Unexplained Encounters | Past Lives, Spirit Visits & Messages From Beyond (x141)

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Introduction

very spooky hi howdy welcome welcome this is two girls one ghost two girls one ghost and we are your ghost this is that is corrine and i am sabrina and

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i'm wearing my mother's overalls from back in the day oh sabrina i wish you told me i have my mom's overalls from back in the day we could have been matching we could have been i think it's like i i don't even i think they're like oshkosh bagash or something like that oh my gosh oh wow these are called navy i mean they look great i like the color the wash is awesome people who are watching our youtube will get to actually see and you're wearing is that a wit is that your whitney houston shirt underneath it this is my romeo's pizza shirt okay a little different i like that you now know my wardrobe yeah yeah i know well it's it's actually that's a challenge it's hard to know your wardrobe because you rent a lot of clothes so you always have new clothes but then there are a few things that you wear often so was that a harry styles coffee mug oh of course it is

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gonna see justin bieber recently i was supposed to see justin bieber yesterday in boston but he is not well right now yeah so it is postponed which is totally fine i was just saying about it because i was like he's got other things to think about yeah yeah but we're sending our good vibes to justin bieber good vibes feel better yes good vibes to him good vibes to everybody because all of you guys are are haunted so you need goodness and we're about to tell you about it because this is an encounters episode it sure is i was going to say justin bieber should listen to our podcast and it will make him feel better so i will point that out in the universe as well we totally should we'll dm haley and be like haley i think that you guys as a couple should listen to our podcast together yeah that'll be our new marketing good bonding good bonding yeah good bonding um i

Appalachian mountain story

think i'm first right okay great i don't

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remember but i think that's a great idea all right i'm gonna i've this episode i picked out one that's really long and then i picked out a couple that are like really short so we're gonna get a whole a whole mesh of them but i'm going to start out with one that's pretty short but i still think it's like oh my god okay just a few sentences and already i'm like holy [ __ ] this is so scary okay okay this is from sarah hello girlies my name is sarah and i absolutely love your podcast and listen religiously i work night shift which can be kind of spooky but it makes the night fly by so much quicker anyways i live in the appalachian mountains in the middle of nowhere there's thick layers of trees surrounding my house in almost every direction because i work night shifts i'm always awake on my days off so i was folding clothes with my little dog toby and i hear what sounds like footsteps coming up the ramp to my porch everything gets quiet and then i hear almost a robot

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toned woman's voice say help help help outside of my window there was no emotion no tapping or pecking on the window and at this point my dog is going absolutely insane my parents wake up and ask what's wrong and i explained to them and they just laughed at me so now here i am sitting in my living room at 4 56 a.m sending you this email thank you for keeping me occupied at work and doing an amazing job see you on the other side sarah what what uh this sounds like she wrote skinwalker encounter question mark and or like black-eyed kids or that's any kind of mimic or yeah there's so and in the appalachian mountains there's so much going on so like i mean we've read i think our first episode that we ever did not necessarily about the appalachian mountains but just about like the woods and trails was called hiking buddies it's like number

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nine or something we did it so early and i feel like even stories from there and from all of the like deep reddit threads we've gone through prove that in the appalachian trail there's even spirits that are so incredibly powerful that like it could have just straight up and a ghost doing this as well that's true remember when you wanted to go hike the appalachian trail by yourself and i was a really really strong pull for like months yeah and i want to do it alone the whole thing and i don't camp like a bug lands on me and i scream but for some reason i was really getting pulled to the mountains so glad i didn't go me too i don't know if you'd be with us today i mean i would have had to live stream the whole thing i think yeah to be safe yeah yeah um that is really unsettling i mean wherever you are if you hear that it's unsettling but to be in the middle of the appalachian trail or mountains

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is even worse because it's like i'm picturing that there's no one around for miles and miles and miles so it could be someone who's trying to harm you it could be it something supernatural like right it reminds me of um was it strangers and based on a true story where these the people with the masks they like showed up to a house and just because they were home they killed them yeah the last scene was why why are you doing this and they said because you were home it this does feel like that and it's so creepy because it's like what are the chances that someone's going to be awake at that time i was thinking about it the other day i actually think that like 4am to 6am is some of the scariest time of day and night because 3 a.m paranormally very scary yeah but for human on human interaction i think it's like those are the two hours that where you're least likely to run into someone awake like the bars spill out

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until 2 a.m to 4 00 a.m but then it's like dead for two hours until the 6 a.m commute starts again yeah it's funny because i feel like i like those hours because okay twilight back again it's pretty peaceful yeah if you're in your own home and you're safe yeah or if you're you know yes if you're gonna like i would love to sit on the beach like early early morning like at five a.m in the quiet i've never done this by the way so i don't know if i actually would like it maybe in my mind i would like it but you would sit there and no one's up no one's awake and it's just kind of like you have the world to yourself for a moment i really like that idea there's such a short i mean i guess i'm thinking where i'm based in new england there's such a short window of time where you could actually do that because the sun doesn't yeah rise until like

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basically 6am 5 30. yeah yeah yeah but yeah no i think there there is something peaceful and tranquil about it but i think being in the middle of the woods or yeah that's like walking out on the street by yourself my alarm bells would be ringing around where am i who's around what's going on well i mean oh sarah you gotta give us updates if anything else happens yeah what's ahead wait this was set in november of 2021 so there's been been half a year yeah okay we'll follow up yeah we'll follow up

Adopted ghost child

okay i have a story from our listener danielle and it's called my dad accidentally adopted a ghost child hello ladies happy father's day this is basically like we're a little late at this point

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two weeks later yeah this feels like we should have read this for that we're recording it right after father's day so i guess it's it's still father's day um okay i'll do my best to try and make this make sense i am not the best at telling stories but i lived in a house that was haunted by three different spirits one was the hat man the other was the slender shadow and the other one was a little boy who gave me very mixed vibes the boy was very mischievous and liked to make oh gosh my little sister cry at night because she said he'll never leave me alone so of course my dad would come to our room to calm her down and say out loud to the boy it's time you leave her alone yeah there were mornings when my dad would go to work and my stepmom would say that once he left the boy would appear at the end of her bed and scare her no that went on for years until my dad

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and stepmom split she took the kids and it was just me and my dad in that house after that it was a bad year after the split and of course spirits feed off of negative vibes that you put out and man oh man was there a lot of negativity in that house yikes not only did the two evil spirits get stronger but the boy did too he appeared in a dream of mine in quotes he hit my head while i was trying to nap and he liked to hit things off the counter well my dad was a drunk and liked to talk to the boy saying things a parent would say to a child when they misbehave like leave rosie alone she's not doing anything to you or stop throwing that and behave and this is also frustrating me because this isn't just like a normal child ghost who's kind of like playing or or figuring out what they can do this feels like the annoying kid that you you like had to hang out with that you're like oh my god like do you not have any parenting just [ __ ] stop

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slapping me yeah or like leave me alone yeah i'm getting annoyed for her on her behalf because that really is kind of like a sibling yeah um the creepiest thing about it is that he would listen to my dad when he asked him to stop well when we went our separate ways after a year of living there alone leaving the house behind i thought we left him behind two but i just found out this easter after bringing up the old hauntings we all experienced that the boy followed my dad my dad told me that he still to this day hears child's laughter in the spare bedroom his new wife sees a boy sometimes in the hallway and things like keys glasses and other little things get misplaced and will not appear again until my dad gets frustrated and says that is enough i need my keys or glasses or whatever it is that's missing and then he'll go look around the house and they'll be back where they are supposed to be i asked him how he knew it was the same

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spirit and he said he just feels the same kind of energy from the boy that he felt at the old house i told him that is why you don't talk to spirits and especially not try to parent them lol well that's all for now you are amazing keep doing what you do best danielle wow i mean here we go here's his his opportunity for redemption and to have a little bit more parenting in his life that's kind of nice i mean clearly he appreciated having a parent that acknowledged him and also kind of course corrected some of his behavior because that child did not have to go on with the dad who was saying knock it off but maybe it just reminded this child of like his maybe his life with his other siblings and yeah and or just like he just i mean maybe he passed away young and he missed his parents and he liked having this father figure around i am glad that the little boy didn't

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follow danielle because it sounds like danielle would have been furious yeah well that's an interesting point because

Childhood memories

i feel like so many times when we read stories about little kid spirits being around other little kid living human beings it's often assumed that the connection is with the other children that they just like want to play with the other kids but it's interesting that to think that maybe what the spirit is missing most is their parent their parents that's so sad no i'm gonna cry now i'm sad about this oh it is funny like i feel like i have lived away from my family now for almost like 10 12 years oh my gosh 11 years that's wild and so i don't see my family often but like there are times where i'm like i just want to hug from my mom or like you know i just want that like that feeling and

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so i don't blame you especially when you're swift boy too right yeah whenever you're sick you're like oh i just want to be in my childhood home on the couch watching yes 48 hours and for us brushing my hair or svu yes scratching my back yeah coming and taking my temperature my mom used to give us sleeping bags when we were sick we would literally be in a sleeping bag on the couch it was like camping i think because we were you know you had the chills and you're so cold so we'd have like a sleeping bag and then we'd have like more blankets inside to like try to get as warm as we possibly could but then also part of me thinks that it was her way of ensuring that we didn't like sweat through the couch and make it gross because we had something underneath that i think it was a little bit of a joke i was gonna say i feel like when you're sick you get like hot and cold so if you're in a sleeping bag yeah you might be cold for a minute but then like all of a sudden you're like dripping sweat yeah but then you just unzip and you throw it throw it out release the heat

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release it was a good treat did you ever fake sick did you ever do what they did in et and heat the thermometer in a light bulb no did you yeah of course really did did it fool your parents yeah i feel like okay here's the thing about being sick it never came at a time where you like wanted to be sick i remember like there were multiple times where i had birthday parties that i was super excited about or like sports games and i would get sick and i'd have a fever and i'd be so i would try so hard to pretend i was fine because i wanted to go do those things but then if i had a test that i didn't study for or i don't know i was bullied in school or i just didn't want to like go do those things and i i would prefer to be sick at those moments right i don't have time i know it never aligns quite right yeah oh well that's fun that's fun that you did that

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and got away with it that's like i feel like a classic childhood yeah this feels very like 80s 90s kid movie yeah well e.t i guess yeah we're talking about it right now now as an adult i could just be like well first of all i don't have i mean you're my job so we can we can reschedule whenever we want but and like when i have like both of us get sick so often often food issues we do reschedule oh my gosh well the amount of times we'll text each other and be like um so i just ate something and i think it had cheese or i think it had gluten and um i'm throwing up so i'll keep you updated how i'm feeling in 20 minutes yeah and oftentimes it was like oh i was just about to text you the same thing i don't know what happened but i am down for the count at least we're on think in sync with that as well i know i actually need we'll get back to ghost stories in a second but i owe my doctor

Corrine's fainting experience

a call because i did another allergy

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test and guess what came up which i'm like in denial so i need to call them and be like what does this actually mean eggs everything else was like barely there or maybe a little bit of a reaction and then eggs were just like red it was like egg egg egg egg white egg yolk and then but i eat eggs all the time like i literally make hard boiled eggs like for lunch i'll have like strawberries and hard-boiled egg so i'm like [ __ ] this sucks that's heartbreaking i'm gonna have to be vegan but i'll figure it out i'll get back to you hopefully it was a mistake it's a fluke hopefully all my blood work was wrong it was someone else's it wasn't yours it got mixed up actually wait to diverge one more time yes i have have not told you about remember when i went and got blood work and i was like it actually was really

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tough because i usually faint or i shouldn't say usually yeah i faint every once in a while from anything medical and especially from blood specifically from seeing it i'm talking about it too much from yeah i i won't watch it right now yeah i know that's i just started to get a little losing but so i know what fainting is like and usually i'm out for a couple seconds and everything goes like black and it kind of like twinkles and then i have like a little dream and i come back and i'm just like you know a little teary and and discombobulated a little confused this past time sabrina i actually partially think i died like i think i was like in the astral plane i it was bad did i tell you about this no what happened oh i i was like i was so rocked by the experience that i was bawling my eyes out and brian had to come get me and i was going like sobbing like like i had actually

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like seen a mass murderer in front of me i so i couldn't could sense i was about to paint so i said out loud i'm feeling faint and then it started to go like this and i go i'm going to faint so and that was the last thing i remember i was out and so the woman i presume the nurse had like turned around and started to to care for me my dream was really long and it was really confusing it was this woman she was this i was like sitting down talking to this woman she was like i don't know maybe in her 40s she's black it had natural hair that was kind of like a shoulder-ish length and we were sitting down and talking about something and i couldn't remember what it was but i remember it was like a very serious thing that we're talking about and like decision but it was really it was really disorienting because all around her was like you know when on tv when they try to depict someone on psychedelics and it's like really trippy and there's like yeah paisley and like tie-dye colors and everything's like everything was like that around us but

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we were like focused on each other and talking this is like the other way i need to re-watch the oa actually that's so weird that you said that because i literally googled this morning is season three of the oa really not going to happen and apparently it's not it's not yeah but i was like i was like so focused and then all of a sudden someone i was getting ripped out and thrown back in so it was really difficult for me to actually use your spirit guide from it maybe because i was like i would literally flash back into my body and i'd i would see the nurse that was like putting the ice pack behind my head and like moving the chair down but then i'd get ripped back with her and she was kind of like standing there kind of reaching for me but like kind of watching me fall back and i went back and forth probably like three times and it was so scary like i literally thought i died so i was sobbing but i barely stand but do you feel like the conversation you were having with this woman was

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important like was it about your life it kind of felt like that but i don't i can't remember what we talked about i just remembered that it was very that that what we were talking about was serious and maybe it was life but like it wasn't like a two-way conversation it was about me and she's gotta get your blood drawn again and we're gonna send you back to the astral plane we're gonna do this but it's gonna it's it do it for the sake of the people who are listening to this podcast current no sacrifice you can talk about it for a week i tried to tell my parents like two days after happened i just started bawling as i was telling them because it was real i feel like you had a spiritual experience i i must have cause i've fainted plenty of times and i was out for a while too because i was in that room right brian was waiting for me because i knew i wouldn't be able to drive myself after getting my blood drawn so he was in the waiting room and he was like you were in there for like 30 minutes and everyone else was in there for like five minutes

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10 minutes i was there for a long time out whoa anyway i'm sorry fascinating well this is like a paranormal experience yeah this is an encounter i know i can finally talk about it now that i'm like far enough past and i don't have the marking on my arm anymore from like the bruise of the needle but yeah okay i'm going to think about this more i'm going to do some research i really do think you had like because this reminds me of when i [ __ ] projected and i had a conversation with this woman and i've i told you that if i saw her on the street i would recognize her and it was a full-on conversation about our life my life yeah and she was like guiding me like i think it was a spirit guide of some sort and we had that full conversation before i went through the astral plane and then got sucked back into my body how did you feel when you were getting sucked back in that that part was scary because it was it felt like something else was around that i needed remember it was like

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someone whispered in my ear wake up right yeah that part was scary oh wow what a spiritual experience corrine i'm sorry it sounds scary and unsettling but here you are having these experiences and you are totally fine i mean i wasn't fine i haven't done it since scary but yeah but i've recovered i've grown from it you've grown from it maybe i wonder if we have the same person who was your person um mine was a white lady and she had very like curly like short hair hmm okay hairstyles very similar similar yes very similar yes interesting all right this one i have had in my folder because you and i both have folders that's like corinne's and sabrina's so when we see emails come in we try to like steal them steal them into our own folders it's a game i've i've had this one

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ready to rock for a while oh my gosh

Haunted museum experiences

okay okay this is from let me make sure she she goes by yeah her full name jennifer okay dear corinne sabrina and leia first of all please let me sing your praises newer listener but i'm obsessed with you all and tgog i love everything you're doing it's made my commute to home so much better and i have wanted to write you for a little while because i want to share all of my experiences but after a moment i had last night i finally decided there's no better time than now i've wanted to reach out because i've worked as a museum curator for 10 years and have definitely had things happen to me and i remember you talking about how spooky museums could be in the past episode which we just covered haunted museums yeah i was like this is perfect this is in addition to personal experiences that i've had with all of my loved ones who have passed and this is a long one so i apologize but also i don't so here goes

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good yes i like her yeah don't feel obligated to apologize you never need to no don't be sorry for telling us great stories ever yeah yeah we asked for this so yeah you can say you're welcome yeah sorry and we can say we're sorry for making you type all of this right yes yes okay i had my first experience in the year 2000 when i was 16 and i knew nothing about the paranormal my maternal grandfather passed away and that evening after spending time at their house with my grandmother i went home to get some rest my mom stayed the night with her and my aunts so i was home alone i had a headache from crying and after grabbing some aspirin from my parents bathroom i was walking through the house which is kind of a long ranch style house and i saw his form standing in the kitchen doorway leaning on the right side of the doorframe like he always did when he came to visit he was six foot four so his stature was noticeable his head had

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almost hit the top of the frame and i stood there staring at it having never seen a shadow form or even knowing about them i tried to tell myself that it was totally fine and not human shaped at all and decided that i was going to walk through the door to prove that it was nothing i swung wide to the left so that i would actually walk next to it and not straight through it and as i walked by it i put my right art arm out to pass through the shadow at about waist height this is so brave i would never die no i'm also surprised that like she was able to get that close i know yeah that he was still standing there yeah i looked straight ahead as i was walking but as my arm hit that spot it was literally ice cold and i got chilled up half of my arm i stopped and i looked back but nothing was there for a couple of months after my grandfather's passing my parents house was active with things physically moving around and also when our family went to his viewing at the funeral home a butterfly fluttered to my grandmother

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and landed on her cheek momentarily before floating away on her cheek yes it's so gentle it's so lovely really gentle butterflies have always made their appearances during incredibly hard times and i have no doubt that that was him and more recently my grandmother's too so i have lost all of my grandparents at this point and i've had experiences with all of them several experiences with my maternal grandmother and i heard her say my childhood nickname jenny in my right ear my turntable and microwave both started on their own and a small framed picture that i had kept was turning completely around no matter where i put it i also had a co-worker come up to me one day while she was with me installing a museum exhibit and we started talking about light knocking that i was hearing on a case a foot behind me she couldn't hear it but she felt inclined to come over and

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tell me what she was feeling she asked if i had lost my grandmother recently and if i was german which this grandmother was the only german connection that i have in my lineage i immediately burst into tears and she said that it was my grandmother wanting to get my attention to tell me how proud of me she was and how who i had become okay so cool that her co-worker has this ability i know well and too it's like that they both experience different things at the same time so it's like however you perceive the paranormal and however you're open to it it's still happening around you and so you basically get that confirmation so wow it is wild how people's realities can be so different yeah well that's like in my childhood home i would see and feel a lot at the same time my mom would hear she heard a lot yeah i didn't hear as much i would love to like see what part of your brains are active in

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different ways when those paranormal experiences are happening that actually would be awesome like where does the clear audience and clairvoyant triggers in your brain right i wonder if anyone has done this research before if not let's add it to our list of uh business ideas yeah just gotta go get qualified to take some brain scans real quick brb we'll hire someone to do that part yeah we will watch it all happen we'll hook ourselves up and then have actual people that experience more a can knowingly bring things in an experience yeah and we'll be sort of like the baseline if like sometimes we do sometimes we don't yeah how do we bring the ghosts though we just bring haunted people in well i think our podcast is proof that they're literally always around that's true we've had a lot of interference so my brain my brain went to um

Family hauntings

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we're gonna need someone to be playing a ouija board while we're in the the scans no cause then we can't get out we're trapped i'm not doing that and i've already been trapped in a tight space before so i can't yeah what are you wishing for sabrina you've already experienced the elevator jeez okay in august of 2018 my boyfriend was assaulted in our driveway fracturing his skull and jaw in several spots as i went out the next morning to clean up the traces of his fast food dinner that he had been bringing home and was scattered all over our yard and street i broke down just then two monarch butterflies began floating around me one landing on my chest right over my heart i also recently had a reading with an amazing psychic medium who told me that my spirit animals who told me my spirit animals that she saw were a ferret and an owl which represent courage and wisdom and the motto on the crest of the side of my family is consilio

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animos sorry i butchered that i've never taken latin so that's my excuse which literally means with wisdom and courage and i actually have that tattooed on my left shoulder so i absolutely know that they're with me on the other side of the fam my mom dad and myself simultaneous simultaneously had experiences with the minute my paternal grandmother passed away and we were on three different continents this was in october of 2018 shortly after my boyfriend's assault and he was still healing i was in fallace france at the time with him and his family and i woke up when i thought i heard him walking around our room i rolled over and he was asleep next to me i looked at my phone because i wondered if everyone was getting up for breakfast or something it was only 5 35 am i thought oh my goodness what if that was a ghost i told myself that they had gentle footsteps so if anything

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they seemed nice and respectful maybe like a cute 18th century housekeeper and then i love that that's where jennifer's brain went she's like painting this whole picture it's just oh it's just like the cutest little 18th century housekeeper tiptoeing around getting the things done oh my god that's so adorable you know what sometimes that's what you need to do and yeah you can you know create this like beautiful positive lovely experience i know hey it worked she fell back asleep the next week we got back and i found out that my grandmother had passed while we were gone and my family decided to wait until i was home to tell me here's how the dots were connected she had passed away in a little town of cushing oklahoma at home in her bed my mom uncle and two nurses were with her within seconds of her passing one of the nurses told my mom that her phone which was on the dresser across the room was lighting up my mom walked over

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and her phone was calling me they all saw it i never got the call because i had my phone on airplane mode to save data wait but the nurse's phone was calling jennifer i think the nurse was telling her mom that her mom's phone was lighting oh oh my god but still but like the phone was making the call out to jennifer was not calling the mom yes oh she had it on so she didn't get it but as she hung as she hung up and while she still had her phone in her hand my dad called her from saudi arabia telling her that he had a weird feeling the time in oklahoma was 10 35 p.m and he called her at 10 36. she showed me the is on her phone wild wild wild i know i'm like holding my chest i'm like oh my god the time difference made at 5 35 a.m in

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france when she was hearing the footsteps i heard her around me i also definitely felt her on that day when i went to her house and it was the first time following her passing in several ways physically with a hug that i undoubtedly felt when i walked in and with the air creatures that surrounded her house that day scissor tails by the dozens monarch butterflies by the hundreds and ladybugs by the actual thousands they were all over her house and i've never witnessed anything like that i should also mention beautiful she was a gemini which is an air sign and if ever there were angels my grandma myrtle would be one those creatures being there all made sense to me this is reminding me of moana when the grandma becomes the stingray oh yeah oh this is so beautiful i mean the fact is all of these critters flocked to the house after her passing

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is this like really it's like cinderella like she's just one with nature right like she's truly innately good and all the creatures are like they're in support just like celebrate her her life and her spirit being so special lifted yes wow so those are my familiar familial experiences but i have several experiences at work too i felt really scared in some of the museums and others feel like they are buzzing with spiritual hugs for eight years i worked at the oklahoma territorial museum in guthrie which is oklahoma's territorial capital early on i always felt very uncomfortable in a couple of particular spots in the museum i became the saturday site attendant and i was there by myself all day almost all of my encounters were when i was alone but i know that other people have experienced things too my boss got a picture of the curator at the exhibit opening

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and there was the top half of a translucent man standing next to her oh see this photo i know it's not attached so oh man jennifer if you can find it um you could see his plaid shirt tucked into his belted jeans with faded out just a which faded out just above the knees and he looked exactly like ron swanson but with a mona lisa smile i just whacked my arm are you okay yeah just got excited yeah oh i know i wish i had a copy of the picture but i don't at all there was this one corner of the museum that always felt like somebody was pacing and watching you the exhibit case in the corner downstairs and the one directly above it upstairs would set their alarms off during business hours and in the middle of the night several times a year this went on for years and they had the alarm company out multiple times they are laser barrier alarms that would

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have to actually be in the case to be set off just once the elevator went upstairs on its own and i once heard a couple inaudibly arguing right next to me early morning one day as it should be noted that the walls of the museum are three feet thick concrete because we are in tornado country the next bit's a little weird to explain so bear with me the entry to the museum is two glass doors two feet inside those doors is metal floor to ceiling accordion gate and then four feet after the gate is another set of glass doors all of these were locked individually and one saturday morning at 8am i'm walking up to the building i specifically noticed the mail delivered down the street because i felt bad for being late and not being able there to be there to let him drop the mail so that meant that they had to slip the mail under the first set of glass doors as i walk up to the museum door there is about 10 pieces of mail intertwined in the accordion gate sporadically but

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going from the top to the bottom i stood there for a hot second remembering that i had seen the mailman a block away i got super scared tried the door and found it locked told myself that i had to go inside because that was my job and then i ran in with the music blaring on my phone and set the museum up for the day ew okay so there were glass doors that were locked so the the yeah mama and slid them under the glass door and then something took them in and shoved them in between the barrett like made a little pattern in the barrier that was like four feet away that's i'm sorry that is yeah that is freaky and also if the mailman was like that far like that close that means it happened within a short period of time right so it was like a gust of energy swooshing it all up and i so wonder what would have happened to

Amelia Earhart encounter

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them if the male delivery person had like turned around did it happen as soon as they turned their back and walked like if they just peeked back they see all the mail like swirling up and getting pushed into the grate you know what i'm picturing is from the grinch the live-action one where he's in the mail room and he's taking the mail from people's slot and he goes and he's like throwing it into the wrong ones and like mixing it up and i forget what the lines are but he's like christmas card for them yeah anyway that's one i cannot yeah that's funny i mean maybe maybe that was sort of the vibe just stuff or maybe they were like trying to get it maybe they were trying to be helpful and actually push it all the way into the museum and they were just like kept trying to shove it to the slots and them getting stuck and they're like let me try another piece of mail in another slot and it just keeps now i'm wondering yeah now i'm wondering if like there was a piece of mail that the ghost didn't want to be

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delivered oh interesting and they were like searching through it looking for yeah it's like the college acceptance letter that or like the the wrong i don't know yeah the i mean they're the reporters the museum the report cards coming in the report card i can't let the museum curator know that they've been failing yeah or maybe it was just going to like expose them that maybe maybe it was like a transfer to another museum that was like accepted and they were like no i don't want to leave you can't send me to a different museum this is my house that's a really sweet i like that yeah but then sad at the same time but there is a sad story behind all of this activity that finally clicked with me after the fact in 1993 or 1994 a schizophrenic man broke into the museum when they were closed but the director was there working and this man was convinced that his wife was being held hostage in the basement of the museum oh no he ended up holding the director hostage for several hours and the police

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had a standoff in the entryway with this man in the museum and unfortunately shot this man i had always thought that there might have been specific artifacts or the land itself that was causing these things to happen but it recently dawned on me that maybe it had been him the whole time like his spirit yeah i feel like this is the longest email and i haven't even made it to 2019. at the beginning of the last year i began a management position at 99 museum of women's pilots in oklahoma city i no longer work there but honestly the spooky experiences that i had there are one of the only reasons i was sad about leaving immediately i noticed the energy there absolutely buzzing it's a museum of female pilots who definitely had strong personalities and at least one once a day i would experience the sensation of doing someone sticking their head over the sensation of someone sticking their head over my shoulder as if they were saying what you doing

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but not in a scary way more like in a cute sassy broad kind of way when that thing would happen sound was blocked from my ear like when you put your hand up a few inches away from your ear go ahead and try it and she said parentheses wait two seconds it's like that oh my gosh on saturday again with the saturdays i was up on the ladder painting over the doorway next to the front door and i heard a woman clear his day and with both of my ear holes say i ought to have known better than to navigate that storm it was so clear that i thought it was someone at the door about to walk in so i got down off the ladder getting ready to greet them and nothing i walk over to the window to see if there was a car in the parking lot with visitors nothing it was awesome i had never heard anything like that what i noticed in the voice though was how articulate it was it was super midwestern and middle-toned our voices tend to be deeper over time and this sounded like a woman in her 30s

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or 40s over the next week i tried to figure out who it might be most early pioneers in aviation unfortunately died in crashes but these were usually in air shows that would have taken place during nice weather i've read about so many of the early aviators and there is only one person who's associated with a storm of any kind amelia earhart i was wondering if there they would be able to figure out who it was but that's i mean if it was amelia earhart incredible yeah and then it makes me wonder like how because there's no way amelia maybe maybe amelia earhart's only haunting that museum but in my mind she's like haunting all over the place because she's connections to so many different places right and so the fact that she just like popping in well and also i feel like like jennifer's talking about the energy in this place and how it's just absolutely buzzing

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and i just picture it like being a place that emulate earhart or other spirits of of women who were kind of like pioneers in this in this industry wanted to congregate it's just like oh let me go hang out with my fellow female aviators yeah i love i like like to think that they have a little club a female aviator club that they all hang out they walk around the museum and say oh like you know i didn't i never lived long enough to see a plane like this how what was it like flying that yeah right right they're like oh wow they really upgraded the headgear and goggles i could barely see mine yeah okay so this is our aviation conversation because we know nothing else i'm sure it didn't go like that at all we just literally know nothing

Ghostly interactions

this is the reason i've hesitated to

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email in the past saying that you heard amelia earhart will automatically bring up some questions but there's no doubt in my mind that it was her after eliminating all the other potential pilots the dining crashes that have artifacts in the museum i was sitting at home and decided to revisit a documentary about her that i watched a couple years ago called amelia earhart the lost evidence it's on youtube and it's fascinating check it out i'm not going to get into all of the details but there were some pretty cool historical arguments suggesting that she was blown off course leaving howland island in 1937 crash landing on a small island and being captured as a prisoner of war the japanese navy already had a significant presence there at the time so it's thought that she was captured by the japanese and made a prisoner of war i start watching the documentary and within a few seconds there's a clip of her speaking and the moment she spoke i knew that that was the voice that i heard the articulation it was 1 000 her voice i hear this and i say aloud oh my god

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and the second i say it there are two knocks on the closet door to my right and it popped open and then there were two knocks on my great grandmother's a photograph player that i have in my room to the left and i felt a hand on my shoulder not pushing down but softly squeezing front and back and then a release as if as i felt the hand on my shoulder my dog who was sleeping shot up and just stared at me wide-eyed for a second before relaxing her eyes and laying back down okay so amelia earhart is like your ghost pal she's like yep that's me don't be scared knock knock knock knock knock knock hand on your shoulder hey you were right it was me the moment i felt the release on my shoulder i burst into tears in a way that i never have experienced it was like i saw her i felt her emotions and i felt the greatest heartbreak that i have ever known like being truly doomed i should mention that i've had cancer twice in my life so i've felt doomed before but not like this and i cried for

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the next 24 hours i couldn't stop my face was raw from wiping tears away and i went to work at a museum and continued about my day and then that next night around 10 p.m it just stopped and i was fine i can't explain it i it was the most extreme empathy that i've ever experienced and this is what got me through the next few months before quitting i felt like i was helping share the story of these women and a few weeks later i was up on the same ladder in the same spot that i heard the voice and i thought i saw my intern walk into the office i hopped down to ask him a quick wave quick favor and jogged into the office but no one was there i was right behind him i thought i just saw the top and back of their head but it was short dark due with a collar similar to a hoodie or or maybe a flight jacket one day i was looking up when i reached for the front door to lock it and i heard a woman say come back here not in a spooky way it was more like a lady trying to catch a taxi that was speeding

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away from her was it the same voice honestly i couldn't tell because it was just so quick but the tone was similar but i can't be sure it was interesting because i had my purse on and i was walking around so it could have seemed like i was actually like i was about to actually walk out the front door like i said my time there ended abruptly which is sad but there are definitely spirits there that i was ready to hang out with for the long haul i haven't had anything happen in quite some time until last night when i was laying in bed i was sleeping in a tee and my undies and i got too hot under the covers i kicked one of my legs out and i rolled over to that in between stomach and side position with my booty doo was but my booty but my booty doo was front and center right as i'm dozing back off i feel a single finger poke on the booty i feel a single finger poke me in the exact center of my right butt cheek oh

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without opening my eyes i just shouted nope and i rolled back over covering my head with the two warm covers and eventually falling back asleep i didn't it didn't feel threatening or malicious but more like a feisty grandparent playing a joke if you will i've been telling myself that it was my maternal grandmother grandma dot trying to get my attention i hope you enjoyed my stories stay spooky and see you on the other side jennifer okay jennifer you have had so many experiences so many and all of them for the most part are positive like i don't i'm trying to think of any that were negative that i mean not really the only thing that could potentially be a little scary was like the male in the in the slot i mean i guess i guess any experience with the paranormal is scary because you're not expecting it it's startling but after the fact you don't look back on it as like that was one of the scariest moments of my life like you can look

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back at some fondness or fascination and the spirits didn't seem to like want to harm her yeah yeah exactly like the the booty poke is my favorite because i always you know we had a long discussion way back when like early on about sleeping with your feet out of the covers and being afraid like a demon was just gonna grab them and we're like well what do you do because you need like some part of your body out of the cover so you're like kneecap you know um but in the hot summer months lately i'm like a butt out of the covers and like that's just the part of my body that's out and i if i'm a ghost i would 100 poke the ball yeah it's so tempting there's so much space to poke in the booty yeah it's much better than terrible down booty big old round booty it's like a good landing pad for a little ghostbuster or a little finger a ping pong a finger poke a little finger or a finger finger a pokemon baby give it a ping

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yeah i mean yeah just incredible experiences from her grandparents yeah oh amelia love and support and then amelia earhart cool hell yeah i love how cool this is the best thing about you and i crin i'm gonna float our boats for a second we just believe everything true i mean no one's given me good enough reason to not believe i know i'm i'm just like there's no question in my mind like i don't doubt it one bit i'm like yeah no jennifer it was amelia earhart and she's and now i believe full-heartedly that amelia earhart and you are bonded forever and if you ever need her she will come put her hand on your shoulder yeah it's just really fascinating too it makes me wonder if maybe she is spending time like in museums and with different artifacts and with people who who

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have a connection or or like historians for her if she's sticking around until the mystery of her disappearance is fully solved and she's like trying to give bits and pieces here and there to people like the storm hey amelia amelia maybe jennifer is going to solve amelia's mystery this is her purpose in life yeah you got to write her autobiography for her like be the be the subscribe automatic writing be yes be the music have her channel through her channel through you yes yeah yes so amazing okay so a couple of weeks ago i read an email from a listener about a 23andme or ancestry thing and we have another one

Ancestry DNA scandal

really oh okay not an update a new one a new one another one wow and i'm okay i'm just i'm i don't know maybe because i

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have a lot of my own family drama i just love family drama well it's all it's like one of those things where it's like why are there family secrets today because there's so many things that can expose that people just need to i know start getting getting it out so betsy wrote to us about um a family scandal that came out okay it's called ancestry.com strikes again dna family scandal for your encounters episode okay hi ladies i'm currently listening to your encounters 139 episode where you tell the story of one of your listeners family scandals involving dna testing on 23 and me welp your call for similar stories has been heard loud and clear buckle up yes several years ago my mom who was obsessed with family lineage and all things dna got the entire family me my dad two brothers and my uncle to spit in a tube to be shipped off to ancestry.com

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fast forward several months maybe even a year and i'm over at my parents house when my mom casually tells me that ancestry.com is telling her she has a sister according to this website this woman i'm going to call her sally had a high enough dna match to my mom that she was either her aunt niece or half-sister all those family members would theoretically seem to share share the same amount of dna with you we tried to do some digging but couldn't really find any connection to this alleged sister and on top of the lack of evidence sally was well into her 70s and 80s or 80s and wasn't really reachable via the internet so we started to move on but within a matter of days i got an email from ancestry notifying me that i got a message to my account i go to see what it is and lo and behold i have a completely different lady let's call her dina claiming to be my aunt aka my mom's half

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sister i asked her if she knew sally and she goes oh yeah sally is my aunt so after a long stint of back and forth and getting dina connected with my mom we all realized that my grandma had an affair with dina's dad well after my mom was born dina and my mom are about 10 years apart so that means that dina and my mom share a dad and my mom learned the man who raised her was not actually her biological father wow unrelated but also very much related i'm very confused okay so because if the mom had these does that mean that they're they're full siblings no wait they don't they don't share a dad they share a mom right the mom had the affair the grandma had an affair with dina's

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dad which is but then it says that means dina and my mom share a dad and the man that raised her was not actually her biological father so that would mean that dean is her full sister i'm very convinced why is this hard okay i think yes okay so dina so okay betsy's mom betsy's mom's mom had an affair okay with dina's dad so okay betsy's mom's mom had an affair with this man and had both dina and betsy's mom meaning that dina and betsy's mom are full sisters oh okay here's why i'm confused is if their full sisters

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did did betsy was she raised fully or was betsy's mom raised fully by her dad and not her mom because you're them it's so much easier for a man to meet many people and and but you can't be pregnant and have a child and hide the fact that you have a child unless like the parents separated and so betsy's mom's mom was gone for a couple years but then what happens to the okay we we need more answers we need more questions we need way more information i just said we need more questions i need more answers my brain has too many questions we have more questions that we need answers okay so i think it is that yes so dina's dina and then betsy's mom are full sisters is what i'm interpreting this as

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okay yeah we just don't understand how that happened how they're raised unaware of each other we have questions yeah yes

Generational secrets

unrelated but also very much related before we found out any of this it has always been a running joke but was also very much believed that my mom's oldest brother she has two brothers was a half sibling because my grandma refused to marry my grandpa for a long time so the theory is that she got pregnant by a sailor passing through and finally gave in to marry my grandpa so that she wouldn't have a baby out of wedlock if this is true my mom and both of her brothers all have different dads so betsy's mom's mom so betsy's grandma was a having some fun yeah sleeping around yeah and a secret i have i have a relative who has a similar similar upbringing but was aware that all of the siblings had different uh

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fathers but just didn't they weren't always sure like who who their dad was or who was what and so 23 we solved it for them wow ugh for that that but at least they they went in knowing what they were looking for like this is truly like this is just a surprise yeah okay circling back to the new scandal unleashed on our family we learned all this shortly before the holidays my mom's family is who we see around christmas so we all thought it was going to be a more drama-filled evening than usual but when it finally finally came time for her to spill her guts nobody seemed all that surprised or interested i guess with my grandma's past and the ongoing family rumor about my uncle's parentage it was not as hot of gossip gossip as we figured it would be lol after asking my mom if she was okay when she found out that her dad wasn't really her dad she said at first i was shocked but that quickly faded because he's the man who raised me so he'll always be my dad yeah thanks for taking the time to give

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this a read i'm a relatively new listener but i love the pod you always keep me interested and entertained and inspired me to launch my own paranormal podcast dfwg podcast keep up with the good work stay spooky and remember to be wary of sending in your dna you never know what family secrets will come back with the results betsy wow i mean that is yeah i guess like just figuring out that's one of the things i didn't think think about when when something when you get matched with a relative yeah there's still a lot of investigation to happen because it doesn't just say like you have a sister it's like you could this person could be also your aunt or your sister or like you have to figure out how things happened and the lineage but i guess the good thing for them is that there were already some people paired up who had figured a lot out and so they got answers really quick yeah i think the worst thing that could happen i mean it's it's awful

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to find out like a relative you thought was someone in your life is actually not who they say they were whatever like that that's a really tough pill to swallow i think but i think the worst thing would be to find out that like a family member of yours is a serial killer oh i was gonna say switched at birth oh that's like like an accidental hospital switch where like your family truly has no idea that you're not oh my god and there's another family out there that also has that same mystery there's a movie that came out this past year called parallel mothers and it's very much that story and it's very sad because one of the babies dies like very very young oh oh that is really sad yeah all right well but i think to your point it would be awful to find out if you had a relative that was a serial killer if you knew the relative like if it i feel like if it came out that was like your your dna

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i don't know i feel like if i like knew i was distantly distantly related to a serial killer i'd be like that's pretty [ __ ] up but also oh i thought you were gonna say [ __ ] cool but also right like i mean it's really disturbing no one wants for anyone to be a mass murderer or kill anybody but it's also like it's one of those things where it's like i mean it's like that what is it like the six degrees of kevin bacon or five degrees i can't i can never remember what it is like a lot of people probably are distantly related in some way to a murderer so i'm not saying my dad's murderer like i know he's not a serial killer but but my dad is amazing all right everyone this is the last episode we ever get to do exposing way too many family secrets wait why what were you gonna say okay no i was gonna say my dad is just a man of mystery he's lived all over the world

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um he's had multiple wives that he didn't necessarily tell us all about he has other kids i there is at least you know about the kids i know about those two i don't know if there's any others out there yeah true and he's also he he's also just not the most forthcoming about his life so um i do sometimes wonder if he were to put his dna into a 23andme what would um populate how many people you might have a lot of siblings this would actually be pretty cool to figure out i would just feel bad for all of those siblings you would know because you've done 23 or me but they're probably young younger and you also have to i think you have to toggle on that other people can reach out to you that you can

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be like matched with potential relatives right because i don't think i toggled that on for myself because i was at the place where i was like i don't want the responsibility of like explaining things to long-distance cousins and whatnot but now i'm kind of like maybe a new hobby interesting right yeah figure it out yeah wow all right well we have a lot more questions uh yeah we need to know everything tell us more tell us the drama tell us the dramas okay

Haunted farmhouse stories

this is called these scary-ass kids see everything hey ladies let me start out by saying i love your podcast i work night shift at an optical lab and your creepy stories and silly banter get me through my long shifts this might be kinda long so let me jump to my stories it's not long let me preface that i'm saying that in the 70s my mom lived in an old farmhouse in the middle of nowhere in quebec in a town called saint pierre to wakefield

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my sister was about three or four when she approached my mom and in french said mama who is that man my mom has always been a believer so immediately she calls to the landlord what is the landlord's response oh that's not a man that's my mother-in-law watch out she's a [ __ ] this is when any normal person would get the [ __ ] out of there but no my mom stayed the next day the woman man to be my sister had a dog with her so with another phone call my mom was told that the dog had been killed by a farmer when he was caught on his property just a few of the experiences that they've had are listed below the spirit asked my sister to go into a door hinge with her my mom said immediately never go anywhere with a spirit yeah this feels very coraline doesn't it yeah my response every time that i've heard the story was what in the world resides in a door hinge

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they used this woman's previous room as a guest room and the people who slept there always complained of creepy dark feelings during a jam session one of their guests decided that she was ready for bed before her husband and then she felt so uneasy laying in the bedroom that she decided to stay up as she approached the stairs she said something pushed her she fell down an entire flight of stairs and thankfully she walked away with only scrapes and some bruising but i can only guess that she was scarred for life after this experience mom decided to use this room for storage about a year later she was sitting on the toilet and she said she was thinking not out loud only thinking of making this bedroom a guest room again as she was thinking this her boxes that she had stacked up all fell over all of them all of them not enough to make you want to relocate yet well one night my mom had blown out her last candle and was out of matches because yep this house wasn't creepy enough in the light but it didn't have electricity anyway she blew the candle out yelled

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for the dog the living one and waited he always followed her upstairs but not tonight she goes on a hunt for him and where is he he's hiding under the table trembling she runs with him to the bedroom where my sister was sleeping and just starts thinking that she wished her boyfriend my sister's dad would come home and she said that she closed her eyes and repeated come home dennis oh sorry it's pronounced denis come home denis come home denis he was at a local bar when he got the feeling that he needed to come home asap stop when he got home they shared their stories and finally decided that it was time for them to move on the last day in the home my sister stood by a mirror that had been hanging in the same spot that they moved in my mom to her boyfriend said don't forget that mirror your dad bought us the mirror crashes to the ground my sister walked away without a scratch she was now 42 and remembers nothing but on to my last story just a little backstory my parents my parents split when i was three and my

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dad moved back in with his mother and three of his brothers so i was raised in this home part-time and came to be very close with all of them unfortunately they were all alcoholics and three of them passed when i was 12. starting with my dad and all within seven months of each other oh my god the remaining brother had been sent to prison and lived there until i was 19 and a brand new mommy to a boy who my uncle called little larry after him of course he would talk to me he would walk me out to the car when i was pregnant and place one hand on my back and one on my belly telling me to move slow because i had special cargo in there and he'd plan to take on the grandpa roll because that's what my dad would want him to do unfortunately four months later after i had my son whom i did not name little larry my uncle was diagnosed with liver cancer and he was gone in two weeks i grant buried four of her children enough of the sadness now onto the good stuff when my son was 10 months old we were walking

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home alone and out of nowhere he began repeating the man the man while shaking his head no i helped him and he cringed and continued shaking his head and squeezing his eyes shut i immediately called my mom knowing that she had experience and i asked her what to do tell it to leave your son the f alone so i did just that and silence my son stopped he stayed in my lap but he was no longer cringing no longer screaming fast forward a few days later and we're leaving our apartment and what does my son say mommy the man's coming this went for a little over a year it was always open the door for the man here comes the man and he would play in his room for hours with the man he was no longer scared so i left it alone fast forward a few years we hadn't heard about the man since he was about three and he was now five when one day flipping through old photos with my gran he stopped on a page and said mom do you remember the man that's the man mom

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oh my god i had to look for my gran to tell me who it was it was my uncle in his late teens and early 20s and my heart melted knowing that my son got more time with my uncle than we thought these are my stories one who said he was gonna be the grandfather and like he was

Past life memories

gonna play that role oh gosh yes see you on the other side alicia wow alicia i'm so sorry for your losses it sounds so tragic and i can't imagine losing all those people in such a short amount of time that's really tough but i love that even though your son was scared of the man because i mean that's unsettling and i wonder what the man was saying what your uncle was saying to him but the fact that he was able to put it together that's like the best kind of story the he yeah the the fact that he remembered too like it was it was enough time spent and enough of like an impression and imprint made on him that he could remember from

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three years old what this guy looked like two years later there's a lot going on in a kid's life and for him to be able to remember be like oh that's him remember him i haven't seen him in a long time but i remember the man and that's the man that's him that's the man wow truly amazing and then that first place that her mom lived in oh my god i know so spooky the being pushed down the stairs and like being okay but that's so physical that mirror coming crashing down like this is a really malicious angry spirit and also trying to go into the door hinge it's like it was that like a portal is that how they're gonna like steal the souls of the children in this home oh i don't like that i know it's very creepy to think about yeah oh oh and the poor dog so scared i know i'm glad they finally left and that i know her mom and denise were like on the same wavelength

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being able to connect to one another and be like oh something is wrong right that's so cool it does make me wonder if that was a result of being in the home if there was some sort of like paranormal portal vortex thing that kind of like what amped up what am i trying to say like i'm i'm losing the word for this but basically like elevating people's abilities or is her mom just always that open and able to connect with people or just like the idea of being with a partner if you're like that in love and intimate together you can you just have this connection with one another mentally yeah you just know it's kind of like parents like the parents intuition the mother's intuition where you just like you just know things you just know whoa okay this is this kind of ends up turning into like a um a story time with photos

Spirit communication

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but it begins with a story it is from our listener raquel and it is called incubus past lives and meeting with the devil hello my spooky ladies my name is raquel from the good old land canada and i have a very interesting life before we get started i've been listening to your podcast for about three years now and it gets me through the boring train rides post mizrona and days at school even if you two scare the hell out of me as i'm writing i'm sitting bored out of my mind in my animation class while listening to encounters 86 now a little background about me my family mostly my dad's side is very open to the paranormal causing some sides of the family to get a little topsy-turvy my dad and his sisters used to live in a haunted house one of my aunts would play with a shadow man in the corner and the dead doctor upstairs would wave to them

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my grandma could have possibly been abducted by little grays and my deceased older cousin still likes to be in his younger sibling's life time to time but those are not what we're talking about today what a thing has been pushing itself in my mind and i just need to get this out okay okay this story is called ink you [ __ ] we're gonna get real deep and personal so this all started on november 24th 2019 i remember because i posted it on reddit i'm 15 at the time of the story ever since i first moved into the house i live in still to this day i always knew about some kind of presence in my room it's always cold in my room and even creepier in my closet is the opening to the attic six-year-old little me knew something was cess

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like most people my age i was depressed about my relationship status and have the self-confidence of a flea i never really liked how i looked i was really insecure because i looked a little thicker than most girls my age this night i fell asleep at 11 30. my mom works late and i hate sleeping home alone and i kept waking up from flashing nightmares they were like one of those layered dreams the nightmare stopped or so i thought and i shifted over to my side i have this huge stuffed dog so i hugged him and i was lying on my stomach a bit but then i started to get this really weird feeling and i remember looking at my dark ceiling and feeling like i was wide awake and i had never had sex in my life so it was really weirded out but after a few seconds i knew what it was at that time i felt pounding as my pelvic started to rise it was like someone was grabbing me and i couldn't move oh no i tried to scream but i couldn't

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then something happened i don't know how but i broke out of this barrier i've moved my elbow and moved onto my back it felt like there was a barrier of energy surrounding me like i forced it to release me and then everything stopped i looked around my dark room and hid under the covers i know demon repellent 101. i stayed like that for a bit and then i screamed to my mom and she had me sleep in her room with her i remember how shaky i was that night i was beyond terrified and i slept with my mom for almost a month until my room got staged by a friend who was a reiki master now here's why i'm pretty sure i manifested it well for almost a year before i became fascinated with spirits i even made a story based off of them i'm a writer the incubus was a trope in the anime community so i fell in the bandwagon every lunch period i would read articles about them i would watch youtube videos about them etc but thank god i actually learned about them or i wouldn't have been so informed about them

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but maybe that's a double-edged sword this incubitch crept its way inside my brain using my curiosity to its advantage it waited and stayed with me until i was insecure enough to attack i previously learned that they attack when you're the most delicate i also learned that they ask for consent in your dreams so maybe i gave it to it unknowingly but i'm happy to say a year later i'm more comfortable with my body and myself in quarantine i was able to self-reflect more the saying to myself you know love yourself before loving someone else is really true i'm not in a relationship but i've become good friends with someone i've been crushing on so i'm doing so much better without that leech of an incubitch in my life at times i kind of miss it but i know it's for the best i try not to think about it and i want to and i wish i could say that was the only thing that happened to me but nope i see shadow figures around my house and i even caught a big one on a polaroid when i was playing with playing in my room

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i used to be super freaked out by them but now i just openly tell them to [ __ ] off short story but i was singing in my echoey stairwell and a dark sunken face flew around me i acknowledged it but told it to [ __ ] off and continued to sing for another half an hour a few nights ago while vibing out to some music in my living room i then saw a dark blob humanoid thing pop from the kitchen to look at me and then pop out of sight in an instant i told myself to keep vibing and then continue rocking out i thought it it's like whatever just everything that happens whatever whatever um next shall i talk about my psychic mom my mom's the type of person that thinks learning about your past lives are creepy but for me it's the complete opposite thanks dad for letting me watch chucky when i was seven so this started before i was born and my mom was with her old dressmaker the dressmaker suddenly asked my mom to read her tea leaves

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my mom asked the lady why but the lady was like i just feel like it's part of your energy so when my mom read it everything seemed to be true it turns out my mom can read tea leaves and coffee grounds and i've seen her do this a few times it's really interesting i keep asking her to do it more often but she doesn't that is so cool that her dressmaker was

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like i can tell based on your energy you can read these tea leaves yeah and also how how like is it i want to know what the process is of reading tea leaves like do you genuinely have to learn what the messages are or does it just come to you and it just travels through you and you have literally no idea what you're doing it just like comes out of your your being you just know interesting because if you're chosen because it's kind of like tomorrow right like yeah you can you can learn tarot and like what competitions mean

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but you don't always there's other people that are much more like in tune and can also feel based on like this you and the spirits around you kind of like yeah i don't know tara was just aiding them in their reading of you right whereas tea leaves it feels like the spirit has to come through you yeah interesting okay raquel says past life regression i did the same past life hypnosis online as you guys or as you did corinne and i got some results i even drew some pictures based on what i saw i'm not the best artist but i'll link them below for a 16 year old kid i have an old soul it was august 6 2020 it was night time i was home alone and decided to try a session online because you guys inspired me i popped in my headphones got in a comfy position and started listening at one point the right side of my body started shaking and burning i had to open my

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eyes and shake it off because it hurt so much fun fact i've always had problems with my right side i have a brain injury and the surgery affected my coordination so i switched over to my left side after and had to relearn everything i have cerebral cavernous malformation ccm i was born with it i still don't feel connected to my right side like i do to my left it's like all the light bulbs are there are just constantly flickering and a fun fact i had a hard time i have a habit of constantly daydreaming like i can't turn it off but eventually i was able to relax and sink deep down and this is what i saw so the first scene was all in third person i was this little boy 10 years or so 10 years old or so i forgot what my hair color was i first saw blonde shoulder length but then later saw brown but i remember the clothes it was a dark colored vest like blue some kind of dark trousers a white collar with puff sleeves and a pink flat bow around my

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neck i was also wearing boots that were dark too i was kneeling down by some flowers in an enclosed garden hello lay i remember the iron gate it then pans up to what looked like stone brick towers on a huge hill covered in flowers and plants and this is the photo this is where it becomes a photo session oh okay the second scene was in first person but i couldn't feel the ground beneath my feet it was like i was floating i ran past a couple a woman in a whitish gold dress and had a matching fan she had the brightest red lipstick on and an obviously fake mole beside the lips and big platinum blonde hair i remember her shocked expression when looking down at me behind her holding her waist was a man in a white long wig who also had a mole but i'm pretty sure that one was real i forget his suit but i want to say that

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it was in the color scheme of red blue and white but then i checked it out and it's the french revolutionary army uniform it's the one with the two crosses in the media interesting note i'm related to an aircraft aeros aristocratic whoa words to an aristocratic military family from the french revolution so could i have been an old family member from back in the day and she said that's so good photo oh my gosh wow it's also interesting to think this is what the couple looked like so fascinating like the fact that they looked down like the couple the woman looked down and was shocked to see that makes me think that they weren't supposed to be there yeah like maybe is like running through her past lives actively right oh interesting or maybe that one because that one she said was in first person whereas the

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first one was in third person right okay so the third images or scene that raquel saw was i ran down a dark hallway of tall rose bushes and at the end of the roses was a blinding white light did you drew this come on do you want to play he's like let me see come here oh my gosh wow girl okay fourth i was older like a teenager like 17 or 18 and i proposed to a girl i remember she had long hair a small gold band around her head and a pink flowy dress and the proposal was in a courtyard oh so she's seeing like all these phases maybe it's all from one life oh that yeah okay because then this the okay then this one's labeled another life

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after that i started getting the locations of england and malaysia malaysia i remember walking through the street it was a war-torn village but all of the buildings were destroyed and rubble was all over the floor and then in another scene i remember working at a bakery i was on a stand outside and a lot of people liked it that's cool i still remember how it looked once again a little i was a little boy but i was like 12 or something with light short brown hair i was wearing a vest with a striped collar trousers knee-high socks and some shoes i was also wearing a leather messenger bag type of thing i had a quick realization when i was 13 i went through a bit of an identity crisis and was feeling a bit dysphoric for a while although it was just because i was insecure about myself and i thought life would be better but it makes me think maybe since i was a boy in my two past lives and all of a sudden now i'm a girl my energy was adjusting to my gender this is another this is the picture

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i love the visual aid the way i wish i could draw like this this is incredible and also what a good record too

Dream experiences

for her to have candy and be like oh yeah now i can i can look back on the experiences and dreams that i had and remember what i looked like and what i was experiencing i'm also curious because this is really cool like it has notes about what she was seeing on the page with the drawings so i'm curious if oh raquel did you do these while you're going through the regression or do you do after okay so then this is i think the last story so this was a random dream but i woke up with the thought of the devil speaking to me the background was much more dim and there was fire everywhere i was right in front of it in a conference sort of style i don't know how i'd imagine this i had never had a job before i have no idea what they said but i drew this

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scene later in art class and yeah my teacher will never look at me the same oh my god a conference with the devil oh i also recently heard my soul mate from my desired reality when listening to an audio really cool but made me super uncomfy wait i need to know what does that mean i don't know like alternate timelines where you are trying to like jump to the timeline that has what you're looking for your ultimate soulmate oh then you can communicate with them i know we we need to look this up okay we don't know what that is since writing this email i've been putting it off for a week i've recently got a scary experience happen to me a few nights ago i saw something trying to shift realities whoa okay so maybe you're right it was it's like shifting realities i've never heard of this okay i use the heartbeat method i need to know more

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putting on heartbeat asmr on youtube under my pillow and then imagining you're laying on someone's chest and i fell asleep with thoughts of sleeping on my vest anime boys chest a good thought right while i woke up with a panic attack i checked my phone under my pillow it was still there and it was 3 36 am the witching hour just added to my panic attack and i tried to get up from my bed to crawl into my mom's bed but i collapsed on the floor i guess the falling of my bones in this large meat suit woke up my mom because she ran to my room my legs just instantly felt like noodles they felt heavy my mom picked me up and after a few more minutes of me falling i was in my mom's bed i didn't hear it but apparently i was babbling nonsense i remember falling into two short second long dreams before feeling nauseous what if this is like you what you experienced when you're getting your blood drawn falling into them oh okay fell asleep but the next day i felt really on edge when i was telling my

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friend about these stories in art class immediately after listening to your podcast the audio started getting all groggy and messed up i find that since i started this email i've been getting messed with more and more and i've been getting in increase in nightmares oh no and that just it just ends i hope you

Sleep paralysis

enjoyed my stories um thank you for reading this astronomically long email and being my best ghoul friend when i'm feeling lonely um and then she has her instagram r i k u dot art 15 on instagram if you want to see more of my art see you on the other side raquel um okay what the hell yeah i guess i mean i guess there are no answers right it's like we're hearing what she's experiencing and she doesn't understand and we don't understand exactly what it all adds up to mean right what the heck it is really interesting like i do i am going back to the past life regression i am wondering

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what the answer is to your question before like was she experiencing different lives or different periods of the same timeline yeah i mean it does seem like because the way raquel separated the stories it felt like the first four scenes were from the same life like all the way through the proposal but i'm i don't know i don't know there's something about past lives where i'm like i kind of want to know especially since she was talking about her hip or her right side of her body in this life like i'm curious if something happened to her in a past life especially that's transcended like what if she was in the war because she did the woman and the soldier like what if that was she was seeing herself yeah oh i don't know because maybe there was like an injury sustained during the war and that's why there was so much attention to that one particular life because there was the trump the trauma and the pain was supposed to be explained or like there was an attempt to happen specifically to to what has rolled over to her current

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life uh what i've decided is raquel you were like so in tune with the other side and have like the way her mom can read tea leaves i think ricky can travel between timelines right because she's getting so much out of this yeah like there's so much being shown and even just when she was having the dreams which was like slipping quickly having these like two minute dreams she she can get there like she's in the astral plane she's doing something she now she just needs to conquer the control of it and being able to give direction to like what she wants to see and where she wants to go i'm here for this journey yeah me too well i want to actually hold your hand as you continue on it yes this is uh i need to find the piece of paper but i you know what never mind i'm not going to talk about it well here there's i'll

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look into more i'll look into it more but i do know someone who was telling me about how they you know in the movie soul where basically like there's the people in the current world that are they're they're like actual projecting

Soul fragmentation

and helping other souls who are kind of like lost work through their trauma or their past and move on uh-huh i know someone who does this and she only told me on like what was kind of sort of the last time i would see her ish in like a long time i'm trying to like not expose who she is but like okay enough description to be like it's not someone who you know i see often or talk too often but that i know and so she wrote down some things for me and i need to find the piece of paper because i was like i really need to research this and i need to get back to her and i need her to teach me how to do this but she's also done like insane

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energy and shadow work and has worked on this for like years and years and she's so much more powerful but yeah she's like at this point where she can basically like she helps people's souls and it's really interesting because she was saying how she she will help like people who are who are alive and living because fragments of people's souls from trauma chip off how have i never heard this i think because i haven't i i didn't really do i know who this person is no you do not oh okay but she was saying how she like works with therapists and and people in the like mental health to help go into the actual plane and find pieces that have like of people's souls that have like chipped off from trauma and find them and like heal them and help them come back and like rejoin their main soul and then that helps helps the living person basically work through their trauma it's

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incredible that is there's a name for it though which is why i'm like where's the piece of paper okay i we should do a whole episode about this yeah yeah okay i'll i'll text her and be like it can she come here she wrote over our podcast right i know we should have her on we should ask her all yeah wait that is so fascinating yeah but this kind of reminding me like i feel like raquel can go like this is the direction that she's headed in yeah this is yeah she'd be fully capable of doing this yes 100 that is so fascinating so fascinating there's a movie in that there is yeah i'm gonna write i'm gonna write it oh wait i thought you were saying that there was already a movie no no like this is this should be a movie it's gonna be a horror movie and i'm gonna write it all right well i'll write it with you i'll be your co i'll consult with you all right i love it

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we'll and we'll have our the actual person who knows all this yes give us the consultants yeah um okay i have one called ghost experience while listening to your podcast hi ladies my name is biannie and i live in el paso texas so my ghost experience actually happened while i was listening to your podcast so i go to university of texas in ep utep and while at the student union when i was waiting for a class to start i was listening to your podcast and ended up falling asleep after what i assume was a few minutes i experienced sleep paralysis however this time was quite a bit different on a side note i fell asleep on a carpeted area of the building where people do actually go to hang out between classes catch up on sleep or homework or whatever i had actually felt like i'm just imagining her asleep in the middle of like a room and people are like yeah um

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she's like at like the little like cafe like coffee shop and she just knocked out actually i don't know who can fall asleep like that there are some people that are just like

Sleep paralysis story

fully i feel like i have when you're done on like a plane or in the car it hurts yeah all the way back like that that's yeah that's a skill i slumped forward yeah okay um so in the sleep paralysis i had actually felt like i was being dragged by my leg on or around to the carpet i could feel the carpet like scraping on my face and it's hugging on my leg and this continued on and off for maybe three to six minutes so after the dragging sensation stopped still unable to really move i was able to look around and i saw that there was this ghost girl around to the corner just looking at me she was dressed in a plain white dress that seemed to have been stained with dirt all of this happened while listening to your podcast

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your podcast was still playing as i was looking at the ghost girl i kind of like tuned in and started listening to what you guys were saying as my mind didn't seem to have been listening before and coincidentally you guys were talking about this little ghost girl in her story you seem to describe a ghost girl and i remember there being mention of an old wood house and i can't remember in detail though because dreams get kind of foggy and after this experience i actually woke back up i rewound the podcast to where i left off and where i drifted off and strangely enough there was no mention of a ghost girl or child ghost in that particular episode nor was their mention of the house described i don't know if my mind made up something while i was in sleep paralysis but what i do know is that it distinctly sounded like your guys's voice it really spooked me it actually happened during an earlier episode it was episode eight hiking buddies what do you guys think i love y'all's podcast it's actually the only one i've listened to consistently from bienni

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bianni i wonder if this like deja vu of some weird kind or like this made me think that our podcast because it's what we've learned is clearly it's able to be manipulated very easily by spirits yeah i was thinking that maybe this little ghost girl is on the campus and this was like her way of being able to tell her story was in the sleep paralysis and using our voices using our voices to like stitch it together into her story so that biennia would actually hear it and listen to it and like receive it we were the we were the conduit we were the we were the kind and we didn't even know it yeah isn't that cool it is it's also frightening and the like weird being dragged feeling i don't love for being annie yeah that's true and i'm curious if that's uh but i do wonder if that's like the little ghost girl trying to like share her story in a

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different way like she first tried to be like i was dragged right or like in a way and then it wasn't fully getting through to be annie and it was like well now i'm gonna tell you my story through the podcast oh oh that's interesting it was just like yeah like the little girl was just going through the different ways to get her story out oh my god but you're acting too but also like i guess i'm thinking a couple things like maybe it was a little girl too i don't know how aggressively it would she be and he felt like she was being pulled but part of me thought of like a little kid like giving like a little tug like trying to wake you up oh that's basically hello beauty yeah but then the other part of me is remembering our friend nikita's story of when she thought she was just having a dream and was like literally dragged and woke up with again all down her body okay um

Demon attachment story

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i should have planned this better but the um we're not gonna end on a happy note oh great okay this is from our listener john and it is called the demon that ruined my life that lived in an old well okay hello ghost girls my name is john little oh my name is little john wayne ella yes my name's john wayne like the duke on the old westerns and sorry for the story being so long i started listening to you guys about a year ago and you're amazing and very beautiful but i have a story for you girls i was around 14 years old and my dad just bought an old store that was built on old land the building was over 100 years old and now it's 120 some years old well he was looking around and we found what we thought was an old well it had rocks that was in the ground and it was in a circle and my father and i

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were thinking it's a real well or maybe it's just rocks that are stuck in the ground so my dad said hey let's see if a real one and he grabs a long metal rod and went to stab the ground and i said no dad stop i want to do it which was a bad idea so i grabbed the metal rod and stabbed the ground and as soon as i did water bugs started coming out of the ground like hundreds of them oh this is exactly what i pictured you know the movie the mummy and how like the scarabs come out of the ground that is the way it was so i jumped back and all of a sudden felt really really weird see i come from a family that hated drugs and alcohol and i said i would never do it and i mean never and i shook it off me and went into the house and thought nothing of it well a week went by and i wanted to smoke and drink and wanted to just go and do bad things and i did years went by and i became an addict for over about 20 years so i look back and i thought about the

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well and i think now that the demon or spirit or whatever it was attached itself to me and wouldn't let go so i went to a green witch in another county that my aunt had told me about and as soon as i go into her shop she looks at me and says you have something something bad attached to your back and it is a black shadowy figure that will not let go oh i have seen the figure more than once i've seen it thousands of times really so i start to freak out and ask a ton of questions and she goes come sit down please calm down because i was going a little wild so she sits me down and talks to me and tells me to go home take sage to burn it and take a broom and sweep my house and sweep it out the door while you break while it burning the sage so i did it and i'm a religious man but i believe in the paranormal because trust me i know it's real i asked from i asked for help from god and i did as the woman had told me and something happened to me i felt like

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a big weight lifted off my shoulder and my back i have been five and a half years sober and after the first year of being sober from drinking i got my life back whatever this thing was has had a hold on me for over 20 years and i'm so happy that i was able to get away from it thank you girls for the podcast it has helped me so much just to hear other stories it makes me realize i'm not the only one that has stuff like this happen to me thanks so much i'll see you on the other side thanks from john wayne from kentucky wow john wayne oh my god this is so i mean the fact that i don't blame john at all freaking out when when finding out that what he thought he was experiencing and seeing for a long time is very much being experienced by someone else and is true yeah and it's like here is this like dark demon attached to you that's horrifying to hear and also the fact that like the day he did all the cleansing and prayers and swept away the darkness

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he was able to become sober like one congratulations what an amazing feat to be able to overcome an addiction like that but it just to me reassures the fact that like this darkness had such a hold over him because addiction is like not an easy like oh let's do this one thing and i'm you know i'm clean i'm going to kick it yeah most people don't quit cold turkey it doesn't no it's very hard to yeah so it's kind of incredible that it was like an instant relief of feeling getting rid of anything yeah and also like i i think if i were in that position and i heard what he heard and i was struggling with the addiction and feeling kind of like my life was spiraling and i then learned i have a demon attached to me i can't i don't know if i would be super optimistic and like going through the classic i feel like i would i'd be like oh my god what else does the universe have to throw yeah like i feel so defeated and i feel so down and it's so amazing that he just was like i'm going to follow the steps i'm going to do the thing and just came

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out so re-energized and yeah with so much opportunity for life john i i'm john wayne i want to know um what else happened with this conversation with the green witch like i imagine she told you a lot and i want to know yeah tell us also what happened to the person what happened in the well and also what's the contact for the green witch i want everyone to have an experience with with someone who's read them or helped them to write down the contacts of these people so we can compile like here's a reputable list of all people yeah that's such a good idea to truly know and help it's like psychology today for for um mediums and psychics and green witches right yeah which is like i feel like it needs there needs to be something like that because we're going to create a really another business idea we are

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okay we'll update okay going into year five if we don't see you on this side we will see you on the other side love it brilliant okay bye bye