THE MOST HAUNTED DOLL | The Entity within Peggy the Doll Pt. 1 (Ep 243)

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very spooky hi howdy hello this is two girls one ghost two girls one ghost and I'd like to well first I like to introduce ourselves that's Karen and I'm Sabrina hello and I'd like to present a warning up front of this episode perfect thank you and the next episode The Following Tarter might possess or haunt you happy holidays this is poorly timed for us we're going on the road and now we're possessed or perfectly time oh my

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gosh I mean already we're having a ton of audio and recording issues so yeah like 10 minutes to even be able to start I've been bit by so many mosquitoes which warning everything's warning us to not do it well and if anyone listened to the episode that came out last week you'll know that I had discussed doing a haunted doll named Peggy and I had the worst nightmares that I could have ever even thought of it was like the worst it was like what would happen in a movie that would be banned in most countries that those were my nightmares so I was like this is my warning that I am not supposed to be researching this and Sabrina was like well I will I'll do it so this is it and it's turned into a two-parter I will say I have not had anything negative happen

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that's good you said you've been cleansing your space a bunch too right I have been and in preparation for this I've read a book that I devoured so quickly and I read it I decided to read it at the beach rather than at my home because good call it has a lot of warnings to people who have pets or just also I didn't want to make my space I didn't want to fill my space my beautiful home with such good energy with anything negative and here we are now recording it in this beautiful home so whoops in the beautiful home I know it's concerning me I should have done my ribbon wrapping technique I'm mad at myself that I I didn't before this well we'll have good intentions but I guess for all of the people out there who have said that they've experienced a lot of hauntings listening to our podcast perhaps this episode and next week's episode is a great one to listen to when

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you're like outside on a walk in a park or somewhere that's not your home sunny day absorb all the Good Vibes and maybe be ready to or just we can talk through a little bit before we get into the actual subject matter maybe we can talk all of us through some type of protective wording phrasing to set good intentions for everyone that being said before we get into Peggy which I feel like some my neighbors name is Peggy and so I feel like every time I say it she's going to be like why are you talking about me Peggy it's a different Peggy this will be the one episode she listens to right I have a ghost story and Karen you've heard this but when we were in Toronto for our show in Toronto I got lunch with some of my cousins because I have my aunt and her six kids and their families all live in Ontario right outside of Toronto so they came to the show which was really really fun and I got lunch with them beforehand and it

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was a gossip session like a family gossip session that I've never had before because they're in Canada so I don't see them that often and when I would see them it would be a whole big family event so it was the first like o we're friends you can't talk [ __ ] on your family when your family's right there with you right so I got a couple ghost stories because I was talking to them about my dad and his like past life aggression therapy and all of that because this is my dad's side of the family and and Colleen one of my cousins who listens hey Colleen she went home and asked my aunt her mom for more stories and so for people who don't remember my dad some people believe he's possessed by a past life because in his sleep he speaks a different language he has battled with something for his whole life and he did a past life regression hypnosis therapy and discovered that this past life of his they even found

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his name they were able to like go back in records and I don't have the specifics of that but basically this man in his past life was not a great guy he harmed people he was he just didn't follow the rules and this past life of his is almost trying to come through in my dad's current life and take over or influence my dad in some ways which has been a really really difficult thing for my dad so I brought this up at lunch apparently my aunt goes that makes so much sense because in childhood and my aunt is older so in childhood my dad was convinced like something bad had happened and that he had done something bad but my aunt was like there's no way that he did but because it was so present in his young age it felt so real to him and it's already confusing too

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when you have really realistic like dreams and and stuff it's hard to differentiate so as a child if he's having all of these memories from a past life come forward I'm sure it was yeah really difficult to understand is that like me now or is that something I'm remembering from another time well and also think of the past life stories that we've heard and read on the podcast where they're usually like pretty lovely lives they know how they died they remember their family but this is like like my dad's is dark yeah so he also apparently growing up they went and did this like scouting trip and they were in a cemetery or maybe they were in a camping area and all of a sudden he like swore that there were two older like a woman in a man both dressed in Victorian ER clothing he was so convinced that they were there and no one else saw it this was a scouting Like a Boy Scouts trip yeah I think like Scouts yeah yeah yeah okay or like some type of camping they he grew up in

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Pakistan I don't know what the Pakistani version of it is so it was with a group of a lot of other kids and people that weren't just immediate family members when he was witnessing this and experiencing this got it okay and keep in mind these are just like a couple stories that I got really quickly from my cousin and my aunt but there are so many so I'm just going to tell two more the next one my aunt said her and my dad shared a room in Muscat and my dad like woke up in the middle of the night like truly shot up in bed and start saying like they're coming for us we have to get out of here we have to get out of here we have to get out of here like staring forward in a trance and my aunt obviously is freaked the [ __ ] out it's the middle of the night who is coming for them so it's scary totally fine he was already a creepy kid too yeah I know seriously makes it worse and so she has to like go over to him and he's in a trance and he like just falls back into bed and and falls asleep and my aunt was

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like I definitely did not go back to sleep that night and then last story and then we're going to get into Peggy the last story is I think it's the same house where this their coming story happened but they lived in this house and for some reason there was a bathroom in like the main area that they just never used to the point where my grandma put a chair in front of the door to like keep it closed from which means that it's they were scared of whatever was inside the bathroom it's reminding me of that one bathroom stall in hotel Captain Cook which it's just like you lock away your problems you ignore it but that's so spooky an entire room sealed off in a bathroom nonetheless with like children and a whole family like you need an extra bathroom you always need an extra bathroom you never go wrong with an extra bathroom so they have this locked they're living there I don't know how many years they liveed there but they live there for a while they never use this bathroom apparently they all got

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bad vibes from this bathroom like they'd walk by it and they'd want to like walk by it really really quickly they'd hear things behind the door it felt very very very bad intentions whatever's behind there do you know what they would hear was it like rattles footsteps or was it like Whispers do you know did they tell you the details of what they heard let me see if she wrote the I'm so curious cuz it's like my my dad when he lived in a apartment complex one time when he was in college or just after college he and his roommate would hear across this the hallway from them people talking and it was a completely vacant apartment but they would constantly hear people talking so it's like they knew it was ghosts because it was people talking and not maybe like I don't know a bird inside because things weren't getting like knocked around and squawks so this is okay she said granny put a chair against it and mom kept saying something was in there there she could always feel

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things like moving past her if she was by that room like things were moving in there when they moved out there was a rat found in there but like when they would hear these noises they knew like they would check and they'd have they had an exterminator come there were no animals and there was this like living rat in there and apparently they all believed that it was something evil that took the shape of a rat because when they saw the rat it like didn't look like a rat like shape shiftery ew ew ew ew ew keep in mind this family is like very very Catholic my grandma is a devout Catholic goes to church multiple times a week so she doesn't want to buy in or really approach and talk about these things but she's had so many experiences she's also the one who when my grandfather passed away she was getting these phone calls night after night at the time that we believe was when my grandfather passed away and we think it was him calling her but apparently there's like psychic

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abilities in that family and we all believe that my grandma has them but she just won't interact how old was your dad or or how old was your your grandparents when they moved from Pakistan to the North American continent K this is bringing up my desire to start a podcast about my family because my dad has so many secrets so many Secrets at least DNA solved 23 and me solved a few of them for you you now know some of your bloodline I always knew my bloodline for the most part but it was more the secrets are more like what happened in the family like family stories and there's like one rumor that I really am curious about but it happened in Pakistan and like records are weird anyway there was something that happened in Pakistan my dad was sent to boarding school in England and he came to the states for college my grandparents lived in Oman until like 2000 I want to believe I think something like that and then they move to the states okay

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because I was just curious like do you think the reluctance to be kind of like psychic witchy understand her power is very personal and has to do maybe with some of the Catholicism which is also hard pilled to swallow because it's so it's so personal how people experience religion because some people might have those feelings and abilities and be like oh my gosh I'm seeing Angels I'm seeing I'm so connected like I speak to God but she's saying I don't want to talk about this I don't believe in this at all but I was curious what culturally was the belief in the area that she was living in too and if that had any influence on her there's a lot of beliefs I mean that's where the what are those trees like this the Gin spirits that like are in those trees the one that we talked about from haai really like we be like they regrow trees with their roots oh my gosh I keep wanting to say Bonsai and it's not right banion Banyon

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tree banion trees yes yes yes there you go so they believed like Spirits were in those trees I don't I'll have to this is where my investigative journalism podcast I can't even say the words but this is where my podcast begins yeah your dad would hate that I know would mostly be an expose on his life as if we don't already have a weird relationship it is so wild though to think that you know like there was a part of him things that he did in his past life that seeped through things that were repeated behaviors actions that he was trying so hard to get away from but they came for him and it happened again in this life I almost think of your Dad's life like the way that there's always like this Darkness or like this past that feels so present it feels like a movie where he's like constantly trying to get to the next life and Escape it but his past keeps coming from fascinating his soul keeps trying to like jump and be like I'm

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getting away from it but he can't he always succumbs to it again okay I kind of feel like Zach beins and my dad should like hang out because you you feel the darkness has gotten Zach as well well I almost feel like I I feel like Zach has a has a past life that is almost trying to come through too I don't know they give me similar Vibes I've never met Zach I've only met his Persona on television right but there's just something similar there's something going on I don't know yeah some people just have that where you're like we know there's more happening yeah and there's also like this childlike energy to both of them where I feel like they both just need to be held in a womb they need the rebirthing therapy we should put them in one of those deprivation pods just in complete darkness like in the water honestly and just sing some songs outside and go through an entire life's conversation nine months of conversation so they feel like they're back in the

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womb wait that's kind of cool come Out Come a new I'd be so depressed if I was kept in nine months of darkness actually so when I was struggling with my sickness when the Rona got me I couldn't go outside cuz I was quarantined and yeah I get plenty of sunlight in here through the windows but there's nothing like actually having the sun like hit your skin and I started crying on like day three and I was like I'm just so sad I haven't been outside and then I looked at Brian and I was like I'll never survive in a bunker and it just like threw me into an AB I like dissolve my bunker Dreams yeah oh man so yeah no that therapy wouldn't work for me but may maybe this new therapy for your dad I'm sorry that your dream has been taken away from you by yourself I'll survive three days that's what I know three days in a bunker and then then my mental illnesses will catch up to me okay I

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think you would survive more because 3 days inside while sick is different than three days inside not sick I think you could do more than three days if you were like feel energized and do things and if we have our lazy river in the bunker then you're good exactly I feel like it's Barbie's dreamhouse but a bunker that's what ours is going to be Barbie's Dream bunker Barbie's Dream bunker dual lipo will perform every night I love that she's in our bunker okay great everyone's invited except for you Ken well Ryan goling you're ined just I learned nothing from the movie clearly okay well speaking of learning and speaking of our Lord and savior Zach beins I am a little bummed that this that we didn't get to go to Vegas before this because I was really hoping that we could go to Zach's Museum and visit Peggy before talking about Peggy I know which was the plan but then we got yeah November we will visit Peggy I am about

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to tell you a story okay everyone buckle up brace yourselves yeah and a couple warnings if your pets start acting up or you start to see a lot of flies I would highly recommend pausing this episode and doing a little bit of like a cleansing ribbon wrapping technique and take care of yourself before you continue on and also a 10-second ribbon wrapping technique instruction right now for anyone who's like what is that close your eyes sit somewhere or stand somewhere or lay somewhere and picture a ribbon any type of ribbon any type of thickness any type of color whatever feels right to you have it start at the top the crown of your head circle around your entire body until it goes past your toes and closes Zips off and then you're protected it can take 30 seconds it could take 15 minutes whatever feels right I won't do it cuz personally when I do it it takes me like 10 20 minutes every single time the ribbon controls its own speed it's

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getting stuck on my butt on your butt oh yeah like can't get it past my butt you got a big a big bump you got to stretch the ribbon I found you miss new booty okay I think I got it who I'll set another intention in a moment okay okay the content of this episode and the subject matter of which we are about to discuss is known to cause intense reactions emotionally mentally and physically so please be warned and listen at your own risk oh also if you start to feel heart palpitations please stop listening oh my God what am I gonna do if I feel this I can continue as a onew woman show and you can listen to it back later you can like do director's edit where you come in and do like commentary oh yeah well in this part I would have said or I should just I'll record myself going oh my God no way this is the story of a object that is

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haunted or perhaps possessed reading about looking at or listening to information about this object has caused hundreds if not thousands of reactions worldwide this is Peggy the doll a doll with a spirit or spirs attached to it the entity contained in this petite and unassuming object is believed responsible to be the perpetrator of Amnesia rage headaches seizures strokes and heart attacks these stories are not to be taken lightly these are horrible yes and we highly advise you take precautions prior to listening to this episode yeah especially I mean that was an intense warning section I feel like normally it's like oh you might have a stomach ache you might throw up you might feel faint this is like you might die no one

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no one has died I will give that to no one has died good yeah I also think there's a little bit of a misunderstanding about this doll okay let's give Miss Peg benefit of the doubt Blank Slate new reputation she's in her reputation era yeah but there is a quote this is like you know how like if someone were to rate and review Peggy the doll this is this is the review this is a quote from a previous owner of the doll okay that doll nearly ruined my life I want to forget it ever existed and I hope God protects you all what a warning what message was this on eBay when when she auctioned it off like what we'll get there okay so to set intentions again like I'm I've said I have yet to experience anything strange in connection to doing the research I want to be very clear right now that I build

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around me and around all of you and you kin a space of light love and positivity nothing with ill intent or dark energy is permitted to enter this space this bubble of protection extends to my home my pets my loved ones to yukarin and all of those who may listen that being said the YouTube video will contain images of the doll and of some things that we're going to talk about so if you do desire the visual component of the episode please come watch it over here okay thank you this is so weird I kind of like naturally I like went like this just as like a little visual like put my hand around as you were doing the intentions but then I set my hand up and I as you were doing the intentions I felt like I did get like a little bit of buzzing on my hand like I was absorbing it so I'm going to for the rest of the episode have my hand down and closed and keep all the protection in and not let anything else come near me it's kind of kind like yoga where like where you know

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if you need to get energy you have your palms up but if you're trying to balance and ground your energy put your hands down yeah well all the way from California I've received your message thank you so this is part one of what is arguably one of the most haunted objects in the world we've heard of Annabelle we've heard of Robert the doll of Chucky but today we're sharing a story of another doll Peggy the doll we talked to em and Christine and they said this is the scariest thing that they had ever covered and they refused to use the name Peggy which they then referred to the doll as PD I know this does feel like you saying it so many times feels like when you're not supposed to say a name like three times or whatever but I think you're already at seven so but it does feel wrong well here's what it doesn't feel wrong to me because not anywhere in this research did I see reference of not saying the name and okay okay also I do believe the spirit's

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name is Peggy so I'm honoring her by using her name okay if we do feel uncomfortable we can pull it back no I think I I don't know anything about her other than I feel like she haunted you the reputation isn't great so and I had horrible nightmares so for reference I'm going to credit the book that's called Peggy the doll a very different haunting I highly recommend that you read it because while I do feel like I'm doing a good good job of covering the whole story there is a lot more the book is 115 Pages it's a very quick read it's written by Jane Harris with whom this Story begins Jane and Simon Harris are a couple from starbridge UK who have dedicated their lives to Paranormal investigations they run HD paranormal research and have a dedicated space in their home similar to the new Kirks where they keep and research haunted objects so they've been doing this for

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years I think they opened the company in 2012 so 11 years they've been doing this and even before that they had been interested into the Paranormal with their company they do like ghost hunts they do tours you can reach out to them like someone with this story does Jane's interest began when she was a teenager she said she had met a woman who owned a haunted doll that turned the TV on and off and rattled forks and knives the kitchen drawer so her interest began with a doll and since then she has spent much of her life inquiring further on paranormal and has become a resource for people who do not know where to go she is a qualified psychologist and a master herbalist she and her husband Simon Harris co-founded this company and Simon has developed many new paranormal investigative tools like the Dual scrier so he's a bit of an engineer when it comes to Paranormal investigative tools cool little inventor yeah okay so they

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started the company in 2012 and in the following years they began receiving messages from all sorts of people requesting their help with hauntings people would be like my house is haunted help me what do I do people would say I have a haunted object help me what do I do some people reach out and request that Simon and Jane come retrieve or remove the object from their home so when in 2014 Jane opened her inbox to find an email with the subject line doll it was not out of the ordinary it was September 9th 2014 this email was long and erratic it was panicked The emailer Who Harris in her book referred to as JW for privacy and anonymity was apparently desperate the second photo is the email I'm going to read it but if anyone likes a visual reference to follow along this is apparently a paraphrased vers paraphrased version of the email Jane

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took out a lot of the like rambling because it was a lot of the same stuff okay it says Dear Sir Madame I am writing this in the hope that you can please help me I've reached a point now at which I can't carry on this way let me just explain that I've always had a huge belief in the Paranormal and the idea that Spirits were all around us I didn't know though that they could affect the living the way that they have been affecting me I can't talk to anyone about this as I am sure they will think I am crazy some days I do wonder if I'm crazy myself I have a doll here which I am sure is causing my house maybe even me to be haunted if I hadn't lived through it for the last few months I would think that that sounded completely insane I read that you have a lot of experience so please reply and tell me what I should do the doll is no longer in my house and I will not have it here I can't sleep at all today is now the

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fifth day that I have been awake no sleep at all there is a figure that comes to me at night stands at my bed it is dark a lady I think but it doesn't move or speak I end up Frozen to the bed in fear I tried to put a cross on my wall and pray to Jesus but it does not help please come soon JW I mean that is five nights it's so hard too because it's like I know is this person after five nights of not sleeping are they just delirious and they're seeing things or is or is there something there is this maybe one of the worst hauntings you'll ever experience this is the most haunted doll you'll ever find and also where's the doll now we'll find out they were like the doll I don't have the doll right now where'd you put it okay so it was still in her possession just not in her home like she refused to have it in the same home the

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scary thing is that we still to this day do not know the exact details of what happened with JW and this doll all we have is that email and the knowledge that whatever it was has caused her to not sleep for five nights and that continuously every night this Spirit of a woman is standing at the edge of her bed dang so Jade and Simon are like well this seems interesting so together with their good friend and reliable psychic Hazel Meers who is a whole other I mean story on her own but there's a whole chapter actually about hazel in the book so if you want to know more about her you can read that they the three of them drove to Sheffield to retrieve this doll and Hazel is a psychic so she every time they go together to go collect a haunted doll she does her protective things and she's very she grounds herself and places a protection around everyone mhm she starts doing this she calls upon her

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Spirit guides for protection and something that has never happened to her before happens instead of her Spirit guides appearing to her the face of a man appeared and he spoke three words to her they won't help meaning her Spirit guides won't help not with this that's so spooky it's like who is this guy are you keeping my spirit guides captive right now are they afraid of you or are you like the boss of the Spirit guides and you're like hell no are we getting involved I don't know but immediately Hazel's like yeah something is definitely off about all of this about this doll and she doesn't tell Jane and Simon because she doesn't want to worry them as well she's just continuing to speak protection whatever words around the three of them she doesn't feel like it's a negative thing per se like she doesn't think they're in danger but she's just like this is weird something

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is different yeah so they arrive to JW's home and every spidey sense it's like high alert red flags everything just feels off and they were suspicious because this email did seem a bit crazed is this serious they're putting themselves into the home of a stranger like what are they getting into it's definitely there's unease on top of not knowing what the haunting is going to be and then JW opens the door and she is very clearly sleep-deprived she looked like she was a woman on the cusp of a breakdown and in the book Jane talks about they have young kids she's like I know sleep deprivation I know what it's like and I recognize it in this woman I could tell that she was oh jeez worn down I mean how many days can you go without sleep before you die seven yeah I don't know something like that so the lack of sleep was evident this woman very clearly had not exaggerated in her email and JW

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guides Jane Simon and Hazel to a small out building behind her home so I'm imagining like a shed and immediately upon entering the space Hazel becomes physically Afflicted she becomes light-headed and nauseous the three had no idea what they were coming in here to retrieve like they had not seen any visuals or anything they didn't know what the hauntings would be like but they immediately were like this is something this is way more intense than we thought then they're all kind of standing there in silence and JW does this little ey thing and she looks down like she's not saying anything she looks down to her right and there's something wrapped in a blanket or like it's like something rolled up and she like looks to Jane and Simon and back to the thing like insinuating there it is but she refuses to touch it so Jane picks it up and she's surprised like this is really really light it's not what I expected and so she slowly starts to unroll the

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fabric and pieces of blonde hair come out she unravels it more pale white skin she unravels it more these piercing blue eyes as she's doing this she notices that JW is having a physical reaction like Terror in her eyes she is shaking she looks like she's going to cry and Jane looks at the face of starting to peer back at her and she's all of a sudden struck by loud ringing in her ears and she feels numb so she quickly like wraps the doll back up so they don't even fully unwrap the doll at this moment all they know is blonde hair little doll blue eyes and this woman believes that this doll is responsible for what she was experiencing correct and the second Jane looks at it she starts having a physical reaction to it as well so it kind of seems appropriate awfully suspicious yes so Simon Jane and Hazel

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are all like okay we should probably let's just keep this doll wrapped up safe in this little like bundle and keep it like this and then we'll bring it home and we can do the investigation properly and set like a cleansing and keep the space clear when we actually unwrap her so when they're leaving JW's house they asked JW if she would like to be updated on what Jane Simon and Hazel discover to which JW responds and this is the quote I read earlier in the episode that doll nearly ruined my life I want to forget it ever existed and I hope God protects you all okay I understand where she's coming from but I do wish that we had access I know to more of her story but you have to respect that she's like absolutely not this thing is finally gone hopefully she has found peace she's not haunted by this thing anymore but I I'm so curious

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and you know what we still have enough to do a two-parter on this so so we're okay hold on to your butts we're okay if your Ribbon can get over your butt hold on to it hold on to it so Jane and Simon Harris are now in possession of something very very powerful they had no idea what the next two years would hold for them but this doll was about to change their lives so Jane Simon and Hazel returned to starbridge UK with this doll and this is not their first rodeo nor their first haunted doll so they establish a routine in order to begin investigating haunted objects their home has plenty of other haunted objects so they basically set up isolation they set up equipment they have night vision cameras digital cameras EMF readers motion detectors temperature gauges Etc like they have all the bells and whistles set up and they are putting this doll who at the time does not have an name keep in mind so they're putting this doll in this

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space and they unwrap it and they reveal like this white dress and it's very beautiful the one thing I'm not clear of in the picture which we can show now there's a cross around this doll's neck of the doll should should I look at it if you would like to it's really not that scary oh she looks like a golden girl yeah she's cute she yeah she's so cute but I'm not clear on whether or not they put the cross on it because there's a part of the story where it's a little I don't know either it it was on the doll or they put it on there I don't know but so they set up all these things in order to monitor environmental changes that are brought on by the presence of a new object and so they leave this doll in isolation with all of these tools and they monitor and usually usually I say this usually asterisk after after a couple of days they would review all of the stuff and they would

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begin to attempt to contact the spirit but all three Jane Simon and Hazel kind of don't engage no like usually someone would be like okay let's go investigate let's go try to talk to the spirit they all three just like don't talk about it huh so they're monitoring it but they're clearly all trying to put it off for as long as possible yeah which to me just means like right off the B there were bad vibes that all of them were picking up on yeah and it's like you don't want to talk about something if everything in your body is telling you not to yeah six weeks after bringing the doll home they still had not attempted communication six weeks after bringing the doll home Jane becomes horribly ill I don't know if this is like she became sick after six weeks or she was starting to get sick and by six weeks of having the doll she's like very very sick yeah

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she can hardly get out of bed she's super weak light-headed and has zero energy which was interesting because remember yesterday we were supposed to record and I woke up with zero energy like so lethargic I know I was like are you okay so there was part of me that was like is it that or is it I'm a woman and I have hormones and I'm tired and I'm getting my period yes the curse of Womanhood yes so Jane and Simon have two young kids at this time so they were like well maybe this is just normal exhaustion from everyday life you've been working really hard Simon's like take some time relax like I'll I'll take charge for a little bit and I'll let you recuperate but days pass it gets worse she's not getting better so they go to doctor she gets blood tests everything is normal like there's no thyroid issue there's no light like iron deficiencies nothing she is in perfect health and yet she has no energy she can't wake up right so Hazel is like I have an idea Jane why don't I take the doll off of

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your hands just to see maybe the doll is taking your energy like a hor Crux Jane is like okay let's try that but first I do want to like we haven't engaged with this doll at all I want to do a bit of an experiment so this is fascinating she ends up booking an appointment with a local medium the medium's name is Patricia Redmond and she uses a false name because she doesn't want the psychic to look her up or have any like knowledge that Jane is a paranormal like in the Paranormal space basically so she's like okay booking my appointment under pseudonym I'm G to bring the doll with me so on November 5th of 2014 Jane puts the doll in her car and drives to the medium immediately when she's greeted by Patricia Patricia's like oh like you can your your two friends can come in they don't have to sit in the car and Jane's like what two two friends Patricia looks said Jane is like well didn't you just you just drove in in the black 4x4 right

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there was a man and a woman with you I've CHS all over my body Jane shakes her head and is like nope and the two of them have this like clear look of acknowledgement being like okay we are talking about God I'm proud of Jane for coming up with this plan in the first place because I think this is a great plan and this gives me more faith in her as a Paranormal Investigator too like she's already trying to make sure everything is completely valid and sound and real and not just people reacting based off what she tells them so good plan but yeah startling to do you see the flies around me no are you [ __ ] me are you [ __ ] kidding me Sabrina but my door is open my my door because Leia is outside my door is open there's no screens here this is like not like a it just I don't have bad vibes I promise I have no bad vibes it's just an

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interesting and this one's just sitting here let me just take a picture of it little guy oh I hate this I Pray my sweet little raggedy and doll in the corner is not afflicted by whatever comes from this episode it's just sitting here it's like sitting by my zoom it's just listening hey it's the two Spirits they're just this is the test they're going to see how respectful we can be of their story you better be respectful of me okay yeah it's a two-way street I also have um bread dough rising and I think they're in they're over the kitchen witch is breaking more bread okay now there's four of there's four of them okay so Patricia and Jane are now staring at each other and Patricia does this weird thing and she takes like a step backwards and she kind of pauses and then she looks at Jane and she goes

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I'm so sorry I cannot do a reading for you today she tells Jane that the moment that Jane walked in the energy in the room became very heavy and it felt like everything in the psychic space was like very like cloudy and so it felt like she was incapable of doing a reading oh my gosh so Spirit guides are hiding from this thing psychics don't want to encounter this thing or people or energies whatever the heck it is everybody's closing the door on this yes she's like you can come back another time and Jane's like Noe that's all that's all I needed to know so Jane never goes back and she is like yes there's for sure things or something or multiple things connected to this doll and I very much believe they're impacting my health so let's keep in mind a man and a woman in the car let's just remember that keep that in the back of your head okay so Hazel takes possession of the doll and after three weeks Jane is back

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to normal she feels totally fine and she's like okay I'm good let's start to investigate and I think they do a couple of like seances or type I don't know how but Hazel necessarily does it but she communicates with the spirit and they receive the name Peggy I'm not totally sure of the timeline where this is but I I imagine one of the first things they did is they got the name mhm they were given the name Peggy and through further communication and then research they believed that the spirit had connection to Hyde Park in London and had potentially died in 1946 from a tightness in her chest so maybe a heart attack yeah Peggy the spirit was afraid of Institutions so those are like information that they learned through communication with her oh no just makes me so sad because it's bringing me back to the classic insane asylum predicament where people were horribly mistreated yes makes me worry for her so they have

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this knowledge and then completely separate Simon finds a psychic somewhere else in the world where they have no knowledge of anything that they had already communicated with this doll or with hazel whatnot and this psychic had received the Name Margaret which is Peggy is a nickname for Margaret so after these two names are coming through they are like we believe her name is Peggy let's call her Peggy the doll Jane actually did some research and found death records for a Peggy Hines who lived in Hyde Park London and was born in an institution and died in 1946 oh this seems promising right I don't think they found anything more on that but it does seem promising and therefore the name Peggy the doll was born and they belied that they were communicating with the spirit Peggy now at this point they've kind of accumul ated a lot of following they have their company HD paranormal they have their

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website where they are in constant communication like kind of like a Blog they are posting a lot on their website and a lot of their subscribers will follow along read things they like to see what Jane and Simon are collecting or what objects they have so it's now early 2015 and they had picked up the doll September late September early October of 2014 they now know Peggy's name they're like okay let's let introduce her to our followers on February 25th 2015 Jane and Simon posted the photo that I had showed you we can put it up here again of the doll on their website that is the exact photo that they posted okay Simon and Jane received hundreds of private messages within the first two days of posting the image these are all private messages this is the first time this doll is published on the internet anywhere and they are receiving hundreds of private messages all of them are containing very

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similar reports these are the words light-headedness heart palpitations fear petsgo berserk fear just looking at the image of this doll was physically afflicting people from all over the world wait this is kind of reminding me of Billy the idol the GRE and Dana nuker cap where everyone was afflicted with nightmares yes just anyone who looked at the picture were just yeah crippled by these terrifying nightmares wow oh Peggy I know the image shows the doll with a cross around her neck and this is why I was not sure when the cross was put on because in those responses and messages 28 of them say that they felt like the cross should be removed from the doll some people were hearing voices that said the spirit hated the symbol of the cross interesting so this is the first intense

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reaction with the doll like this is the first time it's in the public and immediately it's it's causing an intense reaction and truly Simon and Jane were like someone's messing with us this is probably someone creating multiple emails and just sending us the same thing over and over like it's a it's a joke but it wasn't no I mean that's so much effort too to make hundreds of emails to be like you to very specific people I'm going to make you worry about a doll out of everything in your possession I'm going to simultaneously like add fuel to the fire with this doll by scaring you it does make me curious too with the religious aspect of it if Peggy had some religious trauma and that trauma is what made her feel so disgusted and like held captive by this religious necklace on her maybe or maybe you'll have another theory by the end of this episode

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okay so Simon and Jane are like let's do an automatic writing session with the doll now it's March 16th 2015 the plan is for Jane to drive over to Hazel's with Peggy where Hazel would do an automatic writing session so on the way to Hazel's Jane films a short video from her car she has Peggy right next to her she's seen in the car beside her and Jane just kind of like explains what they're going to do and how Hazel is going to serve as a conduit in which a spirit can write through her she then posts this video on their Facebook group she arrives to Hazel probably like 10 minutes later and she checks her phone and she's surprised to see there's this woman by the name of Katrine reic who has sent a couple messages the first message hi what's going on with Peggy my heart is racing so fast and I feel dizzy I'm in pain 7 minutes later after I saw your post it vanished from the website and my phone

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went crazy sure enough the video is gone and then Jane is like wait that's so weird so she's checking it is vanished she has it's nowhere and Jane says she's afflicting people currently I'm trying to get to the bottom of it all and Katrina is like my heart is racing like a horse she is not well so Jane is like okay krine maybe you take a break from your computer I hope it's nothing concerning but just like like don't look at Peggy step away from your computer protect yourself right so watching that watching that video is What affected her yes okay and it the video then deletes and makes her phone go crazy geez so Jane's like okay well this is the point of investigating we're about to do an automatic writing session and she puts her phone down she's like okay I'm with hazel now we're gonna do this so they put Peggy the doll in a chair next to Hazel's fireplace there candles lit up Hazel has like set everything as she does and she sits at a small desk by the

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window while Jane is there kind of overseeing Hazel takes a deep breath and before closing her eyes she looks at Jane and she said the following we're provoking something today I think I don't know what yet but I just feel like something is about to happen what an ominous feeling I would be [ __ ] myself they spent one hour communicating with Peggy and in that hour the energy in the room shifted dramatically like it was very heavy and in that hour they asked the spirit for a sign and in that hour a woman some 300 miles north of Jane Hazel and Peggy the doll had a heart attack not just any woman Katrine Reck what the woman who had immediately responded to Jan's Facebook post during

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the hour of this automatic writing session had a heart attack and survived oh my God thank God jeez like I said no one has died heck this makes me so stressed out Katrine fully believes that encountering Peggy the doll that afternoon opened her up psychically and then she became the target of a spirit which then caused her to suffer a heart attack she survived and you know maybe you could say it's all a coincidence but this is not the end of katrine's story nor is this the only time Peggy just the image of Peggy has caused a physical ailment to this extent my gosh more on that a little later but so naturally Jane Simon and Hazel are growing more and more concerned about the spirit like what the heck is it and why is it causing this messages continue to pour in from people all over the world reports of nightmares of pets being attacked of experiencing anger and headaches what is this so I'm going to read a couple of

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encounters from people who viewed the image of Peggy the doll and I'm going to read a couple in this episode and I will read more in the next episode there are so many so many so it will be impossible to read all of them but one of the first ones so remember they first posted the picture in February of 2015 so some of these are like initial responses Jake Claire messaged and said Jane when you get the chance can you contact me please I've had a migraine in palpitation since seeing this doll M Taylor wrote I am not a psychic medium not even that sensitive really Jane but I feel so so very very sick and spinny when I saw that doll of yours I think it's just her energy but do you feel it in person at one point after I'd seen your photograph I was thinking about her eyes and I felt like the floor was moving or if I was like on a ship or something thing like seasickness is the only way to describe it do you think it's an evil spirit or a

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demon here for a purpose I hope you don't think I'm crazy but I'm sure it's not just me H Dr s Collins wrote you should know that the doll you're working with now is having a strange effect on me since I saw the picture last night I have felt like someone is in my home watching me at around midnight last night I had her image on the Monitor and it started distorting and flickering I then heard something like sh before getting cold down my entire left side I turned the monitor off and everything was fine Jay Carlton inquired whether or not cats and dogs can sense evil and said ever since I opened the image my little Terrier Molly has been snarling and growling at the screen and Molly the terrier is not the only pet to experience Peggy's Spirit it does seem like Peggy's spirit and image seems to trigger dogs more than cats but there is one really really terrible horrid experience that I am going to share with you trigger warning it involves the death of a pet oh no I know and Jane

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says in her book I'm going to spare you a lot of the details which this woman did not do to her and it's gruesome already okay so if you don't want to hear it I would fast forward 30 to 40 seconds yeah this feels like that Black Mirror episode where I wish just everything that was inappropriate for me would just be blurred out fade away be blurred out yeah a woman from Virginia contacted Jane to let her know that every time she viewed an image of Peggy or read about her she would have horrible nightmares the nightmare was always the same in the nightmare her cat was being chased by an unseen thing that eventually would catch the cat and choke her to death and then leave the cat at the outside of the front door three months after seeing the image of Peggy for the first time this woman woke up and was leaving her house in the morning and was shocked to find outside of her front door was her cat seemingly choked to death this is where

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I draw the line no harm to animals right no harm to people no harm no harm no harm geez so keep in mind all of these messages are sent to Jane and Sim privately at least the ones that I just read so they're not on a public forum later when things did get posted on Facebook it became more public but these first ones were private so you know because I feel like it's easy to be like oh someone read one comment and like fed off of it but a lot of these are private mhm so they're receiving these messages Katrina has had a heart attack some say it's coincidence but Jane Simon and Hazel are certain something powerful is at play here so they plan a seance with Reverend Martin Jenkins and it takes place on March 30th 2015 and this is actually a really really fascinating experience because it changed my perception of Peggy a little bit because it's terrifying that Katrina had a heart attack but maybe this will change your mind about things okay so it begins at 11:20 p.m. and it lasted for about an

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hour they're monitoring everything so they have like a temperature of the room is starting at 18 degrees Celsius which is 64 degrees Fahrenheit which I'm like that's a cold temperature to keep a room like I feel like the normal is like 67 anyway yeah that is very chilly if a cold waft came through it would feel colder than cold pretty cold there that's a sharp wind hitting you and maybe that's how you're supposed to do par paranormal investigation I don't know so there are five people present in the room Simon Harris Jane Harris Hazel Myers Martin Jenkins the pastor and then Donna Griffiths who's there as a notetaker the following details are what occurred in that hour so Hazel Begins by asking if Peggy is present with them the EMF reader is triggered starts flashing Hazel reports to the group that she sees a female standing by the altar close to the doll Hazel sees this woman shaking her head no so concerned Hazel is like what's wrong suddenly the temperature in the room drops 2 de everyone feels it

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Hazel asked the spirit if it would like to communicate using a pendulum and places it over her divination board which is similar to a Ouija board it has the alphabet on it the pendulum swings and as it starts swinging Donna reports hearing faint laughter no one else can hear it but Hazel ask Peggy is this you laughing the pendulum swings to yes and then Hazel ask do you fear Crossing into the light the pendulum goes to n o f e a r No Fear so they're not afraid of Crossing into the light okay and then based on the laughter I'm curious like was it a light Airy laughter was it a maniacal dark Sinister chuckle I don't know what was the vibe Peggy was feeling well right now I feel like the vibe's okay vibe's good we're fine Hazel asks are you happy to be communicating with

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us h a p p y happy happy Peggy were you responsible for a recent health problem the pendulum swings to no Hazel asks are you aware of the lady we mean Katrine yes then before they can ask another question the pendulum starts swinging to the letters w e a k weak so Hazel goes what do you mean Peggy and then it spells out t a k e c a r e h e a r t h e l p take care heart help Hazel says were you trying to help pendulum swings to yes oh okay because initially when you

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were just before you even gave this response when it was like Peggy wasn't responsible for it it made me wonder if Peggy is a spirit that is being held inside this doll held captive by another Spirit or something and so they were like kind of battling it out over this person but oh she was trying to help Justice for Peggy Justice for Peggy Justice for Peggy but then something shifts in this okay Hazel asks do you feel like you have purpose here i k n o w I know Hazel asks Peggy to step forward and make herself known to the group and suddenly Martin and Jane get chills and the temperature drops 8 degrees eight that is a dramatic okay so what was it said out of again it was like 64 yeah and then wasn't it and then it dropped two and then it dropped eight so now it's like it's almost like 50° it's

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like it dropped in Celsius so it's even colder oh [ __ ] I know it's about to snow in this place Jane apparently in this moment when she gets these chills catches glimpse of a woman and in the book she writes like she has maybe seen a full figured Apparition three times in her life and this is one of them and it was really really brief but later she told Hazel what she had seen and Hazel was like that is on par with what I have been seeing hi Lei are we good to keep talking she like give me the canned food and me and Peggy are good so it gets cold I think it gets warmer again Martin asks how they can help her and all of a sudden like things change like what they were feeling before is no longer what they're feeling anymore there's a sudden tapping across the room and it seems like there's wind inside this room like the atmosphere shifts like weather starts to

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exist and then the pendulum starts to spin to random letters like all over the place and they're like what are you trying to say are you trying to warn us and it goes to yes and then it spells out t e l l t h e m a l l tell them all and they're like what what do you mean tell them what and it just everything goes quiet the room settles the temperature returns to 18 Dees they keep trying to communicate with Peggy but Peggy is gone whatever was there is gone and the session is over so what the heck tell them all what what happened after like knowing the purpose to the tapping and the temperature changing and the wind and the spinning to random letters what's going on I know it feels so dramatic too with everything happening all at once it's like it couldn't be clearer yes that there's an intensity in the room yes tell them all

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what it was being so descriptive they were giving so much information before and now it's just cut off so they're still like nowhere closer to any answer but they're like okay well maybe Peggy actually helped Katrine which is kind of a beautiful thing and a change in perception but more reports of hauntings continue to flood in Jane Simon and Hazel feel no clear and are more determined than ever to get to answers so they then turn to their online community and they have people submit questions and they start doing like live stream videos in April 2015 Jane decides to film a session where she asks Peggy questions from people on their website on Facebook she sets up in the basement with an EMF reader she let candles and she has Peggy sitting like kind of in front of her so she's closer like basically how we're sitting but Peggy here mhm and the session's pretty normal they're getting a couple answers but nothing knew and all of a sudden Peggy Falls and knocks over the camera which is weird because no one was

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touching Peggy right but it wasn't until after the session that Jane noticed something she was reviewing the footage in a faster Pace like sped up and she sees that throughout from the very beginning oh [ __ ] that was wow you missed a massive fight with Maggie and Leia like where Maggie charged and attacked Leia okay so where we were Jane was doing the live stream and Peggy knocked over the camera when she's watching it back she's going at like a two times speed to walk watch it faster and she sees that in the sped up version Peggy starts here and ever so slowly moves closer to the camera closer and closer and closer throughout the video until she knocks over the camera I

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want to see the video I let's find it we can link it okay let's search if we find it it'll be in the video if we didn't find it it won't be and if you find it if it's people who are listening if it's not in the video then send it to us we'll add it to part two she posted on their Facebook like the sped up version she's like did anyone else notice this and she wakes up the next morning and it's all over the news it's like a global sensation it has been in Daily Mail like newspapers from all over the world are picking it up and telling the story of this haunted doll so it becomes viral and more people are now have their eyes on Peggy more people are experiencing things and then in October of 2015 Jane Simon and Hazel have a revelation there is not one Spirit possessing Peggy the doll but two Jane and Simon decided that in order to conduct further research into p Peggy they would bring her to a haunted location and conduct a group experiment with her and they basically had been

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working with this company who was like do you want to bring Peggy to something and raise money so they made it a charity event and they decided that they would sell tickets and raise money for Sergeants Children's Center and they decide that they're going to bring Peggy to a haunted location because they thought the spirits inside would maybe the activity and give energy to the doll hey that's that sounds familiar we've heard that before we have on October 23rd 2015 so this is now like a year after owning the doll Jane Simon Hazel and Peggy arrived to Derby jail Derby jail is a super haunted location which we could probably do a whole episode on but that's not this episode both Simon and Jane agreed that from the moment they left their home it felt like another person was with them so like they live with Peggy and they're aware of Peggy being there but they don't really feel like the presence of

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the spirit and they don't feel like they're living with it but for some reason the moment they left their home they were very aware that Peggy was with them like it felt like a third person was with them yeah a third or or four or an actra two people yeah right so if you watch the entirety of their trip they have Peggy in their hotel room they feel like someone else is in their room with them and then they go to the jail and they set Peggy up in a cell with like a bunch of talking boards and paranormal equipment for participants and people who had bought tickets to the event as they're setting it up they ask Peggy if she's with them and suddenly Jane feels someone push her and the room is filled with the scent of roses hm guests then start to come to communicate with Peggy and one woman Leticia had a very intense image shown to her while she was sitting beside Peggy she began to experience an intense burning between her legs jeez

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this is also confusing too because I feel like the scent of roses is such a it's usually attributed with a good spirit or a benign Spirit just someone kind of passing through not someone who's coming with such anger you know like you don't normally get a like super Rosy perfumed Spirit shoving people right but they're also in a jail so this is like what's this is what confuses me about all this like they're in a place with other haunted entities so it's hard to differentiate but anyway this woman latia is sitting beside Peggy and starts to have an intense burning between her legs she had to leave the room and then was scared to go to the bathroom because she was certain that based on how intense that pain was between her legs she would find her legs bleeding if she went to the bathroom oh my God so she goes back into the room with Peggy and again the burning returned so two did a visual and this is trigger warning of sexual assault the visual was of a woman being raped Laticia was heartbroken and she tried to console Peggy and she would receive

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responses of gratitude like thank you for your empathy and your sympathy and then moments later she would get a message like get out and it felt like there were these two forces present yeah the entire evening is filmed with CCTV cameras and in reviewing tapes they saw this image it's in the photos if you want to look at it but it's like of the jail and there's a shadow that almost looks like a man it looks masculine oh also what's behind it what's looking through the bars oh do you see like glowing eyes H do you see that I mean that looks that looks like a Yeti or something I don't know there's Bigfoot it's big Bigfoot watching on because yeah there's like a lizard man type creature looking through the bars with glowing eyes I wonder if that's Lighting in the place I don't know maybe maybe yeah it must have been if they didn't draw attention to that cuz that seems like yeah very obvious but yeah no I

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totally see like where his hair color and his skin color is different than the shirt that he's wearing yeah this shadowy figure yes and they all agreed it felt evil so this is they start to believe that there's a second Spirit attached to Peggy my question is was it always is that why the night of the Seance the pendulum started spinning and going to random letters and there was a warning or did it become connected to the doll at the jail it would make sense that there's two Spirits because Peggy does seem to be helping warn people like if she was helping Katrine P know that her heart was weak that's why she caused a heart attack which is terrifying but like then it drew attention to a problem why then are all these people having like headaches and pains and is that because Peggy experienced that in her life or is it because there's something evil that perhaps is causing that I don't know a couple weeks after this event at the Derby jail Hazel awoke from

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a horrifying dream she hears a voice whisper in her ear just wait and see what I can do she was certain it had to do with Peggy it was a warning something dangerous was coming something bad was going to happen just wait and see what I can do and you all we'll have to wait until next week to find out what happens next in part two are you kidding me I was on the edge of my seat I was literally like you could probably see in the video it's getting closer and closer what oh the hot and cold messages coming from pecky I'm so confused about who is in there how many people what they are y I guess we'll find out more next week though dang part two Peggy the doll and the spirits attached to the doll meet a paranormal investigative

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icon they nearly take a life it debuts on television and gets a new daddy wow that's clickbait if I've ever heard it I'm tuning in next week I can't wait to hear geez I will say the the um flies have calmed down since closing the door so I do think it was very much just the outside thing yeah maybe like 5 minutes after you had flies I kept looking at my windows because a bunch of bees were coming by but it was just for a split second it was like you're so high up maybe 15 yeah I'm 32 floors High that's weird but yeah it was maybe just for 15 seconds I don't know the fly has also come in Pro prominently in part two okay so hopefully we' have no fly next week wow you know what I'm glad that you're doing Peggy because I clearly whatever was around me was like let's not let's not

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research this maybe I would have come across something or or not dealt with it the way that you're dealing with it which is probably the proper way to deal with it but I do I'm glad that you're doing this because I do feel that yeah there is like when I looked at the picture of pecky I didn't feel sick I didn't feel yeah sad I didn't feel angry I didn't feel anything I felt I don't know just like there's this sweet little doll cute cute little doll yeah it is very unassuming and so maybe we do need some new attitudes and New Perspective yeah I have a story to read to you this is called Haunted by The Same Spirit as post Malone hi spooky sisters first of all I wanted to tell you guys that you're both amazing and inspirational AF how you guys can make me go from too scared to move to crying laughing I don't know you have a gift I swear hey thanks well here's my story about how I might have had the same Spirit or other entity that won't be named rhymes with

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women that attached to posty and brought that home with me oh I've always felt like I've been quite sensitive to the Paranormal and others energies yet for some reason I decided it would be a fun idea to go visit Zach bagan's haunted Museum around Halloween time that's what we're doing that's I mean that sounds like a dream yeah my group went prepared with a vial of holy water we'll probably do the same thing and baggies of sage we thought that we would be more protected but then we were told that those things might actually upset whoever or whatever is in the space that we were going to okay maybe we won't do that we have heard that and it's like how do you know what I guess maybe it's that space specifically you just have to follow the rules of whatever space you're entering yeah and also probably like your intuition your gut feeling when you're in the space because on campfire stories when we were talking to one of our listeners also named Sabrina she was talking about her very haunted house and

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her her mom was on too and they were both like we're not going to do anything to cleanse because we know we have the gut feeling that it would be worse if we did anything that right now it's more of a coexistence couple scary things but if you tried sometimes if you try to do something it's not the full thing yeah it gets worse aggravates okay the most significant experience I had there was in p the dolls room Miss Peggy has a Spirit Box in front of her display that is constant static our guide told us that we could ask her anything we wanted to and no one was brave enough to speak to her so I finally asked her hi Peggy how old are you at that moment the static stopped for a few seconds and in a deep voice we heard 10 oh I really wanted to ask her more questions but my friends did not want to keep the conversation going with her so we said our goodbyes and we left it at that then then we went to the diic Box the energy in that room was so heavy and at our own will we were allowed to get close to the

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diic Box you're not supposed to touch it I know that's what post Malone did don't do it my dumbass tried looking inside the box as it was slightly cracked I guess the Box tends to crack open with time and the sage and salt around it pulled in closer to the box and needed to be readjusted at some points so I'm looking in and I got this weird feeling and then I got out of that room since then I have had the most pronounced events I've ever had at an Airbnb in Burbank Shout Out Sabrina I also feel like shout out Karen because I lived in Burbank for you did live in Burbank I've never lived there so I was a resident I was trying to scare my boyfriend by hiding next to the doorway of his room after five long minutes of him not coming out of the room I peaked my head inside and when I did the door was wide open on the other side of the doorway and it swung closed it hit me in the back of my head I honestly couldn't process what happened and I tried

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debunking it for another 5 minutes by putting my weight on where I was standing looking for a draft even jumping up and down by the doorway to make that happen again but it never happened again one of the more recent events was a painting in my room started swinging side to side like something had hit it and swung for a few minutes without losing momentum and then this person inserted a video let me just play it on here for you to see it that's creepy very consistent it's almost like there's a string pulling it back and forth yeah except there's not because we can see that there's not I only noticed the painting after I noticed my dog sitting in staring at the wall behind me for a while other little things occur at random like footsteps upstairs when I'm downstairs and Home Alone noises inside my room at night my dog staring into corners and my GPS rerouting to take me me down small dark streets just to reroute me and take me back where I was before I got rerouted no I still 1,000%

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recommend the haunted Museum me too I won't spoil it but there are some things I did not expect to see there thank you guys for all the work on your podcast hope you can make it to Vegas for a live show sometime we are we're coming in November I hope you're coming too from Miriam Miriam please come it was Miriam and then a ghost Miriam and ghost when was this sent do we have an update I'm this was sent we have no update okay uh this was sent in February February of 2020 okay it's been a long time I'm very curious 02222 that's when it was sent 02222 I feel you added an extra oh 2020 gotcha gotcha I was like did you add an extra couple numbers but no you actually did that right that was me me wrong I can't do math but I can read numbers dang I am concerned for you Miriam I

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hope you protect and cleanse yourself because you can do that maybe bathe in Florida water are we gonna talk to Peggy when we're there because if there's the static going anyone can say anything I would like to I will I'll be brave enough to talk to Peggy I got to dig out all those friendship bracelets and protective bracelets and religious bracelets everyone gave us from the live shows I'm going to wear them and ghost girl oh and go yeah the friendship bracelets too my whole arm is just going to be loaded with different artifacts yeah to protect me dang oh my gosh that will be interesting I'm excited I can't wait and I also cannot wait for part two because there's so much more to Peggy story me too and I'm a little suspicious too that Miriam did encounter something Peggy related with getting hit on the back of her head given that Peggy or whatever was around

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Peggy the jail pushed someone so but I don't know we don't know we'll find out next week honestly Miriam I hope to never know because I hope the spirit just leaves you alone and we don't have to do any more further digging or research but but we will email you and if something else has happened email us back yes and if you've had any paranormal encounter if you've been to Zach Bean's Museum in Vegas or if you have an encounter with geese and goats please email them to us at two girl ghost podcast gmail.com that's a reference to I think it's encounters 198 if you don't know what that is go listen rate interview US on iTunes come join us on tour we still have so many cities actually by the time this comes out we have like a couple more weeks left so come join us on the road we hope to see

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