The Sandown Clown Incident | A Creepy Encounter With An… Alien?! (Ep 369)

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It starts with two children who were lured off the path by a mesmerizing warped siren sound, a blue gloved hand beckoning them into his metallic hut. It's got a little bit of aliens, a little bit of undersea. Do we really know what aliens look like? I am so confused because you mentioned clown. Yeah.

Very spooky. Hi.

embarrassing moments at SXSW

I'm embarrassed.

Why? Because I spent I mean, this is now like a month ago by the time this episode comes out, but I spent the whole weekend at South by Southwest Oh. telling [laughter] every single person who would listen to

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me about Gerald the dolphin and the abduction of this man in Florida. I felt like you. Like there's sometimes where you've come to me where you tin foil hat so hard and you Tik Tok so hard. And

You get lost in the sauce.

I got lost in the sauce. If you're not sure what I'm talking about

[sighs and snorts]

So

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back in middle of March there was this whole Tik Tok story where it went viral of this man from Florida who washed ashore and he claimed that he was

After 3 days.

Yeah. Of being missing. That he was like abducted by dolphins led by this one dolphin named Gerald. He was like the head honcho and taken beneath the shores to help build their like

It was a city. ground city.

It was a like a dolphin city. They had like plans and he had to construct their city with his thumbs. And they had like put like this like air bubble around him. Anyway, so yeah, he was building

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for like 3 days, washed ashore, and like these stories went off where they were like, "This man was tested by doctors, and he had evidence of like water in his lungs as if he had been underwater for a prolonged period of time, but no brain damage, like otherwise very mentally sound." The government was like sending helicopters. Like there was videos of all of it. Right. I'm still not clear what was real, what wasn't real. Or was it all a government cover-up? He also had a lot of educational credentials that would make you think that this is someone who is to be believed. And then in your defense, too, there were a lot of people who'd worked with dolphins in some sort of capacity, like researchers, trainers, whatever, and they were like backing up the story, being like, "Okay, well, that didn't happen to me, but like the things that I saw, the things that Dolphins are extremely intelligent. Yeah, they're like, "It could be totally believable that something like this would happen." But when you say it out

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loud to someone who's never heard the story and isn't into it, and you're just walking around not just to like anyone, studio execs, and they're like, "There's a dolphin."

and I talked

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Ali Ward and I talked about it I I delivered the information to the Dad Ward of Ologies who has spent lots of time talking to professional dolphin researchers. She was like, "I can't wait to talk to my dolphin expert about that."

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But I will say those were my favorite conversations of the weekend. Cuz you know, other people were talking about So, what podcast do you represent? What uh What ads do you like? And And I'm like, "Have you heard about Gerald?"

There's a guy named Gerald. He happens to be a dolphin. He's abducting people off the beaches of Florida, constructing underground cities. [laughter] Listen, I am embarrassed, but I'm also not

No, I don't think you should be embarrassed. I also think

I think that was an actually a great representation of who we are as a podcast. I think you did a wonderful job

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of showing exactly who we are. You speak with conviction, people believe you, they start to get lost and then you're like, "Wait a second." When you go to tell someone, "Oh, I just met this really interesting person I should be telling me about." And then you're like, "Oh, wait, is this a memorable Yeah, [laughter] yeah, no one's going to forget you as a human. Good job. Thank you.

Good job. Everyone's going to

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Oh, by the way, I don't think we introduced ourselves.

this is Two Girls One Ghost.

Two Girls One Ghost. That is Karen. Hello.

I'm Sabrina. And I will say Gerald in the story of Gerald is very appropriate for today's story.

Ooh. Because it's got a little bit of aliens, a little bit of undersea. Do aliens live underwater? Do we really know what aliens look like? I am so confused because in the tracker you mentioned clown. Yeah. Okay. I also have so many other stories from South by Southwest. But

Tell them. I was with a group of people and I was like, "Don't worry, if anyone were to attack us, I got the move." And

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I dropped down on all fours and I moved. SABRINA. [laughter] I LIKE LITERALLY CAN'T I can't picture it cuz I can't picture other people's reactions.

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Did they feel natural It Yeah. Was there like an awkward period between you like trying to get yourself off the ground after mooing and people not knowing No, it was with It was with friends. It was with like Andrea Gunning and her team from Gloss Media. Like I know them, so I'm friendly with them. Okay. So I had already exhibited I already exhibited I already I already exhibited weirdness beforehand, so I think

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They knew what THEY WERE IN FOR.

WAS THIS AT? Between events outdoors.

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I am dying. Oh man, this is what happens when I don't have you. I was supposed to go and then like a second before I had to drop out due to pregnancy things. I I'm questioning life right now.

Oh man, I'm not missing next year. Hell

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no.

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Moo again next year. I will. I'll moo again for you. I'll moo right now. I think that's how I did it. Okay, anyway, so this story Sorry, in It's just as No, what? I like forgot the context. I was like, wait, what context were you on the ground mooing? But it was It was an attacker scenario. Yeah, we were talking about potential threats. Okay. And then I said, I think I'm the biggest threat. Yeah. That's true. Not because of my muscles, but because of my oddness.

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That's why people shouldn't attack others. You never know what's going to come for you. You never know if this is the moment that people have been waiting for their entire lives. Corrine has. Corrine That is true. Well, this episode

Sandown & Isle of Wight

is just as weird as I am and it does feel ripped out of a Stephen King novel, specifically It, but this happened many years before It was ever written. Dang. It starts with two children

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who are lured off the path by a mesmerizing warped siren sound. They followed the sound deeper and deeper into a remote area and when they reached a small wooden bridge above a little babbling brook, the sound stopped. And suddenly, from beneath the bridge, something emerged. A blue

cuz I'm still picturing you on the ground [laughter] mooing. Do you notice I'm smiling as you're doing this? Okay, I'm focused. And suddenly, from beneath the bridge, something emerged. A blue gloved hand beckoning them into his metallic hut. It feels like a nightmare or the beginning of a story where children are eaten by a witch in the woods or pulled into a sewer like an It.

Mhm. But this is not fiction. This is reality, should you choose to believe it. And it is the story of Sam, the Sandown Clown / alien. / alien, interesting. Yeah, I

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mean, we'll get into specifics. I would say this is an alien story. Mhm. But he's called Sam the Sandown Clown because of his appearance, which I'll get into in a minute. But I very much believe this is an alien encounter. Okay. It's just one of the weirdest ones. Interesting. Our story starts in the south of England on an almost storybook island called the Isle of Wight. It is known for its quiet seaside towns, chalky white cliffs, and a very peaceful area where time slows. It's a 2-hour trip from London and a very popular summer spot. But in total, there are only about 142,000 year-round residents. So, here's like the island. I'll show you pictures. I mean, that's still a lot of residents. But it's like a bunch of towns on an island. So, it's not one town. Mhm. I didn't look at the size of it, the island, but it's it's big. Yeah. So, located Well, yeah. Okay. What? I feel like it's like being from like Rhode Island or something, you know? Yeah, I feel like that's a similar. Yeah.

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Located on the island's southeastern coast is a classic Victorian era beach town called Sandown. And Sandown spent many years as a strategic military defense location because it was in the ideal spot. It was perfect to monitor the seas for potential enemies. It was the front line during coastal conflict with mainland Europe. And during both World Wars, the island was used for training exercises, radar installations, coastal surveillance, and secret operations Dang.

being conducted in this area. It's always on an island. And always on the water, yeah. Yeah, Because aliens live at the bottom of our ocean. Yep. So does Gerald. And Gerald's an alien.

Gerald is an alien. Okay, so over the time the need for such operations lessened and the need for sun by the English folk folk grew cuz those Londonites I'm wearing my London sweatshirt.

Nice. They are deprived of the sun.

They are whites. So then Sandown

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[laughter]

You said they are whites. London's a very diverse place.

I know. But they're pale. The ones that are white are are drastically white.

Vampiric. But this town is beautiful, it's sunny and it has sandy shores, coastal paths, ice cream shops, the perfect place for families, tourists and and anyone who's really looking for a peaceful getaway. Or to see dinosaur fossils or to visit the poo museum. Like Winnie the Pooh or like I I poo poo.

Like feces. [laughter] Museum. There's a museum of poop. Why?

I don't know. What do we need to know about the poop?

Um it's the national poo museum. Explores the science of excrement. Hm. Gut biomes and has fossilized droppings. So it's not just human, it's just like The world of poop.

It's just poop. Oh, interesting.

World of poop. Yeah. So yeah, it has the dinosaurs and it has poop. And it

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has their poop. But Sandown is often nicknamed Dinosaur Island because the sheer number of fossils that have been discovered here. There have been over 20 different species tons of bones, footprints, skeletons that have been uncovered by paleontologists along the cliffs and beaches of Sandown for centuries. That's [laughter] kind of wild. Wait, where is this again?

Uh southeastern island uh in England. Oh. It's just so random. Like a just like a small little island has such a big population of so many different types of dinosaurs. It's not just like, oh no, it like slowly eroded and shipped off and all the giant snakes and birds lived there. Like it's

No, it has so it's like such a high number. Yeah, which I'm like keep all of this in mind when we're talking about this story because it's like what is it about this place that has so much history, was such a attractive place to dinosaurs? Mhm. Perhaps it's another

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reason it's an attractive place to

Ancient aliens. Yeah. One dinosaur fact I learned the other day that blew my mind was that Stegosaurus and T-Rex did not live in the same time period at all. And in fact, we live closer to T-Rex than Stegosaurus and T-Rex lived. I'm going to butcher this but I think Stegosaurus was like Mesozoic period and T-Rex is Jurassic and those are like millions and millions of years apart. So we are closer to living in the world of T-Rex than T-Rex was to live with alongside uh Stegosaurus. I'm confused about the history of Earth.

[sighs]

So when do when did mermaids when do they come in? [laughter] They're still here. They [gasps] are. Yeah. And Daryl knows them.

of Brazil.

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Okay, so point being Sandown has this like very rich history. Dinosaurs, military bases, forts, secret operations, {question mark} {question mark}. And while it's a popular tourist destination, it does also have a lot of

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coastal paths that lead into more desolate, marshy, wooded areas. There abandoned forts, overgrown paths, long stretches of countryside where you can walk for a long time without ever seeing another living being. And it's on one of these lesser traveled paths that two kids encountered what is now called the Sandown Clown. A ghost, an alien, an interdimensional being, or something entirely unknown. Hmm. So, it's around This does immediately make me think of It and how like It came crashing down and like landed on Earth and that there were like certain things scattered like if you're going based on like the the most recent one. Because now I'm thinking, okay, dinosaurs went extinct from a meteor or whatever, but like what if it was this clown shooting down from outer space, killing the aliens of this island. One thing Killing the aliens, killing the dinosaurs. Sorry. [laughter]

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One thing I will say is this is an alien I would like to encounter. It's not It's not scary like Pennywise. All righty. Unless maybe Actually, it's not scary like Pennywise and I'll stand by that.

the first encounter

Okay. Around 4:00 p.m. on Tuesday, May 8th of 1973, a 7-year-old girl named Faye was with a boy around her same age. And I'm just going to note, so I'll get more into this like when we talk about how we have the story at the end, but her name's not actually Faye. That's the name that was given to her to keep her actual identity anonymous because she was a young kid Okay.

when this happened. Yeah. And then none of the reports identify the boy either, so I'm going to call him Danny. So, Faye and Danny, they're around 7 years old, Tuesday, May 8th, 1973, they are playing outside, wandering around Lake Common. I've included some Google Map images so you can see this area. It's like in the border between neighborhoods, so there's some marshy land and golf course. Oh, okay. Yeah.

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Yeah. They're kind of on the outskirts of town.

like populated than I had presumed. I mean, this is a today image. In 1973, it's probably a little bit more scarce, but the golf course did exist back then.

Right. Like they're not like miles and miles and miles away from a human being.

No. No, they're not. But, they're on like

cuz they're 7 years old and near a body of water. Yes, exactly.

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Um okay, so Fay and Danny are walking around. They're tossing sticks when all of a sudden they heard a wailing noise. And when they described it, it was almost like

Is it like this?

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Exactly like that. It was me dropping down on all fours.

[snorts]

It was almost like a siren, almost like an ambulance, but it was not at all like an ambulance. Whatever it was, it didn't entrance them. It made them curious. So, they followed the sound across the golf links, through a hedge, to grandmother's house they go,

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to a swampy meadow. And once they reached this meadow, the sound stopped completely. They're confused. They decide, "Should we go a little bit further? Look for it. What was that?" They make their way across a wooden footbridge that is over a narrow brook. And as they're crossing the bridge, a gloved blue-gloved hand reaches out from underneath the bridge towards them, which is terrifying and feels very Pennywise, right?

Yeah. And then a strange figure, to which the hand belonged, emerged. It, or he, as Fay and Danny explained, was nearly 7 ft tall. His head appeared to come right out of his shoulders, so he had no neck. He wore a yellow pointed hat, a green tunic with a red collar, and a round black knob was affixed to the top of his hat, and wooden antennae, cuz there's two, protruded from either side. So, like literally like tin foil hat situation

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with antennae. His face had triangular markings for eyes. There was a brown square of a nose, yellow lips, his cheeks were paper white with brown markings, and red hair poked out onto his forehead.

Oh, yeah. And his limbs

His limbs were like wooden slats. He wore blue gloves on his hands, and each hand only had three fingers. And same, his feet only had three toes, but they were barefooted and pale. This kind of sounds like Raggedy Andy. Oh, okay. But then when you put it all together Yeah. It's kind of like a very vintage Halloween clown.

Mhm. Yeah, doesn't it kind of remind you of um Is it like Rolie Polie Olie characters? They're kind of like robotic.

Yes. Rolie Polie Olie, he's smart and short and round. And in the land of na na na, he's the coolest kid around. Love that you remember that.

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[laughter]

Love that for you. And us. We got to enjoy it.

Yeah. Well, I didn't remember all the words. I probably got a couple wrong. But you know, no, no, you're right. Like that's what he Yeah, that's what it looks like. Or it looks like when you go to like, I don't know, TJ Maxx or whatever, and they have like the vintage style like plates for Halloween. Like it looks like a character like that. Like someone's going to be dressed up for Halloween. Like that. And so it does look clown-like, but it also has it's like robotic, but then the outfit does have alien-like future space Yeah.

Xenon look to it. Cetus Lepidus. So Fay and Danny are obviously very taken aback by this

Mhm. strange creature emerging from beneath a wooden bridge. And they watch it kind of come out from under the bridge and fumble a book that it was carrying. The book falls into the brook, it rhymes, and the figure splashes about trying to retrieve his book. Like he really wants his book.

I'm worried for him and his book.

I know. And once it retrieves its book, the figure races towards what Fay and

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Danny described as a metal hut with no windows. And as it runs towards this hut, it moved in a very strange manner, hop hopping, like doing high knees. Okay. So about this feels human. It does not feel natural. It's like, does it feel natural to this thing or is or is it trying to like masquerade as a human and it's like, "This is how they run." Right, unclear. But, whatever it is, it doesn't seem to interact with the children right away. So, it kind of like runs back to its hut. Like, almost like they startled it as much as it startled them.

Aw. Yeah. Aw, I was trying to relax by the water, read his book. And he fumbled and he frazzled and ran back to his hut. So, Danny and Faye are like, "Uh, okay, well, maybe we should leave." They're seven. So, they turn around, they start to go away. But, all of a sudden, like this figure rematerializes in a different location. And this time, it

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has a microphone. This feels like a story a seven-year-old might tell.

[laughter]

Right. But, just wait. Okay, [snorts] and that siren sound returned. Oh, like out of its mouth or just No,

Just as it's when it when it reappeared, like the sound came back.

own jingle for its entry? We'll talk about this more, but I think it's almost like talking about like Gateway Tapes and all of these things, kind of how like sound can alter your reality. So, people assume or think that maybe the sound is the reason they were able to see him. Interesting. Yeah. Okay, so that siren sound returned. It was so loud.

[snorts]

And then, the figure spoke. And he asked, "Hello, are you still there?" And despite the figure's appearance and this alarmingly loud siren, Faye and Danny feel like it's friendly. Like, that's the energy they're getting from it.

Mhm. So, they approach it. And when they're now face-to-face with this creature, the siren stops. The being then opened his

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book, the one that he had dropped into the brook, and appeared to write down a message.

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I am all colors, Sam

And this is what's interesting, and we'll talk about this more in the theory section, too, but so he wrote a message, but it was like he had to point to the words. They were all out of order, but in order for him to relay the message to Fay and Danny, he so he opened the book and they would point to the one word, which was maybe in the middle of the mass of words, and it said, "Hello." He pointed to another word, "and I am all colors Sam." So, while it didn't read like that, based on the way he pointed at it, the message was, "Hello, and I am all colors Sam." You know what this is making me think? I know that this is an alien story, but this is almost making me think that this is someone from the future or even from the

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past who like tried to figure out a time machine and built almost like a robot to send and test and that they're controlling the robot which is this figure from like a remote. Like it's almost like trying to like like use your drone or whatever and then it gets like stuck in the trees and you're trying to do all the stuff and like there's a million mistakes because it's like not perfect. This is what it feels like to me where it's like it's someone's like oh [ __ ] whatever just happened worked. I'm actually somewhere else and I need my robot to like point and communicate and it's like oh [ __ ] point at the wrong thing. Yeah, I think it's also maybe the language that or the way that it communicates in its world isn't the same as the way it communi- as we communicate but it studied the way we communicate and it's trying to

colors Sam. And also just like the microphone thing makes me laugh. It makes me just think of uh Monsters Inc. where they come at the end when they just start to do comedy and collect laughs [clears throat] instead of screams and

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Mike Wazowski like enters with a microphone with a long cord [laughter] and he does his set. But okay, so he this entity has now introduced himself as all colors Sam. His name was Sam. And Sam could speak using his microphone or without or writing his messages he could speak but no matter what like they could hear him but no matter what his lips never moved. Which is just like unsettling.

Yeah, that is strange.

Which does make you wonder is he actually speaking out loud or is he telepathically communicating with them? Right.

just the only way we know how to interpret it or as a 7-year-old you're like oh he's speaking out loud. Or is he a robot and there's a speaker built into him and someone else in a secondary location is speaking through it. Maybe. Who knows? We don't we don't know. Okay, so now Like the Transformers at Universal. So now the three of them stand there outside talking for some time. They asked questions about one another and Fay and

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Danny couldn't help but notice that Sam's clothes were ripped, so they asked why. Sam told them that he only had one set of clothes to wear. Fay and Danny were very confused by Sam, rightfully so, and Fay asked if Sam was a man. Sam said, "No." So, Fay, being 7 years old and not really sure what other terms to use, asked, "Are you a ghost?" And Sam responded, "Well, not really, but I am in an odd sort of way." Interesting. Interesting answer. I'm more confused now. Well, and then Fay asked, "What are you then?" And Sam vaguely said, "You know." And then just like kept going. And then you know what? Yeah, very vague. But then he

Perhaps he doesn't have a word for it in our own language. Right. Or but also it does feel like in a way he is a ghost because people don't see him on a regular basis and maybe the only way Fay and Danny were able to see him was

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because he put out this sound that allowed them to enter his dimensional space in reality. Yeah. But so, he continues to say that there were others like him. But that he was alone and that he was scared of humans. He was frightened that humans would hurt him, which is why he never really shows himself to them. He confessed that if a human were to attack, he would not fight back. So, basically, that makes me think that there are there's history of his people, his kind, being killed by humans. Mhm. But maybe they are a peaceful species and so they do not fight back. It's just like blowing my mind that based on what he said to look like that that this is like a naturally occurring being or is it an alien? But like even as an alien, I'm like, isn't it hard to get around in your body? I would say

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it's hard to get around in our human bodies. We also look so weird, but we don't think we look weird because we all look like this and we think we're the most intelligent beings. Oh, it's so gross.

But in reality, humans are like naked. We're gross.

talk. Uh Yeah. Gross. Yeah. Okay, so at some point in the conversation, Sam invites Fay and Danny into his hut. And they followed him inside entering through a flap. And the the images we have are all like um reimagined drawings after the fact obviously, but so it's like this metal hut built almost into the side of a hill. It had no windows. And when Sam showed them inside, Sam like removed his hat. Like now we're inside, take the hat off, which is an interesting little Some manners.

Etiquette, yeah. He showed Danny and Fay around. The hut had two floors. The lower level was wallpapered in blue-green with a pattern of dials.

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And there was simple wooden furniture, but not much else. The upper level was smaller and the floor was metallic. Fay and Danny continued to speak with Sam and Sam told them that he had just made his hut and that he fed on berries in the late afternoon. But if he ever ran out of berries, there was a camp on the mainland that he could go to, which makes me think that there are other versions of him or people like him on the mainland.

Huh, yeah. He also told them he drank the water from the river, but it was only drinkable after he cleansed it. Which I'm like, how do you cleanse that? Yeah, like what sort of cleansing? I don't know. Sam showed the children how he ate his berries, but this was like a magic trick. He basically placed a berry in one of his ears, he thrust his head forward and the berry disappeared, then it reappeared in front of their eyes, and then it moved by itself into Sam's mouth. What like again, what a difficult way to consume food? Food.

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Why can't it just be straightforward? Why do you have to put it through your ear first?

I think he was like trying to show them like how playful he can be and like he has magic. He can make things levitate and he can think make things move. And then popped it in his mouth without using his hands.

Yeah. Maybe that's why it's so much easier for him. He might have wooden arms, but he doesn't have to touch anything.

do anything, yeah.

Yeah. Maybe like his body isn't even his body at all. Like he his being is like this consciousness Right. that can be put into any any form. Is this how he appeared to show himself to children? Like almost clown-like because he's like Like Pinocchio, like Yeah. Like doll, clown toy. Like that might not actually be what he looks like Mhm. for real. But so anyway, Fay and Danny spent like 30 minutes with Sam. I'm not clear how the conversation ended or like what when it they decided it was time to leave, but at the end, Sam showed them out of his hut and he waved goodbye.

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Like a very like nice to know you. Have a good one. Fay and Danny just leave the hut and they are besides themselves. They are 7 years old, full of excitement. They fully believe they just spent time with a ghost. And so they start running home and the first person they see, I think they crossed paths with someone on the golf course, they excitedly jump up and down. They're like,

[gasps]

"We just saw a ghost. We just saw a ghost." And this man that they see is kind of laughing it off, but then they double down and then the man kind of gets annoyed with him and is like, "Stop lying. Like go home, you foolish kids. You're ruining my tea time.

Right. And so then Fay and Danny get embarrassed and then start to question themselves and feel dismissed. So, they

after the encounter

return home and they don't tell anyone.

[gasps]

That's such a bummer. But, thank

like I feel like that should alert someone. Like, no matter who it is, if someone's doubling down, children outside running out of the woods saying, "We just saw a ghost." Would like, even

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if you don't believe that they saw a ghost, wouldn't you wonder if they saw a human being in the woods?

It's 1973. Yeah. Kids are running around. Kids should be seen

of seen and not heard of uh those commercials where it was like, "Have you seen your kids today? Do you know where your kids are? Have you hugged your child?" Here's an example of how to hug your children. Right. So, I understand why like no one believed them and also why they were like, "Get off my golf course." So, anyway, Fay and Danny return home. They're not siblings, so they go to their respective homes. They keep to themselves. They don't tell anyone. But, naturally, they can't stop thinking about it. Every day for weeks, Fay is consumed by memories of her interaction with Sam. So, finally, 3 weeks after meeting Sam, Fay told her father, who we'll call Mr. Y cuz that's the alias he's given for privacy reasons, Fay tells her father, Mr. Y, what she saw. And Mr. Y remembers the day

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clearly. It was June 2nd, 1973, that Fay came to him with this wild story of a clown-like creature by the brook. And Mr. Y is asking a lot of questions. He's, you know, not trying to be completely dismissive of his daughter, but also he's skeptical. Yeah.

He doesn't quite believe it. He's asking a lot of questions. He asks if she made it up. And Fay gets really upset by it. And Mr. Y is like, "I probably would not have believed my daughter had I not had my own very strange encounter months before his daughter encountered Sam that he had never told anyone. Oh, months before? For a moment I was like, did he find him when he was a kid and this is like a a familial thing?

Yes. No.

Mr. Y's UFO encoutner

So, months before. So, this encounter happened in May of 1973. October 20th, 1972, around 7:00 p.m., Mr. Y was driving from

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Shanklin to Ryde on Seaview Road to see a friend. It's late at night. He's passing through Brading. He was about to turn right to St. Helens when he became aware of something in the sky. So, he squints his eyes to get a better look and he made out a large multi-lit aircraft. And this thing is enormous. Moving in a strange manner, kind of flying low over the swampy area. Mhm. He was so taken aback by it that he stops his car to get out to try to like get a better look at it and understand what he's seeing. Cuz this is also not like the main land. Like this is This is the island. This is an island. There's one place to land. Yeah. He watched this aircraft. It hovered over the River Yar and he watched these like wide ring of he counted it was like sev- at least seven lights. Each of them super large, sphere-like and bright cherry red. They were interspersed with Between the lights was like a turquoise and white light. And despite its size, no sound

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could be heard. UFO. So, he watches it for some time and it kind of just stays there and he's like, well, I'm supposed to get to my friends. I'm going to get back in my car. He keeps driving. Just ignore this miraculous sighting of

I mean, he stopped for a while, but like what's he going to do? It's not like they have cell phones to be like, oh my god, Yeah. come meet me out here. So, he's alone. He keeps driving and his eyes remain on this aircraft cuz he can still see it and it starts to move almost flying parallel with him. Mhm. And then it seemed to me under lights and shape were changing. The size of it was changing. So again, now Mr. Y is like, I need to stop. Like this thing is doing different things now and it's flying parallel with me. He stops again, gets out of his car, watches it again. He takes out his flashlight cuz he has a flashlight in his car cuz it's 1973, you know, prepared. And he shines the light towards this aircraft. And in like reflection of it, he's like, I feel like that's maybe where I went wrong because

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it's almost like he communicated with it and let the aircraft know he was there. And he could see it. Eventually he got back in his car and kept driving. But this craft kept moving with him. To the point that when he arrived to his friend's house, his friend came outside and they both watched the aircraft and it almost seemed to be playing a game of hide and seek. They would be looking at it and they would be talking about it and it would duck down below the trees to hide and then like pop back out. And then when they would talk about it again, see it again, it would pop back down. It was like playing hide and seek.

It's also interesting to think that like the UFO, the actual physical UFO, can be seen without noise. But potentially the species or whatever like is intelligent inside needs to play a jingle to be seen. Or is there a noise, a frequency that we can't audibly hear but it is playing? And then I guess it's like the question is why why play it? Why do we need to see? What's the point of seeing?

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Or maybe it doesn't do it purposefully for this like maybe aircrafts don't do it purposefully not everyone can pick up on it but some people do. Like you know that those hearing tests where it's like, can you hear this? Those of us who haven't suffered hearing loss.

Yeah. Which is not me. I'm deaf in one ear.

I'm I'm so deaf. It's so bad. A lot of nodding and yes. Uh-huh.

I have no idea what you're saying but yes. Okay, so Mr. Y goes into his friend's and after like they you know, they had their night and then he got back into his car at the end of the night and looked to the night sky. The aircraft is nowhere to be seen. So he thought this is the end of it. He's like, what a strange experience that I had, but he thought that would be the end of it. But for weeks after that night in October, Mr. Y would see the same aircraft or strange single red balls of light in the sky following him. And he just knew in his gut like it was watching him. Again, going back to like the shining the flashlight on them. Like it almost felt like now they were

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keeping tabs on him. This went on for months and Mr. Y never felt threatened by it, but he definitely had this sense of being watched which was like not he wasn't a fan of it. He's like, well, I don't know what this is. What does it want? But again, he wasn't scared of it until one night that he recalls being terrifying. It was March 1st of 1973. And keep in mind, his daughter sees Sam the Sandown Clown 2 months later. So 2 months prior to his daughter's experience, March 1st, 1973, Mr. Y drove out to the cliffside at Compton Bay. It's around 9:00 or 10:00 p.m. I'm not sure what brought him out here, but he's looking out at the water and just like enjoying this view, relaxing, who knows. When all of a sudden he has this like urge, something is telling him to turn his view and look at a specific spot in the water. The second he moves his eyes to the spot that he felt called to look at, something starts happening in the

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water. Like it's a tides are being created in this one spot. It reminds me of in the movie Aquamarine when she gets pushed into the water and her dad is like trying to pull her back and like the tides all change and it's almost like a whirlpool in the ocean and they're trying to pull Aquamarine home. This is happening and it feels like something is emerging from beneath the water and he has fear but he's frozen in this fear. Something is moving beneath the surface. And slowly something emerged. Two points of light. They were yellow and appeared like eyes. Mr. Y was filled with dread as these yellow eyes peered up at him like the eyes of a horrible sea monster. They were some 40 ft away from where he was on the cliffside and they stared at him before disappearing back beneath the surface of the ocean waters. This is a

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drawing. It's so bizarre but I guess like again to my point of it like there's some sort of other consciousness and it can either like you said take the form of or I was like it can create something and then like jump inside of it.

Mhm. It's testing out who to be here. It's confusing. Mr. Y was in shock and disbelief. The waters calmed again and he was like did any of that actually just happen? Like there's there's no evidence of something beneath the water anymore. Everything's calm again. Somehow he's able to gather himself and he drives back home and he never told a single soul. The only person who had any knowledge of like some UFO sighting was his friend whose house he had gone over to that one night who also saw it.

But that's it. So yeah, he told no one. Not a single soul. Which I understand because you're like what the hell did I just see? No one's going to believe me. I feel so

Like you don't want to be like the kooky person.

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Right. But imagine a couple months later how strange it must feel for his daughter, his 7-year-old daughter to approach him with a equally bizarre, very different but encounter.

And otherworldly. like very. And despite how odd it is and like like he recalls like had he not had his own experience, he very much would have believed that this was not a real thing. He wouldn't have believed her. [clears throat] But he's like, "What are the chances that we both have such strange odd encounters Mhm. and they're not connected?" Yeah. So he's like, "I don't know why, I don't know what, but this feels too weird to not like to be a coincidence."

Mhm. So Mr. Y asks his daughter a lot of questions. He's trying to figure it out. He even goes back to the location where Fay said she encountered this entity. But of course there was nothing there. Nothing that he could see at least, which does make me think that it is

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something that we can't physically see in this realm. Kind of like the Nanaue people. Yeah. Where they have this whole civilization, but it's only if they allow you to see it can you see them.

For some [clears throat] reason it feels so much more believable to me to like have the Fay world open up and invite people in than this kind of like clunky wooden clown-like creature.

Right. Like it just I not [laughter] to body shame this

like being, but like I just don't understand how it works. No, it is very confusing. But I think also that's the point is that we don't know what we don't know.

Yeah. And It's very like Wizard of Oz in a way where it's like it almost feels like he was turned into the Tin Man and now he's scared of everything and Yeah. So then Mr. Y also goes to speak with the boy who had been with Fay during the experience and the child is like at first hesitant to talk, probably cuz he had stayed silent for 3 months, hadn't told anyone. But when he did finally open up and

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share his version of the events, pretty much every detail was the same, including the three fingers, three toes, which is so specific. Very. So Mr. Y is trying to spend a like trying try and to figure out what was happening,

but also slightly concerned that these aliens and beings or whatever they were are now watching his family. Like he saw those eyes and then a couple months later his daughter encounters this thing in the woods. Like Right. You're concerned as a parent. To the daughter's perspective this thing seemed like it was like, "Oh gosh, I was scared. I wasn't expecting to see anyone. I'm scared of humans." But like is that a ruse to try to Right. get closer to the children? Yeah. So he's vacillating between is this a hallucination that like I just by having it my own I like passed it to my child in some way? Or And who knows? Like maybe all their neighbors were experiencing the same thing, but people feel so Yeah. I don't think they were. Cuz we'll learn in a

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second, but

Okay. But he's like did we hallucinate or did we interact with some like alien species?

Is there a carbon monoxide leak in our house? Oh yeah, exactly. Lead poisoning. And apparently Faye had in her story when she told her dad she had mentioned that like they passed a couple of workmen in the like wooded area. And like the way that she explained it was like they could see her and this boy talking to Sam the Sandown Clown, but they almost didn't see it. Hm. So that was what made Mr. Y under like think maybe this is a different reality that they entered. Yeah. Anyway, it's confusing. So then over time he continues to have more questions than answers and he begins to share this odd story with a couple people here and there. Because that's what it is. Just a weird thing that happened to him and his daughter. But then he spoke with someone named Leonard Cramp. And I looked it up and

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Leonard Cramp is a pioneer UFO researcher who lives on the Isle of Wight. So perfect person for Mr. White have talked to.

Yeah. Leonard has written many books on UFOs and gravity and the cosmic matrix and he's posed a lot of theories and attempted to examine those. One of his studies has been about sound and how sound can alter your reality. I feel like you're choosing a lot of things recently, a lot of topics that have to do with sound. Cuz I think that's the key. It literally is. Like I'm looking into hypnobirthing and stuff because I'm like I got to make it a little bit further without getting the epidural this time cuz I'm convinced that's what slowed down and messing things up last time, which is another conspiracy in and of itself.

[laughter]

But like that's a lot of the thing is like the different like hertz and listening to different sounds or whatever and like how it [clears throat] the meditation half of the meditation is Yeah. like sound and vibration. Yeah. Crazy. Okay, but so through your conversations, Leonard convinces Mr. White to report

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his in phase experiences to the British UFO Research Association, which is B U F O R A, BUFORA. I'm going to call it that for shorts. For shorts. For shorts. BUFORA was called

the word short.

[laughter]

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British UFO Research Association

BUFORA was founded in 1964, and its purpose was to investigate UFO phenomena in the British Isles. Today, they say they investigate around 400 cases yearly, and 95% of those end up being debunked, meaning like they can explain it with rational reason. But that also means that 5% are considered confirmed sightings.

Yeah. Which is so crazy cuz like the British Isles, the UK, it's so small.

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Mhm. It is such a small area. But there are a lot of aliens. There are so many aliens, so many ghosts, so many it's just like weird black-eyed kids, like so many weird things. Yeah. Like monsters? Everything. Uh what ocean monsters, something? Or aliens underwater? I don't know. What's going on? So much. Did the Titanic actually strike an iceberg? Or was it ripped underground by a giant sea monster? Yeah, probably that.

heard that conspiracy but I have heard it. I've never heard that one either. Yeah. But who knows? Technically, icebergs can be like they feel like giant sea monsters.

Yes, they do. Yeah. And who's to say a giant sea monster didn't throw the iceberg at the ship?

[laughter]

You heard it here first, folks. The truth about the Titanic. I'm going to spit everywhere.

[laughter]

Okay, so regardless, Leonard tells Mr. Whys that he should share his story with BUFORA. And finally, in 1978, 5 years after his and Fay's encounters with whatever they

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encountered, Mr. Y tells BIFORA. And this is why we have the story today. So, BIFORA published the story in their January/February journal of 1978. And like you can read the original journal, which I did for this episode, but this was the cover of the journal. It was volume 6, number 5. And the front cover says ghost or spaceman. Cuz it While it does look really weird, it does have like astronauty vibes to it. Almost yeah, space suit. Yeah. Ask. Right. So, it's the cover of or the drawing of Sam the Sandown Clown, as he's now lovingly called, is the cover of the of the journal. Mhm. So, Mr. Y agreed to share his story as long as he and his daughter remained anonymous, which is why they're called Mr. Y and Fay in the story. And naturally when people read this story, the consensus was, "Wow, that's strange." And I'm sure you're thinking that too while I'm telling you this story. It's hard to ignore the story of Sam,

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but it also doesn't fit most other descriptions of UFO alien encounters.

Right. So, it didn't And honestly, without having the photo, like if they had eliminated the illustration, I almost feel like it would have had a little bit more credence. Yeah.

But like it just feels so like children's book. Yeah. It feels unbelievable.

Yeah. But so it didn't prompt this massive investigation or follow-up. It just existed in the world and circulated in UFO circles until recently. Because if you're into aliens and whatnot, there's recently been a lot of talk about aliens living underwater and these alien societies being in the ocean and in bodies of water, and Mr. Y's encounter with this like object coming up from the ocean after experiencing and seeing an aircraft in the sky has caused a resurgence of this story. Oh, interesting. People are like, "Oh, maybe like this shows and proves that people have been thinking that or having experiences similar to that theory for

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many many years."

Right. Cuz right now we're getting a lot of videos from different like military entities across the world who have been like tracking objects in the water. But Mr. Y back in 1973 just didn't know how to put words to it. Mhm. As far as

other sightings

we know, no one else has come forward with their own encounter with Sam the Sandown Clown. So like you would think had they encountered something like this or even anything remotely like this, people would have come forward with the story. But as far as we know, there aren't any other encounters. There is one encounter from Nova Scotia that mentions all colors Sam, but I couldn't find the actual encounter. Like it was like reported that there was another encounter with that mention, but I couldn't find the actual encounter.

I'm so curious what he means by all colors. I almost feel like he is everything.

Yeah. Or was he trying to say like, "I'm just like you no matter what you look like." Maybe. Yeah, I don't know.

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I I don't know. But yeah, no, I my first inclination was just like I'm everything. Right. All colors, everything you can perceive and see. Yeah. Is I am that. Is this God?

[laughter]

God, is that you?

our creator? He has this like little microphone.

Let's create a new religion all around Sam the Sandown Clown. Yeah, just like the what was that spaghetti religion? What's that? Do you remember that? Someone created a religion worshipping the spaghetti monster. I'm down for spaghetti monster. [laughter] I think he like lived in the sky and was made of spaghetti. Like cloudy with a chance of meatballs? Yeah.

He's the reason.

They're all like in the boat. There's also a shaman named Credo Mutwa who described an alien entity with very similar features to Sam the Sandown Clown. But otherwise, there haven't been any encounters like the one that Fay had. So, again, this story has for the most part remained pretty underground. But then, in November 2025, so very, very recently,

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a writer and researcher named Paul A. T. Wilson has spoken on multiple podcasts and revealed that he tracked Fay down and discovered that Fay has had multiple other encounters with Sam throughout her life. Interesting. Paul lives on the Isle of Wight and has a background in studying pre-medieval history on the island. And he grew up hearing the story of Fay and Sam the Sandown Clown. So, he has spent many years trying to like track her down. The encounters are a little vague, like very vague, Mhm. that it's it almost leaves you wondering like did he really track down Fay or is he kind of just like adding to a story because he can, because no one actually knows the real identity of Fay? It's unclear. Oh. But he has reported that Fay, according to Fay, she has had at least four additional encounters with Sam. So, the first encounter occurred in May of 1973. And according to Paul, Fay also saw Sam in 1982, in 1983, 1984, and 1989.

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And these weren't these like grand encounters. It was more of like Fay and Sam had become friends after that first day, and so Sam occasionally would like check in. And she'd be like, "Hey, old friend." Little Indrid Cold style. Thank you for bringing that up because a lot of people do relate this encounter to Indrid Cold because Indrid Cold and Project Lonaulos is also

episode about, if you don't know. Was that a two-parter or just a one-parter? I can't remember.

Oh, I can't remember either. I think it was a two-parter.

Like it took over my life, so it was forever. But they're two alien type encounters that don't fit the stereotypical alien encounters. Cuz like Indrid Cold would like kick it with the guy. Like they would like be like in the yard, rocking chair, and they're like

Pontificate about the world. Porch.

And then sometimes he'd take him to his planet.

Right. So, I'm not sure how reliable

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this Paul is and these other encounters with Fay and Sam. But, it does seem like Sam was friendly and was terrified of humans, but there was something about Fay and Danny that made Sam reveal himself. Maybe he was lonely. Or maybe he knew that children were innocent and would not hurt him and he could seek companionship with them. I don't know. But, what the heck

theories

is Sam? That's the question. That's the question most people have been left with. There are a couple theories. The first one is that this was all a result of Fay's imagination and that she like created a shared hallucination with her friend.

Mhm. Other people are like, they created the story after the fact and it was inspired by Stephen King's It, but it didn't come out until like many, many years later. Let's see, when did it come out? And like aside from some clown-like features, it doesn't have any similarities to It.

Right. 1986 was when it was written, but the journal was published in 1978, so

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years before. And the experience was 1973. Some people are like, it was just a human dressed up in a costume, which is a horrifying theory. Um

Yeah. And then also, if that were true, they would have found evidence of this hut or something because that would mean it was a something in our own reality.

Right. And then of course, alien. And this is where a lot of people bring up and compare him to Indrid Cold, the Grinning Man, especially the way that he the way that Mr. Wiseau saw the UFO and then the Sam encounter happened. Like it does feel like they're They're

Mhm. Maybe of the same species, maybe of the same

communicating.

Telepathically communicating. Being very friendly. The way that he said he was a ghost in a way, but wasn't a ghost.

Like it was his way of describing that he was an alien.

Mhm. But that also has made people wonder if he's more of like cryptid, fae, especially because he talked about food. And like invited them into the hut,

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which feels very fae-like. He didn't offer them food, but he showed them his food, which is a very like fae thing. And then he spoke in riddles almost.

True. Which feels fae-like. And he lured children in, things like that. Yeah. Exists just outside of our reality. Either way

by a body of water. And I I will get to that in a second cuz I found this I'm going to straight-up rip off someone from Reddit because they created this like basically analysis of the encounter and like how everything about it symbolizes aliens. Mhm. But I think ultimately, whatever Sam is, he's some type of interdimensional being. Mhm. Who exists in our world, but not always, not visible to us. Maybe uses sound to help allow other people to see him and alter the reality. And then also, is this at all connected to the history of the land and the military and these secret operations that ran off of this island? Is it

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connected to the dinosaurs, the rich soil? I don't know. Maybe it's all connected. Okay, but now So the user was it's like they posted it like eight years ago and now their username is deleted, so I can't cite my source. But they broke down the first encounter and its symbolism and connection to alien encounters. They were found at a bridge, which is a symbol of transition between two locals or states of consciousness, and it's water. Mhm.

The being's hand emerged from the water, which is a classic symbol of the collective unconscious, the spiritual or meta subjective world. It's also a literal representation of emerging from a wave-like intangible medium, aka from a different plane or frequency, which correlates with what it says later about being like a ghost in this world, but not a ghost. It's the absurdity of its physical form, which seems composed from symbols or ideas rather than actual matter. So, it's like

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trying to exist based on our human brains. Yeah. And it has three fingers, which is a common symbol for aliens, and it produces a book, which is a symbol for knowledge of the world, and it drops the book, and this user was like, I doubt it really dropped it. I think it was part of the miming and the communication. It's hard cuz it's like that's an incredible amount of performance and meaning to put behind an interaction with a 7-year-old human child. And then is this just a human example of how humans try to assign meaning to everything? Totally. But, I do believe that this alien creature is incredibly intelligent Mhm. and knows what it's doing. But, I also think it was lonely. But, like again, it all goes back to like what's the point? And I'm also now trying to assign human feelings to something that's clearly not human. Right. But, it didn't say it was lonely? No, it didn't say that. It just said it was

that. Oh, oh. Yeah. It said that it was alone. It was alone. And there were others like it, but he was alone here,

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which we don't know why. But, didn't he say he was scared of humans?

Scared of humans. So, scared. Yeah, human emotion.

Which means that it chooses not to show itself to humans because the fear of humans hurting it was so great, meaning that there's a history of humans hurting their beings. So, what do you think it is? I literally don't know. Like this Like did the dinosaurs interact with this thing? Like how old is it?

know. I I have not an inkling of idea of [laughter] like what this could possibly be. Like this is

It's wild. It doesn't remind you of like Narnia a little bit? Yeah, totally. Yeah. It all goes back to I feel like there's so many alien abduction stories where like people actually get taken and they get like tested on or like there's some sort of like knowledge exchange or just like information gathered. Like there there's just like it feels like there's more purpose. But similar to Injured Cold, even with the Injured Cold, the Grinning Man case, like there was like oh well look at how humans can evolve and and what you can be and how

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like love and universal understanding. Like there was still some meaning assigned to it. But this is like like what like what? What happened? They hung out maybe five more times. What happened in those five times? Was there some sort of information dump to like help us understand the universe or something or was this just some And also does it need to mean anything or can people just interact with other species and aliens and formations and not need to actually be for any purpose?

Right. Or I don't know. There's a part of me that I'm like if Fay has continued to communicate with Sam and has gotten some message, but Sam has expressed to not share it with the world or like is afraid. And so Fay hasn't come forward to share anything, but maybe at some point they will. Because if I were Fay, at this point in my life I'd be like yeah, I'll talk about it. I'll be open unless there's a reason to not be open.

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Mhm. Or if Fay never really got visited again and this was all just a fabrication of that one author. It makes me think about all the other people who are saying that they're getting alien communication and how different the types of beings are and I'm like are there just a bunch of different alien species that are all trying to communicate through these particular people or is this like one particular thing that's showing up differently and spreading different like iterations of itself to try to connect with as many humans as possible.

[sighs and gasps]

That's so tricky cuz like in my mind I'm like I for sure believe that there are so many different types of aliens in the universe. Mhm. Our universe is infinite. I think you're I'm going to say I think you're dumb if you don't think aliens are real. Like I think you're very close-minded. Yeah. Like and aliens don't have to be like ET. They don't have to be Sam the Sandown Clown either. They could be like literal just like microbiomes. Yes. Or things that we can't even that we can

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even understand. Yeah. But there is there is matter that exists outside of our bubble. 100%.

Yeah. So I don't know. But I believe in Sam the Sandown Clown and I I actually would like to meet Sam. Yeah, it's it's interesting. That's so weird. So like this story has become a lot more popularized lately because of all the ocean stuff. Like we had three or four I know Eric from Patreon recommended it but we had we had like three or four people be like have you looked into Sam the Sandown Clown? That it was like enough people where I was like well now I need to.

Yeah, like what is this? The clown thing

listener story

is so confusing and of course I did not pick an alien story because you said in our like little tracker where we keep track of our what topics are coming up so we don't choose the same thing. You put alien {slash} clown so I was like oh I'll lean on the clown side of course that was the wrong way to go.

[laughter]

I know I was going to text you and I was going to say like if you can find something that's clown and alien bonus points but I also didn't want to spoil

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anything.

That did not happen. Yeah.

[laughter]

You just went clown for me. I just went straight clown. That's fine. Well here's the thing a haunted clown isn't actually a clown either. It's a ghost. Sort of. And what are ghosts?

it or is it Sam? And Sam's not quite a ghost, but in a way he is. So, here we go. Here we go.

connects. We found a way. This is from our listener Amber. Hello. Boy, do I have a story for you. Okay.

When I was about three, my grandma got me a wind-up clown doll. It was a little over a foot tall. It wore a pink and white silk jumpsuit with a matching hat, had black shoes, large painted blue eyes, and clown makeup with white fluffy hair, and a ball on its nose that would spin when it walked. This thing was creepy enough to look at, but when you wound it up to make it move, it would play this haunting music box-style song that is enough to make me get goosebumps just thinking about it. After a little over a year of having this monstrosity,

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my parents decided to sell it at a car boot sale, similar to a yard sale, but in England, everyone sort of just congregates in a large field or a parking lot and sells them out of their trunks. Like it. Yeah. Yeah. After a few hours of being there, some buffoon took a liking to this creep show of a toy and paid whatever low low price my parents were offering to get it off of our hands. Anyway, spring forward a few weeks, and in the middle of the night, we hear that song. My dad came into my room to look for the toy. I was already awake and crying because I didn't understand what was happening and why my dad just stormed into my room, but we couldn't find anything. A few days later, the same song came tinkling through the house again. But this time my dad realized that it wasn't coming from my room or another room. It was coming from the attic. So, he pulled out the ladder, went up to the attic only to find a horrifying melody coming from the middle of the

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attic floor, where, you guessed it, the clown was walking. Walking? Yep. Being wound up and walking around the attic. Not only had that thing somehow made it back to the house, but it had been wound up enough on more than one occasion to be able to walk and play its creepy little song with that ball spinning on its nose. My dad grabbed the doll, took it outside, burned it in a trash can, and since that we have not had any more problems with it thankfully. But I will never ever forget that horrible horrible toy. I'm not sure why my grandma thought that this was a good choice,

[laughter]

but uh yeah, led to a cool story. Stay spooky and keep putting out the amazing podcast. See you on the other side. Amber. What the heck? And also like yes, it was creepy before they had tried to sell it, but it was once they sold it that it really that it came

I mean it came back.

back and it going into the attic. It's not just like it showed up again in the

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garage or something where you're like maybe the person tracked me down and like you can't assign any sort of logical reasoning No. to it just appearing again in the attic. And it going off in the middle of the night. It's not like it's randomly going off and like the battery is dead and you're hearing it constantly. No, it's the middle of the night in the attic meaning something has to be winding it up to make it move and do its thing. And it's not like the dad is just pranking his daughter in some cruel way. He's scared. He's burning it in the trash can and trying to get rid of it. No, thank.

Would much rather encounter Sam than

[laughter]

100%

windup old clown doll toy. 100% Sam over this. Mhm. Wow. Well, dang. Well, dang. What a delightful episode, wouldn't you say? Moo. Everyone get down on your hands and knees and moo. Shake your booty and moo.

[laughter]

No clapping, just mooing. Just mooing.

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Moving and booing, that's what we do here at Two Girls One Ghost and make up stories about the Titanic being It's not made up, it's real. by a cryptid that lurched a iceberg at it. Yeah. Those things.

Hey, if other people rewrite history, why can't I? And you're doing it in a less harmful way. Yeah.

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So, there's that. Please email us your encounters, your ghost stories. If you've encountered any aliens like Sam the Sandown Clown, or if you know more about Sam the Sandown Clown, or if you just experienced anything paranormal, please email us to twogirlsoneghostpodcast@gmail.com. If you're not sure how to spell that, it's in the description. It's also on our website. You can find it. You've got this. We believe in you. Um [laughter] You got here. You're already halfway there.

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fun, very spooky, and it's also just such a great community. Thank you to Jamie Ryan who edits and produces our podcast. Thank you, Jamie. And thank you to all of you. We love you. And we will see you on the other side. Very spooky.