TWIN FLAMES & GHOST LOVERS | Paranormal Love Stories Beyond the Grave | Valentine’s Special (x318)

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She was naked. She's like, "Close your eyes."

Yeah, there's no foreplay. She's just like, "Here I am.

If you would like it,

close your eyes." [laughter]

But this is a Valentine's themed and love themed

encounter episode.

Yeah. Yeah.

Very spooky.

Do you feel that?

The electricity between us,

the love in the air.

Oh yeah, I do.

The romance. I should have worn pink today.

I made our lights pink.

Romance can also be dead. [laughter] Yeah. And my sweatshirt says, "I had to make you uncomfortable, otherwise you never would have moved."

Love the universe. With love, the universe doesn't let you. The universe doesn't

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give you peace in something that you are not meant to stay in.

I really like that color on you, too. I feel like every time you wear a color like this, I say, "I like this color on you."

This color, this red

periwinkle.

Well, it's interesting because I own like this color, red, and black and white. like that's it. Like I don't really own any other colors. You know those

swatches keyword because you also do a lot of um like newly rentals cuz I feel like every time someone's like I love what you're wearing, you're like well it's [laughter]

this is not this is from my closet but I'm curious like you know how they have those like swatches where it's like are you a summer? Are you an autumn? Are you fall? I'm like I don't know what I am.

Oh my gosh. I'm trying to remember. I need to phone a friend which is my cousin Laney who I feel like Laney and I have very similar skin. And we both have like the green Portuguese skin. [laughter]

We're both green,

the perogi.

But she was just in a wedding where like the makeup artist was also did like color analysis and just like told them when she was doing makeup was just like, "Oh yeah, like here's your colors."

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That's just like a bonus.

I think she said she was a I can't remember if it was like a true autumn or like a soft a it was in the autumns.

We should do Okay, so on our list, past life sleep progression, which we've had on our list.

The list of things and then color analysis. and then color analysis, [laughter]

which is nothing to do with paranormal, but it's just good for life.

But this is a Valentine's themed and love themed

encounters episode.

I have a kind of a long one

that I thought I could start us with.

Great.

Did we introduce ourselves?

This is two girls, one ghost.

Two girls, one ghost. And we're ghostesses. That's Karen. I'm Sabrina. And we love all of you.

We love love

We love you

so much. I love you. I love you. I love you.

Say it back. [laughter]

You say you love us and then we say how much.

How much? And then you scream and say so much.

How much? [laughter]

Take your I love you. Whoa. [laughter]

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All right.

Yeah. So, this is a really, really beautiful story. I'll get into it. It's not really necessarily romantic love, but it is twinflame

like

connected souls

and a little bit of string theory.

Very appropriate for well, not for anyone else, but for us because yesterday we had campfire stories and Tom was talking about twinflame.

And then also, I just feel like with Valentine's Day, it's important to also remember platonic love and like friendship love and like

I like the way you said platonic

platonic. You said play tonic and it it felt

you play with your tonics.

It just like felt very

It felt like we were talking about the is it tectonic plates.

Am I butchering it? Is that what it is?

The tectonic plates underneath

in Earth.

Yeah. Pangia.

Pangia.

We love Earth. We love you.

We love you.

We love twin flames.

All right. So, everyone buckle up. Sit

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your ass down. And

we went from love to demands. How quickly a relationship can change. Say it back. [laughter] You can never leave. Okay, this is from Caroline and

twin flame

it does say best if read before April 14th and this was sent in 2023. So, sorry.

What was happening in April 14th?

Um, I don't know. Let's see. Um, I've been hemming and hawing over whether or not to sit down and write y'all my tail. Perhaps it's a waste of time. I thought, who cares? Maybe I'm making a bigger deal than it actually is. But then a sign appeared to me that told me, "No, Caroline. If something is on your mind, it's there for a reason. Please, everyone, include your inner dialogue in your emails. I love this.

After being off of Instagram for over a year, I felt compelled to pop back on and check into some newer folks I've been listening to. I found y'all through Morbid through the crossover episode, and I work as a painter and carpenter, both of houses and of fine art.

Oh, wow. [laughter]

So, I have lots of hours of dead airspace by myself to fill. And being a spooky witchy gal myself, I was

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delighted to discover your podcast. So, I looked you up on Instagram, not really sure why I was doing it, but like I was compelled to do it.

And I saw one of your recent postings for a live show in Portland, Maine on April 14th. Oh, that was what April 14th. And that is when I knew I had to tell my story. So, buckle up, buttercups, as I attempt to weave this tapestry and narrate the story of how I met my soulmate or twin flame, how he passed, but also how I know he's very much still with me. Even more so, I want to discuss the incredible magic and mysteries of the universe and how the mystery seems to unravel once you start to notice the signs, which only makes it more complex and harder to comprehend. Okay. Do you believe in fate, free will, magnetism? I would love to listen to you girls pontificate about it all. So, attached you'll find my tail. Well, you would like the invisible string theory episode we did last year, which last year is 2025, but I think I'm thinking of 2024. Just search Two Girls One Ghost Invisible String Theory and it will come up. Okay,

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background. My name is Caroline. I'm from [snorts] a small town in Mid Coast, Maine. And when I was 19, I moved to Portland, Maine. Shortly after moving to the city, I had a creative awakening followed by a long dark night of the soul that led me through a painful and traumatic time in my life. But this was the first time that I started to see beyond the veil, understanding more than this three-dimensional reality. Eventually, I got my feet back under me and I resumed my role as a functional member of society. I was working at a Thai restaurant, attending university, studying anthropology and studio art, and living in a precious one-bedroom that I found after getting evicted during that dark night of the soul. Sorry. I was head over heels in love with the bad boy leatherclad, cigarette smoking, whiskey drinking, motorcycle riding bouncer who worked across the street at the rock club where I spent most nights attending heavy metal and punk shows after work.

Oh, hell yeah. It is a relationship I do not remember fondly and afterwards led to another painful dark night of the soul. But this man would play an

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important role in meeting who is my soulmate. So he's not a total waste of space in regards to this tale and my life. See some people are put in your life to help you move to the next one.

Exactly.

Some are total wastes of space, but some aren't.

But even when they're waste of space, I feel like they do teach you something. Okay. Beginning of the end, part one. It was the ule season of 2018 and I was out looking for my gifts for my best friend Samantha and my now ex. Samantha and I met in Vermont at a wilderness rehabilitation program. We were the only women there for most of the time, so we bonded. One of the outings we did in Vermont was at this old Victorian era farmhouse that had been restored and maintained as a historical site. I believe it's called the Billings Farm and Museum, but

Oh, in Woodstock.

You know it?

Yeah. My bachelorette.

You went to this farm? Yes, that was part of my best bet and we churned butter.

I am so sad I missed it. I [laughter] I literally missed it for my cousin Samantha's wedding.

Oh, here we go. Was it just Samantha?

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[laughter]

Samantha and I were both moody teenagers who wanted nothing to do with anything at the time. We both shared a gothic macob taste for life. So, as we were touring around this farmhouse with our group of other fellow troubled youth, Sam begins to point out to me all of the dead people and all the old family photos on the wall. She taught me all about post-morbid photography, which was very popular in the Victorian era. Since this photography was in its infancy at the time, it was expensive and only happened on particularly novel occasions, like when someone died. This was the most exciting piece of information I ever learned on that tour. And for the remainder of their tour, Sam and I eagerly went around pointing out all the dead people in the photographs. And the tour [clears throat] guide was definitely not thrilled about this.

Wait, I wish I knew that when I was there. Like I never think to actually look at if there are any like postmortem photos included.

Got to go back.

Yeah. Well, just like anywhere now. I'm going to be on the lookout. So, with this in mind, you can imagine I was not looking for any old gift for my spooky

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best friend and my metal X head and my metal head X. Metal X head. There was this incredible antique shop on High Street in Portland called Found Antiques. and I had been in once or twice before and decided to wander in that day during my search for gifts. Now, this store is the size of a shoe box, but it is stuffed full of oddities, antiques, and jewelry. You could barely see the floor and had to tiptoe around so as not to step on or knock into anything. That is the hardest thing about winter.

Mhm.

Wearing your coat and like being so bundled up and like being anywhere, you just feel like you're

most anywhere you like. Yeah. So, there were Tiffany lamps, a box of rusty antique door hinges, incredibly beautiful jewelry, both old and new, oil paintings, unusual vintage posters. It's this time capsule of bizarre, forgotten, salvaged, and cherished items that I've always had a soft spot for. I always visited antique shops throughout my life, but this one felt so special. As I tiptoed around the simultaneously carefully curated and

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chaotic piles, stacks, and nooks, something caught my eye. There was a small 5x7 framed black and white photo of a man presumably dead being propped up and posed with his hands in a waving position by this metal contraption while another man took his portrait with this massive old camera. It had like the cone and box. Instantly, I was intrigued and excited by this post-morbid find and I took it to the counter where a man stood. This counter was a big vintage glass jewelry case full of loose papers, projects, jewelry, and other odds and ends. And the man behind the jewelry case was older with a soft white low ponytail peeking out of his bowler style hat. He had thick framed blue tortois shell glasses that magnified his twinkling eyes. He was tinkering with a beaded bracelet and looked up and greeted me with a warm smile. I asked him about the photo that I had found and he proceeded to tell me it was actually an old advertisement used to advertise postmorbid photography.

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Interesting. I didn't even think of that. It was the person actually dead then in the ad.

That's interesting. They didn't have to pay him then.

Did you pay a family? Like what?

I don't know.

How do you back in those days? People were grave robbing, not stealing any and not paying anyone. So this was even better than I could have imagined. I told him about my love of post-morbid photography and how I wanted to get this photo as a gift for my friend Sam and how Sam [clears throat] had taught me about it. He looked a little taken aback and responded that he also loved post-mid photography. And then he took out a large collection of antique tint types and small portraits, flipping through them, pointing out all of them people who were dead in them. I never thought about tin types,

right? Cuz they're just so difficult and so expensive to make. Yeah, but the person won't move because they're dead.

That's true.

Yeah, we have tin types behind us right now.

Yeah, us and you

and you over there out of view. [laughter]

Okay, this man told me he loves to go

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around to all the local antique shops and look for these photos because most people don't know about them and don't realize how valuable they actually are. He continued to tell me that oftentimes families during the Victorian era would take family portraits with the dead relatives before they were buried. The dead were dressed in clothes, propped up and posed, often with paint on their cheeks, and they would also paint eyes over their closed lids. Post-orbid solo portraits were common, as well as family portraits with the deceased. There are also many of babies and young children, as well as adults. [clears throat] You have to have a trained eye to spot the tells of post-orbid photography, but once you know what to look for, it is a delightful scavenger hunt. They're often included in bins of old photos that are just $5 and they're actually collector's items and worth way more.

Wait, now we need to know.

I know. I feel like when both you and I are in antique stores, I feel like

we just got to

Yeah, but I I feel like I never buy any of the photos, but that's I spend a lot of time sifting through the people.

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I'm always looking for like a doppelganger.

Yes,

me too. Or like someone that you feel just like suddenly a strong connection with and you're like, "Oh my god, I have to research this person. Is this a relative effect? Who is she?

But I haven't been called to anyone yet.

So, here I am like a kitten in a man's lap listening to him talk. He was so charismatic and animated and captivating talking about this spooky, morbid subject that I was so fascinated by. I told him that I was also looking for a gift for my rock and roll ex. And he told me he would happily print and frame another copy of the image for me so I could give the same gift to both of them. We agreed upon that time that I would return to the shop the next day to get the photo. and he said he would print and frame it for me that night. I left the shop feeling like I was high. That energetic surge I got from this encounter was uniquely exhilarating. I love that.

I know.

The next day, I returned to the shop to collect my treasure and see my new friend. And he seemed a little surprised to see me. When I asked why, he told me that most people who make plans with him don't follow through.

Oh.

Oh,

that's sad. But it's also now I'm

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suddenly skeptical. But also, I feel like it's in Portland, Maine, like maybe like she would have found another gift somewhere else like

or it's like tourist or whatever like, "Oh, I'm going to come back for [clears throat] this tomorrow." And then they just never

I feel like at a store like that.

See, I assume like she had already paid for it, especially cuz he was making another print and she was just coming to pick it up.

He often found himself going out of his way to do nice things for people only to have them not show up.

H classic New England.

But there I was, smiling and on time. He asked me about myself and I told him that I was an anthropology student and an aspiring artist and that I worked around the corner as a waitress and he perked up learning all about this and responded to me by offering me a job at his shop. Wow. Working with him at the antique shop part-time because it was just him there and he was desperate for the right person's help. I was so flattered and excited about this proposition, but I told him I needed to think about it before committing to anything. We exchanged contact information and shook hands. And that was the time, the moment where I really met him. Flick, my twin flame.

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Flick.

The flicker of a flame.

They had never like exchanged names, you know. I was seriously debating this offer. Even though my gut instinct was to immediately accept it, I needed to think about it. But I was and still am a recovering workaholic who was always trying to do the most and do it best. So, I was trying to be careful about not overfilling my schedule.

I didn't want to enter another dark night of the soul moment. So, when I told my ex of the job offer, he encouraged me to accept it because he thought that shop was badass. Well, shucks. That's all I needed to hear to throw my visions off balance and stability out the window. I reached out to Flick to accept the part-time position. And our love story was well underway. I was nervous about my first day of work at Found. I tried on several different outfits before I found the right one that said professional, edgy, gothic, chic, antique. And when I arrived at the shop, Flick excitedly greeted me and explained what he'd liked me to do. My primary duties at first were to dust and tidy the shop. There

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was a monumental amount of dust that blanketed the shop, making even the modern fixtures like they were enshrouded in a cloak of antiquity. Flick always used to joke that he does not charge customers extra for the authentic antique dust every item collects during its time in the shop. I worked my way around the space, dusting, windexing, and noticing all of the treasures that my eyes had formerly passed by. Moving the items around, I unearthed longforgotten pieces. And from time to time, I would ask Flick about them, and he would tell me its story, because every item in that shop had a story. Many of them were things Flick had collected throughout his lifetime. There was a history, a personal anecdote, or a fun fact for everything. I began to notice how many of the other customers who came in were not actually there to shop. Sure, they would do a cursory look around, but so many of them would come in just to talk to Flick. Like he what a beautiful soul.

Yeah, truly. He's he's a local.

Yeah. Some customers came daily on their lunch break to bring Flick a cup of hot chocolate and talk to him. You see,

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Flick had this unique gift of connecting with people like I had never seen before in my life. When he talked with you, you had this full unwavering attention. He showed a genuine kindness and compassion that is unmatched. Not only did he make people feel seen and cared for, he had an incredible sense of humor. He made people laugh. And on top of this, he was just a bizarre, quirky man who lived so authentically in his own skin. And it was not only magnetic to be around, but it was thoroughly entertaining. And we do have photos of Flick that we can add in. At this point, I had been working at Found for a few months with Flick, and we really started to get to know one another. One day while I was rearranging a case in the front of the shop, Flick and I were chatting and it was a particularly slow day and I can't quite recall what caused this, but I mentioned something about my birthday. Flick being the curious and compassionate fellow that he was, responded by asking me when my birthday was. April 14th. Oh, that's why April 14th, which is also the day

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that we had the show in Portland,

right? Serendipitous.

He stopped his tinkering and looked at me gobsmacked. That's my birthday, too. What? Oh my god. We both looked at each other and for a moment the facade of our surroundings and space and time completely vanished and then there was only each other. Like we had finally pieced the last clue of the puzzle together and we realized in that moment that we belonged together.

I love that.

Neither of us had ever met anyone who shared our birthday. Not that it's particularly special or unique. And I'm sure many listeners who are listening also have April 14th birthdays. Hello all you April 14th rock stars. But something about the situation seems special to have met in such an unexpecting yet profound way. And to have felt a connection with one another that only strengthened once we found out we shared a birthday. So there we were, two souls who came into this world on the same day, separated by vast gaps of time and space. And somehow we managed to find our way back to each other. Flick was born in Selma, Alabama. His

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government name was Thomas, but his father nicknamed each of his children after forms of light because his father's name was Ray. So Thomas was given the nickname Flick. His siblings were Beam and Glimmer. That's so cute.

Oh wow.

Flick, Beam, and Glimmer.

They're very unique. I was thinking more like Sunny and Ray. And he's Ray.

He's Ray. Beamer.

And I've only ever heard Flick talk of his siblings by these names. Even though his father was straight laced, religious, a military man, I thought this showed an interesting, unexpected artistic flare. Flare is also a nickname that could could work.

Spark. Spark.

There's so many.

Sparky. Oh, Sparky.

A little dog name.

The dog was Sparky.

Yeah. And Flick certainly had an artistic flare. Flick studied theater. He became a drag queen in New York City in the 70s and 80s. His stage name was Sweet and Sour.

Oh, that's

He made all of his own costumes. He choreographed all of the performances for other companies and performers and his partner Tom was the business end of

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the operation.

Some people are just so creative.

I know when you see a picture of Flick too, you're like, "Oh,

I looked. I was like, "Oh, this makes total sense. He looks so cool."

And Flick was the creative genius. He had a number of shops and boutiques that he opened in New York City as well. Every piece of information I learned about Flick made me fall in love with him even more. And there were so many parallels in our lives and personalities that it was impossible to ignore. Funny thing is, since I was a kid, I dreamt of going to New York City and becoming a fashion designer to live there. I did not go in that direction with my life, but it's interesting that I was so drawn to it. Flick and I also attended the same university, many years apart, of course, and we didn't discover this until years later. Beyond this, we also had a dramatic flare, strong aesthetic, desire to create, a fiery sense of humor. The list goes on. Flick was also drawn to anything with black cats. There were many antiques and pieces of art that featured the black cat at found, which was odd because Flick didn't have a black cat, but guess who did? I did. A black cat that I've raised from birth

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twin flame cont'd

So, yeah, Flick and I were growing very, very close. We became more than just co-workers. We were family. And when his health started to decline, I managed the shop for him. I felt myself mirroring Flick as I tried to fill his shoes. There was a witty, compassionate, charismatic side to myself that had always been there, but was now amplified. Flick taught me how to be

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myself in a way that I had never been able to before. I love this. At this point, the pandemic was in full swing. Business was dreadful, and Flick's health was a serious concern. He decided to close the shop in the summer of 2020, and it was heartbreaking for both of us. After the shop closed, our relationship transformed into something even more precious. The thing that had brought us together had disintegrated. But in that time, I just it's beautiful. We had interwoven our lives together in a way that we could never really be apart from one another again. We talked on the phone regularly. His voicemails and texts were the best love notes I may ever receive. He was my rock when my toxic relationship started breaking me down. And I didn't realize it, but I was his rock, too. Something else we both share is that underneath our warm, charismatic, humorous shell is a deep well of pain and trauma. He confided in me and I and him. Flick understood my dark night of the soul in a way that no one ever had. He had been through

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something similar. We both knew what it felt like not to want to be alive anymore. Flick saw me unraveling. And even though he was also unraveling in his own way, he was there for me unequivocally in his unrelenting support, his unrelenting love, admiration, and non-judgment. I finally got out of that relationship. And you know how I did it? My birthday. Our birthday wasn't exactly 1 month. And I had an epiphany that the best gift I could give myself was freedom. It was not easy and had a long road of recovery after leaving this relationship. But that year, a month after our May breakup, Flick and I celebrated our birthday together in my apartment with my mom and Tom. And here's a fun fact. Tom and my mom have birthdays that are days apart. This was the last birthday Flick and I celebrated together on this plane of existence. But it was a splendid occasion. I was in a fragile state, but Flick and Tom rolled out the red carpet for me, making me feel like a goddess. and it felt like we were family. There was so much laughter and love at that table. That summer, I

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officially entered into my third dark night of the soul and Flick quite literally saved my life. I was such a mess I had to leave my apartment in southern Maine altogether to return home to the mid coast and regained my steadiness. I moved into my grandmother's house for the winter while she was in Florida and I just focused on my healing. Flick and I still talked regularly over the phone and we would text. We couldn't meet in person as regular because of his health and mine quite honestly and the distance between us, but we did occasionally make it happen. In late November of 2021, around my mom and Tom's birthdays, we met for brunch halfway between us. We hadn't seen each other in a while. I was doing much better, but Flick's health had seriously declined. He told me he was so excited for our get together that he had picked out his outfit the night before. He was wearing his new faux oa. I don't know how to say that. Fur coat. There's a photo. And it was quite the look, especially in small town Maine. [laughter]

But that is what I loved about Flick. He was so unapologetically himself. He was

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so full of energy, warmth, and light. And I'll never forget the feeling of this hug or the way it felt to hold his hands and look into his eyes like we talked like we were the only two people on the planet. We laughed so much it was nearly impossible to leave each other. We only left because the restaurant literally kicked us out while they were closing. Here's the text he sent me that day after we met. See if I can read it without crying.

I know. Oh, my scrumptious love. I glowed on the way home and after, not even wanting to sleep on the drive home. What a wonder and joy it was to see and be with you, Caroline. I am so pleased to see the result of you taking care taking better care of yourself. OMG, the day was so much like so many times before. And although we both have things to do, I see great hope for every day in every way ahead. Like, get this tattooed on yourself. My god.

I know this is very poetic.

And also like they just they feel like twins separated at birth. Like got [clears throat] reconnected.

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I will be there as ever right by your side. Love, all is good here. And I love you. Who could want for anything more ever? Thank you for brunch and for giving the favor of your splendor at my elbow. I find it impossible to believe that I could love you anymore. But I'll keep trying just in case I missed a morsel. Oh my god, now I'm going to start crying. That's so beautiful. Wow. The next morning, early around 8:00 a.m., I got a call from Tom. My heart sank like a rock in my stomach, but I answered. As soon as I heard the quiver in Tom's voice, I knew what he had to say before the words came out. Flick passed early that morning on December 2nd, 2021. I dropped to my knees and screamed, feeling like my insides were being ripped apart. The initial blow of the news left me feeling incapacitated. But I was so glad that I got to see him and hug him and laugh with him days before he passed. And this monumental love note that I had from him, it's [clears throat] like he instinctually knew the timing. Even though the initial

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blow was agonizing, there was this incredible healing within me that happened after Flick's death. That day, I pledged to honor Flick's memory by taking the best care of myself possible so that I could live a life I would want Flick to see. It fueled incredible personal growth and transformation. As time passed and my mom and I met Tom for brunch for the first time since Flick's death, Tom told us some interesting tidbits about Flick's passing. Flick had a habit of watching late night television, like always at 2:00 a.m. to 4:00 a.m. It was his sweet spot. And Flick and Tom lived in a building that had been converted from a mill building into large studio apartments. After Flick's passing, some neighbors reported their TVs turning on between the hours of 2:00 a.m. and 4:00 a.m.

What? Oh my gosh.

And they all loved Flick. So, it was like Flick going to say hi,

giving a little message.

Yeah. One day, maybe a few months after Flick's passing, my mom and I were sitting at a dining room table in my grandmother's house. And it was the same

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room that I answered the call from Tom in when he informed me of Flick's death. And my mom and I were talking about Flick, about all the incredible and otherworldly aspects of our dynamic and his passing. And I had a tradition of painting Flick a birthday card every year for our special day. He loved cards and he collected them. So I knew that if I made something by hand that was different than anything he could buy or find would be more meaningful. One year I painted a still life of two tapered candles, both burning but at different heights with a candle snuffer between them. I wrote on the back a poem that essentially said that the candles represented Flick and I. Two Aries fire babies burning at different heights due to our different ages and the snuffer was the inevitability that death would eventually separate us. I painted this years before his passing. He proudly framed it and had it in his bedroom. So over the years, I continued this theme of the tapering candles on the cards. So there my mother and I are talking about Flick at the table when all of a sudden a tapered candle on my altar shoots out

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of its holder and onto the table. This thing had been melted into place. It wasn't like it was loose or easy to remove. So my mother was stunned and I laughed. We both realized it was Flick. He was right by our sides, just like he said he would always be in his final text to me. I often see strange flashes of light in the sky when I think about Flick. I can close my eyes and I see him or hear him. I've had dreams about him as well. There are so many signs for me to know that I'm never really alone. Well, if you made it this far, thank you for your time. I think it gives us so much to ponder about our soul families, love that transcends lifetimes, and how two souls can remain connected between the realms, and the mystery behind it all. You never know where something will lead. I consider this my love note to Flick, a way to honor his memory and the impact he made in my life. When April 14th comes, happiest of birthdays to you, my dear friend. Thank you for reading, Sabrina and Karen. See you on the other side, Caroline. Also, Caroline

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ends it saying, "I seriously considered trying to figure out how I could take a post-morbid photo with Flick's corpse because I thought that would have been the most appropriate way to honor him, but I realized not everyone shared our dark sense of humor, and I didn't [laughter] want to offend anyone from Caroline."

Dang.

Is that not the most beautiful?

It is, but it's also like it's so painful at the same time. Like, I feel I feel her pain,

Tom.

I know.

To to feel so connected and so much love and like so like finally understood and at peace whenever you're with this other person.

Yeah.

God, it would be so hard to

I know to say goodbye.

Yeah. I can't imagine that.

But like it's one of those things where what a gift to know them.

Yeah.

The alternative is that you've never you never knew them and you never knew that love and that bond and that connection,

right?

And I'd much rather know it and have it and lose it. Said they saved each other.

Yeah. [snorts] I love Flick and I love you,

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Caroline.

Dang, we're beautiful souls.

I don't even know what to say. There's nothing to add. It's just beautiful. Like so perfect. Yeah.

If so poetic, so like deeply felt. I mean, you were crying the whole time and I was like,

my heart was like crumbling. It felt like he was being squeezed. Damn. How do we go on?

Well, the next story I have is more of like a funny, sexy one. [snorts] So,

okay,

we'll end with that.

Helix

A good night's sleep is so important. And I feel like the older you get, the more time [laughter] that you spend in your bed, you realize like what a quality mattress you need. And for Sabrina and I, we have been sleeping on Helix mattresses for the past few years. In fact, we love Helix so much. We have put Helix mattresses in all of the rooms that we have. We have gifted them to relatives. Sabrina got one for her brother. I got one for my grandparents. They are seriously so comfortable. And one of the great things is you can take a quiz on the Helix website and it's very quick, but it

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takes into consideration your personal preferences. So, it's like, how do you sleep? Are you a side sleeper? Stomach, back, do you sleep with someone else? Do you sleep hot? Do you sleep cold? And then it matches you with the perfect mattress for you. So, Sabrina and I between the two of us, we have the Moonlight and the Midnight. And I also ordered the Sunlight for my guest bedroom. And if you trust us and you're looking for a new mattress, definitely go try Helix. Go to helixleep.com/tg for 27% off sitewide. They're having a President's Day sale. That's helixleep.com/tg for 27% off sitewide. Make sure you enter our show name after checkout so that they know that we sent you. That's helixleep.com/tg.

invisible string

I have a story called Invisible String Theory. Great. Hello lovely ghostesses. I'm currently watching the episode on Invisible String Theory. It's on a 75 in TV. You both look beautiful. [laughter] Thanks. Thanks. My favorite love story.

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My husband and I have known each other since high school, so about 14 years now. I didn't think much of him while we were in high school, but after we both graduated and he joined the Air Force, he became infinitely more attractive to me. I have a weakness for men in a uniform.

Isn't that Air Force Buzz? Yeah.

Is that what it's called? Don't they like buzz their hair?

Oh, I I thought that was like the term of like being into air force hair buzz.

Oh, no. I just made that up.

Yeah. I was like, whoa, I didn't know. My older sister married his older half brother. It sounds weird, but we joke that now we're sister wives and brother husbands.

That's like Jerry and Sarah.

Yeah. It's so weird cuz I like literally looked up. Tell me if we already read this cuz I swear we've read this, but I was looking up our email and we It's the only email. So,

this doesn't sound familiar. Maybe I've just read it so many times.

Yeah.

In my own like saved inbox. We really like to say this just to make our parents uncomfortable.

And me and my husband were told to never date because when we broke up, it would be so awkward for everyone else in the

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family.

The unequivocal knowledge that we would break up eventually really made me question my dating life at the time. So, I prayed to God asking if there was someone out there for me. And I heard a voice say, "Yes, there is. You know him." Florida reptile keeper. That's so specific. Florida reptile keeper.

The last two were just a kind of a jumbled whisper, almost like the connection was cutting out. And at the time, I was a zookeeper, so I thought, "Oh, well, maybe I need to move to Florida and date a reptile keeper, [laughter] but I didn't know any keepers in Florida."

You know what's so weird? This is so random. Yesterday when I was driving here for our recording, I just got so like consumed with this thought that what if someone in my apartment building has like a pet tarantula and like I got terrified by the feeling of like not knowing that someone in my building would have a pet tarantula and like what if it got loose and like wound up in my apartment? Like what would I do about it? Like out of the blue.

That's such an intrusive thought.

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It's such an intrusive thought.

But you don't normally have intrusive thoughts and now I kind of believe that someone has a trans.

Oh, I have I intrusive thoughts all the time.

Like that?

Yeah. But that one like it was

you never you never take talk about it

because I keep them inside.

Oh wow. Maybe I should start.

I keep everything inside.

I just tell my interest of thoughts.

Yeah.

Oh jeez.

Yeah.

But so [clears throat] I don't know. Stay tuned.

I hope not. But Leia will probably

a tarantula that's like as big as Leia.

Yeah. But yeah, but if you keep them as pets, aren't they like no longer poisonous?

They're ter I'm talking about the terror.

Oh yeah. the the width of them.

Yeah. Like you might see you might see a spider that's like like the size of like a fingernail and I see King Kong.

It's terrifying. You know what I hate about New England?

What?

It feels like it's the safe area from giant spiders. But doc spiders. Oh my god.

Like spiders that laid eggs, infested your car, and destroyed it.

Oh yeah. I literally had to get a new

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car cuz spiders were in my last car.

Yeah.

That was crazy. terrifying.

But now in Maine at my Grammys, like there's a dock. You swim out to the dock and we're all out 30 feet from shore, a dock spider comes up from underneath it and is on the dock with us, which is like I don't know, maybe 9 by 9. It's not super huge and there's a few of us on there. We scream. We all jump in the water.

We're swimming where it came from. Well, now it's on the dock. So, we're like swimming for shore. I'm like maybe 4 feet off of the dock right now. And we're all getting in. And I turn back and this spider jumps in with us and is starting to move the same direction.

No, absolutely not.

I thought I was gonna die.

Absolutely not. [snorts] [sighs] [gasps]

You're welcome to everyone who has arachnophobia and is listening.

Okay,

back to the reptile keeper.

Back to [laughter] the reptile keeper. I don't know any keepers in Florida, so it was a bit puzzling, but I was in my late 20s and I decided to just put it on the back burner for a while. While I healed from an abusive relationship that I had recently left and was working on my

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mental health, I decided to start taking care of myself by going to therapy, finding things I enjoyed, and learning to be okay with doing things alone. A few months later, I went to my brother-in-law's basic training graduation. This brother-in-law is now my husband's half-brother. So, my now husband was also at the graduation. We reconnected and we got to talking. That old flame, for at least me, was rekindled. While we were chatting it up, he mentioned that he was stationed in Florida and there was a zoo near him that I should consider applying to since I'd mentioned that I was looking to get out of my current job and wanted to work in a different zoo. The next day, I checked their website and saw that they did have a zookeeper position available for a bird and reptile keeper. It instantly clicked. That jumbled sort of disconnected response wasn't saying that my future husband was a reptile keeper in Florida. It was saying I knew him. He lived in Florida and a reptile keeper position would get me there so that we

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could be together.

I got the job. We moved in together within two months of talking and we have been together for 5 years. No.

After we started dating, I found out that we also went to the same elementary school for a year and at our siblings wedding. Just the word siblings wedding without like [laughter] the context before.

We walked down the aisle together as bridesmaid and groomsmen.

At the time, we never would have guessed that just 10 years later we would be walking down the aisle again together, but at our wedding as bride and groom. Oh.

Another crazy connection that reminded me of the string theory is with my parents. My parents divorced when I was about 3 years old. My dad remarried when I was seven and my mom remarried when I was 10. Years after my mom had married my stepdad, we found out that my dad and stepdad had lived in the same apartment complex right after my parents' divorce.

Weird.

We were basically neighbors with our future stepdad and we never knew it.

And even weirder, it turns out my stepdad's dad was high school friends

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with my dad's mom. They had pictures together from high school.

I love that.

I know. I believe our stepdad was always meant to have a role in our lives and the fact that there were kind of two bizarre connections with my dad had solidified that. I feel so lucky to have two great father role models and they share a really nice friendship as well. Anywh who, those are my two experiences with the invisible string theory. Not sure how to sign off an email to one of my favorite podcasts. So da da da um love

love you. Bye. [laughter]

Finally

from Angela. make us big.

How great is that?

I love like the, "Oh, am I gonna marry a reptile keeper in Florida?" But it's like

I know that's the thing about getting messages like that is like when you first get it and same with like astrology and interpreting your charts and stuff like

what might seem like a weird message

or a message that like at the time you're reading as one specific in one

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specific way

actually means something else.

Yeah. And then there's one more email from Angela. It's called My Cat is Obsessed with You. This isn't a story, just some fun pictures of my cats literally being obsessed with Leia and with Sabrina. [laughter] While watching the replay of the live Sabrina did about the object she bought in Salem at the thrift store, Leia meowed, and my cat Theo came running into the room and proceeded to sit on the TV and watch her and Sabrina for the rest of the episode.

So cute. He would follow Leia around the screen, paw at her or Sabrina's hand if he wanted to get your attention, and when it ended, he jumped up to get closer to the TV to see where you both went. He loves you. We love you. Keep being amazing, Angie. And also, CEO. So cute. Wait, I've actually seen multiple people have sent us photos of their pets who go crazy. Either there's like videos where when our intro music plays, the pets like will howl with it. There's also videos and like photos of again like similar like cats like coming up to the screen like pawing at it. [laughter]

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So send us those photos. We'll post like a carousel of them on our Instagram.

did I lose my virginity to a ghost?

Okay. I have a story. It's a short one. This is from our listener Sarah and it's called Did I lose my virginity to a ghost? Hey ghostesses. My name is Sarah. Yes, you can say it because it's not my real name. Anyway, I've been listening for a while now and I know that Sabrina likes sexy ghost stories and so I thought I would share mine. I love them. [snorts] Okay, so at the time of the story, I was 19 and I was late to doing the sex thing mostly because I just wasn't interested and I was much more on track in softball than I was on boys. Plus, I wasn't even sure I liked boys. But every time I would imagine a girl that got me going. I'm clairvoyant and have been seeing and communicating with ghosts since I was a little girl. Thankfully, most of my experiences have been positive, but there are a few that have scared me. More on those later. I was laying in bed one night, and it was around 8 or 9:00 p.m., and I was just doom scrolling Reddit or Instagram, I forget which, when I looked up, and at

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the door of my bedroom, I saw a woman. A naked woman. It shocked me at first because what? And then I realized I'm seeing a ghost, which is also shocking because I've never seen a naked ghost before.

Yes. I kind of didn't know they could come naked. And then I felt wisps of air traveling up my thighs. Since I had never done anything like this before, the feeling sent me. Mind you, I was underneath a thick comforter and wearing sweatpants. Anyway, I got the image in my head of someone closing their eyes, and I took that as a sign that the ghost wanted me to close my eyes. So, I did. And the moment my eyes closed, I felt the most sensational, intense, explosive feeling I have ever felt before in my life. It was so warm, so gentle, so everything that I had ever imagined. And before I knew it, it was done. I was done. I think maybe it lasted only 15 to 20 seconds, but it was enough for me just to melt. And I still think about it. 11 years later, I have never felt

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anything as intense as I did that night. That's wild. Thanks for reading. I'll pee my pants if you read this on the podcast. Sarah,

that's amazing.

Amazing.

It's like it happened so quick. It was also confirmation of the desire and attraction towards women.

Yep.

And also, I love that this woman just showed up and she was naked. She's like, "Close your eyes."

Yeah. There's no foreplay. She's just like, "Here I am."

Yeah.

Here you go.

You're curious about yourself and what this could be like. Just close your eyes. We got

I'll show you.

I do feel bad that Sarah's never experienced anything quite like that in 11 years. A yeah. Although I will say I feel like this story is very different from so many of the like Sex with Ghosts that we have where it's like a male ghost coming forward. I feel like oftent times the male ghosts are you discover that they're there when they're already on you.

Yeah.

And this woman was like

I present myself to you.

I present myself if you would like it.

Close your eyes. [laughter] [gasps]

I love it.

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Dang. I want to see what she looks like. Will you

draw a picture?

Paint a picture. paint a picture of her for us.

Yeah,

cuz a naked ghost sounds scary, you know?

But I imagine like she's sexy. She's glowing. There's like And I'm picturing like I mean women are just like mystical magical beings. Like I just imagine

that's why there are pure magic.

So many paintings nude.

Yeah. Pretty beautiful.

wedding present from heaven

Okay. I have a story called Wedding Present from Heaven. Hey girls, I have a happy story for you guys. It's not quite a normal ghost story. At the end of July, my fiance and I bought a china cabinet. I jokingly told him that when we finished setting it up in the dining room that we now needed some nice wine glasses. I then looked at my phone and saw that I received a random Facebook message from someone saying, "Hi, Vicki. Are you related to Marilyn?" Last name included, but redacted. If so, please contact me as soon as possible. Now, I'm looking at that thinking that this is my godmother's first name, but I actually didn't know my godmother's last name. So I called my mom asking if this person

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was my godmother Marilyn and my mom says yes wondering why I'm randomly asking. So I tell her. I call the random Facebook messenger saying yes I am related to Marilyn. And Barb, the name of the woman who messaged me says, "I have some etched wine glasses that should be yours and I'm coming down to where you live."

What? She promises to call me back later. I call my parents back and this time I'm talking to my dad. My dad is really confused as to what's going on, especially with these wine glasses because my godmother, she died 15 years ago and her husband died 14 years ago. Also, these wine glasses are etched by my great uncle, so they're probably easily 60 plus years old. Wait, like he etched them himself.

Yeah. So cool. Talk about talent. My dad and I are both near tears because after all this time, why now? My dad had mailed a letter to Barb asking for these 14 years ago, but never heard anything. A day later, Barb calls me again telling

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me that she had a feeling that she needed to give me those etched glasses. She said she had a few boxes of old photos. And fast forward to the weekend, I have the wine glasses. I'm unpacking them crying because I knew that these were the wedding present from Marilyn and from her husband, Larry, because I'm getting married in October. So, just a few months away. And here's the kicker. On my registry, one of the gifts I had listed was a set of etched wine glasses.

And like literally the day before getting this message, they just talked about filling them with beautiful wine glasses.

And these were not fancy or anything, just wanted something meaningful. I attached a picture of my present, which are the wine glasses, which I'll show you. They're so pretty. Thank you for all that you do. Stay spooky and see you on the other side. Like, how pretty. I can't believe it's like just the talent to etch these.

Oh, they're so beautiful.

They are.

Oh, there's like two sizes, too. Like

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the or three sizes. Wow, they're beautiful.

Great.

How amazing.

Barb was holding on to them. And then

for the right moment,

Marilyn was like, "Hey, you got to give these up. These are my wedding gift to my goddaughter."

Wow. I will say when because like for years like I lived in Los Angeles, right? But my mom had my great-grandmother's set of china and my grandmother's set of china,

and she was like, "You get to pick." So, I chose my great-grandmother's set of china,

but I could never have it cuz I lived so far away. And I was so excited to finally like move to the east coast and like the first thing I did was like pack up my car from my mom's house with that china.

And it's stunning. It's so beautiful. Like the glassware is the most like I'm just like obsessed with it.

But I never like get to use it. And it's also it has like the gold rim so you can't like microwave them. You can't dish

dishwasher. Yeah. Exactly.

But

that's my my parents when they moved recently. They were like, "Do you want the china?" I said, "No."

No. [laughter]

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And also nowadays China doesn't have the dishwasher the same value. But like I just love having something that my great-grandmother got for her wedding. Like I think that's just like so beautiful.

Yeah, it is.

And it was like the prize possession. Like you bring out the china for like the fancy dinner,

right? And that's like what you wanted on your wedding, like the fancy set of china for hosting, for being

Yeah.

the family.

China also makes me think of um the Titanic, which also makes me think of love and romance and crying.

So, happy Valentine's Day and happy Valentine's Day and happy day.

We love you.

We love you. And we do have

our bleeding dark hearts.

Our bleeding dark hearts pumping. Feel it in your hand. Do you feel it? Um, put it in some meat packing paper and shove it in your desk drawer like Mary Shelly or put it in a jar and put formaldahhide and save it forever. [laughter] Uh, we also have one extra story for you if you are a bleeding heart like us and

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just want more on Patreon. So, go over there to hear it. But until then, we love you. Shout out to Jamie and Emma. Thank you guys. And shout out to all of you. Happy Valentine's Day and we will see you on the other side.

Very spooky.