind of like went back to like being my little kid self and then the second time that happened the same sort of thing like where I'm I'm getting frustrated and then suddenly I kind of like go into this Stern talking voice and I turned to my mom and I say I want to go back and she said oh go back where do you want to go back to Guilford because we had just moved from Guilford to Littleton New Hampshire and I said No and then she said well where do you want to go back to I said I want to go back to heaven and we had never talked about Heaven and Hell I mean my family my my parents were both raised Catholic but I was a baby so aside from being baptized there was no regular Church going like I hadn't been in CCD yet like there was none of that yeah you didn't my

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childhood books weren't religious at all like literally had she was my mom was like I really don't know like where you learned that but so she was very creeped out about that at least it's going back to heaven and not like a creepy thing like I want to go back to hell yeah I know it is yeah it's interesting though because like those two those two occurrences basically mean that my mom and I were like traveling Souls of sorts where we have lived multiple lives being different people to each other and that I was somewhere else before coming back down and maybe I didn't go absolutely as willingly it is interesting like what if you are a traveling Soul pair yeah but you don't want to but there's a lot of examples where people get told by mediums like you with your tarot card where the psychic was saying that your grandmother has your future daughter

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like there's so many stories where people hear that this their children like chose them and we're waiting for them and we're so willing but also on the flip side I think maybe sometimes we didn't want to come we were forced to well or you just were annoyed in that moment and you're like well I want to go back to where there were no rules and I could do my own right but it makes me think of I remember on campfire stories there was it might have been our kids episode where a mom and her son came on and her son was saying I used to be in space and that before he was born he was in space and he could see his mom and dad and then he was talking about being in space and like that was just which maybe my incredible interpretation of that is maybe it wasn't space itself but like it looks like space in like the um waiting room of of life

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right yeah well this is like the movie Soul right where they're they can kind of like see down from the stars in their own little world and kind of Zoop forward into Earth yeah snapshot down it is interesting I don't really know I mean I I don't wanna we would be here for 10 hours if I told truly everything that I remember but it does make me wonder about like past lives and everything because I do have some memories that I learned later on through discussions with my family that aren't memories from this life but we want to do it that's like an organ transplant or anything right I feel like it's not someone else's yeah yeah but that's we want to do a past life aggression and I feel like we can start it or end it with our previous understanding of past lives I don't have any but you you do so maybe after the past life regression yeah that's a good idea share yeah

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great idea okay let's fast forward we've

Moving to the Vermont home

been through two houses now we're in Vermont okay I moved to Vermont in the middle of my kindergarten year it was horrifying joining a kindergarten class um when everyone else had known each other for months that was scary middle of the Year move yeah I joined in January because my parents built this house too right you know back in the day when land was still available and didn't break the bank to build a house or even buy a house for that matter yeah very different life our parents lived you know um okay so they built the house and it was basically ready for us to move in and my dad's job was ready for the transfer uh for us to move there sometime like December January so that's when I joined kindergarten um but that is also when the ghost moved and that's when we moved in

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we know the family who owned the land we know the contractor who built the house like there for Generate we can trace back this land for multiple Generations there is nothing that happened on this land that we know yeah so it's just us did the contractors experience anything while building it or was it truly just you moved in and so did the ghosts and everything started after you I think we moved in and so did the ghosts yeah because in our neighborhood there's probably now there's probably 30 some houses there were only five houses for like a good ten years on the street but out of the 30 some houses at least that me or my parents have been told I think there's there's only been a couple houses that have had Paranormal Activity so it might be the people it might be like some sort of Perfect Storm where the house is built the land is conducive to holding the spirits and then the right people move in I don't know but you I you bring the portal

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yeah they'll bring the fun the hauntings the hauntings yes okay so there are many spirits in this house I'll just list a few and I say many spirits in this house in current tents because there are some spirits who come and go but my family has experienced the same spirits that are like sort of our regulars where maybe we won't see them for a couple of years you know see them a bunch yeah resident ghosts it's the cheers literally accept they each have their own room which is really interesting they like don't cross paths everybody has their dedicated space so you won't encounter two two of the spirits in the same room it's very much like ghosts the it is they each have their own Chambers yeah the change the chambers are different okay so one of the spirits that we see a lot is this tall man in the hallway and

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he hangs out from the layout of my parents current house is when you come through the garage into the mud room if you turn left out of the mud room you're facing the old like traditional Colonial dining room and he hangs out there so the mudroom hallway into the dining room and he's really tall and he's dressed kind of like almost in a suit it's not really dressed up as in like he's going to a wedding but it was more of like a I don't know like he was heading to work in the streets of Boston and oh 1930 or something like it's it's a suit but it's not it's like more of a casual suit and he's he's super tall like this guy's probably like six six I bet six five six six he's a very tall guy super skinny so I've seen him multiple times usually just like a wisp of him kind of going from one room to the other my mom has seen him a lot like looking out the window or like sitting down over there

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and my favorite experience that I've had with him was when we spooked each other my family had been gone on vacation for multiple days and I was the first one in the house and we were unloading the car and so normally when you unload the car you like just bring stuff in drop it and go back out but instead I decided like we have a lot of stuff I should probably utilize the room to the left instead of dropping everything in the hallway I'm gonna make some extra space for everyone behind me so how old was he around 14 15 16 I say that was a very smart idea of you okay yeah no I was I was older but I whipped around into the dining room and he was standing there like but kind of against the wall like as if we caught him off guard by coming in right then so he was kind of like standing there almost hiding behind the wall and I whipped around and we see each other and he goes oh I go and then he disappeared ah it's oh my God that's kind of awesome it's kind of like when you're or for me

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when I was growing up and my mom had asked me to do a chore before she got home from work like when I got home from school I'd be alone whatever and she'd be like hey I'm gonna do the dishwasher before I come home and I'd hear her car pulling into the driveway and I'd have to like run and do the dishwasher because like you know I was doing something else yes yeah yeah exactly he got caught he got caught he got caught yeah and then uh

Communal home hauntings

another thing that happened to quite a few of us in the house so basically like my family and then when we would have people come over when my brother and I would have like friends sleep over or when we'd have relatives come over one of the communal experiences that everybody sort of not everybody but a lot of people heard was after everybody's upstairs and goes to bed our spare bedrooms upstairs all the bedrooms are Upstairs Downstairs is the kitchen lights are out we also have an alarm system so if anyone did even get like a few steps down the stairway into the first floor the alarm would go so no

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one is in the first floor we would hear often and I still hear it sometimes today we would hear silverware and plates like someone's cleaning up dinner or fixing themselves a late night dinner oh it was like the drawers are opening the silverware is going the plates are are hitting but there's no evidence of it in the morning and my brother and I even would write notes sort of like how you write a note to like the to Santa or the Tooth Fairy we would write notes to our ghosts occasionally and leave it on the kitchen island because it would be like what are you doing what are you eating like what what is your name never no no pencils harder right I know I wish my parents kept that it's also weird our ghost hunting Journal it's also interesting because you're hearing the movement of utensils and

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plate wear but did you ever go down and see any of those moved or was it just like the sounds of it um it was just the sounds huh it was just the sounds interesting yeah and I remember too a few times being spooked by it it was one of those things where I finally got used to it but I remember being spooked by it a couple times getting my mom my mom saying like no one's downstairs it's fine the noise stops and then later on in the night it picks up again and I'm hearing it there was a lot I wonder what they're eating and then what what are they making that's my question like invite us at least you're right I'm probably eating our food it's like Beetlejuice together right yeah and it's not it's not like the scary version where someone's actually living in your walls because we had the alarm system so we would know if there was actually someone physically down there and then another thing that happened specifically to me a lot was that there was a man and a woman who would be outside of my bedroom door and

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wouldn't talk and like whisper to each other but also say my name and try to get my attention and I never saw them but they would be outside of my door in a hushed voice being talking to each other talking to me scheming about if I'm awake how to get my attention like the conversation was me and they would bicker with one another it was male and female Quinn Corinne she's not gonna hear you speak up no I can't speak up everybody's asleep do you think she's awake I think she's awake no I don't I don't think she's awake I think that that was the conversation Spirit guides maybe but anyway because like if thank God they didn't but what if they're good what do they want to tell you I need to know yeah do you still I mean I told my parents nope I don't hear that ever anymore it did stop I think probably when I got to Middle School it was definitely more of

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like when I was younger I would hear it and I did tell my parents and my dad at this time now my dad is like joining campfire stories telling horrifying Tales of all of his hauntings like my parents have both experienced a ton of hauntings prior to me and my brother existing and prior to them being together we'll have a family episode yeah my dad was very much of the belief of like tell them ghosts aren't real so that your kids aren't scared and so you could like live your life peacefully and then my mom was in the camp of we have stubborn children they're never going to take that as an answer right they just aren't going to tell you their experiences anymore and be scared alone now right like they're experiencing it whether you want them to or not or whether you want them to believe it or not so I'll at least like hear it and talk to them about it so I I kind of learned for like a few years to only talk to my mom about the code staff and not my dad and so I like how about the you kind of pause after I only talk to my mom

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and then you said about the ghost stuff and I was like just picturing you only talking to your mom for a few years I I am really stubborn and I do have a lot of Pride so there was actually a time where I like did not talk to my dad for five days because the cheesecake incident he know what oh but the cheesecake incident no it was he was asking me if I got my homework done every night he'd be like did you get your homework done yet did you get your homework and I always did in that annoyed out of me and I'm like come up with another question to ask me guy and guy I said to him one time I was like you know I was like angsty Middle School of course like early High School aged I was like if you ask me one more time if I've done my homework I am not gonna talk to you and he asked me and then I perfumes he probably doesn't remember that but I do because I was like wow that was really aggressive like it's not just I

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didn't talk to him for like dinner I was like mute for five days what oh my God sometimes when I when people say like oh Karen you're you're so nice I have a few people that are like you're one of my nicest friends I'm like I don't think I am in here I'm not that nice I think I am but basically to Circle back those voices that we're talking outside of my bedroom I only told my mom about it and it happened so consistently my brother's bedroom was next to mine he never heard them but one time I had a friend in elementary school who slept over her name was Lauren and the next morning she said I couldn't sleep because there were two people outside of your bedroom door who kept calling your name and talking and so I finally got confirmation yes wow and so that was my confirmation that other people could hear them I

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don't know did you ever try to respond to them or do you just shut your eyes and like try to go to back to sleep no pretend it's not happening pretend it's not happening that's kind of what I was doing okay okay okay okay yes um all right let's see what's next on my notes there's so many as as we're talking too I have so many notes but like as we're talking like oh and then that led to this and this led to that but I'm like you should say all of it because write this down I know write this down so you don't forget them it's so funny because I feel like you I definitely have a lot of experiences but I don't have nearly as many as you do so when you told me like like mine took me like an hour and a half I was like why'd you be like 35 minutes no I think it'll be longer and I'm gonna ask my mom and dad for some of their experiences too yes perfect perfect yeah well so I have just a couple I know I know that my experiences myself will take up a bunch of time but I did write down like a few

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things that did ex did happen specifically to my brother and to my mom um and my dad has some too that I think he told on campfire stories yeah yes but I'm still learning things about my dad because he'll keep his stories and then he'll tell me with them and I'm like you had 30 years to tell me the story and this is the first time I'm hearing it I don't understand but well it sounds like he was under the impression of like let's not talk about it so he definitely was he just he definitely wasn't until I was in until I was in high school and then he started talking about it more right but uh so all of us in my family

Brother's experiences and cleansing

we all had individual experiences and so I think we all thought for a while that we were experiencing separate spirits and sometimes we were so Christian my brother he had a few things happen to him um one was he was dressed up in his Buzz Lightyear costume and so cute he was like four news in his Buzz Lightyear costume and he ran into his bedroom and

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went into his closet to like grab one of his toys and when he ran into the closet there was a girl floating there in a white dress a few feet off of the ground and he described her hands kind of being together and like doing this sort of motion where each pad of the fingers are like slowly touching like not a clap but like a slow like like a evil yes yeah and he said that she was making some sort of like humming noise and so when we talk about it we kind of do like the homina homina because that's sort of what it was and he came out screaming in his Buzz Lightyear costume of course me and my mom were literally in the hallway and like in the bathroom right next to his bedroom so that was one of his first experiences that really spooked him um he also when he was in Middle School he would do like the uh Guitar Hero and all the different like gamer games downstairs in our basement and one time he turned off the TV and he's in his gamer chair which is

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set like four feet in front of the couch that was behind the gamer chair for everyone else to sit when they were in the basement and he turns off the TV and in the like fuzzy screen that turns black he sees someone sitting a man sitting on the couch behind him and then he just bolts upstairs doesn't look just runs and that is so creepy yeah I also had an experience in the in the basement or Christian and I were playing hide and seek and I was like he's too chicken to go into the basement which now I'm that way he has to bring me into the basement when we're both home but I hidden downstairs at like the bottom of the stairwell when we were playing hide and seek and I didn't turn on the lights because I was like this is good because you don't want to give it away yeah and then he went to the top of the stairs the door was closed and I heard him ask my mom like Mom can do you think Corinne's down there can you bring me down to look and so I'm like oh they're gonna come down so I turn to run into another

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room and there is a little boy who looks blue like he's his skin is blue it's like whitish blue there's a little boy he's probably like four years old and he's crouched underneath our foosball because he was playing with you guys and then he just starts crawling and like runs like basically like a couple steps in his crash position and then like takes off and then away from you so I didn't or towards yes so okay no gosh thank God it was away from me yeah so so I didn't see it wasn't like I saw 20 feet of this little boy crawling I literally saw like a couple crawls and then he was out of sight behind the football table and then I sprinted upstairs got my mom obviously the game of hide and seek was over because that was terrifying it does seem like he was playing with you and were you playing hide and seek tag where if they find you used to run away or they have to tag you for you to be out no no but also I wasn't this kid so

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maybe he was just maybe he was also just like we need to find new hiding spots yeah I like my brother came scary but it does seem innocent and like this kid just wanted to play with you yes yeah in my opinion yeah and actually it might make sense it that might make sense for like there was another experience that I had where when I was watching TV when I was in Middle School so it's probably like 12 or 13. I was laying down in our living room on the couch watching TV and one of my shoes like I had like a strappy sandal it was picked up and floated like three feet above the carpet right in front of my face because I'd take it off my shoes right there so like I'm like in front of you my shoe gets pulled up and I screamed and like hopped over the back of the couch and went and got my mom but now that I think of it it might have been that little boy you know just like a curious like what is what is this is this mine now interesting right yeah

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but to finish my brothers and I'm sure he's had so many more experiences that I don't even know about he had probably the most haunted room in our house because every so often there would be like three or four figures I can't remember the exact number of if you picture like what the green Grim Reaper looks like or even like kind of like Voldemort but like with a black hooded Cape there are multiple of those like matching creatures that would appear in his room and just kind of like do this weird like humming chanting thing oh my walk in a circle for hours and he would be absolutely terrified and then it would happen for multiple nights in a row and we would basically I always say like we had to smoke them out because I would literally grab all of my incense sticks I would like burn the dragon's blood burn the white couple like we would do everything that we had in the house this and we would smoke them out for a few months and they wouldn't come back it is so wild how many different Spirits

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were in your home like yeah it's one thing for spirits to be whispering outside your door continuously but then there's a little boy and there's a tall man then there's these weird creatures creepy people chanting things there's a woman in the closet and there's more I mean by far probably the shadow people that was the house before right I had in in the Vermont yeah but also in the Vermont house I did have a shadow person one time and they got into the shower with me and they were very small so they were they were probably like three and a half feet tall and they were in the shower and I can't remember if I said it out loud or in my head but I basically like claimed my space and like banished them and then they immediately left so it was like oh probably like a 60-second experience of me freaking out then figuring out what to do then banishing them and then them leaving that's what I was in the shower with me yeah and also when I would shower yeah it just appeared suddenly oh my God and

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then in the bathroom too I would always bring in my boom box and there were a few times where like a spirit would tamper with my Boombox and they would like turn the volume up or change the channel and then I'd be like turn it down or like put it back and then they would wow so there were really scary moments but then there were also moments where we're like okay we just live amongst ghosts and we have to respond quickly

Mom's experiences and visitations

yeah yeah and my mom's so used to it one of she had a nicer Spirit I'm the only person that's ever heard the spirit that she has had contact with where well I say contact but it's very one-sided my mom will be well there's this man who sounds his voice sounds like he's in his 30s and he'll say hello or good morning or I think one time he said like hi baby he he's very loving towards my mom and sometimes she'll get a tap on the shoulder in the morning like it'll be like tap tap hello and so he usually only talks to my mom but I heard him one time one time it was

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maybe four years ago and I was in my childhood bedroom when I was visiting home and in the morning I was already awake but I still have my eyes closed and I think I was like turned away from the door and then I heard hello and then I was like oh my gosh I finally get to hear who my mom has been hearing for 20 years my question is is the spirit Like a Lover from a past life of your mom's I don't know a traveling Soul interesting or even like I'm thinking what if it what if it's like an ex-boyfriend or something that oh she doesn't know anymore that like maybe passed away younger and it never got over your mom yeah Deb little Heartbreaker my mom does have a boyfriend actually she and her boyfriend when she was 14 they never broke up they just moved away so then I have a lot of those because I'm pretty sure like my middle school relationships were all like we just

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stopped talking and it was like oh okay technically yeah there's no official we're done dating Guido we never talked once the entire time wow you need to send him a breakup message you're like I just need to close the circle this is so funny the way he asked me out this is like sixth grade so it's like super innocent I had never talked to him he sent a friend over to me when I was at my locker and he the friend goes hey are you Italian and I said yes this is the most Guido thing in the world because literally like a guido Italian and I said yes and he goes cool and then he like goes over to Guido real quick he tells Guido she's Italian and Guido goes okay got a friend comes back over and goes do you want to date Guido and I said sure and then we were dating and then the next day my friend no way my friend Catherine are you Italian then we should date it must be like his parents were very

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much like you have to have an Italian woman you know so he had that in his head but the next day my friend Catherine made me this little like homemade she clearly went home cut out his uh school picture from the yearbook pasted it on a piece of paper put a heart around it and then wrote me a letter about how she dated him last year and she's like he's so nice I never talked to Guido we didn't talk that's so sweet I know but we never talked wait but also what a nice friend you have she had already dated him and was like you're going to have such a great relationship and like because you don't know I'm so excited for you to get to experience this because you don't talk yeah and you'll never make fun oh you never will does Nick know this so sorry did you get married three times for for each boyfriend that you never broke up with so it's like one marriage is for Nick and the other two is to assure him that the two boyfriends that you never broke up with are yeah don't mean anything don't worry about it yes

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don't worry about it okay so a few other things that happened to my mom often where that my her grandmother so my great-grandmother would come visit her and we she wouldn't see her but it was like always during a period of time where my mom was having a hard time either just like being a parent or I don't know just in life she was having a hard time and feeling a little bit low and alone and she would be in our spare bedroom folding laundry or in the kitchen or like somewhere in the house and she would wherever she was or the space that she would enter would fill with the scent of my great-grandmother's perfume like her powder and so my mom would experience that so by far my mom's had the nicest nicest experiences my brother's getting these like demons circling his room chanting I'm having people like talk about me and gossip outside of my door and then my mom gets called Baby told good morning and has her grandmother visit her like

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she's by far winning the Paranormal experiences here yes but she's also dealing with two children who are having terrifying experiences so I would say that that is terrifying in its own right she's basically experiencing it all because of you that's true and she would still to this day with me my brother not living in the house she will hear us call her name she heard that all through growing up she would hear like a mom and then she'd go and we would be completely asleep or we'd be away at sleepovers no she's just she still hears it Mom down the hall which okay could be residual if you guys were so scared of an experience calling for your mom might have stained yeah our little like token token of Trauma from those paranormal experiences and calling out for our mom has now stained

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and is we are haunting our own Mom that's possible I prefer that yes um other people who've slept over at our house have experienced things or just like come over to hang out with us so like I said I had a friend in elementary school who heard that people chatting I had a friend in high school who slept over who heard a woman screaming downstairs in the middle of the night I feel bad too far that makes me think of the closet woman oh oh yeah maybe oh gosh I did actually experience one time I saw a woman that with like kind of dark hair that maybe could have looked like her kind of like slowly creep around and like look around the banister of our stairs into the the kitchen and like stare at me and my best friend Meg in high school I remember she was we were talking and I she was facing away from it and I was seeing it and then she said are you seeing something behind me are

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you seeing a ghost right now and I was like yeah she was like oh god let's move on that reminds me of this

The most terrifying encounter

the story that you told on morbid that I had never heard before the man um yes yeah well I'll tell it right now okay so you can go over a crossover with morbid our Crossover with morbid I probably tell it better than I will right now but essentially when I was I can't remember how old I was it was like 15 ish or so um I was in bed at night and I'd gone to sleep and I sleep with the door open so my childhood door isn't fully open but like I would probably have five or six inches so I could have that crack and through that crack I could perfectly see the stairwell like the top of the stairwell and part of the uh like five steps basically and then part of the

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hallway that led to my room so basically if you're in your in my house and you walk up the stairs you get to the first landing and then the stairs curve and then you take an additional four or five steps up to the top of the second floor so it's kind of like an L-shaped stairwell and so I wake up because I can kind of sense something and I feel like I almost hear something and I'm just aware that there's something going on outside of my door and I can see on the handrail hand and it's like slowly making its way up and like sliding against the railing and the hand is a little bit like older and wrinkled and the amount of time it takes for this person to come into view feels like eternity like this person is creeping at a glacial Pace like it doesn't want so slow because it's true I feel like my whole experience had to have taken 30 minutes like it truly it was a really long time for for this thing to go

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eventually like 15 feet yeah so I'm watching and I'm still laying down and I'm just like watching through this crack in my door which I can still see like perfectly the stairs and the railing and then interview I see like the back of this person and they make it up the stairs and they turn around and this person is in a T-shirt and kind of like cargo pants-ish situation um they have a very like wrinkled and scarred face and then they have kind of like a almost like gray or like white blonde buzz cut like they looked older if I had to guess their age probably like I don't know I feel it I now I feel like the pressure to identify the correct age but it's okay someone who had lived lived a life but but we're not as quite a senior citizen okay um but so they were older like they wore

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the marks of their body and had a lot of wrinkles and it was this guy and he had this glaring look on his face like he looked like he wanted to kill me and his eyes were searing into me and he's just making his way around the banister now he's turning so now he's fully off the stairs and on the second floor and he's making his way down the hallway if he had gone right he would have gone to my parents room if he had gone left which he did go left he was coming towards me and my brother's room which were next to each other and so his hand is still on the on the railing and it's like shh like really gently sliding against the wood grain and he's not breaking eye contact it takes him forever to get through like halfway down the hallway and then he disappears out of view so now I can't see him because there's a blind spot which is the end of that banister and when it curves into my bedroom finally he gets and you're just laying

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there watching this entire thing in the fear in you building because you don't know what's going on yeah I probably had I'm sure I had like five to six minutes without being able to see him but like I could still like sent him obviously here like this yeah against the banister yeah against the railing it was so scary and then eventually he makes it to my bedroom door and he's like standing right there in the opening and he's oh that scared me Brian just sprinted by whoa bad timing yeah but he makes it to the the front of my bedroom door into that like crack and he's just like standing there fully facing like his shoulders angled perfectly facing me in my bed and at this point now I'm sitting up because I wanted to get a good look at him I wanted to like be able to see try to see as far as I could before he got to the blind spot so I'm I'm seated but still in bed and then he just stands

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there and stares at me for what feels like forever and we're just basically having like a stare off me terrified not knowing what this guy's did doing and him seeming like he wants to rip my face off and eat it like he is angry at me visibly full of hatred and this guy took forever to get to where he was he's the slowest moving Spirit I've ever seen which what which is what made what he did next so terrifying which is he's sprinted at me full force no indication that he was about to change position he just went from standing and glaring for five six minutes to a full-on like sprinting at me when he gets close to me I can't see him anymore but I am blown back in my bed I'm sitting up and then my torso was just like whipped back it feels like air hitting me basically like a really fast wind and I blow back and then I get up because he didn't pin me down or

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anything he just like threw me back and then I get up and I Sprint to my parents room I get my mom she comes back to my room to sleep with me I am sleeping on the side of the bed that faces the that is pushed into the wall so that I'm protected with the wall on one side and my mom on the other side and then I wake up a few hours later because I sense that someone's there staring at me and I pick my head up and I look over my mom back at the door and he's there and he's just staring again and then he didn't charge me again and I never saw him again after that he just eventually went away that night but that was that was my scariest experience it's so terrifying yeah I'd had other nice ones in my bedroom where like I've had two or three times I had like a spirit tuck me in like the little ch that's my body it sounds scary but that was comforting yeah and that was arguably like closer and More Physical of something for me to experience for

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like and someone's stroking my hair those were all fine this experience that well this was terrifying Korean I will say I am glad that you saw him again because had it just been the first part I would have some fear that this spirit came into you liked me and like it's lurking inside of you but the fact that you saw it again later really reassures me I hope what was that yeah you see in your apartment now I'm moving my headphones so I can hear on the outside world but that's very terrible it is creepy because it's like I mean you will will cover it on your special the Sabrina special but like it is interesting to think of because it's like your your dad is a living example of that where like there's something whether it's a version of him or something else in him that's that exists coexists with his current state of

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consciousness and so you never really know when something's gonna attach itself to you or become part of you I don't know yeah very crazy always a part of you always a part of you

Reflecting on spiritual connection

yeah how long have you been doing this I feel like I'm barely anywhere it's been an hour we might need to do a part two because I have not eaten today but um oh we've recently been talking about how parts of your soul like could split off of you if things happen to you what if that then leaves room within yourself for spirits to like transfer part of them oh okay I mean I feel like that could be both beneficial and horrifying because then you get you get bad attachments but then I'm also thinking like what if that's something that helps you become more powerful in your own craft and your own spirituality and like accepting yourself like what if really good spirits too and like your own Spirit guides and and I'll take a picture

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right like they can come to you and give you little pieces of themselves to borrow in your current life how do you protect yourself from the bad ones that want to I don't know take over this is all a great point I am not sure I'm not sure that you can I'm hopeful that there is a way but we just don't know how to yes do you want to finish like your adolescence and then we'll do it I'll finish high school and then we'll do call College and and post College yeah that's a good idea okay man sorry I hope this is interesting and not just it is are you kidding I jumbled it no correct I can promise you this is amazing and people want to hear your ghost stories I mean people come here for ghost stories and the fact that you are living evidence of someone who has had enough to fill up over an hour yes of their own experiences is one horrifying sorry for your

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experiences but incredible and probably reassuring to people who are also very similar to you very important well and to like another thing about growing up in my house is like me and my parents and my brother we all experience so much but it actually took us a really long time for us to come together and even share our experiences with one another we would do like a one-off of like oh I was scared because this happened but it didn't mean that just because I told my mom what happened that I then went to my brother and my dad and we announced it at the dinner table and all discussed all the goings-on in our house but there was actually a moment where I think I was in high school or I might have been just about to go into High School where someone said something and it basically got us someone said something about one of our resident ghosts but we didn't know that we all saw the resume ghost like it was specifically I remember it was about The Tall Man in the dining room we all thought that we were individually seeing him and we didn't realize that we all were

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having the same sort of experiences with him and so that's that was like a pivotal moment where we all were like wait do you also see this person do you see that and then we started to realize like what we all had together he said together and what we had experienced separately you put the puzzle together we are putting the puzzle together also remember how moments ago I got scared by something I'm pretty sure it was my own stomach grumbling because it just happened again and it was so loud oh no oh no I feel bad no it's okay I will after this okay part of me is a little nervous recording this because I did have an experience when I was in high school again with my best friend Meg at the time I've told you this where we were on Zoom talking and then I heard I might be mixing up who experienced what but I'm pretty sure I had just heard like kind of like a fuzziness and like and then the zoom timed out or like exited and when I called her back she

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was very scared and she said that she saw a black mist come into frame and like encapsulate me essentially so even if you weren't in my house you might still experience the hauntings from from afar this is why it's like yeah I'm glad that we have YouTube video versions of this but I'm really terrified that something like that is going to happen one of the days that we're recording which would be good to have evidence of but also terrifying for whoever experiences it and sees right you know I know well we'll see if there's there's been a few occasions where people will flag something and I I think we've debunked some of it like Nick in the background and some of the things but still there are things that come up we can't quite explain yeah plenty

Recurring nightmares and sensations

um Okay so a few of the other things that started to happen and this is actually I could probably trace this back to Littleton because it was a recurring

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dream for my entire adolescence I had a few recurring dreams that were extremely disturbing and I can only guess that it had to do with like the negative presences or just like spiritual activity that was Spirit activity that was happening in my house because no child could create this from their mind it's dark I'm gonna tell you three of them okay the three were and also by the way I was sleepwalking a lot as a young kid which of course probably terrified for my yeah usually I would just go wake up my mom and like give her some gibberish instructions and she would walk me back but there was one time where I woke up and I was just like standing in the middle of my parents room staring at their like turned off blank TV in the darkness and I woke up Poltergeist that time but how many other times was I just wandering around there the house and no one woke up and no one woke up and I didn't make it it makes me think about it Selena spooky is that her name

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on Tick Tock oh Selena spooky boo yeah she yes her sleepwalking series it also makes me laugh so hard but it is like it really feels like she's living another life well I think she talked to a psychic who said that she was interacting with Spirits or yeah or like was fully in the astral plane basically 100 sleepwalking yeah um okay well so some of the the stuff that I was dealing with with like recurring nightmares I guess well I'll just tell two two of them well actually I'll tell them all they're all so up okay I'll just tell two of them but they're all trigger warning yeah trigger warning okay this is like a trigger warning for like all of the above like assault murder death of children death of adults those are your trigger warnings and this was coming from like a

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five-year-old brain and you had reoccurring like these happen to you yes it happened yes yes okay it would happen all the time I know so one of them was you know those the old like Teeth toy that would you can wind up and it goes I would have a recurring nightmare of this woman who was pregnant and she was in bed it was almost like a TV set where like I was on the side and I could see like the window and her bed and everything set up and she's like in the bed and she's basically like screaming for for me to help her as this thing like basically it's not a toy but like is trying to like eat her alive underneath the sheets and like take taking out chunks of her oh my gosh for you I was like five when they started it was definitely it might have started my Littleton house I can't remember at the beginning it was my Vermont my Vermont house though but the one that like by far was the most

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reoccurring where I probably had it every few months and it was so so disturbing and like really rattled me was I would dream of this conveyor belt there was like a black void and in this black void there was a conveyor belt far far in the distance like a football field away and then there was my parents bed from Littleton just sitting with like a spotlight on the bed and I was in the bed and then my mom was next to me and she was asleep and I would watch as the conveyor belt would take parents sorry if anyone's watching on YouTube I had blood work done and so this is a really gross bruise but people these parents would like basically just slowly go through the conveyor belt and they would psychologists are for sure going to diagnose me right now but like they would come out like in chunks like fleshy chunks on the other side of the conveyor belt like it wasn't like they were just like poof they were dust or dead like they were

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to cut up the horror movie dismembered yes yes and then their children would be there like screaming and crying and trying to save their parents and they couldn't and then there would always be like this little girl that would try to like run the football field to me screaming for help for me to help them and that's so up and I don't like it has to be paranormal like who who would put that in my brain I can't put that in my brain what does that mean I don't know I'm trying to think like there's anything that you could have caught a glimpse of around that time like your parents watching a horror movie or something that puts it in your mind but it is so disturbing no the scariest movie I watched was E.T but I listened to my brother's room for like eight years after watching E.T it was so scary it also reminds me of we've just heard so many listener stories where people have terrifying dreams like this where they're so horrific there's so much violence

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and it's often associated with demonic entities trying to put mem like put these terrifying things into their brain to make them fearful and frightened and therefore more weak vulnerable well it freaking worked it was really scary and actually I did get diagnosed from the internet remember when I was talking about from the internet well from our podcast listeners that version of the internet do you remember a few years ago when I was talking about when I was in like middle school and high school I would have these feelings and still I had a couple times into going into adulthood where I'd have these feelings where it was almost like circusy where like things were really fast and really slow and people's voices were like jumbled and I was like and thrown around and it was so disorienting and so scary apparently let me look it up because I did get diagnosed officially from our podcast listeners so much tacky sensia takisencia uh yeah where everything appears to be

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speeding up and sounds become unusually loud but I think it can go both ways where it's like fast and slow loud and quiet like very circusy but I was looking that up and it it said that they don't really know what causes it but they think that it could be like due to a virus or a lack of oxygen in the brain for a moment and so there's no way for me to track it down but I do wonder if that happened only in times when I was really sick although I feel like it happens like maybe you're teetering between timelines oh what an interesting Theory I don't know we're like this Dimension is getting a little shaky and what if yeah what if you're really like a ripple being ripped between yeah I don't know um that's super fascinating anyway this is now like my diagnosis podcast I feel like I just that was like the segment that was like is it paranormal or is grin just

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suffering sort of mental or physical illness start every episode with like a hey this is what's going on with us can you someone who's listening who's informed and knowledgeable please diagnose us diagnose us let us know I just imagine like a gas like someone who's in gastronology or like the stomach field who hears us complain about our stomachs all the time and it's just like oh my gosh you guys [Laughter] yeah I mean hey if you want to give us some like free blood work and diagnosis please do because yeah please

High school experiences

um man all right I'm gonna try to speed it up and and get through stuff I'm gonna skip some things which is fine okay just remember Mark I already so we can come back to it everyone wants to know all of it

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there's no way we can hear all of it all right well okay I'll just tell like a series of shorter shorter experiences to wrap up the high school experience so one is one that you guys have heard all before it well if you've listened to the podcast in order and are fully caught up which was that I used to frequent this frequents maybe not the right word I used to just shop at this store called Spirit dancer in Burlington Vermont and it's a spiritual metaphysical shop so they would have like crystals and Tarot cards and books and they would do readings and whatnot there and I usually wouldn't necessarily buy anything I would just walk around because I thought it was cool me and one of my friends would frequent there every time we went down downtown that was like a fun thing to do fun yeah but up at the desk or the checkout counter there was a rack of pendulums like Crystal pendulums that are all hanging there and all of them are completely still there's a little sign that says like do not touch ask for assistance and the person that was working behind the

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desk it was talking to us and we were just like asking questions about the pendulums and then I said well I think I said something like well like which one should I pick which one should I choose and out of this row of perfectly still hanging pendulums one of them just starts violently swinging back and forth back and forth and the person behind the desk was spooked was like holy and I'm like a 17 at this point and I was like okay I guess I'll get this one because I was like I guess pendulums pick you it's kind of like you know like the wand picks you the pendulum pixio and the person buying the desk was like are you sure you you want that and I was like yeah I am but then I very rarely use it because I am a little nervous that there was some spirit that was so intent on me bringing it home and using it I get a little but that's the one that you've used on this podcast

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mm-hmm yeah it's the only one I have because I feel like it's the only one that's like violently yeah reacted to my presence it was probably your guardian because I feel like when you use those it's supposed to be your guardian and those types of spirits coming through so I do feel positive about it okay well that's good that's good so I have the pendulum um and okay now we're gonna we're gonna move on specifically to high school times because there were some things that happened to be outside of the house but were still very much Spirit related okay so in in my high school in high school my best friend Meg who I've already talked about a few times with different experiences that we've had her and I I think we went to Spirit dancer and actually did buy some like meditation tapes that were about being able to feel your aura and I never got to feel her Aura really but she was able to figure it out and like feel mine and there's like some serious resistance Sabrina you and I will have to practice

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it but her and I spent a ton of time together like she was my best friend throughout all of high school we were always at each other's houses and I was over at her house one day and her bedroom was on the Second Story um but it had like a a door that went out onto the roof of the garage so part of her bedroom was like basically a roof like it was really fun in high school to go like just sit out on this little this little section of roof and like watch the stars at night or like hang out or whatever up there sneaking so her and I were up on sneak out yeah her but there's nowhere to go this is Farm country where are we gonna do run 20 miles to some friend's house no there was you don't get to go anywhere but we were we were up on the roof and I looked down and I see her dad walking up the driveway and I say oh look there's your dad and as I say that she looks down and this man who I thought was her dad walks through the car and disappears and she was like where and I was like oh

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never mind I think I just saw a ghost but this man is just walking through their driveway in the middle of nowhere and like so clearly was not just it was not a spirit to me like it he looked fully formed like fully right solid he looked like a real person and that was interesting because for the most part when I see spirits a lot of the times it's not me I have like all of the Claires like declared cognizant Claire whatever I often times will hear them sometimes I smell them sometimes I just know that they're there I get like downloaded information on what they look like but like my physical eyes aren't seeing anything but I know what they look like what they're wearing right who they are basically like I get pieces fed to me or I'll just see like little blips of something or like someone will look like like a ghost like it's a weird you are

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just a person you're you're a medium I think you're a medium Korean I think I'm extremely untrained and blocked off medium I think if I think I could get there if I were like really dedicated yeah but Spirit guys this one was interesting too I know you're asking me too I will but that one was interesting because this guy similar to the spirit I saw on my stairs well I guess it's still different because like this person I thought was an actual person versus the the spirit I had Sprint at me and push me down in my bedroom I knew it was a spirit even though I could like see what they looked like

Premonitions and tragedy

but then I'll leave you on just a few things that happen a few final things that happened when I was in high school so one of them was when I was was it this no never mind I like how you look to me about

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something that I was not a part of I'm confused confused was it this life or another life is that what you're gonna ask was it this life or Another Life no I wasn't I was in um well what I was gonna ask was was it in college or was it in high school because now I'm I'm having trouble remembering but I think it was in they might have both been in high school where when I was in the theater area and up on the stage for like public speaking class or intro to acting or whatever the heck I was taking I remember specifically two different times and whether it be in high school or another time that is uncertain but what I saw a girl with a should brunette hair and it was put into a ponytail and she was wearing a backpack and she was walking up the aisle like towards the exit and I remember flagging to whoever I was next to I was

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like oh who's that and then she like dissipated Into Thin Air and then I had another experience similar to that where I saw a little boy kind of like darting and running in between the aisles playing so I was seeing stuff outside of my own house because you are open and that you can see things that's why I guess so just open this reminds me of remember when we Yumi and Izzy went ghost hunting at the LMU or I guess I have a problem with hunting because we're not hunting the spirits we are investigating we went paranormal we're ghost watching it's like you go bird watching you go ghost watching or watching and we went to the LMU theater and late at night after a couple drinks and we tried to look for ghosts I remember hearing noise on the Rafters in the theater do you remember that I do remember that yeah yeah so places are haunted and I I guess

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I can experience it some places that I go um but I'll I guess like the last thing I'll say for my high school experience and I always feel a little silly telling these well I guess I'm going to tell two experiences in one but I do feel a little like sensitive about telling these experiences because they do involve other people who've passed on but um when I was younger I knew someone and spent a lot of time snowboarding with this this guy Sam and he passed away very tragically when he was 14 years old freshman in high school so and I didn't know him personally that well like we just spent a lot of time as a group like being our little hooligan snowboarding Club um so I didn't know much detail like personal detail about his life but after he passed a lot of people who knew him had different experiences there was for example like one person who was one of his best friends was vacationing and had a toucan land on him and then the owner

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came up and was like oh sorry that my toucan like Toucan Sam but like still it was like that connection and then someone had lit a candle in his remembrance and the candle started the flame colors started changing to a bunch of like going through like the rainbow um so a lot of people had experiences but my specific experience was I had two different dreams about him and they all felt extremely real it did not feel like a dream at all the first one he like went to hug me but I'd actually in real life recently broken my rib snowboarding and he went to hug me and I went oh and he goes I know I know I'll be careful and he hugs me and then I think he was just like sitting down and being like I'm okay like everything's okay just getting a little like basic like all as well don't worry about me yeah or like tell people don't worry about me and then the other dream I had I ended up writing down and my mom like called his parents for me to go over and sit down and tell them I dream and it was because the dream I had made

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no sense to me he was bringing me through my own house like room to room and and in the front yard in the backyard but he was showing me the weirdest things like it was like a canoe and then there was like a slingshot and we just like spent a lot of time over these random objects and I was like I don't know what this is like I see you from the months of November through March right and I don't know what all this random stuff is um but basically it ended up being really like significant uh like moments from his life and so when I sat down and told his parents they were kind of like wow this is this is making sense and to me you know like I feel a little silly telling the story because I was young still and so I think and his parents were like the most kind and generous and loving people that you will ever meet like they are they're like the whole the parents that like adopt the entire Community like everyone goes over truly amazing yeah right and so part of me when I recall this

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I I almost don't know what to believe because I feel like they're just so open and so kind and so sweet where I'm like do they just tell me everything made sense to help me with my own healing or was this really authentically like a message during a time of grieving I doubt that they would just be placating a child yeah true and then the other thing which I feel a little weird telling but I guess I've already said it on the podcast um is that I graduated high school early I know it's a shocker because I can barely speak English on this podcast and I have one and a half brain cells but I graduated high school early and I moved out to California and a few to be an actress to be an actress before I moved I was it I don't remember if it was like a year before a couple months before I feel like I've told the story so many times the timeline is getting a little bit blurred now but some time before I moved to Los Angeles I was driving down the road that

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connects my high school to the my town and it's this long stretch and it's a few houses on either side but it's a lot of like farmland and I was driving down it and I just got the most horrible horrible feeling and I just felt like someone had died like it felt like death it felt like grief it felt like tragedy and so I called my mom as I was driving on my cell phone and I was like so many there just died here or was gonna die here like I don't know what to tell you but like I feel awful here and I could not stop crying I was like oh my gosh really really losing it and my mom was like it's okay it's okay like I'm sure everything's gonna be fine we got off the phone I got home I had finished Crying by then and my mom had had experiences too similar to this where like she'll accidentally astral project like she witnessed my breakup with a middle school boyfriend that she thought was a dream but she had accidentally astral projected and like repeated the whole conversation to me like she's known when other people have died like she she also has experiences like this but this was my first time

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being like holy I feel awful here and like this land is this land is stained with death somehow and this land that I have I've driven been back and forth from probably 700 times today feels extremely different and it feels

Empowerment and looking forward

awful yeah and she was like it's fine it's fine anyway fast forward many months later I'm living in LA and I just get this horrible feeling one day that someone from my high school is going to die and my mom texts me maybe like an hour or two after I have this feeling and then she said have you talked to and then she like insert my friends a friend's name and I said oh my God no why because I assumed I was I was feeling so confident's not the right word because I don't want to like I didn't wish for anyone obviously to die but like I had the feeling was just so strong yeah that I assumed that that was what the text was about and it wasn't so I was like okay phew I'm just like overreacting I

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must be just like catching someone else's feelings around me and it has actually nothing to do with me and then a few hours after that so probably like eight nine hours after I get the actual feeling like someone from high school is going to die I find out from a friend that someone that I did grow up with and spent a lot of time with as a really young child and like he was in my high school and same grade as me that he had a car accident and he went off the road that road and he unfortunate yeah right there where I had started crying before and called my mom um and unfortunately he did not he did not survive it was tragic a car accident and didn't know that it was him or that it was a car accident oh yeah it's also just like tragic okay well again this reaffirms Karen you are very very in tune that you have this

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ability again at the story of Sam too like that is very much what medium psychics are capable of doing they get these messages they can give them to other people and then the fact that this you experience this feeling way before this ever happened which again emphasizes this idea of like timelines things all happening at once I feel the same way though that so many other people have who actually like do receive these messages where it's really frustrating and it's heartbreaking and it kind of haunts you for the rest of your life to know that you knew something but you didn't know enough details to save the person to to let someone know or to try to intervene like it feels kind of unfair of the universe to to give you bits and pieces of it right because then it's like but yeah why like why even give it to me if I can't do anything to prevent it I but I don't even know if the universe is giving it to you I think you just pick up on it and unfortunately

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downloaded it are some things that we have no power or ability to change but all I will say Corinne and I know that that story hurt you know is difficult for you but this episode the fact that it is an hour and a half long and we are only halfway through your experiences pretty much I just want to emphasize your Guardians and like reiterate what they've been saying because you are so incredibly powerful I think you really need to spend the time working on this I know I know I know I say that in like an exasperated tone but it's because Sabrina you and I in the past year have had what like three three tarot card readings I guess every single one of my readings is the same or it's basically my Spirit guides

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being like you gotta tap into it and in the last reading we had what was interesting was I always think to myself like oh well I don't have time or like I I just feel so busy like what who has time to meditate for like 15 minutes and then learn all these other things a day that's it I I know it feels heavy it feels heavy it's like hard for me to build new habits it definitely is yeah but what's interesting in our last rating was that that the the reader was the psychic like in the middle of saying another thought and another thing was like sorry the your spirit rides are are coming back again and they said you really need to do it like it's not a big deal to take 10 minutes a day and they basically were like telling me stop making excuses and so let's do it I will hold you accountable okay what's that I better just if I'm gonna do it I better be so damn good at it that I I can give

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accurate messages when I need to well you got to practice otherwise the only way you get there is if you practice yes everyone send Vibes to Korean that she has to do this bully me on the internet into into becoming more in tune with my own abilities yeah I mean I have blocked a lot of them off over time I think there's been moments in the podcast where I've gotten really spooked and I've tried to block things off or it just it's sometimes just like emotionally exhausting to open yourself up and like take on other people's emotions and to not know like what's gonna wake you up in the middle of the night and what's going to be around the next corner and it just takes a lot of extra energy so sometimes it is easier to just like block myself off then it's hard to unblock what you need is a mentor do you want to be my mentor I can't I don't know anything I don't have powers I think you need to find someone who is like tapped in who knows what they're

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doing I've gone through it yeah someone who knows how to protect yourself all those things who can help guide you through this process of learning and growing yeah channeling but channeling until then we'll follow along on this journey until then I'll ask for updates and we'll get a part two of this episode because Corinne is haunted as f as F AF yeah and I'll I'll write out part two a bit better because I I was like oh and I was like here's my random timeline nope okay stop being mean to yourself stop no no take it back you're brilliant okay that was an incredible episode oh and don't be sorry for part two of my experiences thank you I think part two of my experiences will be all the more exciting as well because it does include many encounters that I experienced

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alongside you so there are a few Corinne and Sabrina experiences for part two yeah okay lovely and then we'll do the Sabrina special yes yes yes yes I have to write those down too but until then there are so many ways for you to support us email us your encounters uh to two girls one ghost podcast gmail.com so we can have a you episode and then follow us on social media and rate and review us on iTunes and join our patreon there's so many fun bonuses this will be on patreon first so if you're listening hi um and then it will come out on a regular feed and what else um merch by merch huh pyramid scheme you know you know oh yeah thank you to our editors at fire digital and thank you to all of you for listening yes thank you and we do hope that we get

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to meet you and see you on this side but if we do not we will see you on the other side